I didn't see this posted anywhere here in the episode forum, so...

The arguing TV guy is the husband of the woman Christian killed in ATBCHDI.
Before you start flaming me, it is the same actor credited to both.
His name is Matt Moore and he is listed as Travis in Collision and Husband in ATBCHDI.

This was mentioned on the spoiler boards a while ago so I can't take credit for noticing it but I thought it was interesting given the part he played today.



From ABC Media:
Guest starring are Francois Chau as Dr. Marvin Candle, L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Sam Anderson as Bernard, Michael Cudlitz as Big Mike, Mark Gilbert as Detective Raggs, Rick Overton as Matthew Reed, Aaron Gold as Jason Elder, Matt Moore as Travis, Jeanna Garcia as Shawna and Rand Wilson as Assistant D.A.



For ITBCHDI
Guest starring are John Terry as Dr. Shephard, William Mapother as Ethan, Jackie Maraya as Andrea, Matt Moore as husband, Mark Stitham as head doctor and Michael Adamshick as anesthesiologist

What the hell is ATBCHDI??!

All The Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues.

All The Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues.

Of course! Makes sense...

Was 'Husband' the husband of the woman Sawyer scammed?

Wow, great find...!

I know the guy Christian killed, but who is arguing TV guy? Screencaps?

I know the guy Christian killed, but who is arguing TV guy? Screencaps?

Arguing TV guy is from the domestic disturbance call Ana-Lucia forced her partner into going to check out so she could prove she was ready for duty.

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=820&pos=149

Very cool, I like how they have been making connections like this. First with Hurley and Locke's manager and now this guy. Good excuse to be lazy and not find new talent because you're all the way out in Hawaii too =P

interesting, but also a bit odd in that although it is the same actor, they look TOTALLY different in the two episodes -- if you didn't see the same actor credited, it would be impossible to draw the conclusion that this is the same guy.

Of course we don't really have a time frame for when AL "drew down" on the TV guy, but he has rather long hair and looks pretty knarly, as compared to "husband", who is very clean cut. thus, we can only infer that these 2 incidents fall at very different times (presumably "husband" precedes "TV Guy"). Compare the two screen captres:

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=115&pos=718

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na... m=820&pos=149

whoops -- here is the second screen capture again (typo above):

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=820&pos=149

i can see the resemblance. Maybe after the death of his wife he turned to stealing TVs? :) No but seriously if you dress the guy in the suit differently and give him long hair then you got a match.

But why would that guy fall so far after his wife's death. Wouldn't he have won millions in the lawsuit he was threatning? (Jack ratting out his Dad would basically hand the guy the case). He could still be depressed and an emotional wreck, but he'd at least be living someplace nice.

good point, Monsoon_Season. One could infer that, while it was the same actor, it was two different characters being portrayed. There was really no evidence seen to connect the two events...

True, but there are no coincidences in Lost.

The scene from All the best cowboys... (better? - I'm a lazy typer) would have been just a few months before the crash.

Father's career ruined/doesn't talk to Jack for several months/hightails it to Australia/Dies/Jack's mother sends Jack to find him/both return to the states on ill fated plane.
So if it is the same guy I assume it was before then. Not necessarily, but I got the impression that Ana's flashback was well before the crash.

I also assume it was a connection not lazy casting. Similar to Harold P's wife being cast as the Lottery girl and Sawyer's date which is not a coincidence.
According to Damon Lindelof, she will be back soon and it was cast that way on purpose, she is the same character

True, but there are no coincidences in Lost.

The scene from All the best cowboys... (better? - I'm a lazy typer) would have been just a few months before the crash.

Father's career ruined/doesn't talk to Jack for several months/hightails it to Australia/Dies/Jack's mother sends Jack to find him/both return to the states on ill fated plane.
So if it is the same guy I assume it was before then. Not necessarily, but I got the impression that Ana's flashback was well before the crash.



Is it possible that that girl was the same girl that Christian screwed up?

i really just joking. i think they just used the same guy for two characters.

You might have something here. They don't look the same to me, but hair and clothes make a huge difference. I could see the incident with the cops showing up, being a turning point for them. They got it together, got pregnant again, and that's when Dr. Christian Shephard comes into the picture.

On one of the sites we played on this summer, a cap of his wife dead was one of the easter eggs. She had dark hair. Anyone got a cap from that site?

I know the guy Christian killed, but who is arguing TV guy? Screencaps?

Shoot...I don't know the guy Christian killed! Who was it? How? When? I swear I need some sort of Lost map/dictionary/encyclopedia to refer to while I watch!

Christian killed the pregnant wife of the guy that may or may not be the TV guy. This is the incident that caused Jack to rat on his father for drinking while operating a scalpel. Hope that helps.

Arguing TV guy is the father of the pregnant woman that Christian killed???

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=820&pos=149


Husband at the hospital with Christian, being told his wife was dead

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=115&pos=718

So he didn't kill the GUY. He killed the guy's wife?

Was 'Husband' the husband of the woman Sawyer scammed?

No that was a character played by Michael DeLuise.

I immediately assumed that if the guy is the same, then the woman is the same person too. There has to be that link there, something more than just the same guy being in the same scene for no apparent reason. The wife has to be the same, otherwise they'd have to show a backstory for the guy, explaining how/why he ended up with the other woman. Hey - maybe that's how they'll drag it out for 5 seasons - backstories for all! (Perhaps Popo and Buster met Vincent at a dog show once?!) :)

Seriously though, arguing woman and dead wife have a very similar face shape, and I can't find any reason to suggest that they're not the same person (I'm sure a simple check on imdb will prove me wrong, though!) Remember, she would have had all her makeup removed in the OR, and her eyes were taped shut. And it's plausible that she could have been pregnant with her second child when she died, given the timeframe (few months to a few years).

I don't think it was lazy casting either. By the second season, the creators must know that we anayse every single detail to death, so they wouldn't be so careless. Everything must mean something (except the lying previews!)

The woman in Collision's name is Shawna. Does anyone know if they say the pregnant woman's name or if we see it on the forms in All the best cowboys... ?

Also, just a sortof aside, it has to be the same actor in both roles. While Matt Moore is a fairly common name SAG rules require a unique name for credits. That doesn't mean he is playing the same character necessarily though.

Here is a screencap of the dead wife -- in the OR.
http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=115&pos=84

And here is the screencap of the arguing couple (again).
http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=820&pos=149

It's really hard to tell if it's the same woman or not, since they are two different angles.

I'm pretty sure they are just using the same actor, but maybe not. It made me think of when we saw Locke's boss "Randy" show up again at Hurley's boss in Everyone Hates Hugo, but then, he is credited as Randy both times.

According to imdb, Shawna in 'collision' was played by Jeanna Garcia. This is the only episode she is credited with on imdb, but she was dead in ATBCHDI - I don't know whether only speaking parts count(?).

For ATBCHDI, imdb lists a character called Andrea (right before Matt Moore, listed as 'husband'), so I don't know whether this was the dead woman or someone else. The actress is different though - Andrea was played by Jackie Maraya, also only credited for this single episode. So if Andrea was the wife, then I guess they're not the same person. (although she could have been one of the nurses or something - will heve to rewatch episode).

Maybe Matt Moore just loved his time on Lost so much that he sneaked back in, or somehow slipped through the casting net. Or maybe it's just a red herring.

True, but there are no coincidences in Lost.

The scene from All the best cowboys... (better? - I'm a lazy typer) would have been just a few months before the crash.

Father's career ruined/doesn't talk to Jack for several months/hightails it to Australia/Dies/Jack's mother sends Jack to find him/both return to the states on ill fated plane.
So if it is the same guy I assume it was before then. Not necessarily, but I got the impression that Ana's flashback was well before the crash.

I also assume it was a connection not lazy casting.

I agree about Ana's flashback being well before the crash. She needs to have time to shoot the guy who shot her, get kicked out of/leave the police force, go through enough counselling that her faith in men is restored (hence hitting on Jack in the airport) and get out to Australia. That said, we don't know how long Christian's fall took.

Maybe 'TV guy' & 'Husband' are twins!!!

why have you come to our planet?

The show's tag line is that "everything happens for a reason."

I think it's therefore safe to assume that the show's casting is also done "for a reason" and not just completely random.

If the actor for "TV guy" and "dead-woman's husband" is the same, he's most likely portraying the same character. Consequently, if the actor for Hurley's boss "Randy" and Locke's boss "Randy" is the same, he's most likely portraying the same character, too.

According to imdb, Shawna in 'collision' was played by Jeanna Garcia. This is the only episode she is credited with on imdb, but she was dead in ATBCHDI - I don't know whether only speaking parts count(?).

For ATBCHDI, imdb lists a character called Andrea (right before Matt Moore, listed as 'husband'), so I don't know whether this was the dead woman or someone else. The actress is different though - Andrea was played by Jackie Maraya, also only credited for this single episode. So if Andrea was the wife, then I guess they're not the same person. (although she could have been one of the nurses or something - will heve to rewatch episode).

Maybe Matt Moore just loved his time on Lost so much that he sneaked back in, or somehow slipped through the casting net. Or maybe it's just a red herring.

I think Andrea was the nurse that Jack spoke to after the operation, not the patient that died in the OR. Since the latter role had no speaking parts, the actress probably was not credited.

It all seems relatively simple to me.

If it is indeed the same actor, then it is indeed the same character.

This show does not mess around with casting. They refused every proposal to "re-cast" Walt. Recasting blows, and they know it. Casting is done very meticulously here.

Ana's flashbacks most likely took place at least a year before the crash. The flashbacks from ATBCHDI take place eight to six months before the crash. The latter is a fact. Therefore, if it is indeed the same actor, and thus the same character:

The couple got their act together, the guy got a job, the girl got pregnant, and then she died because of Christian.

Or, the guy got his act together, found someone else, and so on.

As for whether or not the actress who plays Shawna and the actress who played the wife in the OR are the same...

She probably would not have been credited. In an interview with ETCanada, Evangeline Lilly said that prior to "Lost" she played corpses a few times. She wasn't credited.

However, if they are indeed two seperate actresses (playing the same character), it would not prove to be a huge issue, as the woman in the OR's face is mostly obscured. (Just as a different actress, an extra, played Rose in the plane sequence in "Exodus," or rather, the back of Rose's head, since L. Scott Caldwell was not available at the time...)

why have you come to our planet?

Are you talking to me? All I was trying to do was put forth a reasonable explanation for why one person would play two completely different types of characters on the show. There is no need to be rude.

He/she was just poking fun.