Obviously there is a reason he speaks backwards and it is significant to the plot of the show.

There have been many references and theories posted that relate to mirrors and duality.

Well when you look in a mirror, your image is backwards (or in reverse).

Could this Walt be speaking in reverse because it is a mirror image of the real Walt?

(by the way, at least the Twin Peaks producers had the courtesy to put the midgets backwards dialogue translated into subtitles)

by the way, has anyone figured out what he was saying in the tent to shannon yet? Sorry if i may have missed this in another post.

reports are Theyre coming, theyre close

Thanks, simplist....i also saw in another forum as you were posting is suppose. They're coming and they're close. There is a sound bite available , it is clear as day.

Anyways, another thing about walt. Did it not seem that he led shannon straight to her death. She got up to goto him and he led her straight into a trap. But maybe he didnt know Ana would shoot, possibly he was trying to reconnect the two groups.

That or he was being chased by someone else. When we cut back to Walt after Shayid both see him, I'm not convinced that the running figure is Walt...

Vincent knew Ana would shoot-Walt may not have wanted her to get shot but Vincent isn't that sweet dog that everyone thinks he is, I bet he will play a bigger role in the whole show than anyone evr thought

but yes, Simplist, the mirror thing is interesting. Why backwards? Why wet? Is the water a means of making himself visible to those he wants to speak with? Are the water droplets refracting his image backwards? I don't know...

Vincent knew Ana would shoot-Walt may not have wanted her to get shot but Vincent isn't that sweet dog that everyone thinks he is, I bet he will play a bigger role in the whole show than anyone evr thought

Remember when vincent led walt into the polar bear trap. Very interesting.

I also find it odd that when Shannon gave Vincent a smell of Walt's shirt to go find him...Vincent led her straight to Boone's grave. I'm still trying to fingure that out.

I also find it odd that when Shannon gave Vincent a smell of Walt's shirt to go find him...Vincent led her straight to Boone's grave. I'm still trying to fingure that out.

He was like "You're next"

todell, interesting on the wet walt...

my wife watches the shows with me every week, but she doesnt get into the post-show analysis/research and she doesnt even like talking about all of the theories (poor me)..

anyway, she asked me this morning why they keep showing Walt with amniotic(sp?) fluid on him... and i thought that was interesting as some people have said the fluid does look a little to sticky to be just water?

WHOA...THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.....THANKS SiMPLiST.

You know, simplist; the bit about amniotic fluid just reminded me of another ghost move: Poltergiest. When they retrieve Carol Ann and the mom from the other side, they both come back covered in a similar goo. There was a great deal of birth imagery in the conclusion of that film: Carol Ann was reborn after being on the "other side" with the dead. Again, I don't think it's about the Others being ghosts, but rather that they are on the "other side" of something. Hmmmm.

my wacky theory:

Walt is alive but being kept in some sort of deprivation water tank because the others know he has special powers and they want to isolate them. This is why he is wet. He is using his powers to telepathically go to Shannon (because she has vincent) to warn her about things he know. His speech is backwards because supposedly when you communicate telepathically you are sending a mirror of yourself because you yourself cannot physically go. So his speech is backwards!

Just my humble two cents!!!

It is not really reverse speech. There should be something intelligible when he speaks and then a hidden message reversed, they are just playing what he says backwards so we hear gibberish. Maybe they intended to do reverse speech but didn't know how to do it?

I thought reverse speech was just speech played backwards, and backmasking was the backwards layer beneath the forwards level.

Ok my mistake then, If you know for sure I admit I was wrong, I just went to reverspeech.com and I didn't get that idea. I was wrong, what are the odds? Lol

we all seem to be making the assumption that it was ana that shot shannon here

is there a link for these voices yet ?

is there a link for these voices yet ?

There are links to lots of soundfiles in the episode's thread.

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=599742#post599742

You know, simplist; the bit about amniotic fluid just reminded me of another ghost move: Poltergiest. When they retrieve Carol Ann and the mom from the other side, they both come back covered in a similar goo. There was a great deal of birth imagery in the conclusion of that film: Carol Ann was reborn after being on the "other side" with the dead. Again, I don't think it's about the Others being ghosts, but rather that they are on the "other side" of something. Hmmmm.
I mentioned on this thread (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=21157&page=14&highlight=umbilical) that the cable Locke used to lower Kate down the hatch looked like a sort of perverse umbilical cord. Notice where it's tied to Kate (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=722&pos=29). As if Kate is the child, being lowered back into the womb? Maybe Walt is "back in the womb"?

However, I don't know what this has to do with backwards speaking. Running with what Todell said above about Poltergeist... maybe Walt has been reborn on "the Other side"? In an Other hatch, underground (or underwater)?

Can people speak backwards, or in reverse, without the help of electronics...

i mean can you teach yourself to speak in reverse?

I also find it odd that when Shannon gave Vincent a smell of Walt's shirt to go find him...Vincent led her straight to Boone's grave. I'm still trying to fingure that out.

Possible foreshadowing on the parts of the writers that Shannon would soon be rejoined with her true love.

Also, possibly that vincent is not all that he appears to be?

AT

we all seem to be making the assumption that it was ana that shot shannon here

Hi, I agree. For all we know Shannon was shot by an other and ana was aiming for the aggressor. I think it would make her character a pariah or outcast if she is the one who killed Shannon outright.

I know everyone seems to be hating ana right now but I think starting next week we'll really get an appreciation for her rough survivalist demeanor. At least I hope. I happen to like her character.

Possible foreshadowing on the parts of the writers that Shannon would soon be rejoined with her true love.

Also, possibly that vincent is not all that he appears to be?

AT



I also find it odd that when Shannon gave Vincent a smell of Walt's shirt to go find him...Vincent led her straight to Boone's grave. I'm still trying to fingure that out.

Locke told us the story of his dead sister
some time after she died, his mother found a dog, quite like Vincent actually

It was hinted, in his story, that the dog WAS his sister

Somehows Vincent was Boone to Shannon

Maybe Vincent led her to Boone's grave, either to say goodbye one last time, or in the hope she would stay around the grave and be kept safe

I still don't know how to put this correctly into words, but Vincent leading Shannon to Boone's grave is very likely to echo Locke's story (The one he told Kate and Sawyer on the harassing boar hunt)

My friend suggested that he is astro-projecting himself. I also think some of Walt's power is to summon animals...the random bird that flew into the window of his home...the polar bear...yet when he wanted to summon Vincent (who was lost) he was very upset...maybe because he was summoning him and Vincent wasn't coming...maybe Vincent is different (not really a dog?).

It was hinted, in his story, that the dog WAS his sister

Somehows Vincent was Boone to Shannon
And thus, Walt = Boone (as Vincent is an extension of Walt) to Shannon? This is going to get a little complicated on my part, but I did think there was rather a plethora of similarities between Sabrina and Shannon (both beautiful, tall blondes. Both, eventually, were cold, apathetic and calculating. Particularly in regards to pushing Boone around). Not delving too deeply into Boone's psychosis (and that boy did have some serious issues, like all of them), but I do think Shannon was indeed an extension of Sabrina for Boone (thus possibly explaining his obsession/misery in his relationship with his stepsister / mother figure). The more manipulative/cold Shannon got, the more like his mother she became. I find it also rather intriguing that both Susan (Walt's mother) and Shannon both were romantically linked to men named Bryan/Brian. Susan was also rather cold and manipulative in her own right (she bullied Michael completely out of Walt's life).

Sabrina = Shannon = Susan..... all influential mother figures.

Sabrina and Shannon were mother figures to Boone.

Susan and Shannon were mother figures to Walt (and Vincent).

Thus, in a way, it's the child trying to send the parent or parent figure a message. Just like, according to Locke, his sister had done for his foster mother. Like Aaron may have been doing with Claire (Aaron reacting to Claire eating Jin's sushi, the dreams/visions, etc). Walt with his mother (the bird hitting the window? Susan's "blood infection"?). Walt/Vincent/Boone to Shannon (Vincent/Boone taking Shannon to Boone's grave, the Walt visions, etc). I think Vincent, Boone and Walt were all trying to give Shannon a warning (You're in danger or You're going to die - thus took Shannon to Boone's grave).... a warning Shannon missed and she died (of course, the death may have been inevitable, warning or not). As it seems, Susan might have missed the warning or warnings too (Brian apparently did not... he was terrified of Walt). Even introduced to the oddities of Craphole... no one is going to automatically expect they're getting clairvoyant messages that must / should be interpreted. Unless your name is John Locke, even then there's no guarantee he catches all the signs, as it were (I even think he often sees things that aren't really there, so desperate he is looking for answers).

Can people speak backwards, or in reverse, without the help of electronics...

i mean can you teach yourself to speak in reverse?

You bet. The best case of this is actor Michael J. Anderson (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0027199/)

He learned a method for speaking backwards which was used for the show "Twin Peaks." When his backwards-speaking was reversed, the result was a bizarre and strange speach pattern. He taught this method to the others in the cast who had to be part of the Red Room sequences (and the conveniance store in the film).

So yes, you can do it.

Garmonbozia!