The good stuff: Kate's story, Sayid and Shannon, Sawyer futilely attempting to open the case.

Bad stuff: Does ANYONE care about Claire? I can't state enough how disappointed I am that no one cared enough to search for her again. To Sayid, she's just "the pregnant woman". Hmph.. I guess that's how she is to everyone except Charlie, a non-entity. I'm so not happy about this, though I guess I'm not surprised. I wasn't even that thrilled with Rose today - she was a little to gruff for my tastes.

I did think it was a beautifully written eppy, but since Claire is my favorite, it's not one I'll be watching again soon.

Well, I think the producers tried to explain it off. I remember someone saying: The trail's totally gone, no one has any idea where to look.

But I agree with them giving up a bit too easily. Jack didn't seem too worried.

Actually nobody seemed really worried. Not even Charlie, he was just depressed.

I thought Boone said he and Locke were looking for her. Or did I hear that wrong? I'll guess I'll have to play it back.

Well, I think the producers tried to explain it off.* I remember someone saying:* The trail's totally gone, no one has any idea where to look.

But I agree with them giving up a bit too easily.* Jack didn't seem too worried.


yes, but if they are persistent, and organize search parties, they're sure to find her eventually (sooner than later) I mean, they're on an island! there's only so many places one can hide. unless there's a secret lair in an underwater sea cave *sarcasm*

Oh, no - I agree totally that they were concerned enough. But I think it's probably something to do with the actress who plays Claire maybe not being avaible? Or them trying to finish off other plots. More of something we have to accecpt and go with, as implausable as it may seem.

Oh, no - I agree totally that they were concerned enough.* But I think it's probably something to do with the actress who plays Claire maybe not being avaible? Or them trying to finish off other plots.* More of something we have to accecpt and go with, as implausable as it may seem.


Claire doesn't have to be seen to be a factor. I guess she just hasn't made, despite her compassion (memorial service -do any of our castaways remember that SHE led that service, when Jack didn't give a darn) an impact on people. She might just as well be Joann, the woman who drowned.

I thought Boone said he and Locke were looking for her. Or did I hear that wrong? I'll guess I'll have to play it back.


No, he definitely said that to Shannon- you heard correctly. I just wondered if it really meant they were looking for her or further exploring that "thing" in the ground. I *hope* they are looking for her and I *hope* that the reason that Locke bats Boone over the head (preview for next week) is because Locke is afraid of drawing attention to this metal thingy would draw attention to "the others", thus possibly harming the chance of recovering Claire. I *hope*, oh goodness, I really hope so. But then again, had Locke wapped Boone in an earlier episode I probably wouldn't have minded so long as he wapped Shannon while he was at it. ;D

Oh! Another thought...last night's episode only seemed to be a "day" in "island time"...so maybe the fuselage washing out to sea was a little more urgent in the moment than entertaining another search party for Claire?

Wouldn't you all be a little worried about going off and looking for Claire when
1. Claire was dragged off by some unknown kidnapper(s)
2. From Jack's point of view, he was definitely threatened
3. Charlie has almost been killed by these same kidnappers

I'd say I'd be a little squeamish about running back into the jungle so quickly.

Then again, I'd think Kate *would* be out there looking, instead of gathering fruit.

People may be afraid to continue to look for her after what happened to Charlie.

As for Claire, I'm guessing that when we see Claire again it will be after she has the baby.

Wouldn't you all be a little worried about going off and looking for Claire when....

I would be, but as flora said, if everything is being washed out to sea, I'd be more worried about that, for the one day that seemed to pass during this episode. All that stuff they saved was non-replaceable--if it goes out to sea, it is gone for good. Claire is unreplaceable, too, of course but if 4 days had passed since Claire was missing (as per what Shannon said), the hope of finding her is low, even on an island; Ethan and the others have had plenty of time to cover their tracks extremely well.

I would be, but as flora said, if everything is being washed out to sea, I'd be more worried about that, for the one day that seemed to pass during this episode.* All that stuff they saved was non-replaceable--if it goes out to sea, it is gone for good.* Claire is unreplaceable, too, of course but if 4 days had passed since Claire was missing (as per what Shannon said), the hope of finding her is low, even on an island; Ethan and the others have had plenty of time to cover their tracks extremely well.*


The writers could have put the "tide coming into beach" scenes into any episode, and it would have worked into the plot just fine.* However, not showing further rescue attempts, or especially more about what Locke and Boone found in THIS episode didn't really sit well with me.* Just to use the off-screen literary device that "the trail grew cold after several days of searching" was a little dissapointing IMO.

Thanks - I agreed - why were they not all totally freaked that Claire was abducted and all trying to organize and find her? I really thought that would be the thrust of this episode.

I think the writers might have been trying to point out that not everyone really knows Claire--really stress that they still all know very little about each other. Why would anyone risk their own safety to find some chick they don't know, especially when they found Charlie a bit on the dead-ish side?

Yah--Sayid (I think it was him) even refered to her as "that pregnant girl," which suggests he could not remember her name.

(I'll bet he doesn't forget Shannon's name after that topless sunbathing scene. But I digress.)

I think the writers might have been trying to point out that not everyone really knows Claire--really stress that they still all know very little about each other.* Why would anyone risk their own safety to find some chick they don't know, especially when they found Charlie a bit on the dead-ish side?


I think that's a deadly attitude to have in this situation. All these people have is each other; they have to depend upon each other for survival. I'm extremely disturbed at the complacency of these castaways; I think this is the most dangerous thing the castaways have to face. Claire can't count on them to help her; that means Kate can't count on anyone to help her; Jack can't do it, Sayid can't........no one can. Each person is alone on that island because no one is willing to put themselves in danger to help a fellow human. They are a group, yet they aren't a team. They had better learn to lean on each other or they're all doomed.

I think that's a deadly attitude to have in this situation. All these people have is each other; they have to depend upon each other for survival. I'm extremely disturbed at the complacency of these castaways; I think this is the most dangerous thing the castaways have to face. Claire can't count on them to help her; that means Kate can't count on anyone to help her; Jack can't do it, Sayid can't........no one can. Each person is alone on that island because no one is willing to put themselves in danger to* help a fellow human. They are a group, yet they aren't a team. They had better learn to lean on each other or they're all doomed.


You are completely right about them not being a team. Perhaps they are starting to get the first signs of "the sickness" that Danielle had referred had happened to "her" people. That may explain why Sayid has done a sudden turnaround about hearing the voices of the others and wanting to take Jack to Danielle. Maybe they are so consumed with themselves, they can't think of others as they start to "get sick"

Than again...... who knows! :lol2:

I like Betsy's point. No one made much of a search for Joanna's body, even though it was nowhere in sight. Though they were very different circumstances, I think everyone assuming Clarie is "dead" should be seen in the same light.

I'm sure we all would have wondered why the heck no one else tried to find/save Jo if we had gotten to know her.

I agree that that kind of attitude is deadly, but that is how it is at this moment.

These people aren't 'friends'. They wouldn't associate with one another in 'the real world'. They are still relative strangers to one another. They don't even trust each other (witness all the secrets they keep from each other). Even the ones who are together (Michael-Walt, Sun-Jin, Shannon-Boone) are having difficulties. They just use each other. They use Jack and Locke because they need them.

I agree this attitude is deadly. These people need to learn how to work together and to 'care' about each other and build some kind of community. I hope this idea is developed as the show progresses.

Jack didn't want to be part of the memorial service because a)he felt like a hypocrite saying words when it was his idea to burn the bodies for their survival b) are ppl forgetting he was on his way to a funeral? His father just died and I'd say it would be pretty emotional for him to stand up there doing a memorial service.

They would be foolish to try and go out and look for Joanna's body...the riptide would pull them out to sea.

Jack did in the beginning of WTCMB press Sayid for info because he said Claire was still out there...and he told Sayid to look at what it was doing to Charlie.

Shannon said the trail had gone cold and there was nothing to follow.