This episode sucked! We got NOTHING!!!! NO ANSWERS what so ever. The only moment I liked was the 5 seconds that lasted with Bernard hearing Boone n the radio. There was no monster. There was no hatch mystery. They're were like, "Oh look a door. Neat. Oh a glass eye that must not be anything. Oh some people took the kids, what should we do. Oh, a radio. Oh some weird sign on the wall, who cares. Dum de dum. Then they wasted a good 5-6 minutes on reviewing last week. H-E-L-L-O...we already saw Jin run from them, we already saw Sawyer being carried, we already saw all of them walking through the friggen jungle. Then Ana shoots Shannon and Michael is like, "huh, what was that noise." This epi was a waste of my time and excitement. I am so disappointed. I thought Invasion was better than tonight's LOST and that is saying A WHOLE LOT!

Hater. This site is for JJ fans.

Go watch crap like DH. That seems suited for you low level of intelligence. Or Idol, Alias, Prison Break, or Invasion.

JJ's projects are meant for those of us more advanced on the evolutionary tree.

Ever think that maybe you are expecting too much from a simple TV show? :undecide:

Wow...did you watch the same episode? You didn't think it was interesting that they had a spy amongst them? Or that we understand why the tailies are so mistrusting of Jin, Michael and Sawyer? Or that they've been basically "on the run" from the Others since the crash? It's unfortunate that you think all the answers should just be laid out there for us.

Hater. This site is for JJ fans. Go watch crap like DH. That seems suited for you low level of intelligence. Or Idol, Alias, Prison Break, or Invasion. JJ's projects are meant for those of us more advanced on the evolutionary tree.

Here you go again. This is the second thread in which you have told people that you accuse of being "J.J. haters" to go watch "stupid shows" like "Alias." Uh, dude, "Alias" is a J.J. show. Hello?

Second, the only reason someone would get worked up about an episode of Lost like this is because they care about the show. I disliked this episode too, because I loved last season and the first episode of this season and feel it's been veering off track. I am not a "hater." I bitch because I love.

Wow ... I actually really loved this episode; it reminded me a tad of the Law & Order/Without a Trace thingy when they did the days count down. Personally, I thought it was extremely well done and found myself trying to remember what was going on at the other side of the island (parallel universe idea) at the time.

i loved this show as well. it explains how the tailies became who they are. it explains their attitude toward the island. they were 'attacked' quite early on, while the losties were relatively 'safer'. the plotlines for the tailies were definitely developed in this episode. maybe you were expecting more of the losties? this was a veer from the 'normal' Lost storytelling, and I think TPTB did an excellent job.

I try really hard to never post anything negative to anyone else on the board cause I think it sucks to be put down for your thoughts, but I can't believe you would think this was a bad episode in any way, shape or form. I was actually on the edge of my seat in spite of reading the spoilers about what would happen tonight and thought that TPTB did a great job of putting 48 days into one episode. We have to have some conclusion to the Tailies' side to understand them before we throw them in with our other Losties. otherwise, they just might as well be window dressing. And I totally agree with "rabgal"...it made me try to remember last season at that time frame....a great comparison in their survival to date.

I also believe that this show was great. I almost fell over when Bernard answered Boone on the radio. It gave us a different view of the island and the tragedies that they faced. It gave us a better picture of what is going on. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have never written a TV show therefore I'll continue to let the professionals handle this show.

I almost fell over when Bernard answered Boone on the radio.

I've heard several people say this, but it had no effect on me, as it was a completely predictable non-event as far as I could tell. I was waiting for it to happen -- not necessarily with Bernard, but it had to be one of the tail survivors. We knew that when Boone talked to the voice on the radio last season the voice said "no, we're the survivors of Oceanic 815", and the most obvious, most logical reason someone would have said this is because they were part of the same plane crash. We've known for a few episodes now that these people were on the same plane, Oceanic 815, so it was logically one of them who talked to Boone on the radio. So all we got was a scene of something that was completely logical and comepletely unsurprising that revealed no unforeseen secrets about the show, unless I'm missing something? What was exciting about it?

In all honesty I didnt like the episode either. I think it would have worked better if perhaps it was further into the series.. I didnt want to know what happened to these people right now, I wanted to know what was up with SHannon or perhaps see Rose and Bernard get together. I have to wait for next week for all of that ><. I think it might have worked alittle better if it was incorperated into the next episodes, perhaps people telling what happened, kind of like flash backs. I really didnt think it should have wasted an entire episode. Oh and I LOVE the extra few minutes we got...:rolleyes: I was hoping like another half an hour or whatever.

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wow, I'm so surpised so many people liked this episode.

wow, I'm so surpised so many people liked this episode.

I'm surprised you hated it. This was one of my favorite episodes of Lost to date. I really enjoyed it and if you'd like to find out why, go to the Critical Discussion thread Loved or Hated? Critical Discussion of The Other 48 Days (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=26243)

I've come to realize that we all have different tastes and opinions about the show, but why, oh why did you have to use the Worst Episode Ever thread title? It's fine if you think it's the worst episode ever, but that thread title has been used so many times. Sorry, just tired of the title.

I loved the episode and i thought it answered alot of questions. Who are the others, what do they look like... did the plan actually crash... do the others slaughter the children. I'm not going to tell you to go watch other shows, but just kinda wondering what you think they didn't answer. the mid section people dealt with the 'monster' and the tailies dealt w/ the others' invasion

I'm not sure why you're surprised by that. It was a really good episode!

I think the problem is that you (and a ton of others) got so used to having mysteries revealed that now that is what you wait for to decide whether a show was good or not. The fact is that the story telling was fantastic, and gave insight in to what happened with the tailies. Try not to hate an episode just 'cause it didn't answer any existing questions for you...

It's not just about answering mysteries... it's about character development too.

This show was a 10 for me.

Then don't watch it anymore. I enjoyed finding out about the people in the 'rear'.

i think this was an excellent episode! it furthered the plot and teased us about things we carea bout without giving up too much, it made us care about these new survivors - eko is now almost my favorite character!

i can't wait to see him interact with Locke!

i think of this show like chapters in a book that changes perspective. a lot of times you will have chapters end on a cliff hanger and then switch perspectives to someone not involved in that event and you have to wait one, two, sometiems more chapters to find out what happened with the cliffy!

and omg the opening scene was breathtaking imho!

wow, I'm so surpised so many people liked this episode.

You're surprised that people have a differing opinion?

You're surprised that people have a differing opinion?


No, just that so many people liked it. I believe everyone has a right to their opinion. It's just that this epi. didn't really make me oh WOW! and most of the other episode do. I'm usually like OMG, That's so cool throughout most episodes. This one made me go, yeah, and.... The only cool part was Bernard hearing Boone on the radio.

Eh, I wasn't impressed, but it was nowhere near as bad as Born to Run or Whatever the Case May Be. For once, TPTB tried to squeeze too MUCH story into too little time.

And I really hate to tell Count Chocula this, but JJ has stated that he's too busy with other projects to give a lot of time to Lost this year. It's almost entirely Damon's and CC's show at this point.

I not only liked this episode, I LOVED it! My second favorite of the season so far. And you have to understand, this series will probably go at least four years so that ABC can syndicate it. Knowing that, exactly how fast do you think the writers are going to give up all of their secrets?

I think at this point TPTB could hand us over an episode worthy of the Emmy and still someone would open up a "Worst Episode Ever!" thread. Honestly, if Walkabout had been in the second season, there would be a "Worst Episode Ever!" thread.

Personally, I really liked this episode. We did get a few good insights into the Others and what they're looking for. Not to mention, that scene between Anna Lucia and Goodwin...wow. I mean, the two of them are sitting there and Anna basically just tells him "I know you're one of Them," and they just keep sitting there, knowing that before they leave, one of them will be dead. I was on the edge of my seat. Great episode.

In all honesty I didnt like the episode either. I think it would have worked better if perhaps it was further into the series.. I didnt want to know what happened to these people right now, I wanted to know what was up with SHannon or perhaps see Rose and Bernard get together. I have to wait for next week for all of that ><. I think it might have worked alittle better if it was incorperated into the next episodes, perhaps people telling what happened, kind of like flash backs. I really didnt think it should have wasted an entire episode. Oh and I LOVE the extra few minutes we got...:rolleyes: I was hoping like another half an hour or whatever.
I can see what you're saying, but incorporating the info from The Other 48 Days as flashbacks in the next few episodes would ruin the momentum of next week. As Rose and Bernard do reunite, I don't want to cut to a flashback as to how Bernard ended up on the Island. That would really ruin the moment. But seeing his backstory before the reunion is important. We needed to get all of this information fed to us prior to the two groups' colliding so we already understand and have sympathy for both sides.

Plus, the flashbacks serve to mirror past and present character developments. Their current situations build strength and suspense because of what happened in their previous lives. Not going to be quite as effective if they use this design to flash back to 30 days ago. The emphasis on character growth would be a wee bit dimished.

No, just that so many people liked it. I believe everyone has a right to their opinion. It's just that this epi. didn't really make me oh WOW! and most of the other episode do. I'm usually like OMG, That's so cool throughout most episodes. This one made me go, yeah, and.... The only cool part was Bernard hearing Boone on the radio.

See, that's funny, because the transmission was the only non-"that's so cool" part for me, since I knew it was coming and was waiting for it (it was still awesome to hear Boone on the other end, though :smile: ).

I loved the twists that the writers threw in with Goodwin/Nathan, and the little bits of character development we saw with Ana, Libby and Eko. I'm a lot more interested in them now then I was two days ago, and can't wait to see how they interact with the Fusies.

Overall, I just loved the fact that the writers took a risk. Some people think it paid off (me included), others don't, but at least it means that they're not afraid to try something new. That's one thing that really separates Lost from other TV shows, and one of the main reasons I love it so much, since you can't have the big payoffs unless there's that risk of failure.

I wish that the titles Worst/best episode ever could be banned....

I liked the episode btw.

Umm, did you watch the same episode we did? There was alot of questions answered in this episode. Alot of information given. And is it me or is there a WORST EPISODE EVER post every Thursday now?

We're all fans of the show (At least I hope you are. Otherwise....Why are you here??)

But come on, one mans food is anothers poison. None of these episodes this season have been anything less then totally true to what Lost is all about. I mean if the show is that bad there's always Invasion to watch... *gag reflex*

I think at this point TPTB could hand us over an episode worthy of the Emmy and still someone would open up a "Worst Episode Ever!" thread. Honestly, if Walkabout had been in the second season, there would be a "Worst Episode Ever!" thread.

Personally, I really liked this episode. We did get a few good insights into the Others and what they're looking for. Not to mention, that scene between Anna Lucia and Goodwin...wow. I mean, the two of them are sitting there and Anna basically just tells him "I know you're one of Them," and they just keep sitting there, knowing that before they leave, one of them will be dead. I was on the edge of my seat. Great episode.

I completely agree with you, ennui108. I got chills during that scene, primarily due to the fact that it was the first time we've seen a Lostaway have a face-to-face with one of The Others. I was on the edge of my seat too, even knowing it would end in Goodwin's death. How could it not? Since it's really a matter of personal opinion, maybe we just need to institute a moratorium on the term "Worst ever ..." But that's just my humble opinion.

I thought it was a good epi; it brought energy into the show and I look forward with anticipation to the blending of the groups. It will (should be) very
strained at first, and it should cause the lostaways to start doing some
critical thinking about what is going on, has gone on and will go on, this
Island and what their part is in it and how they can mess it up for the
residents there, in order to get off Craphole Island.

There are obviously intelligent leaders of the resident fanatics on this Island,
and maybe ways to make intelligent contact. The potential for the show is
very exciting; and challenging for tptb.

I, for one, like the new method TPTB have brought into the show. I've said before, I'm a big fan of non-linear storytelling, so I love seeing something, then going back and seeing it again from a different perspective. We're starting to see it more and more in different shows...heck, even CSI: Miami did it, and we know how much those shows aren't cookie-cutter...:drowsy:

I haven't even seen it yet(Had to miss it unfortunately), but I love it anyway. Why? Simply because it IS. C'mon ya'll. This is LOST and you gotta love it because it's just that good.

I think the Worst Episode Ever Thread and the Best Episode Ever Thread are so played out. It is a matter of opinion. How about just talking about the episode without being overly dramitic (i.e. the writting is going down hill and so on)? I am a pretty big fan and probably have watched every episode at least 5 times (probably more). I have to say I wasn't a huge fan of last night's episode, though. I don't know if it was the choppiness of it or what, but I felt like really besides the few comments made by Goodwin.....we really didn't get much new information, and besides getting information....the episode didn't really do much in advancing any of our characters. I think the fact that the Others did not seem as vicious or rutheless as they were described really disappointed me as well. I think either (A) they shouldn't have described them this way or (B) they should have showed them taking out a few of the unknown tallies. I mean it seems more "others" died then tallies. I think people who are saying the show is off track couldn't be more wrong....despite not loving this episode....I still think the show is every bit as good as last year so far.

I think the Worst Episode Ever Thread and the Best Episode Ever Thread are so played out.

So you're saying "Worst Episode Ever" and "Best Episode Ever" are the "Worst Thread Titles Ever?"

While I don't think that this was the worst episode ever, I wouldn't say that I liked it all that much. I think for me I just dind't feel like they could show enough depth of what happened to the tailies in an hour and 4 mins to make me really care for them. There were things that I liked, like the part with Ana and Goodwin when she knew he was an other and he knew it, and getting to hear Boone again. I do think that Eko is an engaging character and I do want to know more about him and I can't wait for Bernard and Rose to be reunited.

I just don't really think this revealed that much about what happened to them that we didn't know. We already knew that they had been attacked by the others early on and that shell shocked them. I just think it's hard to cram it all in one episode like that.

I think if you are watching the show wanting answers you will be disappointed for about 4 years or so. Nothign major is going to be answered for atleast another season. But the story they are telling is honestly just getting going. Last season was basically an introduction to the island. So far this season has been about bringing the "tribes" (I hate calling them that) together so they can have a disco party in the bunker!!

If you are watching the show to be entertained for an hour, hey, you might enjoy yourself a lot more. I think you should lighten up and let it slide. :) Enjoy being told a good adventure story.
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I think that people can love a show and just want to watch it and be entertained for an hour and STILL be disappointed in an episode. This show is great, that's not being disputed..especially with all the other garbage they put on TV. I don't even want answers in every show, that would be boring. I do not think, however, that this particular episode really gave that much insight into the tailies, and to be fair, I don't think the writers have much of a chance to do that with just over an hour. For my part, I think it could have been better.
Spending five seconds on each day, really doesn't give the viewer any chance to feel the emotion of what they were going through. We had a whole season before to experience what Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Charlie, and everybody else went through and I just don't think we got enough sense of the peril/fear that the tailies were dealing with.

No answers?? What in the hell??

We now know:

There was a real plane crash

The others are english speaking people

The others were selecting them for something.

They planted a spy within minutes of them arriving, which could be the case back on the other side.

Boone talked to Bernard

The kids are fine.

We know why the others took who they took.

I dont get the "no answers" complaint. There were more answers in this episode than "what is in the hatch".

If you meant no answers to some main questions we already know, then yeah, those arent here. But there is a lot of information that we werent previously agreed on that was shown in this episode.

This episode sucked! We got NOTHING!!!! NO ANSWERS what so ever. The only moment I liked was the 5 seconds that lasted with Bernard hearing Boone n the radio. There was no monster. There was no hatch mystery. They're were like, "Oh look a door. Neat. Oh a glass eye that must not be anything. Oh some people took the kids, what should we do. Oh, a radio. Oh some weird sign on the wall, who cares. Dum de dum. Then they wasted a good 5-6 minutes on reviewing last week. H-E-L-L-O...we already saw Jin run from them, we already saw Sawyer being carried, we already saw all of them walking through the friggen jungle. Then Ana shoots Shannon and Michael is like, "huh, what was that noise." This epi was a waste of my time and excitement. I am so disappointed. I thought Invasion was better than tonight's LOST and that is saying A WHOLE LOT!

I don't want to get in trouble with the mods over this whole thing so I'll just say this, your post was completely and uttery un-called for.

I'm very surprised. I thought this was a very good episode. We're being given very small parts of a whole thing - and the only way to enjoy a tv show with 24 episodes per season is to go with the flow - which will sometimes be fast paced with lots of new things and other times slower paced to catch everyone up. The purpose of this episode was to take the viewer through 40 days of what the tailies experienced by seeing snippets of significant happenings. I thought it did a good job in doing so.
I wish we could ban worst themed threads - -- we really can't judge the show on 1 episode anyway.

I have two complaints, which were both pretty much bound to happen.

Number one is that it felt rushed. Well, duh. It's going to be rushed because they're fitting 48 days into one episode. I think they could have done better by splitting up the episode into two parts and expanding upon the things that happened, as in more than just two sentences spoken per day.

Number two is that it had almost nothing to do with the original Lostaways, whom I like better, as I've already said...except for stuff we saw before. Well duh again. Of course it wouldn't have anything to do with them... It's the Tailaways! I was hoping this would assuage my fears that the girl who plays AnaLucia would turn out to be the worst actor on the show, but so much for that...I'm not sure she was the right choice for the role...Though, to be fair, I like Mr. Eko more that I know more about where he came from (Though I liked him before this eposode, too).

So those two factors sort of grouped together and made it into an episode I wasn't that happy with. It just wasn't the best-done episode ever. I understand both that it had to be done and that it had to be done the way it was, so I am not going to say it was the worst ever. There were a couple choices that couldv'e been made differently, but such is life.

LOST is still the show I love most, and still a hundred million times better than 99% of the other TV shows I am exposed to. I'm just dying to see what happens to everyone now that we've all been brought up to speed!

I think that people can love a show and just want to watch it and be entertained for an hour and STILL be disappointed in an episode.

Yeah, so do I. I have two episodes this season that I did not like. But I'm not watching the show to get answers, I dig the characters and the first season was flat out amazing.

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I actually thought this episode was great and was really more like information overload. There was so much packed in the dialogue and each scene it demanded immediate rewatching. I was happy with what we learned and the new mysteries that you know we have to get to keep everything going. Answer all the questions and you don't need to watch the show anymore. That would be no fun.

We learned a heck alot about the Others, no ?


This episode sucked! We got NOTHING!!!! NO ANSWERS what so ever. This epi was a waste of my time and excitement.

I enjoyed this episode...it left me thirsting for more info on the taillies. Alot jam-packed in one episode, so it had to be just a summary. Like some of us, I pegged the radio thing before it happened. Can't wait to **hopefully** get background info on the taillies and how they relate to the original gang. for me? This is the ONLY network show I watch. I'm addicted! Hubby says I'm obsessed!

It was the best episode this season. It felt like last season to me where the other episodes felt different.

Awkward that I choose to return in a thread with this title..

I liked the episode but I found it to be a bit cheesy. It was *talk talk talk* NEXT DAY *blah blah blah* NEXT DAY. It just wasn't a smooth transition, the fast-paced recap stuff with the funky music seemed kinda lame too. I thought it had some great stuff in it but those two things just came off really cheesy to me. It doesn't really affect how I enjoyed the show I just wanted to put that out here.

As a former "Worst Episode Ever" titlist, I wanted to defend the thread author's decision to re-use it. When you are so disgusted and disappointed in an episode, and all that is boiling inside you, what title would you go for? I think its a perfectly fine title that will attract attention, especially from those who may have the power to do something about it, even if just because it has become cliche and annoying to some. Its not like the Best and Worst Episode Ever titles make an appearance in every episode forum, there is always the "Master List of Observation", "The Countdown Thread", and a "Rate this Episode Thread". Why does this over-use annoy you and not any of those? I don't think any title should be "banned" or thread deleted because it is used too often. There is no need to be politically correct with a "This was my least favorite episode ever, but it's ok if you enjoyed it" title. Its just opinions, and the only way its going to make a difference is if its the opinion of a vast majority, and if so, its probably for the better. So just sit tight and let people vent, it can help alot.

I don't care if people vent. Vent away. I don't care if they hate an episode.

We are asking for a little creativity and imagination is all. Once a bunch of us got together and made a parody "Worst Episode Ever' and I admit that I started the "Creepiest Episode' Ever for DEM. Someone tongue in cheek started the "Most Average Episode every'...why did we do all that? Because the titles "Worst/Best Ever' have become hackneyed and cliche. It doesn't 'mean' anything anymore. Its gotten to a place of 'oh no..here we go again'. A long drawn out argument where no one agrees and usually ends up with people snipping at each other and no consensus is reached. PC-ness has little to do with it. I think I could stand it better if someone just said "I absolutely without apology hated this episode' because then at least they wouldn't be hiding behind what has become an old chestnut of a topic header.

The list threads are just that..lists. They are not opinions placed in the subject line. For some odd reason that doesn't bother us as much.

woa Elfdream... you totally summed up my feelings about the matter! Get out of my miiiiiind!!!!

I think because this show was so different than previous episodes some people didn't like it. Usually it is background about one person who is featured on the island. This episode said nothing about the tailies pre-flight lives, only what has happened since the crash.

Now we have reasons why they were so distrustful of 'our survivors/buddies' and they have normal human problems under the very difficult circumstances.

A.L. and Eko have potential to have major roles in future stories.

I still wonder what Eko meant when he said "worse" when Sawyer asked if he was married.

this episode wasnt meant to be an episode to answer questions or ask many new ones, based on production errors and other screw-ups this was thrown together to fill us in on the relatively uneventful, yet violent history of the "tailies"

This episode sucked! We got NOTHING!!!! NO ANSWERS what so ever.

most of the best episodes (imho) sparked far more questions than they answered. i'm not saying that last night's episode was one of the best but i think there were enough 'omgwtf?' moments to keep most of us sufficiently gripped.

i can understand a certain frustration in the fact that the plot didn't necessarily progress any further that has already been portrayed but we needed to get the tailenders backstory at some point and i guess this way it builds the tension for the (re)unification of the two groups of survivors next week. hopefully, sparks will fly :)

You are entitled to your opinion, but I have to disagree. I liked the episode and I liked seeing the tailies stories. I think it gives us some background info before the two groups are brought together. I think, perhaps, that many have set very high expectations for what is just a tv show. Everyone wants answers to the mysteries, when it is the mysteries that make this such a great show! Enjoy the show for what it is - a good show with interesting characters and a great story.

I don't care if people vent. Vent away. I don't care if they hate an episode.

We are asking for a little creativity and imagination is all. Once a bunch of us got together and made a parody "Worst Episode Ever' and I admit that I started the "Creepiest Episode' Ever for DEM. Someone tongue in cheek started the "Most Average Episode every'...why did we do all that? Because the titles "Worst/Best Ever' have become hackneyed and cliche. It doesn't 'mean' anything anymore. Its gotten to a place of 'oh no..here we go again'. A long drawn out argument where no one agrees and usually ends up with people snipping at each other and no consensus is reached. PC-ness has little to do with it. I think I could stand it better if someone just said "I absolutely without apology hated this episode' because then at least they wouldn't be hiding behind what has become an old chestnut of a topic header.

The list threads are just that..lists. They are not opinions placed in the subject line. For some odd reason that doesn't bother us as much.

What difference does it make to you what the title of a thread is? There will always be negative comments about an episode of Lost, and no matter what the title, loyalists will be eager to add a combative reply attempting to negate the points made by the original author. I know myself that I have done that in the past and I will never understand why the need is there to combat someone's personal opinions. This happens each week when someone is disappointed in an episode, regardless of what the title of the thread may be. There is no argument in these threads when people can remain respectful of each other. There is absolutely no consensus to be reached. The episode is over and everyone has already formed their opinions, I don't think anyone should be here with the goal of swaying over someone's opinion. Only one's self can really alter their own opinion.

Awkward that I choose to return in a thread with this title..
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;)

Welcome back Andy. Don't get baited :)

Just posted this in another thread but it applies to this one.


I only got around to watching the show tonight, but I guess I am also part of the few that found this episode a bit disappointing. For me, it was the sorry performance by the Others. I can definitely see Ecko taking out two of them but I didn't buy Ana-Lucia's good fortune for one second. It just made the Others seem like a joke. Yeah, they took 9 or more people, but they way they have been building up the tail section's plight, it seems like it should have been much worse. The Others are supposed to be really menacing, but they are always easily defeated. Jack's ridiculous solo victory over Ethan is one example. They made him out to be so physically tough when he took Charlie and Claire, but then he was a joke when Jack encountered him. Still less disappointing than Ana Lucia fighting off Goodwin.

While I have never liked Ana-Lucia for various reasons, this episode just solidifies her as a one dimensional character. They need to do something with her soon.

I guess the producers realized their mistake when they showed us too much repetitive footage from the first three episodes. They just decided to claim that this was a special extended episode to fit in the unnecessary montage. That, and every time they changed day, they went to a black screen for a few seconds. The episode could have easily ended with Libby and Cindy finding Jin on the beach.

Love it or hate it, but I don't see how anyone could be disappointed for expecting a ton of answers to the Shannon/AL/Sayid thing when we knew this was going to be a catch-up episode on things that had already happened, leading up to that point.

Also, this episode was really an Ana-Lucia flashback in disguise. It makes me sad that we are going to get another one this week. I'm going out on a limb to say that her flashback is going to be worse than any of Jack's or Kate's flashbacks. And that's pretty hard to do.

Its easy to see why some would not be much of a fan of this epi. By all means it definitely felt rushed but lets face it - we are so accustomed to drawn out, slow moving episodes so its difficult to get a bearing on the pace of this episode. It was strange that days and weeks would just zip by with almost no interaction, but then again I expect that it had to done that way to keep Lost moving forward, though I do agree that it might have been wiser to two-part that epi to allow more character interaction.

I like Mr. Ecko tho. He has the potential to make a big impact on this show. And I think those that complain that there were no answers to any questions, truly were not paying attention because of their own frustration. Great closure on several issues. I didnt like its zippy pace but then again, ironically, sometimes that is exactly what each die hard fan is hungry for. In the end, I am satisfied with the epi tho initially I wasnt too impressed.

You're right, Ecko is definitely promising. He is already one of my favorite characters on the show. I can't wait to see how him and Locke are going to interact?


Spoiler:

When is he supposed to get beat to a pulp by that guy in the boar maks?

Yeah, so do I. I have two episodes this season that I did not like. But I'm not watching the show to get answers, I dig the characters and the first season was flat out amazing.

Njc-------------------

I'm not looking for answers in every episode, either, as I previously stated, that would be boring. The constant intrigue is the appeal, BUT I still don't think this episode gave us a very good insight into the kind of people that tailies are, I'm sure that will be coming, though.

At first I was skeptical before the show and was thinking...'oh, no Locke, Hurley, or Sawyer tonight'...plus Ana was so mean in the other episodes that she appeared in so I was not looking forward to it. Then I watched it and I was glued to the screen. It was awesome. One of the best. It explained why Ana is the way she is. You realize how hard they had it there. Remember, they were attacked by the Others first and had people taken out of their camp. They didn't have any luggage or medicine to sift through. They didn't have a medical doctor (Libby is a clinical psychologist) on their side. They couldn't change their clothes, etc. It was extremely rough for them.

It was an excellent show - it gave me a whole new outlook on Ana, and made me like Eko even more and Bernard, he is a cutie pie - I can't wait until he gets reunited with his wife. I'm sorry it wasn't what you expected, but as you can see, there are alot of people that did indeed like it.

What difference does it make to you what the title of a thread is? There will always be negative comments about an episode of Lost, and no matter what the title, loyalists will be eager to add a combative reply attempting to negate the points made by the original author. I know myself that I have done that in the past and I will never understand why the need is there to combat someone's personal opinions. This happens each week when someone is disappointed in an episode, regardless of what the title of the thread may be. There is no argument in these threads when people can remain respectful of each other. There is absolutely no consensus to be reached. The episode is over and everyone has already formed their opinions, I don't think anyone should be here with the goal of swaying over someone's opinion. Only one's self can really alter their own opinion.

I think it's great that people come to the board to comment on their own personal feelings about an episode. It would be an awfully boring message board if everyone had the same opinion. I agree that everyone should trust eachother's opinions. There's no need to get nasty just because someone has a different thought than someone else. JMO :smile:

I don't care about people's opinions. They can hate the episode...that's not the point.

Its the title of the thread we don't like and there is more that feel that way than just me. What difference does it make? Not a whole lot but just like people can express their opinons of the episode freely..why can't people express their opinions about an oversued no meaning hackneyed clice trite title of a thread freely?

I think it's great that people come to the board to comment on their own personal feelings about an episode. It would be an awfully boring message board if everyone had the same opinion. I agree that everyone should trust eachother's opinions. There's no need to get nasty just because someone has a different thought than someone else. JMO :smile:


Exactly. I'm sure that we all love the show here. Otherwise, we wouldn't be on this board. Regardless of the title of the thread, it indicates a personal opinion of an episode of a show that we are all fascinated with. Some of us just see flaws in a masterpiece. No harm in expressing our opinions!

I loved this epi and was glued to the couch during the entire show. The opening scen was stellar and we got the see that tail actually crashed. I was scared to go pee because I thought I might miss a second or two (even though it was being recorded for hubby). We learned A LOT, whether you realize it or not. I really like Ecko's character and even AL is growing on me. There's much more to her than we know. That scene with she and Goodwin was riveting. As for Bernard, I'm suspicious of him and I'm not sure why. Something's off about Libby too. We got to see more of the arrow hatch and what the heck is up with that glass eye and bible? The Boone radio moment was expected but still cool. Then we got to see that AL did shoot Shannon. The only thing I was disappointed in was the lack of fierceness in the others. I was expecting killer savage beasts. I guess we were taught another lesson perspective, i.e kidnapping survivors of a plane crash is scary stuff if you're one of the few left. The others may not be scary, but I wouldn't mess with Ecko - he scares the crap out of me!!! We're looking at foil groups here. The fuselage group had some scares, but have been able to set of camps, find food and even relax. They're a diverse group, for sure, but we've elarned a lot about them so far. Charlie is the only one I'm suspicious of. As for the tailies, they've been running for their lives. Also, they are very mysterious because we know so little about them. When these two groups collide, sparks will fly. I can't wait. There's got to be some set up ya know.

I've heard several people say this, but it had no effect on me, as it was a completely predictable non-event as far as I could tell. I was waiting for it to happen -- not necessarily with Bernard, but it had to be one of the tail survivors. We knew that when Boone talked to the voice on the radio last season the voice said "no, we're the survivors of Oceanic 815", and the most obvious, most logical reason someone would have said this is because they were part of the same plane crash. We've known for a few episodes now that these people were on the same plane, Oceanic 815, so it was logically one of them who talked to Boone on the radio. So all we got was a scene of something that was completely logical and comepletely unsurprising that revealed no unforeseen secrets about the show, unless I'm missing something? What was exciting about it?


Ana's reaction to it


also..you mention above how we knew Boone was going to talk with a tailsection survivor and that it was the most logical explanation..etc..etc..I believe the "WE" you are referring to is us. The fans who read these message boards everyday. We base our opinions not only on episodes we don't like but i believe subconsciously on what "insider" info we have or foilers we've read. I was re-watching this episode with my sisters who have no idea about these message boards, foilers, spoilers, yada yada yada. They were so surprised when Bernard spoke with Boone on that radio transmission. They remembered that episode from the first season and put 2 and 2 together. There are more "not in the know" audience who watch LOST than there are Fuselagers, ABC boarders and so on who post about it... that is what I believe what you are missing.

I don't care about people's opinions. They can hate the episode...that's not the point.

Its the title of the thread we don't like and there is more that feel that way than just me. What difference does it make? Not a whole lot but just like people can express their opinons of the episode freely..why can't people express their opinions about an oversued no meaning hackneyed clice trite title of a thread freely?

Actually, this thread started by discussing the opinions of one person who thought this was the worst episode ever. Whether or not you are tired of the possibly overused title of a thread is off topic for this particular discussion, not to mention the fact that maybe to the person that started this thread it was the worst episode ever, which is their opinion. My previous point was why don't we respect each other's opinions instead of maligning one another. It seems to me that most are still discussing the reasons for liking and disliking the episode.

To me the title of the thread is a lot less important than the content within it.

I don't care about people's opinions. They can hate the episode...that's not the point.

Its the title of the thread we don't like and there is more that feel that way than just me. What difference does it make? Not a whole lot but just like people can express their opinons of the episode freely..why can't people express their opinions about an oversued no meaning hackneyed clice trite title of a thread freely?

Well, the difference is that people have reasons for not liking an episode. Saying "This Episode was the Worst Ever" has ALOT of meaning. It's telling you just how disappointed the author is with the episode. What is the big deal with the title? Thats what I am trying to get at. Is it really necessary for so many people to come in these threads and complain that the title is overused if thats the only problem?

It all boils down to people getting tired of seeing the title. Is it necesarry to use the same title over and over and over....how about a little creativity next time?

Elfdream was just saying (I think: I don't want to put words in her mouth, but I have the same complaint as well) that after EVERY SINGLE EPISODE no matter WHAT HAPPENS that some person has to jump on the 'lage and declare that the new show was the WORST EPISODE EVER!!!! By putting up this thread title they are obviously just trying to start an argument and stir up #&*$ on the board. In fact, I try not to make a habit of even coming into these threads because they are always the same. The title of the thread always says Worst Episode Ever (no matter who writes it) and these people always complain of either two dimensional characters or the ever popular "NO REAL ANSWERS!" Please. Maybe some of you are too new on this board to notice but as long as Elfdream and I have been here we have seen this happen after every first run episode for the past year. This is nothing new. It is annoying that it continues by some childminded jerks just to stir up people on the board and make people cyber-yell at each other. They are baiting you all...the best thing to do is not to even bite. Don't come into these threads, don't post on them, don't give the people any credit at all. If people would just STOP POSTING on these WORST EPISODE EVER!!!! threads, they wouldn't remain at the top of page one of the episode board for everyone to see and to perpetuate. Let's just bury them like the Tailies bury their dead. If you see this thread title on the next episode- don't give the children who start these threads the time of day or the attention that they want. Just ignore the thread. It will end up on the last page of the board and no hurt feelings. These people are just acting as trolls- so you could feed the trolls and get mad when tempers erupt or you can not feed the trolls and watch them go away.

I think the Worst Episode Ever Thread and the Best Episode Ever Thread are so played out. It is a matter of opinion. How about just talking about the episode without being overly dramitic (i.e. the writting is going down hill and so on)? I am a pretty big fan and probably have watched every episode at least 5 times (probably more). I have to say I wasn't a huge fan of last night's episode, though. I don't know if it was the choppiness of it or what, but I felt like really besides the few comments made by Goodwin.....we really didn't get much new information, and besides getting information....the episode didn't really do much in advancing any of our characters. I think the fact that the Others did not seem as vicious or rutheless as they were described really disappointed me as well. I think either (A) they shouldn't have described them this way or (B) they should have showed them taking out a few of the unknown tallies. I mean it seems more "others" died then tallies. I think people who are saying the show is off track couldn't be more wrong....despite not loving this episode....I still think the show is every bit as good as last year so far.

But I did think it was the worst episode ever. I'm entitled to my opinion

For real discussion --
Title: What did you think of this episode? (other 48 days)
Content: Discussion of what people thought.. good, bad, best, worst, in between

I don't care about people's opinions. They can hate the episode...that's not the point.

Its the title of the thread we don't like and there is more that feel that way than just me. What difference does it make? Not a whole lot but just like people can express their opinons of the episode freely..why can't people express their opinions about an oversued no meaning hackneyed clice trite title of a thread freely?


who cares what the title of the thread is. It's how I felt so that's what I titled it.

Well the episode did confirm something for me. That there are Dharma Initiative bunkers all over the island. This opens the posibility the island is the main site of the Dharma Initiative itself and owned by the Hanso corporation.

Some of us care....but we are getting nowhere with the argument.

who cares what the title of the thread is. It's how I felt so that's what I titled it.

Some of us care...or we wouldn't have commented.

But we are getting nowhere with this argument...just going around in circles.

Best episode so far! Forget about Bernhard/Rose reunion next week, I'm interested in the Ana Lucia/Jack reunion.

Can't we all just be friends? ;)

i like this episode i just wished it was like 2 hours long so they can get in more detail of the tailies. we had 24 episodes about the other losties so it woulda been nice if we had a longer episode. i about jumped out my chair when i heard boones voice :shock1: ...i cant remember much else (i've got a really bad memory :ermm: )

i loved this show as well. it explains how the tailies became who they are. it explains their attitude toward the island. they were 'attacked' quite early on, while the losties were relatively 'safer'. the plotlines for the tailies were definitely developed in this episode. maybe you were expecting more of the losties? this was a veer from the 'normal' Lost storytelling, and I think TPTB did an excellent job.

I liked it too, but I felt very rushed. We all said, "This could cover an entire season!" and in some ways I almost wish it would. I know we've all come to know and love the original losties, but I think we could find the tailies just as captivating if we knew more of their story, and had time to let it sink in, like we did with the originals. It was like watching a movie in super fast-forward.

However, I have to say that in just one short episode, Mr. Eko soared right to the top three of my "favorite characters" list. There's a character with an interesting backstory if there ever was one! And I don't even know what it is! :smile: We need to see much more of him.

The only argument I see going on in this thread are some people telling the original poster what his title shouldn't be. Everything in this thread related to the episode has been a discussion.

Hater. This site is for JJ fans.

Go watch crap like DH. That seems suited for you low level of intelligence. Or Idol, Alias, Prison Break, or Invasion.

JJ's projects are meant for those of us more advanced on the evolutionary tree.
hehe, you called Alias crap and it's made by good ol' JJ too. I'm sure someone else has noticed this too, but it was just too amusing not to post.

i think this show was kind of boring. it is stuff we already have seen, other than the goodwin part, that was the only good thing in this episode and as far as them saying extended lost. please please show us something new and not in stupid flashing vision. and not stuff we have already seen. especially dont show us a bad episode after the cool show last week.

i think this show was kind of boring. it is stuff we already have seen, other than the goodwin part, that was the only good thing in this episode and as far as them saying extended lost. please please show us something new and not in stupid flashing vision. and not stuff we have already seen. especially dont show us a bad episode after the cool show last week.

The "stuff we've already seen" only took up the last 10 minutes of the show. The other 40 minutes was packed with new things that we couldn't possibly have seen before before since it happened on the other side of the island.

I find it interesting that there aren't many people "in between": either you loved the episode (and rightly so ;)) or you didn't find it compelling. There's really isn't much of a middle ground.

And about the thread title: I just find that it loses its impact when every single episode is the "worst episode ever". (technically, wouldn't it be "one of the worst episodes ever" since there were like 30 other worst episodes before it?).

And about the thread title: I just find that it loses its impact when every single episode is the "worst episode ever". (technically, wouldn't it be "one of the worst episodes ever" since there were like 30 other worst episodes before it?).


Thank you. Exactly our point.

Exactly, Shep.

Thank you. Exactly our point.


Seriously, if you don't like the title of the thread, just ignore it. In my opinion, anyone should be able to post just about anything. I just can't believe this is such a big deal.

Seriously, if you don't like the title of the thread, just ignore it. In my opinion, anyone should be able to post just about anything. I just can't believe this is such a big deal.

I completely agree. The original post said nothing derogatory about any other poster. His/her definition of what's good TV and what's not might be different from someone else's, but I think people forget that a discussion board isn't just made to praise the show; it's for opinions of all kinds. I know that people develop deep loyalties to things like this, but seriously, I don't think JJ's going to get his feelings hurt if not everyone who comes here is crazy about every episode, or if someone criticizes the show.

---->insert famous Rodney King quote here<-----

We never said the thread starter said anything derogatory about anyone. We don't care if someone doesn't like an episode. THey don't have to praise the show. Its the thread title.

I think one reason we can't ignore it is because sometimes we don't believe it is the worst episode ever and we can't stand to see that thread kept at the top of the page...but alas for some reason threads with those titles seem to get more posts than 'Best Episode Ever' and the thread is full of good posts about why its NOT the worst episode ever..but they are buried until that title.

Most of us much prefer the critical analysis threads that does not start off with such a declarative statement in the title.

This episode sucked! We got NOTHING!!!! NO ANSWERS what so ever. The only moment I liked was the 5 seconds that lasted with Bernard hearing Boone n the radio. There was no monster. There was no hatch mystery. They're were like, "Oh look a door. Neat. Oh a glass eye that must not be anything. Oh some people took the kids, what should we do. Oh, a radio. Oh some weird sign on the wall, who cares. Dum de dum. Then they wasted a good 5-6 minutes on reviewing last week. H-E-L-L-O...we already saw Jin run from them, we already saw Sawyer being carried, we already saw all of them walking through the friggen jungle. Then Ana shoots Shannon and Michael is like, "huh, what was that noise." This epi was a waste of my time and excitement. I am so disappointed. I thought Invasion was better than tonight's LOST and that is saying A WHOLE LOT!

I think you may be watching for different reasons than most of us. Not every episode is about getting answers, or seeing the monster.

What was exciting about it?

My Reply:

I can't believe I'm reading anything but what a good show this was. Different characters. A different part of the island. Different hardships. A uniting of the two set of survivors. It had The Others in it. From beginning to end, a fascinating and exciting episode.

GB

I kind of liked this episode length flashback but then I liked Lost and Found more so I may not reflect the views of the board majority :biggrin:

We never said the thread starter said anything derogatory about anyone. We don't care if someone doesn't like an episode. THey don't have to praise the show. Its the thread title.

I realize that. My point was that if he wasn't being insulting, then he has a right to say anything he likes, and give it a name that he thinks fits the substance of the post.

I think one reason we can't ignore it is because sometimes we don't believe it is the worst episode ever and we can't stand to see that thread kept at the top of the page...but alas for some reason threads with those titles seem to get more posts than 'Best Episode Ever' and the thread is full of good posts about why its NOT the worst episode ever..but they are buried until that title.

I understand what you mean, but if you can't stand to see it at the top of the page, then answering it might not be the best idea. :ohwell: Others will post about it, but it will eventually go away (and I'll be nice and stop after this so I can help you out). :grin: I guess it's just one of the anti-perks of free speech.

Most of us much prefer the critical analysis threads that does not start off with such a declarative statement in the title.

Lots of threads start out with a declarative statement, and there is plenty of critical analysis that goes on in them. It's probably just that most of the titles are positive (although not all the discussion that goes on in them is), and the negative ones bug some people. But like I said, I believe this is a discussion of the good AND the bad, and so not all of it will be pleasant. The other alternative is to put the thought police on patrol here, and I don't think anyone would like that after awhile.

Just my .02.

is any episode a bad one? I've read such angry postings over the killing of shannon, what a bitch ana is, how lame jack is as a leader, etc., etc., ad barf.....

that one episode doesn't answer many questions but giving background is a bad thing?

adopt a little more locke philosophy (the good, not the bad, wierd or freaky) and just let the show be what it will be. if it gets too stupid or pointless it will end. and i for one prey (hehe) that won't be for another seson or two...

lg

I have only one complaint with this episode ...

I've always been a fan of the redshirts, and i like looking for them in the background, and i was very dissapointed by them this ep. They pretty much all seemed to be middle aged over weight guys. There was actually only one female redshirt too (who eko pulled out of the water).

Well I really enjoyed this episode. I was really intrigued about the conversation Ana had with Goodwin before she killed him and it made me go from hating Ana to slightly liking her character.

I just think that people have to stop expecting to find out answers in every eppy. It isn't going to happen. This eppy wasn't so much for answers as it was to give us a glimpse into what happened when the tailies crashed. We didn't get answers when we first learned about what was happening with our gang in season one ... so why should anyone expect answers when finding out what happened to the tailies? It was one eppy, give them time to delve deeper into the things they found.

I've said this before, and so have a lot of people here, if you expect answers in every eppy you're going to be disappointed with many eppys because it's just not going to happen.

Try to enjoy each show for what it gives and when clues are given, take them and hold on to them. When questions are answered, take them and file them away as "done." But don't expect answers all the time. Sometimes you'll get them, sometimes you won't.

I can't really see the point in discussing whether it is okay for someone to hate a specific episode or not. Also I can't share the reasons for TO48D to be bad given by the thread starter. But, hey, everyone is entitled to have his own opinion, so here's mine:

I don't think that thie epi was the worst, but I think it was far from great as well. For one there was no real story arc, no buildup of suspense. They rather showed a series of scenes, some exciting, some not so interesting. It sure was a thrill to finally learn about the tailie's story, but I had the feeling that the show was dragging on and on... Another bother to me was that the editing was sloppy at times. For example the cut and against cut scene with Libby, the man with the broken leg and Ana at the beach didn't go together at all. To me it all made the impression, that the Producers somehow lacked motivation.

Well no hard feelings, TPTB chose this way to tell us what had happened. Now we know, please don't do it again like this.

Philipp

i think this was an excellent episode! it furthered the plot and teased us about things we carea bout without giving up too much, it made us care about these new survivors - eko is now almost my favorite character!

i can't wait to see him interact with Locke!

i think of this show like chapters in a book that changes perspective. a lot of times you will have chapters end on a cliff hanger and then switch perspectives to someone not involved in that event and you have to wait one, two, sometiems more chapters to find out what happened with the cliffy!

and omg the opening scene was breathtaking imho!
Me, too, sier! I want them to meet. I just know they'll get along ... unless Locke feels threatened by Eko. No one has come close to him in skills and all so it might just make him feel jealous.
I, for one, like the new method TPTB have brought into the show. I've said before, I'm a big fan of non-linear storytelling, so I love seeing something, then going back and seeing it again from a different perspective. We're starting to see it more and more in different shows...heck, even CSI: Miami did it, and we know how much those shows aren't cookie-cutter...:drowsy:
I like that, too. Seeing things from a different perspective gives us info that we couldn't have had otherwise. I like that new style a lot.
I haven't even seen it yet(Had to miss it unfortunately), but I love it anyway. Why? Simply because it IS. C'mon ya'll. This is LOST and you gotta love it because it's just that good.
You know, you're right (for me, anyway). I haven't seen one single eppy yet that I could say I didn't like. Not one.
I think the Worst Episode Ever Thread and the Best Episode Ever Thread are so played out. It is a matter of opinion. How about just talking about the episode without being overly dramitic (i.e. the writting is going down hill and so on)? I am a pretty big fan and probably have watched every episode at least 5 times (probably more). I have to say I wasn't a huge fan of last night's episode, though. I don't know if it was the choppiness of it or what, but I felt like really besides the few comments made by Goodwin.....we really didn't get much new information, and besides getting information....the episode didn't really do much in advancing any of our characters. I think the fact that the Others did not seem as vicious or rutheless as they were described really disappointed me as well. I think either (A) they shouldn't have described them this way or (B) they should have showed them taking out a few of the unknown tallies. I mean it seems more "others" died then tallies. I think people who are saying the show is off track couldn't be more wrong....despite not loving this episode....I still think the show is every bit as good as last year so far.
I'm not a fan of the "diary" style of filming ... Day One, Day Two, etc. It does make the flow choppy but, I guess, in this case it had to be done.
So you're saying "Worst Episode Ever" and "Best Episode Ever" are the "Worst Thread Titles Ever?"
Bingo!
Yeah, so do I. I have two episodes this season that I did not like. But I'm not watching the show to get answers, I dig the characters and the first season was flat out amazing.

Njc-------------------
Yes! It's all a part of the pie. Who eats pie just for the crust? Just for the filling? Just for the topping? We eat the whole pie even though we may have certain parts we prefer.
Love it or hate it, but I don't see how anyone could be disappointed for expecting a ton of answers to the Shannon/AL/Sayid thing when we knew this was going to be a catch-up episode on things that had already happened, leading up to that point.
This is so true. The title of the eppy alone should have let anyone know that it delt with "The Other 48 Hours." ;)
At first I was skeptical before the show and was thinking...'oh, no Locke, Hurley, or Sawyer tonight'...plus Ana was so mean in the other episodes that she appeared in so I was not looking forward to it. Then I watched it and I was glued to the screen. It was awesome. One of the best. It explained why Ana is the way she is. You realize how hard they had it there. Remember, they were attacked by the Others first and had people taken out of their camp. They didn't have any luggage or medicine to sift through. They didn't have a medical doctor (Libby is a clinical psychologist) on their side. They couldn't change their clothes, etc. It was extremely rough for them.

It was an excellent show - it gave me a whole new outlook on Ana, and made me like Eko even more and Bernard, he is a cutie pie - I can't wait until he gets reunited with his wife. I'm sorry it wasn't what you expected, but as you can see, there are alot of people that did indeed like it.
And it showed AL to be the liar and bully that she was when we first met her! It showed us that she lied about who killed Goodwin ... not just to Jin, Sawyer and Michael but to her own group! Why? To keep them in fear so they'll follow her. I really, really, REALLY don't trust this gal.
Well the episode did confirm something for me. That there are Dharma Initiative bunkers all over the island. This opens the posibility the island is the main site of the Dharma Initiative itself and owned by the Hanso corporation.
YAY! Leaves more chances for Desmond to pop back up!!! :biggrin:

I didn't think that this episode was that bad. I just hope that some questions do get answered. Not all but some.

The exciting part was getting a glimpse into the storyline of the other survivors.It also gave a chance to develop the characters a bit more.It is also a weekly tv show not a 2 hour movie, they have to develop intrigue and suspicion and suspense and all the wonderful things that are LOST.That is the reason we all tune in each week.Its all a plot by the writers to keep us hooked.Sure, I have thought a couple of the episodes were boring but i understand that those episodes helped develop character backgrounds and backstories.Sorry this is so long.

I really miss Desmond... Now THAT man was sexy.

(I'm a man, and not even gay myself.)

I really hate posting in this topic (all I'm doing is making it live longer...) but it was at the top anyway so I thought I'd go ahead.



And it showed AL to be the liar and bully that she was when we first met her! It showed us that she lied about who killed Goodwin ... not just to Jin, Sawyer and Michael but to her own group! Why? To keep them in fear so they'll follow her. I really, really, REALLY don't trust this gal.



She may not have lied to them... she could have told them what happened off camera. And she never lied to Jin, Sawyer, and Michael about who killed Goodwin.

Here are her exact words to Libby about Goodwin while in the presence of those 3:
"Rest? Here? Do you remember what happened to us? What they did to us? You remember Goodwin?" (snagged from the transcripts at Lost-tv).

Just thought I'd clear this up! :biggrin:

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Ever since I saw the tail section come off the plane I wondered "Did they make it?" Seeing how horrible they had it on thier side of the island made the Fusies side look like a beach party.

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Ever since I saw the tail section come off the plane I wondered "Did they make it?" Seeing how horrible they had it on thier side of the island made the Fusies side look like a beach party.

I know, I said the same thing earlier...they didn't have any luggage to go through, no change of clothes, no medicines, food, etc. They didn't have a medical doctor. They didn't have any weapons until they made their own...except for the pocket knife. It must have been so scary for them.

But the one thing I can say is this, they only had to put up with the others (although very scary)...they didn't have polar bears, wild boars or whatever the heck pulled Locke into the hole, and also the monster that sucked up the pilot. So in their own ways, the both sets had two different sets of problems with one relative problem - they are LOST!.

I absolutely love this! It is amazing how so many people have so many different opionions of the same T.V. show! This was, in My opin. one of the best. Gave us a taste of what the Tailies went through, killed off another major (though whiny ) charactor, made most of us hate Ana, love Eko, shudder at glimpses of the *others*,..........this is the only show on T.V. i watch every week. I am so hooked,I could knit an afghan that covered the whole world!:24:

I am so hooked,I could knit an afghan that covered the whole world!:24:

:24: - Echo, if you do pursue that - could my section be purple. That is my favorite color? :biggrin:

The Tailies are pretty much in the know about Goodwin. When Bernard had his brief radio conversation with Boone Ana cut it off. She explained it by saying the Others know about the flight number because Goodwin knew about the flight number. Ergo, they know that Goodwin was an Other and can deduce what became of him.

:24: - Echo, if you do pursue that - could my section be purple. That is my favorite color? :biggrin:

Yes! it could be purple! " if I could really knit... which i can't* " ****, I can't even sew a button on!" "But if I could!!!!!!!! purple it would be!":biggrin:

Yes! it could be purple! " if I could really knit... which i can't* " ****, I can't even sew a button on!" "But if I could!!!!!!!! purple it would be!":biggrin:

Thanks Echo!! You are too funny :biggrin: Happy Thanksgiving!

Thanks Echo!! You are too funny :biggrin: Happy Thanksgiving!

Thank you! and right back atcha! Oh, my gosh, deep fried turkey, green beans, hashbrown casserole, I am just now baking *smmeeeeellllll that?*, homemade yeast rolls, (so I don't have to get up to early, takin' care of the bread tonight!) , my dad's sweet potato casserole, my sister's coffee punch, I am getting hungry!!!!:biggrin:
Whats on yalls menu?

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!!!!!:biggrin: :turkey: :pumpking:

Thank you! and right back atcha! Oh, my gosh, deep fried turkey, green beans, hashbrown casserole, I am just now baking *smmeeeeellllll that?*, homemade yeast rolls, (so I don't have to get up to early, takin' care of the bread tonight!) , my dad's sweet potato casserole, my sister's coffee punch, I am getting hungry!!!!:biggrin:
Whats on yalls menu?

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!!!!!:biggrin: :turkey: :pumpking:

So full it hurts Echo. We had salad, stuffed mushrooms, turkey & gravy, string beans almondine, carrots, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, cranberries and for dessert - pumpkin cheesecake. Hurting now. Did you have a nice day?

:biggrin: :biggrin: So full it hurts Echo. We had salad, stuffed mushrooms, turkey & gravy, string beans almondine, carrots, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, cranberries and for dessert - pumpkin cheesecake. Hurting now. Did you have a nice day?

Afreakin' awesome day! *echo burps politely into fist* I too am so full, I just, ......want to eat more! " carrots? we didn't have carrots!" "I love carrots!" *echo's eyes narrow as she contemplates contents of fridge* "yes! there is a bag of green giant baby carrots, and a bottle of ranch dressing!" *crunching sounds* "gotta love the holidays!":w00t:
Will work out tomorrow, scrunches, lifts, ........ *yeah, right!* :biggrin:

This episode sucked! We got NOTHING!!!! NO ANSWERS what so ever. The only moment I liked was the 5 seconds that lasted with Bernard hearing Boone n the radio. There was no monster. There was no hatch mystery. They're were like, "Oh look a door. Neat. Oh a glass eye that must not be anything. Oh some people took the kids, what should we do. Oh, a radio. Oh some weird sign on the wall, who cares. Dum de dum. Then they wasted a good 5-6 minutes on reviewing last week. H-E-L-L-O...we already saw Jin run from them, we already saw Sawyer being carried, we already saw all of them walking through the friggen jungle. Then Ana shoots Shannon and Michael is like, "huh, what was that noise." This epi was a waste of my time and excitement. I am so disappointed. I thought Invasion was better than tonight's LOST and that is saying A WHOLE LOT!

wow, were you watching the same episode as I was??? this was the best episode yet, no doubt!!!!!

Now we have reasons why they were so distrustful of 'our survivors/buddies' and they have normal human problems under the very difficult circumstances.
I thought the episode was wonderful! I agree with toledojim about now we know why A.L. was such a bee-atch to Jin, Sawyer and Michael. I couldn't understand why she was so suspicious of them even after they told her they were on Oceanic flight 815. At least now I know why she was so paranoid and why the other talies looked so beaten up and worse for wear.

Yeah, the poor people didn't have the luxury of fallen luggage on their side of the island. They had to wear the same clothes.... :sick:

Hater. This site is for JJ fans.

Go watch crap like DH. That seems suited for you low level of intelligence. Or Idol, Alias, Prison Break, or Invasion.

JJ's projects are meant for those of us more advanced on the evolutionary tree.

Hey genius, in case you didn't notice, but Alias is a JJ production.:cool: Maybe you should look into your info before you imbarass yourself infront of hundreds of people. You're right down with those people with a "low level of intelligence.":cool:

This is going to seem petty and I'm probably going to kick myself for this later, but...

imbarass?

I guess it's "do as I say, not as I do", eh? ;)