Let me add this to the start before people post any rude and dismissive replys. This should apply not just to my post, but to everyone elses as well.

Theory: ABSTRACT thought or CONTEMPLATION

An IDEA of or BELIEF about something arrived at through SPECULATION or CONJECTURE

A set of circumstances or principles that is HYPOTHETICAL

Hypothesis: A TENTATIVE explanation for a phenomenon, used as a BASIS for FURTHER investigation

or

A statement that is ASSUMED to be true for the SAKE of ARGUMENT

So, If you're going to be rude or dismissive, don't bother. There's no need to get all up in arms over any of this. None of this is claiming to be fact, it's all just speculation. Obviously the writers can do whatever they want, and only they know where they're going with it. This is all just for fun. With that much being said; Welcome, Enjoy, and feel free to add to the discussion.

-Nuddypants

LOST Theories: Some possible scenarios.

1. Location of the Island - They are in the "Devil's Sea" of the East coast of Japan. One of only two points on the earth where a magnetic compass points true north instead of magnetic north. The other is the Bermuda Triangle. (People will tell you they have to adjust their compasses all the time, and it happens in lots of different places, but not to the degree of this area or the Bermuda Triangle.) Those two areas have a huge Electromagnetic (EM) force, just like our island. Some will try to argue as well that a modern day plane can't be affected by such things because of GPS but that's simply not true. We know our plane was off it's path by at least a 1000 miles (From Sydney to Los Angeles) and an EM Pulse could short the GPS on a plane or interfere with the satellite transmitting the GPS to the plane so our pilots would have gone in the wrong direction...or they went in the wrong direction on purpose...

2. The Plane Crash - It was on purpose. The reason why I think the plane crash was on purpose, is that a plane's tail end doesn't just get ripped off like that. Something has to tear at it or puncture the shell to make it shred like that in mid-air. I saw no explosion. We may find that Oceanic Air is owned by Hanso or this flight was hijacked by Hanso. A strong, unnatural force pulled it out of the sky. Some will say it was "the monster," others, the pull of the EM. I don't think "the monster" can reach 35,000 ft. in the air. The argument against the EM pull is that it:

A: An EMP only messes with electronics and has nothing to do with a magnetic pull.
B: A plane is made up mostly of aluminum with no magnetic charge. Some planes may have a small bit of steel, but not enough to pull it out of the air by a magnetic force.
C: If it was pulled out of the air, all the metal on the passengers would have been pulled down, too. Keys flying, watches getting ripped off.

What's missing from that train of thought, is the study of Scalar Electromagnetics. This answers all of this and then some. This powerful technology can cause drastic drops in atmosphere, be directed with pinpoint precision to a specific target, can alter gravity, alter the apparent mass of an object, healing capabilities, mind control capabilities, and lots more. (see here: http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm) It could in theory, target a plane, disrupt its navigation and communication, knock it around in the air with extreme force, tear it apart, and bring it down over a specific location. The technology is currently being tested in the H.A.A.R.P. project (http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/index.html) and it's been going on with the Russians since before WWII. It is believed that the former KGB and Japanese mafia are in advanced stages of development with this technology as well. Remember, Alvar Hanso, the financial backer of this whole project "first made his mark during the Second World War, providing munitions to various resistance movements around Europe. After the War, Hanso became the leading purveyor of high-technology armaments to NATO." It would make sense that it's taking place off the coast of Japan and that Hanso has access to this kind of technology.

Another argument for the plane crash, is that they passed thru a tear in space-time or a wormhole. Similar to what took place in Donnie Darko. (That could also be caused by scalar electromagnets, though even that is on the far end of science fiction at this point, even for that technology.) If that happened, and the passengers weren't crushed or torn apart by that ordeal, the losties could be on an alternate earth. It would also explain the shredding of the plane. All of these thoughts are based on the premise that there was a plane crash at all...

3. There May Have Been No Plane Crash - As stated in section 2 scalar electromagnetics allows for a certain degree of mind control. We know from the Swan orientation video, that the DeGrootes, who are the scientists behind the Dharma Initiative, are into electromagnetics and observational studies, along with the creation of utopian societies. It's possible the losties are test subjects for this psychological study being conducted by Dharma and that they are under some kind of mind control being led to believe that was a crash when there wasn't.

Others, have made a case for VR. Again like the scalar mind control, it explains a lot, the observational studies, how people survived a crash of that magnitude (because it never happened), why Locke can suddenly walk again. What doesn't fit for me in regards to a VR environment, is why go to all the trouble? Why set up this island atmosphere, why have all these mysteries (the monster, the hatch, the others, etc.)? Why not just put them in a real world environment and observe them there? There's just something about it that doesn't fit, and it seems too easy. Doesn't mean it's wrong, it may turn out to be true. I'm just not on board with it.

Some make a case for cloning. This idea is also just as plausible. What if our original survivors crashed and died, but Hanso/Dahrma got their hands on the wreckage and the bodies since it happened on their island (Or Hanso made it happen, never a crash, take your pick)? But what if Hanso had the original passengers and there was a plane crash? Now, they could have cloned everyone on the plane, but what if they're taking it a step further? They only cloned those people who had their brains intact still and are they either:

A: Somehow taking the people's memories out of the original body and injecting them into the new ones. (This might explain what the flashbacks are.)

or

B: Transferring the brain entirely into a new body. (Kind of like Robocop)

The problem with A is I have no idea how you extract memories from a person, alive or dead. The problem with B is that you would notice a scar on Locke's shiny chrome. Either way, it brings up the question of the soul. If they are able to do this, are the writers making a case against the human soul, that it's all just a coincidental series of electrical impulses? That's a pretty bold statement and not one that can be backed up easily thru scientific explanation. In the event they are clones, the reason why they would have left the clones on the island and not assimilate them back into society, is that it would be less stressful for the new clones to adjust (less shock because they're picking up where they think they left off) and it's still in experimental phase. Cloning of humans is illegal so Hanso would want to do it somewhere remote but still want to observe how they behave.

They could have also just been drugged and dropped on the island. So far, none of them have had a flashback about the actual crash. Just the turbulence and then the plane being torn to shreds (which for my mind would be reason enough to believe there was a crash if I was on that plane). They all seemed to have ingested or taken in something just before the incidence, a drink, the oxygen, etc. Maybe the turbulence was simulated to induce a hallucination (the plane being shredded) follow by complete unconsciousness which would allow the perpetrators to dump the bodies anywhere they wanted and stage whatever environment they wanted. It is of course, more than possible that the forces of the plane dropping from the sky would have caused the passengers to black out and that's why they have no recollection of the actual crash, too.

4. How Did Anyone Survive? - The only logical explanation is that there was no crash. You can choose what you wish to believe under that scenario, either VR, mind control, the passengers were drugged on the plane and then dropped on the island with the whole setup, whatever. You could also say they didn't survive and use the clone theory. You could even say it's purgatory, but the producers have said it's not. Who knows. This could just be one of those "suspension of disbelief" scenarios where the writers are given creative license and you just have to go with it. The larger question remains, if there was a crash, were the losties spared from death on purpose, or was it just coincidence these people happened to survive.

5. The Numbers - They're all over the place. There must be some meaning, right? Not necessarily, this could be one of those devices that the writers are throwing out there to keep everyone guessing. It's doubtful that's the case. These numbers turn up too often to just be coincidence. The writers have referenced the numbers so often and drawn such attention to them they run the risk of angering and the alienating their fan base if the numbers turn out to be nothing. The guy in the mental hospital, Hurley's lotto ticket, the outside of the hatch, the computer, the transmission, the number of survivors, the seat numbers, the plane number, the gate number, etc. The combination of numbers could mean anything. Each of these numbers by themselves turn up in all sorts of things throughout history, literature, and religions. I've come across a few ideas:

A: Encoded Digital Messages - I believe that the losties are connected by the numbers 4,8,15,16,23,42. I found a website that makes a case for people being connected by numbers. Here is the main section of that page. Pay attention in particular to the 5th paragraph. It might be an explanation.

"Physical reality is a consciousness program created by digital codes. Numbers - numeric codes - define our existence. Human DNA - our genetic memory - is encoded - to be triggered by digits at specific times. Those codes awaken the mind to the change and evolution of consciousness.

We all have one or more numeric codes that follow the blueprint of Sacred Geometry. It is about the spiraling of consciousness - Phi - Fibonacci - Golden Mean Spiral - found in perfection, in the exact proportions in the Great Pyramid - as a reminder of 12 around 1 (source) that create our reality. Reality - the spiral of consciousness as if through a slinky toy - or cones - through many levels of experience - at the same time - for the soul. The spiral gives the illusion of time - but once in meditation or dream state - or beyond the slinky - your frequency is too high - moving too fast - beyond linear time and space.

When you see a repetition of numbers, your DNA is being activated on some level. You are remembering that that you are now returning to higher frequency vibration also called the return of the Feminine Energies - Rebirth - Christ Consciousness - Return of Jesus or another Savior - Evolution of Consciousness into total awareness - and so on. Many believe awakening comes through healing and the creation of balance - 11.

Most digital codes that evoke memory are double digits - or countdowns such as 1,2,3,4,5 or 5,4,3,2,1,0 - which goes to Zero Point Merge

You will experience a sudden awakening after which reality is never the same. You are going to create clarity, healing and balance for yourself. Do not expect others in your life to be on this journey with you. It is yours alone as it is for most souls. You will have to seek new friends of like mind who are also being triggered by the digits. Once you open the Digital Door - there is no going back. Your soul will automatically and quickly move you from level to level of experience until you 'get it'. Your consciousness is expanding and therefore you will - manifest faster and with greater comprehension - becoming more aware of the meaning of synchronicities that will become more and more frequent. They are created by your soul creates to help you remember that you are a soul spark in a physical program that is about to end - evolve back to higher consciousness.

Once you see your numeric codes - you have activated something in your DNA codes and they will continue to appear until you 'get the message' ... it is 'time' to move on.

Upon seeing your digit encoded numbers - you may feel a sense of urgency or related emotions. Chill out! For NOW there is TIME!

The numbers usually signal changes in the patterns of your life. They may confirm something that you are experiencing whenever the numbers appear to you. You may dream also about the numbers - linked with things you do not as yet understand - or wake up at the same time every night with those numbers on your digital clock - i.e. 11:11"

It may be new-age, but I wouldn't entirely put something like this past the writers of the show.

B: The Periodic Table - The numbers might have something to do with the origin of the element's names. I'm not saying the elements themselves don't mean anything, you can look into that one later if you'd like. I do know all these elements are components of humans. They are part of what makes us, but if you look at the word origin for each element or what it essentially does. Some lead to somethings that might be of interest.
4 - Beryllium - origin unknown to me but it is used in aircraft.

8 - Oxygen - From the greek oxus (acid) and gennen (generate) it is also our life support

15 - Phosphorus - From the greek phos (light) and phoros (bearer) or bearer of light

16 - Sulfur - From the latin sulfur (brimstone) it was thought to be the combination of hellfire and lightning

23 - Vanadium - Named after Vanadis a Scandanavian Goddess. It is used as a catalyst

42 - Molybdenum - From the Greek molubdos, it is used in aircraft

108 - Hassium - From the latin word Hassias, the German state of Hess or Hesse.
That information might be able to be applied to certain characters or things in the show. 8 & 42 could refer to the plane (maybe the front and the rear, one for each) With 18, 15, 16, and 23 referring to characters. Who represents life, who is the light bearer, who is filled with brimstone, who is a catalyst, etc.? 108 could refer to the island itself with a few different meanings. One could refer Rudolf Hess, third in command under Hitler's rule, leaving the island as symbol of imprisonment or genocide? He was crazy and followed without question. Maybe just like pushing the button? They do it without knowing why. Another connection to the Nazis, is that one of the areas of study for the Hanso foundation is Juxtapositional Eugenics Development. Eugenics is basically used to control breeding to bring out positive characteristics to create a superior human race. It fell out of favor after the Nazis perversed it. It's also possible that 108 could refer to the H.E.S.S. project that became operational Sept. 28th, 2004 (the pilot aired on the 22nd so there's no connection there that I can see) to study electromagnetism in space, along the same line as the H.A.A.R.P Project. I though Jack being the doctor would mean life (#8) but know I think of him as the catalyst (#23). He was the only one who landed in the middle of the island. The front of the plane landed on one side and the back of the plane
landed on the other. He is the one who bridges the gap and can bring them together. Maybe Walt is life which is why he's so valuable. Maybe Sawyer or Kate is brimstone (#16) and Locke is the light (#15)?

Also, each of these elements is given their period number based on the
number of protons and electrons they have which is the same. Most do
have a different number of neutrons though. Could those numbers be the
opposite numbers (black stone / white stone) to counteract the sequence that the losties have? If that were the case here is was the corresponding sequence would be: (Total Atomic Mass rounded to nearest whole integer)

#4 Beryllium - has 5 neutrons - total atomic mass is 9

#8 Oxygen - has 8 neutrons - total atomic mass is 16 (this one is balanced numbers wise)

#15 Phosphorus - has 16 neutrons - total atomic mass 31

#16 Sulfur - has 16 neutrons - total atomic mass 32 (this is another one that is balanced)

#23 Vanadium - has 28 neutrons - total atomic mass 51

#42 Molybdenum - has 54 neutrons - total atomic mass 96

#108 Hassium - has 157 neutrons - total atomic mass 265

So, if we use the numbers for the neutrons we have a sequence of:

5, 8, 16, 16, 28, 54 & 157 (if you remove hassium and add up the first 6 you get 127 instead)

If we use the numbers for total atomic mass we get:

9, 16, 31, 32, 51, 96 & 265 (if you remove hassium and add up the first 6 again you get 235)

Maybe those number sequences will prove to have some kind of meaning as the show progresses.

C: The Number 7 - We have 7 numbers (including the total 108). On the Hanso Foundation Website, there are 7 areas of study.

The Hanso Life-Extension Project

The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative

The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence

The Hanso Mathematical Forecasting Initiative

The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative

The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute

The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility

What if each number 4,8,15,16,23,42,and 108 each relate to a specific area of study? I was thinking, it takes what, 23 pairs of chromosomes to make a normal human? Maybe 23 would refer to eugenics or life-extension? I'm just thinking out loud here. Can anyone else find associations to the areas of study and the numbers? Also, 7 areas of study...could be coincidence but 7 is used all the time in just about everything you can think of...hmmm?

D: Coordinates - Some have said the numbers are supposed to be telling us where the losties are. Maybe, but if that's the case, why weren't the written on the hatch in coordinate form? Why weren't they on the transmission in coordinate form? It's possible, but there are too many different ways they could be arranged to make coordinates to pinpoint one location this way.

6. The Monster - This could be anything. So far, the show itself has given few clues as to what it might be. The French Chick referred to it as a security system. The first time Locke encountered it, he said he say the most beautiful thing he's ever seen and came back with a boar to eat. It looks like black smoke and you can see eyes in it, it makes a lot of noise and tears up the ground it moves on. Oh yeah, and it killed the pilot. If it was a VR world, this could have been a way for whoever was controlling the VR to remove the pilot from the island. He was about to give too much information to the losties, so the controllers simply removed the pilot from the world by sicking the monster on him. That's one scenario if you believe in the VR theory.

If you think this is really happening, then there could be an argument made for nanotechnology. Microscopic little machines that can so all sorts of little things from entering your blood stream and send back images to your doctor as an examination form, to theoretically gaining intelligence and traveling in swarms, acting together to form a whole "being." If you believe the latter, then there you go. The monster is a swarm of nanomachines floating around the island, tearing it up and causing general chaos and confusion. It could look like black smoke and take any form it wanted to.


7. The Base Stations - We know of the Swan and the Arrow so far but there are three others, maybe four. I believe each was/is dedicated to their own area of study. (The Swan) I believe was the study of EM forces in relation to remote viewing. The others will most likely be linked to Hanso's other areas of study as well as the areas of interest for the Dharma Initiative. There is a series of underground tunnels connecting each station and perhaps the Dharma logo (in it's various states) is a map of the underground network with the circle at the center representing the EM.

I'm not exactly sure why, but it seems that the Swan has been abandoned as an actual research facility dedicated to the (superficial) study of EM. I believed it is still being used for remote viewing. One of the major "artists" of remote viewing was Ingo Swann, a psychic who brought the studies of remote viewing the Stanford Research Institue. Swann also proposed the idea of Coordinate Remote Viewing, a process in which viewers would view a location given nothing but its geographical coordinates, which was developed and tested by Hal Puthoff and Russell Targ with CIA funding. (That could also be an explanation for the losties mental state)

Regardless, the food supply has somehow been maintained for the last 25 years but none of the technology has. They're still operating on an Apple II and all the other technology in the hatch dates back to the late 70's, early 80's. I know someone from LOST is quoted as saying they never said the crash happened in 2004, but they never said it didn't either. That's most likely a quote to try and throw everyone off. It has to be within a 3 year range of 2004. We've seen iPods, H2's, patriot act refs, etc., so it can't be that old. It also can't be in the future because the crash happened just after the meeting at the bar between Sawyer and Jack's father in which the statement was made, "Why the Red Sox will never win the World Series." That we all know happened in October of 2004. Woo hoo! Go Sox! Anyway, that rules out LOST taking place in the future. So that equipment is old.

It also looks like the Arrow base station was abandoned a while ago, although that information remains to be seen. There's the possibility that it's not a base station at all. It could be one of a possible many bunkers set up for the retreat of the occupants of each station in the event there was another "incident." Maybe we'll see an orientation film for that area soon, or at least get some of it's recent history from the people on the back of the plane. The may say they found it inhabited by some others and somehow took it over losing my in the process. It may also be where the mysterious "virus" is coming from. That would also explain why the people from the back of the plane have lost so many. Taken quickly from exposure. Either way, we'll have to wait for more of that station to be shown to us , or to see if the other films still exist.

8. The Swan Orientation Film - Much has been made of the film since it's introduction. Some think it said nothing, while others think it was shot on modern day video setup complete with an HD VTR setup in the background. (It wasn't, that supposed HD monitor is just a section of the wall behind Dr. Candle that jumped has jumped up the frame because of a bad splice.) Either way, it told a lot about what could be going on on the island.

It introduced the Degrootes, Hanso and their Dharma Initiative, complete with it background. It showed some of the areas of study that they were involved in and it also gave us a bit of a time reference for how long thing have been going on on the island. It also tied the numbers into a direct application for everyone on the island. They're more than just a possible hex.

We also met Dr. Candle and his bad left side. For a while I focused on the extreme closeups. There are three of them and you can't see his lips move. This may be a diliberate move to draw attention to what he's saying in those moments or that his words have been cut out or dubbed over. Here's what you get if you piece together just the audio from the three ecu's:

...fullfill the responsibilities of this work station...not long after...the code be entered correctly and in a timely fashion..

Maybe the 108 isn't a countdown to press the button again, maybe it's a timer for the station occupants so they know how long they have to complete a certain task?

I'm not a chess player, but isn't there a counter you have to press after you make a move? How long is that duration (chess timer) and are these guys (our losties) involved in a game of wits like chess where they're each have to make caluated moves in a certain amount of time? The chess idea, but I'm sure those cuts are more than just the sections of the show where they cut away to Jack and Locke watching the film. Something is missing or has been edited, it was meant to have attention drawn to it.

9. The Computer - What's it for? Why do the numbers have to be entered every 108 minutes? Is it just a psychological experiment in the vein of Pavlov's Dog? Maybe. Every scenario is just as likely as the next. We know the DeGrootes have psych backgrounds, and we know they're into electromagnetics. We've also been told, in a manner of sorts from two different people, that something terrible will happen if you don't enter the code and push the button.

Desmond, from what we know, was entering the code blindly. Basing his info off of the orientation film and what Kelvin told him when he crashed, if he crashed at all. He never said what terrible thing would happen, he might not know. Dr. Candle was very careful in the film only to say there was an incident. He never went into specifics. He never said which numbers had to be entered, either. There was an odd cut in the film at that point. Maybe there are multiple number sequences, each causing a different thing to happen, or not happen each time it's pressed.

It seems likely, as they're sitting on a giant EM, that the code is somehow controlling the EM but why is the question? I know the Apple II is old and it's no supercomputer, but an execution program could still be written for it so that no one has to enter the numbers manually. It could be programmed to do it automatically every 108 minutes. It would be more exact than human input, too. The people at Dharma want a person to enter the code. The code person(s) is being tested/studied/watched somehow for some purpose.

There is a theory that the code is sending the signal every 108 minutes to a satellite orbiting the Earth. That's how long it would take for the satellite to complete it's orbit and the computer is making a link to it every time the code is input. Some say it would fall out of cycle with the satellite as the code isn't being input at 108 minutes exactly every time. I don't know the science behind it but it seems likely that the sequence has a window of plus or minus 4 minutes on each side and that the computer repeats the signal until it makes it's connection. That window would keep it in sync and allow for human error. Why take the risk?

If the inputting of the code is controlling the EM or a satellite, why leave it up to a human to input when you can be more exact using the computer itself. Yes, you would need to keep a human around to run maintenance on the computer every so often and make sure it's functioning properly, but a person doesn't need to enter the code in manually. Unless the person(s) are being tested or studied.

10. The Island - Is there really and island? As chief Brody once said so eloquently, "It's only and island if you look at it from the water." That being said, if there's no VR or mind control, then yes, it is and island. Michael and Sawyer commented on how big it was when they were on the raft.

11. The DeGroots and Hanso - I think the DeGroots are the one's on the boat who took Walt. Very close resemblance if you add twenty years and figure they themselves have been stranded on the island for a considerable time themselves. Maybe they're mad scientists. Perhaps, Hanso took over their experiments for evil uses and just used them. Now the DeGroots are trying to get back at him or escape the island themselves. It could be they're in it together. Maybe Hanso isn't even alive anymore and they are his cult followers carrying on his evil duty. Whatever the case, I'm convinced Hanso is evil and he is somehow to blame for our losties current state.

12. Claire and the Psychic - The psychic wanted the baby dead. He had a vision about little turnip head and he didn't like what he saw. He knew the plane crash would happen, that's why he put Claire on that specific plane. He just didn't see so far that she would survive the crash. I have a feeling we can still expect interesting things from little turnip head. I don't believe that the others are done trying to get him either.

13. Black Rock/White Rock - There are lots of ideas about this. Some around Ying & Yang, some light vs. dark, etc. This thought, in particular, has to do with Sayid and his possible connection as he may have some knowledge of this. There is a sacred stone in the Islamic faith, and "According to popular Islamic legend, this stone was given to Adam on his fall from paradise and was originally white. It has become black by absorbing the sins of the thousands of (visiting) pilgrims who have kissed and touched it."

14. Walt - This situation still has to play out, but I think he has telekinesis. Perhaps, some ESP or other metal power(s) as well. We've seen evidence of this with the bird and the polar bear. Walt is able to make mental connections with things and somehow draw them near him. He is unaware of this power and how to control it, but he may be a key in the DeGroot's/Hanso's plan. I believe his mother and stepfather Brian, work(ed) for Hanso. His mother may have even contracted the illness from her involvement (or resistance). Working for Hanso, Walt's mother may have been asked to hand over Walt directly to Hanso. When she refused, she may have been exposed to the illness, killing her.

Walt's stepfather may have known about Hanso's desire for Walt as well. Brian definitely knew Walt had some sort of power, he just didn't know what, other than it disturbed him. Brian could have brought Walt directly to NY from Rome, when he went to meet Walt's real father, Michael, just after the mother died. He didn't, though. One reason may have been because Brian was afraid of flying with Walt, knowing of his powers. Another reason could be, that Brian knew Hanso had a plan in the works for getting Walt by downing that plane, and Brian didn't want to be around when it happened.

15. The Books - There may be some significance to the books we've seen in the show as well. While I've never read "The Turn of the Screw" or "The Third Policeman" here's a part of what Wikipedia had to say about each of them.

In "The Turn of the Screw"..."The reader is challenged to determine if the protagonist, a nameless governess, is reliably reporting events or instead is some kind of neurotic with an overheated imagination." - Are our characters neurotic? Are we getting an accurate retelling of past and/or present events? Or was that just thrown in to throw us off?

In "The Third Policeman"..."the narrator...is introduced to various peculiar or irrational concepts, artifacts, and locations, including a contraption that collects sound and converts it to light, a vast underground chamber called 'Eternity,' an intricate carved chest containing an infinite series of identical but smaller chests, and a theory of the transfer of atoms between a man and his bicycle"...Also, "Contributing to the atmosphere of illogic is a series of digressions and footnotes by the narrator on the subject of de Selby and his highly unorthodox theories (he believes the phenomenon of nighttime to be explainable as an accretion of 'black air')" - Again, I see parallels to our island and our "monster" here.

I could just be cherry picking or reading too much into what was written about these books, but they were spoken of directly in the show. Maybe the writers are dropping hints as to some influences or maybe they're trying to throw us off, but I think they've been included on purpose for what ever reason. Also, there's another story I've come across in my travels called, "The Limbo of the Lost?" I have never read this book either and can't see to find too much information on it. Maybe there's a clue in there? Who knows?

16. Odds and Ends - There are many more mysteries in LOST and I'm sure there will be many more to come. I only touched upon a few here but hopefully there will be more to come. Obviously, I am merely speculating on much of this and don't how much or if any of what I guessed will come true. There's more evidence in some cases than other. Either way, I have loads of fun watching the show and trying to figure out what's going on. I hope you all do to. Feel free to add to this thread with posts of your own.

just printed your post and will give it a read...always open to new ideas--even "abstract" ones....

ok, eat, i've read your post and have barely begun researching scalar electromagnetics, haarp and the devil's sea. what i've read so far leads me to say "this guy's onto something".

i'm amazed at how scalar em could easily explain much, if not all of what we're seeing and the "losties" are experiencing--from the crash itself, to potential mind control (flashbacks, behavior, etc.), to the "sickness" (actual physical illness) danielle talks about. as i said, i have barely scraped the surface, but it appears to me that it could explain an actual plane crash with so many survivors. in the most basic sense, if it can control mass--all mass--it could be used to bring the plane in in a "controlled" crash, limiting the casualties in both the fuselage and tail sections.

will continue to read and reread about these and other items mentioned/suggested in your posts. hope to get a lively discussion going when i can discuss things a little more intelligently.

i do want to say that i agree with you about vr not being a likely reason for what we're seeing and hearing. especially now that i am learning the potential and varied uses of scalar em.

thanks for breathing new life into the show with some great ideas!

afterthought: i remember one of tptb saying we should look to the sky (or stars, or some such thing).......still seems to fit, eh?

5. The Numbers - They're all over the place. There must be some meaning, right? Not necessarily, this could be one of those devices that the writers are throwing out there to keep everyone guessing. It's doubtful that's the case. These numbers turn up too often to just be coincidence. The writers have referenced the numbers so often and drawn such attention to them they run the risk of angering and the alienating their fan base if the numbers turn out to be nothing. The guy in the mental hospital, Hurley's lotto ticket, the outside of the hatch, the computer, the transmission, the number of survivors, the seat numbers, the plane number, the gate number, etc. The combination of numbers could mean anything. Each of these numbers by themselves turn up in all sorts of things throughout history, literature, and religions. I've come across a few ideas:

A: Encoded Digital Messages - I believe that the losties are connected by the numbers 4,8,15,16,23,42. I found a website that makes a case for people being connected by numbers. Here is the main section of that page. Pay attention in particular to the 5th paragraph. It might be an explanation.

"Physical reality is a consciousness program created by digital codes. Numbers - numeric codes - define our existence. Human DNA - our genetic memory - is encoded - to be triggered by digits at specific times. Those codes awaken the mind to the change and evolution of consciousness.

We all have one or more numeric codes that follow the blueprint of Sacred Geometry. It is about the spiraling of consciousness - Phi - Fibonacci - Golden Mean Spiral - found in perfection, in the exact proportions in the Great Pyramid - as a reminder of 12 around 1 (source) that create our reality. Reality - the spiral of consciousness as if through a slinky toy - or cones - through many levels of experience - at the same time - for the soul. The spiral gives the illusion of time - but once in meditation or dream state - or beyond the slinky - your frequency is too high - moving too fast - beyond linear time and space.

When you see a repetition of numbers, your DNA is being activated on some level. You are remembering that that you are now returning to higher frequency vibration also called the return of the Feminine Energies - Rebirth - Christ Consciousness - Return of Jesus or another Savior - Evolution of Consciousness into total awareness - and so on. Many believe awakening comes through healing and the creation of balance - 11.

Most digital codes that evoke memory are double digits - or countdowns such as 1,2,3,4,5 or 5,4,3,2,1,0 - which goes to Zero Point Merge

You will experience a sudden awakening after which reality is never the same. You are going to create clarity, healing and balance for yourself. Do not expect others in your life to be on this journey with you. It is yours alone as it is for most souls. You will have to seek new friends of like mind who are also being triggered by the digits. Once you open the Digital Door - there is no going back. Your soul will automatically and quickly move you from level to level of experience until you 'get it'. Your consciousness is expanding and therefore you will - manifest faster and with greater comprehension - becoming more aware of the meaning of synchronicities that will become more and more frequent. They are created by your soul creates to help you remember that you are a soul spark in a physical program that is about to end - evolve back to higher consciousness.

Once you see your numeric codes - you have activated something in your DNA codes and they will continue to appear until you 'get the message' ... it is 'time' to move on.

Upon seeing your digit encoded numbers - you may feel a sense of urgency or related emotions. Chill out! For NOW there is TIME!

The numbers usually signal changes in the patterns of your life. They may confirm something that you are experiencing whenever the numbers appear to you. You may dream also about the numbers - linked with things you do not as yet understand - or wake up at the same time every night with those numbers on your digital clock - i.e. 11:11"

It may be new-age, but I wouldn't entirely put something like this past the writers of the show.


I enjoyed your entire post, but this part excites me. I read a bunch of sites on Sacred Geometry (via crop circles), and find it fascinating. It's pretty heady stuff, but very interesting. Looking forward to more of your posts.


I got curious about the time for each chess move, and found this.

Each player must make a certain number of moves in an allotted period of time, these two factors being specified in advance. The time saved by a player during one period is added to his time available for the next period.

This is just a weird coincidance but thought you might enjoy it. While looking up chess timers, I found this.

http://www.hydeparkchess.com/Clocks/DT-Champion-1.htm

I guess I've been stewing a little since reading an interview with Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse. Your comments here prompted me to actually say something about it.

I agree with your comments about speculation being all in fun. I'm sure most of what we speculate about here will turn out to be wild goose chases but chasing the goose can be a form of fun, hey? If nothing else it's good exercise for the brain and we learn a lot to boot. But what drives us is the thinking that some of it will be right. What if very little of it was right because... well, because there just isn't that much thinking behind the plot?

In this interview, the two statements were made that made me pause.

Will we get any clarification about the numbers this season?
Damon: Carlton might want to punch me for actually going on record and saying this, but I think that that question will never, ever be answered. I couldn't possibly imagine [how we would answer that question]. We will see more ramifications of the numbers and more usage of the numbers, but it boggles my mind when people ask me, "What do the numbers mean?"

Can you confirm that Shannon was, in fact, shot? Fans have been speculating that she looked like she had a stab wound.
Carlton: She was shot.
Damon: People are getting a little too…

They're reaching a little too much?
Carlton: They totally are. And she did not have a Dharma Initiative stamp on her.

Now, this information contains spoilers so it's spoiler fonted but this part isn't a spoiler and I'll requote it here:
Damon: "People are getting a little too..."
Interviewer: "They're reaching too much?"
Carlton: "They totally are."

The first part I quoted says that speculation about a particular plot thread that leads to questions of "What does mean?" [I]boogles their mind. because... even though they are purposefully using a particular element we speculate over here, they have no intention of 'answering that question' of 'what do(es) [it] mean'.

And embedded in this news is the language of 'People are getting a little too...' and it 'boggles their mind when people ask'. This sounds a little like they're looking at us like we're goofs and dang... I knew we were dedicated and perhaps a little nuts... in all the best way that intelligent minds with obsessive tendencies can be. But goofs? I bristle at the thought. (only mildly serious here) But mostly, if they they don't know what things will mean and they think we're reaching too much then hey - I get the message. I'm beginning to think this is wasted effort and I don't say this to discourage you or anyone else. It's myself who is discouraged. As long as this is enjoyable activity to anyone, I say go for it. But if I have limited time and mental resources, then I will choose to spend them on things that might produce results. This intelligent fan with obsessive tendencies has lots of things to fuss over. Lost will just be a diversion on Wednesday nights for me. No more deep thinking.

Sorry if I highjacked your thread. I guess I just saw myself last year at this time and was sad to realize I'm not there anymore.

(oops... forgot to provide the link: http://www.tvguide.com/news/askausiello/)

Nice post, eatpilot1st. Some of it goes right over my dull head, but there's plenty to ponder.

As for anyone remembering the crash: Kate's eyes were open during the crash, and she said that she remembered the whole thing. She told Jack this, after Jack told her he'd blacked-out. And then we were treated to a flashback of Kate getting a huge rush of air blasting into her wide-open baby blues as Flight 815 went down. (Early last season; don't recall the exact ep.)
Hey, I suppose it could have been a planted memory or hallucination...

Personally I hope your theories are less than accurate. Because if you guys are right...I'm WAY too stupid to watch this show!

raven, i read your post and think i understand your point. what i found fascinating about the post by eatpilot regarding the numbers is that "our" numbers may not have a particular meaning for everyone but, to me, they DO have significant meaning to hurley.
You will experience a sudden awakening after which reality is never the same. You are going to create clarity, healing and balance for yourself. Do not expect others in your life to be on this journey with you. It is yours alone as it is for most souls. You will have to seek new friends of like mind who are also being triggered by the digits. Once you open the Digital Door - there is no going back. Your soul will automatically and quickly move you from level to level of experience until you 'get it'. Your consciousness is expanding and therefore you will - manifest faster and with greater comprehension - becoming more aware of the meaning of synchronicities that will become more and more frequent. They are created by your soul creates to help you remember that you are a soul spark in a physical program that is about to end - evolve back to higher consciousness.

Once you see your numeric codes - you have activated something in your DNA codes and they will continue to appear until you 'get the message' ... it is 'time' to move on.

Upon seeing your digit encoded numbers - you may feel a sense of urgency or related emotions. Chill out! For NOW there is TIME!

The numbers usually signal changes in the patterns of your life. They may confirm something that you are experiencing whenever the numbers appear to you.

our numbers have appeared repeatedly to hurley (to everyone else as well, but perhaps merely by association, as "the journey is your alone". they have significantly changed his life--more than once (winning the lottery, changing relationships with friends/family, the hatch)--and likely will continue to appear to him until he "gets the message".

flotsam, your post indicating that kate was awake during the crash and her memory of the whole thing, takes me back to the belief that scalar em could in fact be what we're dealing with. specifically with regard to mind control. again, this is all speculation, but perhaps kate was chosen to be given the "memories" of the crash deliberately (for reasons i can't begin to guess at this point) or entirely randomly (just as long as someone had the memories). despite her now-well-known history, she is liked by all the survivors from the fuselage, and likely to be believed.

eatpilot, in your list of books you did not mention wrinkle in time. i believe the tesseract (another dimension with a warp of space and time) could well be a hint at scalar em as well.

jumping quickly to turn of the screw. it's a wonderful story about a governess who is either (a) witnessing the two children in her charge being visited by and interacting with spirits, or (b) psychologically unbalanced, creating the spirits, their connection to the children and her need to defend them in her own mind. in rereading it recently, i couldn't help but connect the visions of walt by shannon (and now sayid??) to the visions the governess had of the spirits. and in some small way, to the whispers being heard as well. then there's rousseau and her semi-lucid mutterings....

i am just finishing watership down which, i believe also could provide some insight into the plot of lost. especially regarding control of the individual, presumably for the benefit of the whole. when i finish, i'll offer up my thoughts.

i haven't been able to get to third policeman yet. there are no copies in town at the moment (no doubt as a result of lost), so it will have to wait until later.

while i can't say (yet) that i buy into all of what eatpilot has posted, i do think there is substantial evidence to show that much of it is potentially relevant.

just a few more thoughts.....

Hey dude where are you? I'm interested in some more of your input.

Raven I'm feeling the same way you are. I can take the Canadian bashing, snotty posters, foilers etc., but for some reason that interview threw me for a loop. It's taken some of the fun out of the show for me too.

I don't know how many times I've defended our wild theories, and now I'm not into it like I was either.

They better watch what they say before they alienate us. My feelings were hurt. With this type of show your supposed to speculate and try and find answers and connections, and they've basically shot that down. What's up with that?

Hey dude where are you? I'm interested in some more of your input.

Raven I'm feeling the same way you are. I can take the Canadian bashing, snotty posters, foilers etc., but for some reason that interview threw me for a loop. It's taken some of the fun out of the show for me too.

I don't know how many times I've defended our wild theories, and now I'm not into it like I was either.

They better watch what they say before they alienate us. My feelings were hurt. With this type of show your supposed to speculate and try and find answers and connections, and they've basically shot that down. What's up with that?
I posted further on this in another thread and I think I finally owned up to feeling a little hurt and insulted by that interview. Maybe we have run with this way farther then they ever expected. But we (the fans - especially the fierce fans) MADE this show. I am a 50 year old mother of two young men. Married to the same man for 30 plus years. Intelligent, responsible, vote, have good credit, volunteer, work, go to school and find time for fun. I am not a goof! I love to indulge in obsessions but I do bristle at the thought of someone categorizing me as a fan geek of any sort. It's hard enough to get that from those outside of any fan community, to get it from the people who are selling us the product is galling.

I watch shows with much less intelligence than Lost. I can handle that it's not what I thought it was. I just won't have the same sense of excitement that I had in the beginning. I talked this show up to lots of people and I wouldn't anymore. It could run the risk of being to complicated to draw in the casual viewer and not satisfying enough for the more dedicated, intelligent viewer. (And I don't mean to imply a negative here... that if you like it you're not intelligent.)

Food for thought.

'A Wrinkle in Time' is an interesting note to add because if tesseracting was even possible, given the current state of our technology (at least what we know about)....it would be like opening a door, stepping through and closing that same door without any time having been perceived.
A another planet, perhaps, outside of our planetary system, could be reached relatively easily...a Robert Heinlein juv novel had a similar theme. Hmmm

That book might have been called 'Tunnel in the Sky'.....

Another interesting link on the power of electro-magnets:

http://rapturewatch.cephasministry.com/360%20Scalar%20Waves_the%20Power%20of%20the%20Air. html

Another interesting link on the power of electro-magnets:

http://rapturewatch.cephasministry.com/360%20Scalar%20Waves_the%20Power%20of%20the%20Air. html

hmmmm...."weather-warfare"....."Some lunatic [such as Alver Hanso] – a mad dictator, perhaps – is going to hurl these things indiscriminately and feverishly for silly ideas boiling fiercely in his fanatical brain. ".....

nice find, jezbo. the science of scalar em is fascinating. thanks again to eatpilot for triggering my interest!

I love the show lost but what I love the most about it is coming on line and reading all the ideas that the show facilitated wheather they are right or wrong or to far out there for some people, should not be the issue. Instead of sitting there watching TV millions of people are on-line talking about physics and eltromagnatic theroys geography and doing reaserch they would never of done in there lives. Know one is not smart enough for this show it is a tool to learn with. I know thing and have found interest in, things I would never of imaged in my life because of this show. Well I can go on and on but I love these ideas they are great and guess what right or wrong should not be an issue have fun with it!!! Thanx for sharing your ideas and keep posting!!!:smile: :smile: :smile:

Raven & Waltisfuture - I think you guys are taking the writer's comments WAY too seriously. They were specifically talking about the Ana shooting Shannon scene, which produced some fairly wacked-out scenarios by the fanatics. I think all they're saying is - the answers don't always have to be so overly complex and convoluted, sometimes they're fairly straight-forward. As was the case.

People in general are overanalyzing the show. They see a trail in the sand, or some guys shirt that's untucked, and they think it has to mean something. It's possible to take things too far. "Everything happens for reason" doesn't literally mean that every single thing that happens on the show has meaning.

That said, while some of the theories presented at the beginning of this thread are interesting, again, it's too much for a TV show. Most of that stuff would confuse and disillusion the majority of Lost's audience. It's all in good fun, yes, but this is a drama, not an episode of Star Trek or a science experiment.

Raven & Waltisfuture - I think you guys are taking the writer's comments WAY too seriously. They were specifically talking about the Ana shooting Shannon scene, which produced some fairly wacked-out scenarios by the fanatics. I think all they're saying is - the answers don't always have to be so overly complex and convoluted, sometimes they're fairly straight-forward. As was the case.

People in general are overanalyzing the show. They see a trail in the sand, or some guys shirt that's untucked, and they think it has to mean something. It's possible to take things too far. "Everything happens for reason" doesn't literally mean that every single thing that happens on the show has meaning.

That said, while some of the theories presented at the beginning of this thread are interesting, again, it's too much for a TV show. Most of that stuff would confuse and disillusion the majority of Lost's audience. It's all in good fun, yes, but this is a drama, not an episode of Star Trek or a science experiment.

10-4, and this comes from a guy who spent 6 months analyzing car tags from Matrix Reloaded.

Thanks for the very interesting post. I had no idea this kind of technology has been around for 30 years or more, it's quite scary. But if this is really the theory behind Lost (and I suspect it may be), I just wonder how they are going to satisfactorily explain all this to your average TV audience who want quick, comprehendable answers, without having to take a crash course in advanced science in order to accept it. I'm in the science field myself and I can't get my head round it!

Thanks for the very interesting post. I had no idea this kind of technology has been around for 30 years or more, it's quite scary. But if this is really the theory behind Lost (and I suspect it may be), I just wonder how they are going to satisfactorily explain all this to your average TV audience who want quick, comprehendable answers, without having to take a crash course in advanced science in order to accept it. I'm in the science field myself and I can't get my head round it!

There ways of doing that ...they do not need to have it be exact science they can be creative and use it as a jumping off point which to me to an averge viewer would just seem more science fic. There is a way to make the fanactics happy and the normal viewer. I work with people who just watch the show and that is it and they love it even with out all the stuff we have. I off course educate them on some stuff:smile:

I agree that there are many levels on which to enjoy LOST. These theories are interesting and I can grasp some of the concepts. I liked the show before I joined these threads and started hearing all of these theories and speculation. I mostly believed it because of suspended disbelief and creative license. The fact that there are these scientific theories out there which may be the basis for LOST will not deter viewers. There is enough drama and human emotion to appeal to a broader audience. That's the beauty of this show- it's ability to appeal to such a vast audience. I've watched soap operas before, I've seen Pi (the movie), I've read Watership Down, and none of them have intrigued me as much as LOST. It's this shows ability to combine all of these elements that keeps us all happy. eatpilot- I think you've hit on something here, andif you enjoy researching this stuff, then have at it. Enjoy LOST while we have it.

Also- in regards to the interview Lindelof and Cuse, I think they were referring to the fact that people are reading too much into the obvious and the picayune. It wasn't their intent to make Shannon's fate look like something it wasn't. Just like the car in the background was most likely an editing error. They are filming in Hawaii where there are roads and people trying to live their regular lives. I read or heard somewhere about how they had to put up signs about it being a set, because people were driving by and thinking there was an actual plane crash.

I'm of the opinion that the writers just don't want us to know when we're on to something. They want to be the ones "boggling minds", not us/them...I think if we were all online discussing the show like it was your average run-of-the-mill plane crash, they might be hinting in interviews for us to think a little more broadly than we are..either way, I wouldn't take a thing personally - especially when one of the shows themes is "mind-control".

Then again, I'm also of the opinion still that AL didn't shoot Shannon (or if she did, it was entirely choreographed)...*ducks*

I think we should take anything said or done with regards to the show with a grain of salt, and watch things be revealed in time. Rampant speculation (to me), is harmless, if not entertaining between episodes.:grin: :coolorng: :ohwell:

Then again, I'm also of the opinion still that AL didn't shoot Shannon (or if she did, it was entirely choreographed)...*ducks*

Explain this please. It's been pretty well established that Ana shot Shannon (the writers have even stated this). What exactly do you mean by "choreographed?"

You can duck, but you can't hide. :)

Then again, I'm also of the opinion still that AL didn't shoot Shannon (or if she did, it was entirely choreographed)...*ducks*



throwing my 2 cents in.... I agree 100% I think she shot at sayid and missed but did not hit any thing. I think someone else killed her.

I have read appx 200 threads from diffierent blogs and forums and loved a few and hated a few (especially the theories)
I like this one as it has been thought out and discussed and would like to here more from EAT when available.
I also want to go on record as to being obsessed with this show but not fanatical..BIG DIFFERENCE!
We can theorize with this and have fun, even with the writers but we must always remember that this is a show and many of us may be just more intelligent than the writers but not as talented as they are at their art.
Lets trust them and just have fun, whether it be this way or just as a diversion but not down anyone for their place in this elaborate web of mystery and wonder.