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penyours
11-18-2005, 05:27 AM
So the writers were being a little tricky this time around with the whispers. They start off the same as the Shannon/Sayid whispers from last episode, but then they suddenly change and are totally different! Here's an inital transcript from the stereo files, when we analyse the surround sound files, the transript shound be more definite.

Relax dude (3 sec)
She like this (3.2 sec)
Sha (4 sec this word isn’t finished and cuts off the above line)


Sounds like ‘Oh I’ll tell ya’ (6 sec)
What just happened (8 sec)
Sounds like ‘would some one’ (9 sec)
Sounds like ‘draw it in house’ (10 sec)
Lucia (11 sec several voices)
Hurry 'simila' (13 sec, perhaps a name?)
Lucia (14 sec several voices, like a choir singing and just before the gunshot)

I'll post the mp3 pf the whispers tomorrow afternoon.

liz_lost_fan
11-18-2005, 05:46 AM
huh?!

nonyabizwaz
11-18-2005, 06:46 AM
Thanks for posting what the whispers said. But how are they different?

fak
11-18-2005, 07:27 AM
Personally I think that whenever the "whispers" are heard, each individual hearing them hears something different (Sawyer's are related to his killing an innocent man, for example). If the whispers from supposedly the same time and place are different in Abandoned and The Other 48 Days, maybe we are supposed to be "hearing" them as different people, i.e Ana Lucia might hear something different to Libby, who would hear something different to Shannon.

Jeff_L
11-18-2005, 08:11 AM
If you play the whispers backward, you can hear what they are saying.

MissJenniPenni
11-18-2005, 08:19 AM
The whispers in this episode were definately saying "lucia" or "ana lucia" . It was quite clear. This was at the same time Shannon & sayid are hearing "dyig sucks" etc.

It seems that the whispers are personal

penyours
11-18-2005, 06:27 PM
Here's the audio for the whispers. Take note, this is a really quick job on the stereo track and that you'll have to listen very carefully to make out the whispers. I'm waiting for the surround sound files before cleaning things up and posting a more definitive transcript. If anyone has surround sound files on hand send them my way.

http://tinyurl.com/8yu7b


Our audio files and transcript for the Abandoned ep are now up are lostlinks:

http://www.lostlinks.net/whispers.htm

and the Black Rock

http://www.lost.quantym.net/Sections-article65-p1.phtml

penyours
11-18-2005, 06:28 PM
Thanks for posting what the whispers said. But how are they different?
The first set of whispers, starting with relax dude is the same as the abandoned whispers
The second group of whipsers starting with 'oh I'll tell ya' is different.

Deadshot
11-18-2005, 06:30 PM
On the podcast from Lostcasts.com they played the whispers from last weeks show (2x06) and you can clearly hear them say "dying sucks" and "hey sis".In 2x07 the whispers sounded completely different.:undecide:

penyours
11-18-2005, 06:33 PM
It's because the whispers occur at a different time. In abandoned, they start when Sayid and shannon are hugging and stop when she says, 'do you see him'. When Shannon runs towards walt, there are no whispers. In 48 days, there are whipsers when Shannon's running and they stop when AL shoots Shannon.

Deadshot
11-18-2005, 06:39 PM
Ah okay.Interesting point what someone bought up in the thread earlier about the different characters hearing something different.Like the whispers are their thoughts or worst fears manifest in voice form.

BioGal
11-18-2005, 06:40 PM
Wow... I didn't know they could be heard that clearly!

getmeouttahere
11-18-2005, 06:55 PM
In the Whispers thread on the Abandoned forum, there was mention of some possible French in the whispers. Are there French whispers in this episode? If so, would that mean that Danielle is nearby and we're hearing her memories? Or Danielle's group is the others?

gummibear
11-18-2005, 08:22 PM
Did anyone here hear the whispers (Or something) when they came the second time and took the 9 people?

penyours
11-18-2005, 09:09 PM
Ah okay.Interesting point what someone bought up in the thread earlier about the different characters hearing something different.Like the whispers are their thoughts or worst fears manifest in voice form.

yeah, I'm not sure there is one explantion for all of the whispers, because there seems to be three distinct types of whispers.

The loudest ones are things we have heard people say, like 'it'll come back around', or 'dying sucks'. These seem to the whispers that people have attributed to voices of the dead/echoes of things said on the island/memories of the person hearing the whispers.

The second set of whispers seem to be people who are observing the losties and talking about them. 'she likes the guy', 'she's coming', 'hide the scope'

The last set are buried deep in the audio are things that don't make complete sense right now (but may in future episodes) or are clues like walt saying 'he knows I can't run, but I can yell', desmond saying 'it's the brothers that help us' and 'I'm in someone's dream'.

nonyabizwaz
11-18-2005, 10:05 PM
The last set are buried deep in the audio are things that don't make complete sense right now (but may in future episodes) or are clues like walt saying 'he knows I can't run, but I can yell', desmond saying 'it's the brothers that help us' and 'I'm in someone's dream'.


OMW. Did the whispers say those things?? When did Walt say that?

Sam G
11-18-2005, 10:17 PM
One of the 3 people taken the first night was German.
They took the blonde guy, the curly haired guy and the German that was helping with the injured.

shootfire
11-18-2005, 10:29 PM
I think it would make perfect sense for some of the whispers to be French regardless of whether Danielle is around or not. Shannon speaks French, and they could be her memories of the year she spent in France.

penyours
11-18-2005, 10:39 PM
One of the 3 people taken the first night was German.
They took the blonde guy, the curly haired guy and the German that was helping with the injured.
yeah, after theZealot pointed out the german in in the abandoned whipsers, I really perked up during 48 days when they said there was a German on the island. Maybe it's coincidence, but just maybe it was planned this way.....

penyours
11-18-2005, 10:42 PM
OMW. Did the whispers say those things?? When did Walt say that?

It's all in the abandoned whispers, check the links on pg 1 of the thread, or the whispers thread from abandoned.

Amber
11-19-2005, 11:25 PM
The whispers in this episode were definately saying "lucia" or "ana lucia" . It was quite clear. This was at the same time Shannon & sayid are hearing "dyig sucks" etc.

It seems that the whispers are personal

I thought you were joking when you said 'dying sucks' hehehehee

rvturnage
11-23-2005, 10:43 AM
Here's a first draft of the whispers from the surround sound files...PenYours now has a copy of the raw surround sound files as well and is working on her transcription from them. We're usually pretty close in our transcriptions. We'll clean them up some before calling them "final", but I thought everyone would like a look before tonights episode!

Lost, Season 2, Episode 7
"The Other 48 Days"
Whispers


Center:
1. Relax Dude, i think she likes the guy (5 sec)
2. You're life (bleed from left channel, 9 sec)
3. loving...laughing (? 10 sec, chorus of voices in the background)
4. {laughter} (11 sec)
5. You're gonna kill her (very faint, 14 sec)

Left:
1. Shannon (5 sec)
2. She likes the guy, she likes the guy (5 sec)
3. Shannon (7 sec)
4. Your life and and time is up (8 sec)
5. Help me (screaming in the background 11 sec)
6. Shannon, meet me on the other side (11 sec)
7 . Hi sis (15 sec )
{Gun shot}

Right:
1. Relax dude, she likes the guy, she likes the guy (5 sec)
2. Shannon (in the background, 6 sec)
3. I know it all I know it all...(in the background, 8 sec)
4. Shannon (9)
5. I don't think you should tell her when she comes (8 sec)
6. Obviously she likes you (11 sec)
7. who's the guy (11 sec)
8. ...next to Shannon (11 sec)
9. eye to eye (in the background, 13 sec)
10. Who's the guy? (13 sec)
11. {Laughter} (14 sec)
12. Are you done with it (14 sec)
13. Next to.. (15 sec)
{Gun Shot}

mp3's are posted here:
http://media.putfile.com/48-days-whispers---CENTER
http://media.putfile.com/48-days-whispers---LEFT
http://media.putfile.com/48-days-whispers---RIGHT

I've also pulled out a few choice phrases that needed additional tweaking to be better heard.

from the center:
http://media.putfile.com/48-days-whispers---your-gonna-kill-her

from the right:
http://media.putfile.com/48-days-whispers---dont-think-you-should-tell

from the left:
http://media.putfile.com/48-days-whispers---meet-me-on-the-other-side

Like PenYours said earlier, these are different than what was on "Abandoned." Those transcripts and audio files are posted on http://www.lostlinks.net/whispers.htm

and the discussion can be followed at http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=25491

rvt

EDITED to fix right channel #12

Slopster53
11-23-2005, 10:46 AM
Interesting discussion about the whispers, their timing, and Shannon's shooting here:

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=26489

ExistentialAngel
11-23-2005, 08:06 PM
Penyours, rvturnage: Thank you for transcribing these whispers. Don't think I posted in your last thread, but that's gotta be a lot of work. Even if I had the know-how and equipmt. to do this, I'd have to wait till the kids are asleep (and I don't think I could listen to those at night). I got chills reading these... "you're life and time is up" "meet me on the other side" Whew!

getmeouttahere
11-23-2005, 11:05 PM
Wow....some of these lines gave me chills. Left channel #6 sure sounds like Boone talking to Shannon from the afterlife. Right channel #5 gave me the impression that someone was telling Boone not to tell Shannon something when she "gets to the other side". Very freaky stuff. Fabulous work, as always.

penyours
11-24-2005, 06:46 AM
Here's my first transcript for the whispers. Here's the major differences. I picked up more dialogue in the center channel. In the left channel the last whisper before the gunshot sounds like 'her song', if you reverse the audio it sounds like 'Lucia', In the right channels from 8-13 sec there are a lot of voices there, I probably only transcribed a portion of them. The sped up voice at 14 secs is actually 'the brothers that helps us' when you slow it down

files are here: http://tinyurl.com/8yu7b


Center

1. Relax, dude (5 sec)
‘2. She likes him’ or ‘should I pick’ (5.5 sec)
3. She likes the guy (6 sec)

4. Your Life (9 sec)
5. Ich Weiss Nicht Sounds like the same Creepy gremlin voice from abandoned (10 sec)
6.Look out (11 sec)
7 Ana’s the trigger (12 sec)
8 You’re gonna kill her (14 sec)
9 Move on (15 sec)
10 Gun shot (16 sec)
11 See ya (16 sec like a chorus singing just after the gunshot)


Left
1 Shannon (5 sec this is similar to the MOSMOF whisper of Boone saying Shannon)
2 She likes the guy (5.5 sec)
3 Shannon (6 sec)
4 You’re life and time is up (9 sec very very creepy!)
5 Help me(10 sec)
6 Shannon meet me on the other side (11 sec)
7 Her song or Lucia reversed (15 sec I reversed the audio at this point so you can hear lucia)
8 Gun shot (16 sec)

Right channel

1 Relax, dude (5 sec)
2 She likes him or should I pick (5.5 sec)
3 She likes the guy (6 sec)
4 Shannon (6 sec)

5 I don’t think you should tell her when she comes(8 sec)
6 Dying sucks (8 sec)
7 I know it all (8 sec)
8 She dies now (9 sec)
9 Obviously she (9 sec)
10 Should I…(10 sec)
11 Who’s the guy (10 sec)
12 Her sorry (11sec overlaps should I)
13 Fire lucia (13 sec)
14 the brothers that help us(14 sec slowed down the audio hear to make it out)
15 Her song or Lucia reversed (15 sec I reversed the audio at this point so you can hear lucia)
16 Gun shot (16 sec)
17 Fire(16 sec)

rvturnage
11-24-2005, 10:05 AM
Here's my first transcript for the whispers. Here's the major differences. I picked up more dialogue in the center channel. In the left channel the last whisper before the gunshot sounds like 'her song', if you reverse the audio it sounds like 'Lucia', In the right channels from 8-13 sec there are a lot of voices there, I probably only transcribed a portion of them. The sped up voice at 14 secs is actually 'the brothers that helps us' when you slow it down

Wow...that's entirely too much work, speeding things up, reversing them...wow. I wonder, if the left channel vocie just before the gunshot IS "Her song" or "Lucia" in reverse, would that mean the "hi sis" from "abandoned is as well?

One reason I ask, is I'm starting to wonder if the "Dying Sucks" from abandoned might actually be "your life and time is up" like from this ep.

BuffyMars
11-24-2005, 10:06 AM
Wasn't there a "Why is he hugging her?" thing, too?

TabbyRasa
11-25-2005, 11:58 AM
Wow...does this mean that some of the whispers are backwards? Or did we already know that?

Carson7189
11-28-2005, 06:50 PM
Walt is obviously involved with the whsipers (wasn't it his voice that said "I'm in someone's dream"?) but the part that really creeps me out out is that he showed up and lead Shannon to her death. Maybe he was trying to unite the two groups of survivors and the shooting was simply an accident, but the whispers indicate otherwise. The whispers and walt set her up to die. They got Anna Lucia all high strung and then lead Shannon right to her, not to mention drowning out Shannon yelling out Walt's name (or else Michael would have noticed). It's like the whispers wanted her dead. I'm thoroughly spooked.

ladysv8
11-28-2005, 07:02 PM
thank you so much.... ive been wondering about these damm whispers... i do agree that the whispers lead shannon to her death.... they wanted her dead.... are we saying the whispers are the others???

rvturnage
11-28-2005, 09:33 PM
Walt is obviously involved with the whsipers (wasn't it his voice that said "I'm in someone's dream"?) but the part that really creeps me out out is that he showed up and lead Shannon to her death. Maybe he was trying to unite the two groups of survivors and the shooting was simply an accident, but the whispers indicate otherwise. The whispers and walt set her up to die. They got Anna Lucia all high strung and then lead Shannon right to her, not to mention drowning out Shannon yelling out Walt's name (or else Michael would have noticed). It's like the whispers wanted her dead. I'm thoroughly spooked.

I don't think that Walt is involved with them. I think he was trying to make sure that Shannon and Sayid would be quiet so they wouldn't get shot.

I'm not sure about the whispers being the others. I have thought that there were at least 2 sets of whisperers. One good/indefferent and one malicious. Possibly a third that was memories from the people that are hearing them. But I'm not sure anymore...anybody speak Farsi or Arabic? I'm working on the whispers Sayid heard, and would like some help...some don't appear to be english on first listens...could be french or german, I suppose... links to the audio can be found: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=25491&page=32

sickotriz
11-30-2005, 12:01 AM
penyours and rvturnage, I would also like to give props to you guys for all your hard work. This is one of the coolest things I've seen on the Fuselage in a while. I like what someone said about the whispers kind of being somewhat responsible for Shannons death, as they caused the Tail survivors to freak out and also sorta blotted out Shannon's yelling. Maybe they need more dead people to increase their power? However, the other whispers that have manifested didn't really lead to someone dying, so it's kind of an empty theory... but cool nonetheless.

Wonder if we'll ever hear Ethan in a whisper?
"If you don't... I'm going to KILL ONE OF THEM." That would be awesome.

penyours
12-02-2005, 02:04 AM
Okay here's the finalized whisper transcript from rvturnage and myself!

Lost, Season 2, Episode 7
"The Other 48 Days"
Whispers

Center:
1. Relax Dude, i think she likes the guy (5 sec)
2. You're life ( 9 sec)
3. Ich Weiss Nicht (German for "I don't know" 10 sec)
4. Look out (11 sec)
5. Ana’s the trigger (12 sec)
6. You're gonna kill her (very faint, 14 sec)
7. Move on (15 sec)
8. Gun shot (16 sec)
9. See ya (16 sec like a chorus singing just after the gunshot)


Left:
1. Shannon (5 sec)
2. She likes the guy, she likes the guy (5 sec)
3. Shannon (7 sec)
4. Your life and and time is up (8 sec)
5. Help me (11 sec)
6. Shannon, meet me on the other side (11 sec)
7. Her song ("Anna-Lucia" when reversed, 15 sec )
8. Gun shot (16 sec)

Right:
1. Relax dude, she likes the guy, she likes the guy (5 sec)
2. Shannon (in the background, 6 sec)
3. I know it all I know it all...(in the background, 8 sec)
4. Dying sucks (8 sec)
5. Shannon (9)
6. I don't think you should tell her when she comes (8 sec)
7. I'm sorry (10 sec)
8. Obviously she likes you (11 sec)
9. who's the guy (11 sec)
10. I want to see Shannon (11 sec)
11. eye to eye (in the background, 13 sec)
12. Who's the guy? (13 sec)
13 Fire lucia (13 sec)
14. the brothers that help us (14 sec slowed down the audio hear to
make it out)
15. are you done with it (14 sec)
16 Her song ("Anna-Lucia" when reversed, 15 sec)
17 Gun shot (16 sec)
18 Fire(16 sec)