wow, damn Locke.

i think its safe to say that even if Locke was given the option of leaving the island he would stay. even if the other survivors were rescued and he wanted to stay on the island- the island would be charted and he would lose his powerful position. i think whatever Boone and Locke found, and have been sneaking off to play with, has the potential to get them rescued. perhaps some communication device from an old war plane. i thought they would have taken their time a bit more in turning Locke evil. hrm... so much to consider now.

I thought it might have been him that knocked out Sayid early on but I think this makes it seem even more like it's him.

I believe Locke knocked out Boone because he knew if Boone went back to the camp and told everyone about the hidden door to whatever would cause mass hysteria. He doesn't want to cause panic or anything that might set the balance of the island off. So he had to do the only thing he could and make sure Boone didn't make it to the camp to tell the other survivors.

I almost died when I saw that!

No offense, but what on earth would make Locke want to keep a metal thing in the ground secret? And what on earth gives him the right to lord over anything that way?

Stephanie

I believe Locke knocked out Boone because he knew if Boone went back to the camp and told everyone about the hidden door to whatever* would cause mass hysteria.* He doesn't want to cause panic or anything that might set the balance of the island off.* So he had to do the only thing he could and make sure Boone didn't make it to the camp to tell the other survivors.


:D still holding out faith i see. Let the dream die!! Locke is sketchsville!!!

I'm reeeally reeeally hoping that Locke did it for a good reason. But then we have Shannon flying into the air and that just screws me up. Because seriously as far as "depth" goes I think Locke is the most interesting character and I don't want it to be ruined by him being an evil kanevil.

I'm as big a Locke fan as the next lostaway, but I fear he has gone evil. Siiiigh- well, I suppose that there's still hope- we don't know the circumstances behind... aw crap, might as well accept it. I think I might still hold out for "unbalanced".

Somewhere, Lockemeup's head has exploded.

I'm Somewhere, Lockemeup's head has exploded.

This is so true ;D!
Yeah, we better start the search for all the splodey pieces....

Stephanie

Something about this just occurred to me, and it doesn't sit right. Assume that Locke hit Boone in order to keep him from telling the others about their find (and I know what they say about assuming, but let's just assume anyway). Knocking Boone out doesn't stop him from telling the others- it only delays it for a short while. Furthermore, now Boone has two things to report- their find, and Locke's attack. Now Locke doesn't strike me as the kind of person who acts rashly... and he doesn't seem the type to leave a job unfinished. The only hope Locke has now of keeping the find and the attack secret is to kill Boone.




Now I'm upset. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Unless he has nothing to be afraid of because there was another, better reason to knock him out that wouldn't let Boone run and tell the others about it...
(the hitting that is. Not the find)

edited for clarification *lol*

I'm going to so out on a limb here and say that Locke knocked Boone out for his own protection.

We know the next week's previews are often misleading. We see just enough of a scene to start us thinking but not enough to know exactly what's going on.

I don't have a theory as to how this is for Boone's own good, but, based on Locke's previous behavior, I don't think the hit was malicious.

Also, I'm thinking that Locke is being very wary of Boone after what happened with Ethan (and his inability to sense anything "off" about him). It's just as likely that he "does what he does" because Boone is behaving in a threatening manner or something, and he doesn't want to let it happen again, like what happened with Ethan.

I believe Locke knocked out Boone because he knew if Boone went back to the camp and told everyone about the hidden door to whatever* would cause mass hysteria.* He doesn't want to cause panic or anything that might set the balance of the island off.* So he had to do the only thing he could and make sure Boone didn't make it to the camp to tell the other survivors.


I think this maybe part of it. Also, if Boone incited mass hysteria amongst the other survivors, it may hurt their chances of recovering Claire alive. Or even Shannon for that matter as something apparently happens to her next episode.

Another part of the equation is what Terry O'Quinn said about his character mentoring the Boone character. Since the interview (sorry- I don't know where it is but someone posted it here on the board somewhere) happened over the holiday hiatus, I assume that he meant this would occur in future episodes, not just the ATBCHDI episode.

Or...maybe as others have suggested...Boone is getting "sick"?

In any case, I agree that the preview trailers have been deliberately deceptive in the past so there's really no telling what's going on with that until we see the show next week. Man, seven days can be such a LONG time! ;)

The sickness.
Totally slipped my mind.

Good catch and thanks for reminding me!

Also: interview (http://terryoquinn.net/press/press_200501_zap2it.html)
Careful - spoilerish!

Locke has been in the role of shepherding people toward their "island destiny" in the past - handing Sayid the knife - charlie and the drugs, etc. i think that the characters up until now have been making the *correct* choice. he gives Boone the chance to make the right choice "have you though through all the ramifications" and when Boone chooses wrong, he stops it. I still think it's for people's own good. I think that Locke believes the find will help them recover Claire and doesn't want Boone screwing it up, which, let's face it, he tends to do.

Also - notice that Shannon is screaming "Somebody help me!" while she's running, then she's caught up. Do we know that she's being hurt when pulled up? Maybe Locke is saving her from the monster or something by pulling her up into the tree?

I believe Locke knocked out Boone because he knew if Boone went back to the camp and told everyone about the hidden door to whatever would cause mass hysteria. He doesn't want to cause panic or anything that might set the balance of the island off. So he had to do the only thing he could and make sure Boone didn't make it to the camp to tell the other survivors.


I think this maybe part of it. Also, if Boone incited mass hysteria amongst the other survivors, it may hurt their chances of recovering Claire alive. Or even Shannon for that matter as something apparently happens to her next episode.

Another part of the equation is what Terry O'Quinn said about his character mentoring the Boone character. Since the interview (sorry- I don't know where it is but someone posted it here on the board somewhere) happened over the holiday hiatus, I assume that he meant this would occur in future episodes, not just the ATBCHDI episode.

Or...maybe as others have suggested...Boone is getting "sick"?

In any case, I agree that the preview trailers have been deliberately deceptive in the past so there's really no telling what's going on with that until we see the show next week. Man, seven days can be such a LONG time! ;)

Locke has been in the role of shepherding people toward their "island destiny" in the past - handing Sayid the knife - charlie and the drugs, etc. i think that the characters up until now have been making the *correct* choice. he gives Boone the chance to make the right choice "have you though through all the ramifications" and when Boone chooses wrong, he stops it. I still think it's for people's own good. I think that Locke believes the find will help them recover Claire and doesn't want Boone screwing it up, which, let's face it, he tends to do.

Also - notice that Shannon is screaming "Somebody help me!" while she's running, then she's caught up. Do we know that she's being hurt when pulled up? Maybe Locke is saving her from the monster or something by pulling her up into the tree?


Oh! Yes, yes!! Locke waiting from above and swooping her up in his big strong arms to safety.....*swoon* ::P

I almost died when I saw that!

No offense, but what on earth would make Locke want to keep a metal thing in the ground secret? And what on earth gives him the right to lord over anything that way?

Stephanie


I think that Locke's the one on the psychotrophic drugs and he's running out. Anyone remember his ep? He thought that the 1-900 chick was his girlfriend...
Colleen

The big unanswered question for me concerning Locke is .. what did he see that day when he came face to face with the big bad in the jungle? *and why did he deny seeing it? *my gut feeling here is that whatever is motivating him to be silent on what he saw is probably motivating him to silence Boone as well.

Because the unknown is sometimes better than the knowing.

I think Locke is trying to protect everyone, and if the time is right tell them.

You don't want to put the fear of god into everyone. So you tell them what they want to hear for now.

Because the unknown is sometimes better than the knowing.

I think Locke is trying to protect everyone, and if the time is right tell them.

You don't want to put the fear of god into everyone.* So you tell them what they want to hear for now.


I agree. I think that Locke knows that the monster or the eye of the island or whatever can be a really good thing if you are open to it but maybe it's a really bad thing if you're not ready for it. You know, how Locke came back all happy and changed, but the pilot got eaten.

Maybe THAT's why Locke hits Boone over the head? Maybe Boone finds the eye of the island but he isn't ready and it is something that will hurt him. Although I don't think this will be the case because I think next week is way too early for that too happen.

I also tend to believe that Locke has a good reason for knocking out Boone. He's always been so composed before and seems to be in tune with the island. I think we find out that Boone was going to do something that was detrimental to the whole group. Then again, the way this show is going, he could have jumped off the deep end. However, I'm going to go with my gut on this one.

I have two theories. First theory is that Locke didn't want Boone to tell his sister about what they found because he knows the path is dangerous to get there and people might get hurt going to this place. But Boone is an idiot, tells his sister, and she gets in danger trying to find it. Then Boone as the idiot hero he is, wants to go rescue her. But Locke knows that Boone will either get hurt himself or get in Locke's way so he knocks Boone out and tries to go rescue Shannon himself.
My second theory is totally the opposite. Locke is in cahoots with Ethan and the "others" since he saw whatever the hell it is he saw. That is why he would go hunting with Ethan and never question why Ethan was a loony pyschopath. When Claire was captured that is why Locke took only three of the most worthless(or so he thought) people on the island. He was leading them astray, and that is why he got so pissed off when he found out Kate can track also. That is why they split up and he took Boone because he has a "thing" for Boone. And so in the next episode Locke gets mad that Boone tells Shannon about their secret love-nest so he knocks out Boone caveman style to have his ways with him and he has the whatever the hell it is he saw dispose of Shannon.
Personally, I like the second theory better, but I think that the next episode is going to resemble the first theory more.

*ACK*

Misplaced! You are another one of those blaspheming WoobieHaters. Repent lest the great Woobie strike thee down!!!

I just wanted to bring up something Ian said in a radio interview I heard yesterday about next week's episode.

He said we will find out exactly what the metal thing is and because of this knowledge the island will change someone in a BIG way. Maybe now Locke will be evil and he is really hit Boone to stop him from telling everyone.

Any thoughts?

Boones a tool, Locke hitting him doesn't seem a bad thing to me. I'm more concerned with what Charlie is saying about Locke in the preview, the little ingrate. I do hope that the preview is misleading and Charlies comments about being 'a freak of nature and disturbed' were not about the man who helped him kick his drug habit.

Locke has been in the role of shepherding people toward their "island destiny" in the past - handing Sayid the knife - charlie and the drugs, etc. i think that the characters up until now have been making the *correct* choice. he gives Boone the chance to make the right choice "have you though through all the ramifications" and when Boone chooses wrong, he stops it. I still think it's for people's own good. I think that Locke believes the find will help them recover Claire and doesn't want Boone screwing it up, which, let's face it, he tends to do.
This is what I was thinking... Locke's function has been basically to wake people up to whatever it is that they need to realize. I also know that Locke was very upset because he didn't get a feel on Ethan the way he should have, so perhaps he's taking a more aggressive approach. Most important, though, is the fact that Locke probably has insight the Boone wants to be a hero, wants to be respected, wants to be looked at as more than the spoiled water thief he is. When Locke asks, "have you thought through all the ramifications," he's essentially asking "why are you doing this?" For Boone, I fully expect that he sees revealing the discovery as an in-roads to respect on the island... which is the WRONG reason for Boone to reveal it. Locke misread Ethan badly, and I bet (and I'm hoping) that the takedown is because he is not going to make the same mistake twice.

I do hope that the preview is misleading and Charlies comments about being 'a freak of nature and disturbed' were not about the man who helped him kick his drug habit.

So do I.

Because after what Locke's done for him... that would be incredible ungrateful.
(actually... that was my first thought. Ungrateful little brat *lol*)

Unless he's on withdrawal.

Wouldn't make it a nicer comment, but a tad more comprehensible.


eta: Wow! Someone who's ahraing my 'helping people to come to terms with themselves'-theory. At least somewhat!
*lol*

I repent nothing! (Plus I don't know what the hell a woopie is.)

eta: Wow! Someone who's ahraing my 'helping people* to come to terms with themselves'-theory. At least somewhat!
*lol*

If that's a reference to my post, yes... I do see a bit of the "Who are you? What do you want? Why are you here? Where are you going?" (:angel:) in the show, and Locke's one of people on the island, at least as far as I can tell, who has a better handle on these questions than the others. Also in that group: Rousseau and Rose, I think.

My first post to this board.

Boy, has this thread depressed me. Locke is my favorite character, and I have decided if he goes evil, I will simply stop watching the show.

baryonyx - It was!
Thank goodness!

Everyone seems to see only the knife, but not that it was needed to get Sayid to think about his past.
Or to forget that he actually got Charlie away from the drugs.
I am not sure about Rousseau yet, has to be all that philosophic theory-stuff in my head - Locke and Rousseau were too different for my taste, but I have to agree on Rose =)

Now, if we could only convince the others of that fact =)

But... next week they'll see.
(Actually... I keep saying that after every episode *sigh*)

Lots of people have voiced the opinion that Locke is a catalyst for self discovery, I don't think it's the property of anyone poster here or on any other board. Hell, I've been saying that since The Moth. Terry has said it himself in interviews! Point being, it's not exactly an original theory. Just happens to be a theory I desperately WANT to BELIEVE! Excuse me for channeling a bit of LockeMeUp Woobie nature... :lol2: Locke isn't evil, dammit...he's onto something!

Then those voices are way, way too quiet ;)

I chimed in with that on this thread as well! I totally agree with the Locke as catalyst theory. ;)

baryonyx* - It was!
Thank goodness!

Everyone seems to see only the knife, but not that it was needed to get Sayid to think about his past.
Or to forget that he actually got Charlie away from the drugs.
I am not sure about Rousseau yet, has to be all that philosophic theory-stuff in my head - Locke and Rousseau were too different for my taste, but I have to agree on Rose =)

Now, if we could only convince the others of that fact =)

But... next week they'll see.
(Actually... I keep saying that after every episode *sigh*)

:) Good! Personally, to pull out another B5 reference, I see Rousseau as potentially Lost's Ambassador Kosh. Utterly cryptic, very knowledgeable about what's going on, and wholly unwilling to do much about it until it's almost too late. She most certainly has a greater grip on the island than just about anyone else... even if she doesn't have so great a grip on reality anymore.

Back to the discussion... I had thought that by now more people would be leaning into the camp that Locke isn't evil, just misunderstood, especially given the fact that the teasers often tell a completely different tale than the actual episode. What we know is: Locke clubs Boone with the knife's handle at some point in the episode, which could be before or after he asks Boone why he's going to tell the others, before or after Shannon is eaten/saved, before or after Charlie asks Jack about him... but it is most definitely after Locke finds Vincent, rescues and guides Jack, feeds the camp on a regular basis, broke Charlie of his addiction, goaded Sayid into really facing his demons, and getting angry at himself for utterly misreading Ethan's intent.

If anything, I think Locke is himself in a crisis now, because he THOUGHT he had it all figured out, he thought he knew how to read everyone because he knew something about the island. Then Ethan shocks him by being the opposite of what he'd read, as though Ethan had managed to manipulate his ability. Locke's confidence in his sagaciousness may be wavering a bit, and his clocking Boone may be the "last resort" because he's lost confidence in his ability to guide people.

":Why Locke "did what he did" in the teaser...?"

According to TOQ on the LB earlier today:

"Hey, what can I tell you? Boone had a fly on his head. "


:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

What we know is: Locke clubs Boone with the knife's handle at some point in the episode, before or after Charlie asks Jack about him...


i thought clip of Charlie talking about Locke was from an earlier episode, like the 2nd or 3rd...

I think Boone has the sickness and Locke is trying to save the group from infection. Or he is rounding up meals for the mechanical monster. When I saw Shannon go up in the air in the teaser, I immediately thought of the boar trap Locke set in "The Moth."

I repent nothing! (Plus I don't know what the hell a woopie is.)

Hey, Misplaced. Welcome. We really do like newbies here. That LockedMeUp girl is just defending her Woobie. It's kinda like Linus' blankie - makes her feel all safe and warm.

Perhaps Charlie is a bit suspicious of Locke because of the Ethan/Locke connection and Claire's kidnapping. Or, if not suspicious, maybe a tad resentful that Locke hadn't found Claire. Of course, these feelings may be mostly subconscious; they may surface after some new information that we learn next week.

But then we have Shannon flying into the air and that just screws me up.*


I think people have forgotten about the book that Sawyer was reading (Watership Down). *In the book, one warren (rabbit family) took the does (female rabbits) from another warren. *Clare has been taken; maybe Shannon’s capture is the second attempt to take the new warren’s (crash survivors) does. *What do ya think?

I've been saying for ages now that Locke is going to turn out to be a baddie.

However, after seeing that preview, I think we're being misled. Previews often cut shots together so that it appears that one shot immediately follows another, but when you actually see the episode, they don't. It looks as though Locke bopped Boone on the head right after asking him if he'd considered the consequences of telling the others. But Locke could have bopped him at some other time in the episode, for some other reason altogether.

Templeton

I asked my Magic 8 Ball last night: "Is Boone getting the sickness?" and it said, "Without a doubt."


For what that's worth...

All hail to the magic 8 ball!

I've been saying for ages now that Locke is going to turn out to be a baddie.

However, after seeing that preview, I think we're being misled.* Previews often cut shots together so that it appears that one shot immediately follows another, but when you actually see the episode, they don't.* It looks as though Locke bopped Boone on the head right after asking him if he'd considered the consequences of telling the others.* But Locke could have bopped him at some other time in the episode, for some other reason altogether.

Templeton


i started this thread, but after reviewing the teaser a couple of times i have to agree. he may have a good reason for whooping Boone. yes, different shots.

mark my words though, by the end of the season Locke will be the main antagonist.

Maybe there was someone or something else neary and Boone was getting ready to go "find it". Maybe it was Ethan and Locke wanted to hush Boone up so he could follow him? I highly doubt Locke is just going 'bad', not to say he may not or might not be more the antagonist later.

I think Shannon just hits a trap, she was running from something (which appears to be behind her since who runs to something they are screaming help me about). And she goes up more in a frontward way. My guess is perhaps Locke had something set for our good Ethan (possibly around whatever they discovered), Shannon trying to find out what Boone was leaving every morning with Locke for, follows, hits the trap and probably causes them to miss a chance to get Ethan.

I've been saying for ages now that Locke is going to turn out to be a baddie.

However, after seeing that preview, I think we're being misled.* Previews often cut shots together so that it appears that one shot immediately follows another, but when you actually see the episode, they don't.* It looks as though Locke bopped Boone on the head right after asking him if he'd considered the consequences of telling the others.* But Locke could have bopped him at some other time in the episode, for some other reason altogether.

Templeton


Oh Templeton! Say it ain't so! You've been converted by the Woobies?

Come back, come back to the dark side! Locke is EVIL!!! :devil:

Well, actually, I am leaning towards evil-Locke just 'cause I think it would delicious. Everything that people have posted to support good-Locke can just as easily be turned around to support evil-Locke (and therein lies the genius of the writers). Yeah, yeah, he's leading people to do some navel gazing and hunting wild boar. But, perhaps he's just trying to build up karma points.

Come on now, you can't have everyone within Camp Lostaway be angelic. Where's the fun in that. It's more fun to have evil in your midst. Shakespere said "The devil has the power to assume a pleasing shape."

locke wants to keep everyone on the island. and i think he is involved in why there are there in the first place. i have doubted him since the beginning. there is something not right there. ???

locke wants to keep everyone on the island. and i think he is involved in why there are there in the first place. i have doubted him since the beginning. there is something not right there.* ???


Oh, and I suppose you think Kate is some angel? (not to pick on katers, but just as an example) She is a known liar, felon and murderer. On the otherhand, you have no such proof against the Woobie, only conjecture. So WHY is Locke the evil one??

Yooooouuuuuuuu WOOBIEHATER!!! *weeping* *weeping* Forgive them great Woobie, for they know not what they do!!! :'( :'( :'( :'(

Oh, and I suppose you think Kate is some angel? (not to pick on katers, but just as an example) She is a known liar, felon and murderer. On the otherhand, you have no such proof against the Woobie, only conjecture. So WHY is Locke the evil one??

Yooooouuuuuuuu WOOBIEHATER!!! *weeping* *weeping* Forgive them great Woobie, for they know not what they do!!! :'( :'( :'( :'(


awwww! i'm not a woobiehater! haha, sorry! well.. for one thing.. i am not saying kate is an angel! NO WAY. far from it actually! i was merely pointing out that locke knows a hell of a lot ... hunting etc.. and he comes across as knowing more and understanding the island more than the other castaways. now this could be merely due to his obsession with wanting to be a walkabout and fend for himself etc.. or there could be more to it then that. Either way i am weary of what secrets he may reveal. But i must add... that i also think he is potentially one of the most interesting characters on the show. I never said otherwise! ;)

and also. yes it is merely conjecture. i never said it was fact.. it's just my speculation at this point!

peace?

Okay, I think I understand what* "woobie" is, and I am a woobie lover.* You know, Locke was deprived of so much for so long, but now he is practically bursting with natural ability and enthusiasm, I cannot help but wonder what other aspects of his miracle recovery* might be equally well-endowed ...* :-*

awwww! i'm not a woobiehater! haha, sorry! well.. for one thing.. i am not saying kate is an angel! NO WAY. far from it actually! i was merely pointing out that locke knows a hell of a lot ... hunting etc.. and he comes across as knowing more and understanding the island more than the other castaways. now this could be merely due to his obsession with wanting to be a walkabout and fend for himself etc.. or there could be more to it then that. Either way i am weary of what secrets he may reveal. But i must add... that i also think he is potentially one of the most interesting characters on the show. I never said otherwise! ;)

and also. yes it is merely conjecture. i never said it was fact.. it's just my speculation at this point!

peace?


banksy, don't give up the fight! Don't let LockeMeUp infect you with her Woobie lovin'! Its a trap, a trap I say! Stay strong, stay strong!

Oh, and I suppose you think Kate is some angel? (not to pick on katers, but just as an example) She is a known liar, felon and murderer.


To be fair, we don't know she's a murderer. We know she *says* she killed someone, but there are many circumstances in which killing and murdering are not the same!

I don't think Locke is evil either, but let's cut Kate some slack!!! Pick on Boone if you must find a villain. ;)

awwww! i'm not a woobiehater! haha, sorry! well.. for one thing.. i am not saying kate is an angel! NO WAY. far from it actually! i was merely pointing out that locke knows a hell of a lot ... hunting etc.. and he comes across as knowing more and understanding the island more than the other castaways. now this could be merely due to his obsession with wanting to be a walkabout and fend for himself etc.. or there could be more to it then that. Either way i am weary of what secrets he may reveal. But i must add... that i also think he is potentially one of the most interesting characters on the show. I never said otherwise! ;)

and also. yes it is merely conjecture. i never said it was fact.. it's just my speculation at this point!

peace?


You are in luck. *I have interceded for you with the Great Woobie. *He forgives you for you are but a young 'lager, not even off the tarmac. *Oh, the Woobie is benevolent indeed!!

*So sayeth LockeMeUp, Prophet and Disciple of Locke, the Great Woobie!!!*

Something about this just occurred to me, and it doesn't sit right.* Assume that Locke hit Boone in order to keep him from telling the others about their find (and I know what they say about assuming, but let's just assume anyway).* Knocking Boone out doesn't stop him from telling the others- it only delays it for a short while.* Furthermore, now Boone has two things to report- their find, and Locke's attack.* Now Locke doesn't strike me as the kind of person who acts rashly... and he doesn't seem the type to leave a job unfinished.* The only hope Locke has now of keeping the find and the attack secret is to kill Boone.




Now I'm upset. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(



I don't think Locke would kill Boone.* Remeber how Locke was blaming himself for Ethan's infiltration into the group, how he didn't sense anything about Ethan.* I still think Locke is good, but I think he's trying to protect Boone and the others.* At least that is what I think his motive is for all the secrecy.

To be fair, we don't know she's a murderer. We know she *says* she killed someone, but there are many circumstances in which killing and murdering are not the same!

I don't think Locke is evil either, but let's cut Kate some slack!!! Pick on Boone if you must find a villain. ;)


I am sorry. *As I said, I was just using her as an example, but you are correct. *It would be more accurate to say that, " Kate is a known *liar, a known felon and has killed at least one person by her own admission so why is Locke the one who must be evil."

I have other examples. *
Sayid is a torturer both on the island and for a totalitarian dictator. *Why isn't he evil?
Jack condoned the torture and threatened to take away Sawyer's meds. *Why isn't he evil?
Charlie is a smack addict (once an addict always an addict). *why isn't he evil
Jin came home with blood all over him and is semi abusive to Sun. *Why isn't he evil?
Boone is an idiot. *Why isn't he evil. * :P

Ya know what I am saying? *There are plenty of people on the island who have done far wose than Locke (I am reserving any further judgment of Locke until next Wednesday to see why Boone deserved to get hit. *And if Locke turns to the dark side, so shall LockeMeUp!!)

It just doesn't make any sense. :o

Locke does not suffer fools.

Hail woobie.

I just wanted to bring up something Ian said in a radio interview I heard yesterday about next week's episode.*

He said we will find out exactly what the metal thing is and because of this knowledge the island will change someone in a BIG way.* Maybe now Locke will be evil and he is really hit Boone to stop him from telling everyone.

Any thoughts?


Yes. Here it is, and since I'm answering your spoiler tagged post, I'll spoiler tag mine, too:

<spoiler>Couldn't it be the other way around? Couldn't it be that Boone is the one who is changed in a big way by the discovery of the metal thing? I mean seriously.....did you see the evil look on his face last episode when he was watching Sayid and Shannon? Something is definitely wrong there. He's getting meaner, it seems, when at the beginning, he seemed so much nicer and glad to help. That could be just the stress getting to him, but why would he look at them in such an evil way? The name "Boone" means "good"....maybe that's a little irony thrown in there for us?</spoiler>

i was merely pointing out that locke knows a hell of a lot ... hunting etc.. and he comes across as knowing more and understanding the island more than the other castaways. now this could be merely due to his obsession with wanting to be a walkabout and fend for himself etc.. or there could be more to it then that. Either way i am weary of what secrets he may reveal.


I totally understand what you mean. I thought it was very significant when Locke told Charlie (in "The Moth") that if he wanted something from the island, he had to give something back to the island. That would sound very pompous unless the person had some sort of authority to say a thing like that.....if they knew something the others didn't.

There have been several instances like that, and they make me think Locke knows what he does, not only because he'd studied survival skills for so long, but for another reason.....whether it's an evil one, such as "belonging" to the island, or a good one, like a gift received when he got there, and first manifested by the renewed use of his legs. It will be interesting when we finally do find out.

Consider that we now know Boone is gay. Locke whacked him for playing grab ***. Nothing more...


wow, damn Locke.

i think its safe to say that even if Locke was given the option of leaving the island he would stay.* even if the other survivors were rescued and he wanted to stay on the island-* the island would be charted and he would lose his powerful position.* i think whatever Boone and Locke found, and have been sneaking off to play with, has the potential to get them rescued.* perhaps some communication device from an old war plane.* i thought they would have taken their time a bit more in turning Locke evil.* hrm...* so much to consider now.

Oh Templeton! Say it ain't so! You've been converted by the Woobies?

Come back, come back to the dark side! Locke is EVIL!!! :devil:


LOL! No worries, Honbun, I maintain my Locke is (or will be) evil bias! I just think we're being tweaked with that preview -- they don't usually give away juicy plot points in the previews unless they're trying to fake us out.

I think Locke's true self will be revealed S-L-O-W-L-Y.

Cheers,
Templeton

Locke = evil?? :o

Terry O'Quinn does portray a good creepy though...

All hail to the magic 8 ball!Oh good were all behind the 8 ball on this ;D

The most likely evil in this is the preview - they always try to mislead.
Another possiblity, Locke is the one who may have come face to face with the island 'monster'. He might have reached an agreement with it/him/her. But do we know the monster is in league with the others who took Claire? perhaps it is not.

Either Boone or Locke or Lock could be the one who is changed. Shannon could be pulled to safety while fleeing or she could be captured by the others if they are doing as suggested and pulling a Watership Down restocking progam for does. She is a prime catch from that viewpoint.

I don't see anything in the preview that gives us a firm lead on what will develop as far as characterization goes.

Like I said before, Locke and Boone could both still be good guys. Maybe Locke just knocked Boone out because he didn't want him to go rescue his sister and get hurt. Remember when Boone tried to rescue the drowning woman and he wouund up needing to be rescued. So maybe Locke wants to go rescue Shannon on his own, he would have an easier time without Boone dragging his feet behind him.

Locke swings in like Tarzan and scoops Shannon to safety!!


AAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Locke has yet to physically harm someone on the island. He has challanged Jack, charlie, etc to face their demons and has shown intimate understanding of the island. He was noticably upset about the fact he didn't figure Ethan out before it was too late. So far he has yet to do anything that should lead to suspision that he knocks out Boone for evil reasons. True things could do a 180 at anytime, but I find Boone's actions more suspect thus far then Locke's. I think an underlying issue between Shannon and Boone will lead to Locke clubing him for his own good. Of course, there is the issue that Locke has seen into the eye of the island and yet lived to tell about it. Given that, he could turn at any point and I wouldn't be surprised. However, I'm giving Locke the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

Locke has yet to physically harm someone on the island.*

Actually, we have yet to see Locke physically harm someone on the island. He could have been the one who attacked Claire. We just don't know yet.

No one attacked Clair she was dreaming.

No one attacked Clair she was dreaming. And when she wakes up she will be on a plane headed to LA since this entire show is just her dream? :lol2:

Er ahh I think Claire if precognitive could have had a dream warning of Ethan's attack.
Claire may also have been subconsciously responding to a failed attempt to snatch her while she was asleep. I don’t feel we be positive that it was a dream or hallucination on her part.

If the man in her second dream is Locke, then it is showing her who will save her. Locke appearing in the first dream wasn't just a coincidence. I believe that Locke is in the second dream and it is he who will save her or attempt to save her.

If the man in her second dream is Locke, then it is showing her who will save her.* Locke appearing in the first dream wasn't just a coincidence.* I believe that Locke is in the second dream and it is he who will save her or attempt to save her.
I am ambivalent about the way Locke appeared to her in her dream. Assuming she is precognitive, his appearance and demeanor in the dream could be taken either as a sign of her rescuer or as a warning that he was to be feared. I would have to look at the dream several times to decide which way I would interpret it. I like to think of him as 'Rescue Guy' But Locke as a turncoat would add more drama to the show.