Hey... I don't have access to the episode at the moment, but did the flashbacks say WHERE in New Mexico they were?* By the title of my topic, I'm implying that it MIGHT be Roswell.* Otherwise, why have it in New Mexico?* Well, there's lots of reasons why, but if we're looking for a reason why it's New Mexico, then why not?* If the toy plane is from the 1940's, and there is a heavy overtone of secret government testing in this show, then why not Roswell?* Could the plane be a clue from her dad about something he found out about Roswell, something that actually points to the island?*

Mindless speculation, and I apologize if anyone else has postulated on this same thing elswhere.

Thanks.

Dark Piranha

I was thinking more along the lines of Alamogordo, NM. Only becuase i have relatives there and we often visit Ruidoso, (which isnt that far away) so you can imagine how excited i was to hear that!* :lol2: But i really dont know where it was set, maybe it has to do with the air base that is there- next to White Sands? Becuase, her dad was in the air force or something like that- right?
* *Well, there's my two cents.* *:)

Ruidoso / Alto
The Lincoln National Forest and the spectacular spectacular Sierra Blanca Peak provide a beautiful mountain setting for this resort town full of shops and art galleries. In addition to powder skiing, golf, camping and fishing, the Ruidoso Downs hosts quarter horse racing each summer. Ruidoso is a place without pretentions and a unique village. A mountain town at 7,000 feet, it is located on U.S. Highway 70. The population numbers about 8,000, more on weekends in the winter when skiers come to town, and up to twenty-five or thirty thousand on summer weekends during horse racing season. Sierra Blanca, 12,003 feet (originally known as Baldy), towers above the surrounding country and is home to Ski Apache, owned by the nearby Mescalero Indians. The cool pines and summer showers bid welcome to lowland residents who come to escape the heat, many from Texas. Texas twang and Texas license plates abound on the streets of Ruidoso. The jet planes that are parked at the Sierra Blanca Airport, built in 1986 on the Fort Stanton Mesa, also have Texas as a home base. Ruidoso's oldest building is the Old Mill, originally known as Dowlin's Mill, as that was the name of the settlement. The mill is a famous landmark on Sudderth Drive dating from Civil War days. Other buildings along this six-mile main street are of varied and eclectic architecture, some painted in eye-catching lavenders, yellows, and turquoises or left in rustic wood exteriors. Another intriguing landmark is the upside down sign of the now defunct Wild Snail Restaurant. It is often used as a point of departure when giving tourists directions to another part of town. Though the restaurant has been gone since the early 1970s, the fact that the sign is still there and in its upside down position attests to the unpretentiousness of the town. Adjacent to Ruidoso to the east, but a separate community, is Ruidoso Downs. Next door to the Downs is a place called Hollywood. During the Depression of the 1930s, lots for cabins were sold for as little as $59.50. Hollywood has since been swallowed by Ruidoso Downs although it still has a thriving post office. The race track is located in the Downs as is the Museum of the Horse. Nearing completion is a visitors' center for Billy the Kid Country. Nearby points of interest include the Inn of the Mountain Gods and the Mescalero Indian Reservation, the historic town of Lincoln, Capitan, home of Smokey the Bear; the Merchant Marine and Military Cemetery at Ft. Stanton, Spencer Theater, White Sands National Monument, Alamogordo Space Center military base; and Sunspot, home of the largest observatory in the world.

Carlsbad

Carlsbad Spring still flows today in the northern corner of the city, near the Pecos Flume, one of the most impressive structures in Carlsbad. The concrete aqueduct is Carlsbad's own "Believe It Or Not" entry -- the river that crosses itself. Originally built of wood, the flume was rebuilt with concrete following the 1902 flood, and at the time of construction, was the largest concrete structure in the world. It is still in use, carrying Pecos River water from Lake Avalon across the river.

Roswell

See??? Not so crazy after all!

Kate told the bank manager that she was writing a coffee table book about old theaters in small towns. I did some research in another thread about this and posted the town the oldest theater was in.

Kate told the bank manager that she was writing a coffee table book about old theaters in small towns. I did some research in another thread about this and posted the town the oldest theater was in.


Actually, she said she was doing photography for such a book.

Link to your other thread?

what immediately struck me about this episode was the music. all of a sudden i noticed it and it reminded me of the famous scores of bernard herrmann. herrmann being the man behind all those famous alfred hitchcock movie scores, movies like psycho. and sure enough kate's flashback of the robbery was in the american southwest. marion crane, like kate, can't help but charm men and marion crane like kate steal money and both make unsuccessful runs to freedom.

i know the flashback is in new mexico and psycho takes place in arizona, but i can't help but believe that kate is a nod to hitchcock, a clever and informed allusion to yet another film (finding nemo being another one) where the parent child relationship looms large. jack's enabling relationship with his dad. danielle and the missing alex. michael and walt. claire and her unborn child. sawyer and his tales of woe. kate and her mystery dad. and of course the ultimate "father", god. the very first scene was kate in a tree picking fruit. the scene could have been quite nice, a much needed respite from stress and death, but with those unnerving strings the viewer knows something is wrong. this is no stay in eden.

note to 'Kate' stay out of the shower ;)

lol

cute cupons :lol2:

They could have set the bank robbery ANYwhere in the country, yet they chose to have it take place right around the corner from Roswell. The fact that they made it a point to give you just enough information to figure out where they were without actually SAYing Roswell further cements my claim.

Laugh at me if you will.... call me a madman... but I'll have the LAST laugh!!! HAHAHAHAHAhaaa... (cough... cough.. hack...) ehem.

I will have the last laugh.

Good day.

Actually, she said she was doing photography for such a book.

Link to your other thread?




here it is

http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=2750.0

Okay.. how about THIS?

Knowing how JJ Abrams likes to take real objects, people, events (Rambaldi, anyone) and use them for his own fiendish purposes, I present to you THIS article...

Scroll down to the third paragraph and THEN come back here and tell me I'm out of my mind. I dare you!

http://www.airlinehistorymuseum.com/dc-3.htm

And this: This is excerpted from a web page which I will link to below.

Captain E.J. Smith

On July 4th 1947, United Airlines Captain E.J. Smith observed objects very similar to those seen by Arnold whilst flying over Emmett, Idaho. Smith and his first officer, Ralph Stevens were flying a DC-3 airliner from Salt Lake City to Seattle when they saw five disk-shaped objects in the sky ahead of them. The sighting was confirmed by their stewardess, Martine Morrow


from
http://www.thewhyfiles.co.uk/pilotsightings.htm

Okay.. how about THIS?

Knowing how JJ Abrams likes to take real objects, people, events (Rambaldi, anyone) and use them for his own fiendish purposes, I present to you THIS article...

Scroll down to the third paragraph and THEN come back here and tell me I'm out of my mind.* I dare you!

http://www.airlinehistorymuseum.com/dc-3.htm



AWESOME!!! and some guy on another thread who claimed to be an air force brat said it was a different type of plane all together
I am convince Piranha, you are on to something!!!
But I am not sure what ??? But its something

Anybody remember what type of plane it was they were flying in? I thought 777 something or other. I wonder if it has any connection with the DC3

It could be a "National Treasure" sort of thing where this plane was passed down from parent to child, in the hopes of uncovering the whole Area 51 mystery. *Since Kate has been revealed to have tracking skills, it isn't too far fetched to think that her dad (an army man) has dragged her along on his UFO hunting trips, and against her desires she happened to pick up some tracking skills.

The toy plane, (I believe) is the link between the survivors and the island. *Someone on the plane (storytelling dictates) has to have some sort of connection to the island even they don't know about. *Some of these backstories (if not all of them) have to have their resolution or revelation occur on the island itself. *Since Kate's 'quest' obviously hasn't been fulfilled yet, we aren't going to see it completed in a flashback, no matter how many we have of hers. *Therefore, if her plot thread is to be completed, it will have to be on the island. *Therefore, the toy plane's importance will have to be manifested on the island. *And since we have some sort of underground bunker, and references to a comic book that contained a plot about a spaceship buried underground, I will bet dollars to donuts (wooooh... donuts!) that the toy plane has a direct link to the underground facility.

So there!

Hey, I used to live in Alamogordo! Although the bank manager did mention Ruidoso by name, the idea of a connection to Holomon AFB, and the White Sands Missile Range is plausible. Anything goes on this show!

note to 'Kate' stay out of the shower ;)Looking back now, that's a very funny line.

I just noticed this tonight, and dropped it off on Sam G's Juice thread, then find you guys talking about it too.

During the bank robbery, Kate tells the bank manager Mark Hutton that she is a photographer working on a book on old theaters in small towns. He tells her, " Oh, there's a fantastic one down in Ruidoso. You can't miss it... it's right off the main road

This sounds like she's not in Ruidoso, but a town nearby, which certainly could be Roswell.