There are a lot of similarities, in general. It might be interesting to look at these and see what we can figure out.

I will be updating the first post with paraphrased versions of what people post here.

SIMILARITIES

1. Bernard and the Pilot are both found high up in a tree. Bernard gets down, the pilot does not.

2. The children are with Australians. Claire, the Aussie of the Lostaways, is pregnant. The two Tailie children are left with the Australian stewardess.

3. Nathan/Ethan. Very similar names. Both are from Canada.

4. Goodwin. (Side note: Goodwin only takes the Good. The Good win?) (Forgot what I was going to say here.)

5. The leaders are women: Kate and Ana. (Yes, I know Jack is a leader, too.)

6. Both groups have expeditions to the top of a mountain to get a signal. Each only hears someone else on the island.

7. Both of the Others who were planted were killed by survivors.

8. Both groups have factions who want to stay on the beach and who want to hide in the junlge. (belshep)

9. Both groups have a doctor in the opening scene who runs around giving medical care: Jack and Ana and Libby. (belshep)

10. Both groups quickly learn that the plane was way off course and not to expect rescue. (belshep)

11. Locke and Mr. Ecko. (castdownpbj)

12. Name Anagrams: Nathan and Ethan. Ecko almost anagrams into Locke.

13. Nathan/Ethan: very similar names, both from Canada, both have skill with making things in the jungle (rabbit snares and baskets, respectively)

14. Ana and Sawyer quickly adapt their mentality to life on the island.

15. Libby and Desmond *almost* became doctors. (LockeLove)

16. Both groups have an innocent killed by an Other (Scott, Nathan.) (Ikwaclawik)

17. Ecko and Jack are both wearing suits when we first see them. (LockeLove)

18. "QUARANTINE" is stamped on the inside of both hatch doors. (waltisfuture)

19. Both Jack and Ecko have been married, but we don't know what became of their wives. (LockeLove)

20.

DIFFERENCES

1. Charlie buries Ethan, while Ana leaves Goodwin to the elements. (elfdream)

2. The main group stay very civilised (except for Sawyer) while the tailies soon get into a living in the wild mentatlity. (cemetarygatecrasher)

3. Tailies are able to get into their version of the hatch very easily and without drama. Also, they don't make a big deal of it, they just decide to stay there. (belshep)

What is important about these? I don't know. Any others?

This isn't a parallel but interesting...Goodwin was left to the elements but Charlie felt the need to bury Ethan.

Don't the others care what happens to their own?

-- Both groups have a member who wants to leave the beach for someplace 'safer'

-- Both groups have to perform CPR on a survivor

-- Both groups have a man with an injured leg

-- Both groups have a brother and sister (well, sort of)

-- Both groups quickly learn that the plane was way off course and that rescue teams are searching in the wrong place

And I'm sure there are many others.

-Locke and Mr. Ecko. They're both do-gooders, both very mysterious, both the "cool weird guy" of the group.

-Locke and Mr. Ecko. They're both do-gooders, both very mysterious, both the "cool weird guy" of the group.

That's two name parallels, as well. Nathan almost anagrams into Ethan, and if you added an L to Ecko it would anagram to Locke.

i found it interesting the quick rate that ana got a 'law of the jungle' mentality and as their leader--the whole group sorta of adapted to that with her. whereas our original group, led by jack mr.rational, tried to maintain a more of a normal society ((save the toture)). i suppose this is more a difference then a parallel, but it really struck me.

and it makes me think that certain people would act *very differently* if they were in a different part of the plane. Sawyer, for example, has been talking the whole time about the 9/10th law and such. so maybe kate, jack, and the rest grounded him and if they hadn't he would have made some of the bad decisions that ana did?

Why are people comparing Nathan to Ethan. Goodwin was the Other. Didn't Ethan make it clear when he was talking to Ana Lucia that Nathan was, in fact, on the plane?

Differences are just as pertinent, and perhaps even more revealing, than similarities.

Ana and Sawyer ARE very similar. Both adapt very quickly to life in the "wild", and become very wary.

Another difference: the tailies were able to get into their version of the hatch without any difficulty at all.

edit: Prittygurl, people are comparing them because there are striking similarities.

Both dissappear in the jungle.
They have *very* similiar names.
Both are from Canada.

They're not both Others, but doesn't that seem like too much to be coincedental?

Why are people comparing Nathan to Ethan. Goodwin was the Other. Didn't Ethan make it clear when he was talking to Ana Lucia that Nathan was, in fact, on the plane?

This is the second board I've visited tonight and everyone keeps comparing Nathan to Ethan... poor guy is innocent, tossed in a hole, then given his freedom only to be killed by Goodwin who is, by the things that he says, the Other of this group.

Good point about differences, White Lady. Another big difference is the reaction to the hatches - the Tailies assume it's some kind of bunker and leave it at that. In contrast, Locke immediately believes his hatch is something special, even before he digs it out.

And I also thought about Nathan and Ethan - maybe Ethan overheard Nathan describing himself and then used a similar name and the same nationality when he was questioned by Hurley. Or maybe Goodwin told him about Nathan and Ethan later used the information for himself.

Libby was ALMOST a doctor, like Desmond.

Although he isn't a Lostaway, he is on that side of the island. I guess you could also parallel that she is a type of doctor. She is parallel to Jack.

Each group had an innocent person get killed by the Others. Nathan for the Tailies, and Steve (or Scott I forget) with the main group.

Or maybe Goodwin told him about Nathan and Ethan later used the information for himself.

That would be interesting. Goodwin told Ethan about Nathan, and Ethan tried to assume his identity to infiltrate the lostaways. Only he forgot his exact name, and couldn't ask Goodwin about it again cuz he had been killed by Ana already. Ethan sounded like Nathan, so it was just a simple mixup.

This is the second board I've visited tonight and everyone keeps comparing Nathan to Ethan... poor guy is innocent, tossed in a hole, then given his freedom only to be killed by Goodwin who is, by the things that he says, the Other of this group.Yeah, why didn't Ana let him go when he answered every one of her questions with a very detailed explanation? Oh wait... ;)

Ecko is wearing a suit when we first see him:

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=814&pos=13

Jack is wearing a suit when we first see him:

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=3&pos=0

I think I'm going to start listing these all in the first post (similarities and differences).

Maybe a pattern will emerge that will reveal something about why they're all there?

I mean post accident. Of course when we FIRST see Eko we think he's a savage.

Quarantine was on the inside of the second Hatch door.

One more parallel between Jack and Eko.

Jack was married and we don't know what happened to his wife. Same goes for Ecko. I think he mentioned about losing his wife. Was it that woman he pulled on the shore? Did she die? Was she taken by the others?

That would be interesting. Goodwin told Ethan about Nathan, and Ethan tried to assume his identity to infiltrate the lostaways. Only he forgot his exact name, and couldn't ask Goodwin about it again cuz he had been killed by Ana already. Ethan sounded like Nathan, so it was just a simple mixup.

Interesting theory- Ethan trying to be Nathan- too bad we didn't know Nathan's last name.

I think the similar names and being from Canada was the writers wanting us to think Nathan was guilty. When Nathan said that I thought- what , why are all the Canadians evil?

That would be interesting. Goodwin told Ethan about Nathan, and Ethan tried to assume his identity to infiltrate the lostaways. Only he forgot his exact name, and couldn't ask Goodwin about it again cuz he had been killed by Ana already. Ethan sounded like Nathan, so it was just a simple mixup.

that's a very interesting thought. perhaps the Others had Ethan take on the identity of an actual survivor so he wouldn't be caught when attendance was taken using the manifest.

that's a very interesting thought. perhaps the Others had Ethan take on the identity of an actual survivor so he wouldn't be caught when attendance was taken using the manifest.

And he messed up by saying the wrong name! He must be the black sheep of the others!

Good point about differences, White Lady. Another big difference is the reaction to the hatches - the Tailies assume it's some kind of bunker and leave it at that. In contrast, Locke immediately believes his hatch is something special, even before he digs it out..[/quote

Have to point out that Locke was following a feeling...(possibly the electromagnetic force located in/near the hatch?), whereas the 'tailies' stumbled across their hatch door.
S1E11
BOONE: Still, fifteen minutes since we've seen any sign... What are we following?
LOCKE: My gut.
Then later:
BOONE: Sorry, it's just I don't see how you can still be following this trail. I think we should go back.
LOCKE: Don't you feel it?
BOONE: What?
LOCKE: It.

[quote=belshep]And I also thought about Nathan and Ethan - maybe Ethan overheard Nathan describing himself and then used a similar name and the same nationality when he was questioned by Hurley. Or maybe Goodwin told him about Nathan and Ethan later used the information for himself.

That seems like a workable theory... very possible.

I agree with the above post. Too many similar details between Nathan and Ethan's stories to ignore. Question is, where did Ethan get his last name? It was curious too, that Nathan was teaching Bernard how to trap rabbits with some sort of contraption, and Ethan on the losties side made a basket from vines. I think it was just TPTB's way to trick us into thinking that Nathan was an other, so we wouldnt think otherwise. It would be interesting though to find out how Nathan knew how to make a rabbit trap.

I agree with the above post. Too many similar details between Nathan and Ethan's stories to ignore. Question is, where did Ethan get his last name? It was curious too, that Nathan was teaching Bernard how to trap rabbits with some sort of contraption, and Ethan on the losties side made a basket from vines. I think it was just TPTB's way to trick us into thinking that Nathan was an other, so we wouldnt think otherwise. It would be interesting though to find out how Nathan knew how to make a rabbit trap.

I was on http://www.oceanic-air.com/ some time ago, and I found a place with Ethan Rom's name, and the object was to move the letters to the boxes above the name, but it would only worked when the letters spelt out othER man (an anagram of Ethan Rom), so i don't know if theses theories on Ethan trying to take Nathan's name will pan out, or maybe Nathan name will be found out later with a different anagram.

I wonder if Nathan was a druggie or something as well. What WAS he doing in the jungle for two hours? He was in the bathroom for the whole time on the plane? A stowaway?

Maybe he was the one Cindy was really looking for when she went after Charlie...

But those kind of things we won't know until Cindy shows up...or Hurley checks the manifest again.

-Locke and Mr. Ecko. They're both do-gooders, both very mysterious, both the "cool weird guy" of the group.
yeh i cant wait until these 2 meet. it will be like mcgyver times ten! it will be interesting to see the two outwit and out impress each other with random bits of applicable knowledge and craft skills. locke builds the baby a cradle, ecko will build her a bed, locke will build her a car to go out with her friends....etc, etc....

Interesting theory- Ethan trying to be Nathan- too bad we didn't know Nathan's last name.

I think the similar names and being from Canada was the writers wanting us to think Nathan was guilty. When Nathan said that I thought- what , why are all the Canadians evil?
gotta watch those canadians!! cant trust them...with their beady eyes and flapping heads!

If you rewatch the first 15-20 minutes, there are a LOT of dialog and mannerisms that connect the lostaways and the tailies. I was shouting out "that's their Locke" or "that's their Jack" the entire time. I will have to go back and make a detailed list of key quotes and actions that really strike me.

That's two name parallels, as well. Nathan almost anagrams into Ethan, and if you added an L to Ecko it would anagram to Locke.


Wow!!! I didn't notice that...good catch!!:smile:

I will have to go back and make a detailed list of key quotes and actions that really strike me.

Please do! :)

First post updated.