Do you think after her revengeful shooting of Jason that they took her badge away for good? Now remember, she said to her mother/captain that it wasn't him who shot her, basically she was going to be the Charles Bronson (Death Wish) of the duo. Now what I think happened is that she obviously will come up with some story (in her backstory) that said that while she was off-duty, this Jason guy approached her and she realized it was him, blah, blah, blah. And she will say she shot him in self-defense. Now knowing that cops generally aim to injure (to stop them from running, defending themselves etc). She blatantly emptied her gun on the guy. So I think that this won't jive with the precinct and that instead of arresting her, (also helps her mother is the captain) that they took away her badge for good.

This was all taken from my opinion of the statement she made to Sayid - "I'm a cop, I was a cop". What is your take?

I got the impression that she did an execution type killing. Once she got closer to him, I think she put the last bullets right into his head, guaranteeing that he would not live.

I have a feeling that they were never able to prove (despite their suspicion) that she killed him. I also have a feeling that she resigned from the police force, perhaps with pressure.

What I'm wondering is what was she doing in Australia and who was she talking to on the cell during the hit on Jack scene at the airport bar?

This was all taken from my opinion of the statement she made to Sayid - "I'm a cop, I was a cop". What is your take?

My take was totally different. I assume she quit the force just before she went out to seek revenge on Jason, killed him, and is now on the run herself. A "good cop" wouldn't kill someone while on the force, especially when her mother is the captain. The captain would be forced to take the heat if one of her officers murdered someone. If AL is not on the force, it would potentially take the heat off her mother.

Well so far Ana Lucia is guilty of--under American law--:
Murder1 and manslaughter.

Manslaughter meaning Shannon and/or the two others?

And b!tchery.

Maybe she was talking to Danny on the cell phone? Her ex?

Well so far Ana Lucia is guilty of--under American law--:
Murder1 and manslaughter.

Hey, if the world worked more like that, we'd all be better off. She did the world a favor. Yes, she destoryed herself emotionally in the process, but still....she did what she felt needed to be done. That's her right as a human....man as a society made rules to keep peace, but in the prpcess made rules to keep people from being able to protect themselves/take revenge when needed. What she did was wrong, but totally understandable.

To me though, her killing the man was letting him off easy in a way. Cause if she had him convicted he would have suffered in prison and had to think about what he did to her and her unborn child (well he at the time didn't know it until she shot him). But again, she saw it fit to do. I would rather him suffer in jail. And CO's in jail don't take kindly to cop-killers (well attempted killers)

so i took this with no deep roots. She was a cop, but since they are now stuck on a not-so-empty island, so is not a cop anymore. Could be interesting to see if there is some deeper meaning

so i took this with no deep roots. She was a cop, but since they are now stuck on a not-so-empty island, so is not a cop anymore. Could be interesting to see if there is some deeper meaning

I took it the same way you did....

so i took this with no deep roots. She was a cop, but since they are now stuck on a not-so-empty island, so is not a cop anymore. Could be interesting to see if there is some deeper meaning

I REALLY wanna know what she's been up to since! What she now does for a living, who she was on the phone with at the airport, why she was in Sydney. What sucks though is that we probably won't even get another AL flashback this season. And even if we were so lucky, it wouldn't happen till like May or something. Obviously the producers have enough support/belief in Michelle and the Ana character to cause enough buzz to get the show through two weeks of the most important ratings time of the season. That to me says a lot.

so i took this with no deep roots. She was a cop, but since they are now stuck on a not-so-empty island, so is not a cop anymore. Could be interesting to see if there is some deeper meaning

I also think this is what she could have meant- either could make sense the way she said it.

I don't see where anyone thinks of her as a "good cop". Or that she once was one.... All she portrays is a latina version of Michael to me.

Do you think after her revengeful shooting of Jason that they took her badge away for good? Now remember, she said to her mother/captain that it wasn't him who shot her, basically she was going to be the Charles Bronson (Death Wish) of the duo. Now what I think happened is that she obviously will come up with some story (in her backstory) that said that while she was off-duty, this Jason guy approached her and she realized it was him, blah, blah, blah. And she will say she shot him in self-defense. Now knowing that cops generally aim to injure (to stop them from running, defending themselves etc). She blatantly emptied her gun on the guy. So I think that this won't jive with the precinct and that instead of arresting her, (also helps her mother is the captain) that they took away her badge for good.

This was all taken from my opinion of the statement she made to Sayid - "I'm a cop, I was a cop". What is your take?

Well according to AL she said they never found him so they might not even realize he's dead.

as soon as sayid asked if she had children, and her response/look on her face, i just new she had been pregnant. it explains a lot, but i don't think anyone is ready to fully forgive her for being really good at getting innocent people hurt.

As far as the police finding the guy, if they did, the police aren't going to persue the murder of a known criminal and suspect in the attempted murder of a cop that hard. I doubt Ana is a cop anymore though, she obvioiusly feels guilty with her vigilante actions, hence the dead inside comment. That, coupled with losing her baby.

My opinion is "Who cares", I have zero interest in her developement as a character, the ONLY thing good she did was rid us of that WHINEY Shannon, and to that I say "Huzzah"!!

I liked Shannon. :(

She was evil in her own way but not a psycho gun-wielding idiot.

I liked Shannon. :(

She was evil in her own way but not a psycho gun-wielding idiot.Oh no, she was evil in a lying, manipulating, spoiled rich *itch way.

I got the impression that she did an execution type killing. Once she got closer to him, I think she put the last bullets right into his head, guaranteeing that he would not live.

I have a feeling that they were never able to prove (despite their suspicion) that she killed him. I also have a feeling that she resigned from the police force, perhaps with pressure.


I think she was smart enough not to use her police issue gun for the killing. She knows a ballistics test of the bullets would point straight to her. I think, as her partner seemed
to be thinking, that she cant be trusted. And a cop doesn't want a partner who's unstable.
In the end, she probably resigned to spare her mother the pressure.

My take was totally different. I assume she quit the force just before she went out to seek revenge on Jason, killed him, and is now on the run herself. A "good cop" wouldn't kill someone while on the force, especially when her mother is the captain. The captain would be forced to take the heat if one of her officers murdered someone. If AL is not on the force, it would potentially take the heat off her mother.



Hmmm, interesting

I think she totally got away with the execution. The only reason she corrected herself to "I was a cop" was in recognition that she is no longer in L.A. but on Craphole Island.

If she was on the run, why would she be on a flight to Los Angeles? ;)

I'm guessing she got away with the murder, but some people (including her mother) probably believe she did it, but can't/won't prove it. Thus, people think she's a murderer and crazy, so she feels all alone and "dead". Probably went to Australia for a while to let things cool down a bit...

Hey, if the world worked more like that, we'd all be better off. She did the world a favor. Yes, she destoryed herself emotionally in the process, but still....she did what she felt needed to be done. That's her right as a human....man as a society made rules to keep peace, but in the process made rules to keep people from being able to protect themselves/take revenge when needed. What she did was wrong, but totally understandable.

I didn't find it understandable at all. I know it's terrible that she lost her child but that's the risk you take when you become a police officer. Maybe that sounds harsh but it's true. She took the law into her own hands. It's not her right to take revenge on someone. If everyone decided we had the right to murder someone because they did something wrong to you first, then we'd live in a much more violent place than we already do. I haven't seen one example of her acting as a good police officer should. If she only became one because of her mother then she should've saved the city a lot of trouble training her. The rules don't keep people from being able to protect themselves but they DO have them against taking your own revenge and it's for a good reason.

It's hard to know if she quit the force before leaving L.A. or if she's merely acknowledging that with this much time already passed, they're probably stuck there for the rest of their lives and so that life is behind her now.

I agree that revenge is wrong, but for dramatic purposes, it works for the story. Ok, she's a bit trigger-happy (to put it mildly) but now the lostaways have someone who can shoot straight in case they need to defend themselves.

I'm glad that Mike didn't bring the stuff she asked for back but instead came back with Eko and Jack. Maybe Ana will find healing being with the larger group that has successfully worked out a cooperative lifestyle. Maybe not- and that will create dramatic tension every show needs.

Ana Lucia SUCKS.

Hmm, Ana Lucia is/was a cop and Kate is a fugitive. Will Ana recognize Kate? Is Kate the reason why Danny is no longer is Ana's life? Was Ana in Australia looking for Kate? We already know Kate can kick much booty. I would LOVE to see some Fight Club action between Kate and Ana Lucia.

Also did anyone notice how buffed Kate's arms looked last night? I smell a cat fight coming.

Hmm, Ana Lucia is/was a cop and Kate is a fugitive. Will Ana recognize Kate? Is Kate the reason why Danny is no longer is Ana's life? Was Ana in Australia looking for Kate? We already know Kate can kick much booty. I would LOVE to see some Fight Club action between Kate and Ana Lucia.

Also did anyone notice how buffed Kate's arms looked last night? I smell a cat fight coming.
Plus the distance she was driving the golf ball....

AL also said that "they never found him". I took that to mean she ditched the body, maybe dumped it in the ocean. My guess is that once she had her revenge she quit the force, and went to Australia to get away from everything for a while and clear her head.

Ana Lucia SUCKS.

That isn't contributing anything to the discussion at hand in any way.

I REALLY wanna know what she's been up to since! . . . . What sucks though is that we probably won't even get another AL flashback this season. And even if we were so lucky, it wouldn't happen till like May or something.

You're not very good at waiting, are you? I think it is good for the show and good for character development to jump around from story to story, keeping us interested in everyone. If we just go off for two months on AL, is that good for the rest of the cast?

I didn't find it understandable at all. I know it's terrible that she lost her child but that's the risk you take when you become a police officer. . . . She took the law into her own hands. It's not her right to take revenge on someone. . . ..The rules don't keep people from being able to protect themselves but they DO have them against taking your own revenge and it's for a good reason.

I'm not sure you're right. I'm not a lawyer or anything, but is what she did really illegal in the US? I mean the guy did kill her unborn baby.

Self defense is legal, revenge killing (i.e. cold blood) is not.

I'm not sure you're right. I'm not a lawyer or anything, but is what she did really illegal in the US? I mean the guy did kill her unborn baby.

What she did by killing Jason is illegal in the US. We do not have an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth law. If Ana had actually confirmed that Jason was the man that shot her, he would have faced a trial with a jury of his peers, whom would decide his fate. I do find it hard to believe that with all the other evidence against Jason (his confession and fingerprints) that they would have dropped the case. The District Attorney would still have moved forward with that case.

here's a theory:

maybe she was in australia when she killed jason. he got set free and left the country. she followed him and shot him. the next day, she boarded a plane to LA. so technically...no one knows if she did kills him yet.

make sense?

Very interesting theory about shooting him in Austrailia, I like this theory the best of any so far. She said they never found him, (YET)! Works the best for the story line!

Aslo Kate did look like she had been buffing up!

here's a theory:

maybe she was in australia when she killed jason. he got set free and left the country. she followed him and shot him. the next day, she boarded a plane to LA. so technically...no one knows if she did kills him yet.

make sense?

Actually that makes a lot of sense. Great thinking.


My theory:

Killed him (in LA). Boarded a flight to Australia. She was going to hide out in Australia and live out the rest of her days there...(or maybe kill herself...[she is "already dead"]. She had second thoughts. Wanted to go back to LA and get justice for what she did.

She never really stopped being "a cop" until she got on the Island...but she may have stopped considering herself a cop when she killed Jason.

While I don't condone what Ana did, I can understand an irresistible impulse for revenge, especially in connection with the death of a child. What I cannot understand is putting everyone else at risk by letting a violent willing-to-kill criminal out on the street to kill/attempt to kill again.

Ballistics would have traced the gun right back to her after the shooting, especially since it looked like she used her service revolver. Both the psychiatrist who proclaimed her fit for duty and her captain/mother who put her back on the street when she obviously wasn't ready should be hauled on the carpet for her actions. She was psycho-bitch then and it hasn't improved any on the island. No matter what her backstory, I don't think she'll be readily accepted by the Fusies at this point. Even the Tailies aren't too happy with her at the moment.

here's a theory:

maybe she was in australia when she killed jason. he got set free and left the country. she followed him and shot him. the next day, she boarded a plane to LA. so technically...no one knows if she did kills him yet.

make sense?

Great theory. I have trouble understanding why she would be flying back to LA if she had only been hiding out there after killing him in the US. Again, I'm not a lawyer, but I think there is no limitations period on murder. So the Australia theory makes a lot of sense.

here's a theory:

maybe she was in australia when she killed jason. he got set free and left the country. she followed him and shot him. the next day, she boarded a plane to LA. so technically...no one knows if she did kills him yet.

make sense?

I'd be really surprised if she followed him to Australia, wacked him and then on the return home was hitting on Jack in the bar. Seems much more likely that she took care of him locally and then had other reasons to be down under.

It is difficult to obtain handguns down under. In LA she would have had her own gun.

didnt sawyer get a gun down under? maybe she got hers from the same guy that got sawyer his.

didnt sawyer get a gun down under? maybe she got hers from the same guy that got sawyer his. Mabye.

I think we are strectching here a bit on the similarities between her and Sawyer.

Maybe this will be the beginnings of law enforcement on the Island...they'll decide where/how to hold Ana in custody...unless she goes into self-imposed exile. As of Collision, Michael hasn't come back yet with the supplies she requested...

I haven't seen anyone mention Aaron in regards to Ana...now there's a time bomb waiting to happen if she goes to the Losties' camp...

Maybe this will be the beginnings of law enforcement on the Island...they'll decide where/how to hold Ana in custody...unless she goes into self-imposed exile. As of Collision, Michael hasn't come back yet with the supplies she requested...

I haven't seen anyone mention Aaron in regards to Ana...now there's a time bomb waiting to happen if she goes to the Losties' camp...

I think its obvious that Micheal never intended to give her the supplies. And now that she let Sayid go she has no leverage.

Did she say, "THEY didn't find him?" or did she say "I never found him?"

I seriously thought that her flashback was what she was saying she WANTED to do to the guy if she ever found him... kind of like her fantasy of what she wanted to see happen... and I thought he asked, "Did they ever find the guy?" as in "Was he ever caught?" and she said "No" as in the guy got away....

Seems like if she had emptied her gun in the guy she'd be less bitter about it because she would have gotten her revenge...

Just a thought...

I do agree about her saying she "was" a cop in the sense that she's on the Island now.

Did she say, "THEY didn't find him?" or did she say "I never found him?"

I seriously thought that her flashback was what she was saying she WANTED to do to the guy if she ever found him... kind of like her fantasy of what she wanted to see happen... and I thought he asked, "Did they ever find the guy?" as in "Was he ever caught?" and she said "No" as in the guy got away....

Seems like if she had emptied her gun in the guy she'd be less bitter about it because she would have gotten her revenge...

Just a thought...

I do agree about her saying she "was" a cop in the sense that she's on the Island now.
Sayid asks A-L what happened to the guy. "Nothing. They never found him." As for where Jason was shot. http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=805&pos=10 Although I don't think we see it, there is the American flag hanging on the wall. If it was Australia, probably not that flag.

I took it that A-L is not a police officer anymore. There is still hope that she has connections with the Marshal.

I'd also like to know what Jason's list of priors was. (A-L's mom mentioned them. Who might be involved with him.)

I'm not sure you're right. I'm not a lawyer or anything, but is what she did really illegal in the US? I mean the guy did kill her unborn baby.
Wow, this comment (almost) leaves me speechless. I'm not a lawyer either, but is what she did legal ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD? I mean c'mon, I doubt even in third world countries you can go out and legally blow someone away for something they did to you.

Pretty scary that this person thinks it might be though. :o

What she did by killing Jason is illegal in the US. We do not have an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth law. If Ana had actually confirmed that Jason was the man that shot her, he would have faced a trial with a jury of his peers, whom would decide his fate. I do find it hard to believe that with all the other evidence against Jason (his confession and fingerprints) that they would have dropped the case. The District Attorney would still have moved forward with that case.

Zada, I disagree with you that the DA would have moved forward. As a former NYC prosecutor, there is no way I would have proceeded. Yes, you have ballistic evidence, but you have the victim who absolutely denies that this is the guy. Not only is she a victim, but she is a police officer so her testimony carries more weight with a jury.

I had a case where the victim in a domestic violence was stabbed by her husband. I got her testimony on video tape for grand jury (she was still in the hospital). So, even when she decided to deny what her husband did, we had it on video and submitted that testimony (and convicted the guy, by-the-by). But, AL denies it from the get go, in front of witnesses. Plus, when you have a line up, the defense attorney is present, so he/she heard her say this. That would make for one happy defense attorney.

And, as to what AL's statement means any of the theories floated in this thread makes sense. I do think she hid the body, so no one knows he was dead. She may have voluntarily left the force or she may have been kicked off for other reasons (although, unless it was something really flagrant, that takes a long time).

Wow, this comment (almost) leaves me speechless. I'm not a lawyer either, but is what she did legal ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD? I mean c'mon, I doubt even in third world countries you can go out and legally blow someone away for something they did to you.

Pretty scary that this person thinks it might be though. :o

Sorry, I thought it was CLEARLY a joke.

Sorry, I thought it was CLEARLY a joke.
Nice try. There's nothing in your post that remotely indicates you were joking.

Maybe this will be the beginnings of law enforcement on the Island...they'll decide where/how to hold Ana in custody...unless she goes into self-imposed exile. As of Collision, Michael hasn't come back yet with the supplies she requested...

I haven't seen anyone mention Aaron in regards to Ana...now there's a time bomb waiting to happen if she goes to the Losties' camp...

Why would they need law enforcement? It was clearly an accident. There is also a precedent of no law enforcement.

So far Kate and Sawyer both know that they have killed someone. Jack knows/suspect that Kate killed someone. Everyone knows Charlie killed someone, but no-one has suggested that Kate, Sawyer or Charlie are incarcerated.

Locke also knows that Walt committed arson. You could also accuse Sawyer of grave-robbing, Charlie of taking illegal drugs and Sun of deception (in covering up her ability to speak English).

And b!tchery.

Don't forget she is guilty of BAD ACTING...

She may have voluntarily left the force or she may have been kicked off for other reasons (although, unless it was something really flagrant, that takes a long time).


So was this before or after the shootout with the LearJet on the bridge? :smile::biggrin::cool:

.......I have a feeling that they were never able to prove (despite their suspicion) that she killed him. I also have a feeling that she resigned from the police force, perhaps with pressure.

What I'm wondering is what was she doing in Australia and who was she talking to on the cell during the hit on Jack scene at the airport bar?


Ditto..

I didn't find it understandable at all. I know it's terrible that she lost her child but that's the risk you take when you become a police officer. Maybe that sounds harsh but it's true. She took the law into her own hands. It's not her right to take revenge on someone. If everyone decided we had the right to murder someone because they did something wrong to you first, then we'd live in a much more violent place than we already do.

I agree with that 100%.

I'm not sure I see the Losties setting up a formal judicial system. Even in our civilized society Sun commited no crime. She's not under obligation to tell people what languages she does/doesn't speak. Charlie's drug use and Walt's arson are MUCH smaller in the grand scheme of things than AL's trigger happiness.

I thought it was clear that when Ana says "They never found him", she was relating to Sayid the "official" story--that they never found the guy who did it, which relates directly to her telling everybody behind the mirror that the guy wasn't the one who did it. But in reality, she knows because, obviously, she kills the guy. But she's not going to tell THAT part of the story to Sayid.

Hopefully Jack can examine the wound and determine whether it could have been caused by Ana's gun. (yeah I am still hoping it was some other cause)
Give it up. Stop torturing yourself this way. :)

Seriously though, if the wound was caused by something else, where did Ana's bullet go?

I thought it was clear that when Ana says "They never found him", she was relating to Sayid the "official" story--that they never found the guy who did it, which relates directly to her telling everybody behind the mirror that the guy wasn't the one who did it. But in reality, she knows because, obviously, she kills the guy. But she's not going to tell THAT part of the story to Sayid.

I totally agree

Renault...LOL. Well since Ana is a pretty good shooter (we saw that at target practice), it's unlikely she missed. Her bullet may have gone into the wound that was already there though. I know...a long.....shot.

Nice try. There's nothing in your post that remotely indicates you were joking.

Except for the words!