I have a big beef with one of the reunions..

When Jin returned it was all the people greeting him with hugs and smiles, happy to see he was safe.That's fiine, but where were the looks of disappointment that the rafters didn't make it to help from the outside world (remember, that was the whole purpose of the raft voyage). Nor was there much look of concern on the redshirt faces about where were the rest of the rafters. It was a silent scene but couldn't at least a few of some of the redshirts be seen mouthing "oh darnit" or something?

Please feel free to add your own beefs (or kudos) with all the various reunions in the episode. Thanks!

i never even thought of that, well obviously sun and kate are going to be happy, the rest, i really dont know.

I liked the reunions and cried like a baby!!!!

i never even thought of that, well obviously sun and kate are going to be happy, the rest, i really dont know.

If I were a redshirt, I'd be like, "Oh cr--. We are going to stuck here forever! "

I think if you were reunited with someone who you didn't know if you'd ever see again, I think you'd probably just be happy that they were safe and just be happy to see them. Later, you can ask the questions about what happened out there.

Besides, there's no way to really show that disappointment. You can't really go, "Aw man, what are you doing here?" without coming off like a jerk.

I think if you were reunited with someone who you didn't know if you'd ever see again, I think you'd probably just be happy that they were safe and just be happy to see them. Later, you can ask the questions about what happened out there.

The redshirts are tired, hungry and want to go home. And they probably haven't had many getting-to-know-you conversations with Jin.. I still vote the redshirt reactions should have mixed in some utter disappointment and resignation when they saw Jin.

I think there is relief that our "rafters are safe!"

Another beef with the "Jin" reunion scene:

The redshirts have been on the Island almost fifty days with the same forty-odd number of people. They each could probably do a census in their own heads. So then why no quizzical looks at seeing these strangers, Bernard and Libby? Jin couldn't introduce them, and they themselves don't appear to explain who they are. For all the redshirts know, they could be Ethan's family.

Another beef with the "Jin" reunion scene:

The redshirts have been on the Island almost fifty days with the same forty-odd number of people. They each could probably do a census in their own heads. So then why no quizzical looks at seeing these strangers, Bernard and Libby? Jin couldn't introduce them, and they themselves don't appear to explain who they are. For all the redshirts know, they could be Ethan's family.
Maybe they figured the strangers were okay since Jin led them to camp. I think it would have completely ruined the moment if everyone had a "you wouldn't be Ethan's buddies, would ya?" kind of reaction instead of a "wow...you guys are survivors too!" reaction. :biggrin:

And why did Jin and Charlie share the biggest hug?? Hurley picking Jin up would have been great.

Plus..did any of them know about the bottle washing ashore? If not...they should have reacted a tad different like.."um...what are you doing here? Did you just raft off this rock or was I missing that day?"

And why did Jin and Charlie share the biggest hug?? Hurley picking Jin up would have been great.

Plus..did any of them know about the bottle washing ashore? If not...they should have reacted a tad different like.."um...what are you doing here? Did you just raft off this rock or was I missing that day?"

I don't think the bottle washing ashore was known beyond a few people.

How about giving just a "Where Walt? Where Mike and Sawyer?" Yeah, I know the language barrier and all that, but that hasn't stopped people before from trying, mostly in vain, to talk with Jin.

And Sun oblivious to all the ruckus. I guess the wind must have been blowing all the noise the other way. :rolleyes:

I thought it looked like two people just behind them, talking and discreetly pointing to Bernard and Rose, as if to say she has found her husband

I just want to start by saying I loved the Jin/Sun reunion. I've been waiting for that one. My one nitpick is this. Sun went down into the hatch with michael and was there when Eko and Jack left. Now after all that went down she decides to go and laundrey. What the heck? You would think she would still be down in the hatch asking what's going on. I took it as the writers strategically placing Sun on the beach for the reunion which is OK i guess. But I still think it doesn't make much sense.

She could have done her laundry in the hatch :-)

We don't really know how long of a time lapse there was from the time Michael got back to when Jin arrived.
Maybe Michael had been able to tell some of the story to people.
What really matters is from the moment Michael saw Vincent to the end of the show I was crying like a baby.:cry:

yeah kinda surprising that Sun wasnt a bit more anxious for his arrival.

Well...I think you kind of have to suspend disbelief a tad...in terms of everyone's reactions to the rafters. The writers wanted to purely show the emotional reuinions...really get people overjoyed at watching the rafters finally back with the people they love! :)

I'm sure that they'll later get into more questions about what happened to them...and who all the new people are...

Most people didn't even seem to wonder where Walt was either. As the one kid from their group, other than the baby, you'd figure people would notice he didn't return.:ohwell:

I loved how it began with a departure... Sayid holding Shannon's lifeless body... cut to Kate telling Sawyer that he was home (LOVED IT, but I won't over-analyze here... you're welcome)... cut to emo-musical montoge of Mike and Vincent, Rose and Bernard (seriously, I cried, I LOVE them, hope we get their backstory!!!), then Sun and Jin (to know that they were ganna call it quits before the crash and now its like their love is renewed, so sweet), and then strangely ending with Jack meeting back up with Ana... lots of reunions... beautifully long scene brimming with subtext

The reunion was good. I loved the Rose/Bernard reunion and the Jin/Sun reuinion. I was just mad about Shannon being dead, though.

Most people didn't even seem to wonder where Walt was either. As the one kid from their group, other than the baby, you'd figure people would notice he didn't return.:ohwell:

I hear ya'! It's too bad at the time of Jin's return that Walt couldn't muster up one of those mysterious appearances like the ones he was doing with Shannon. :rolleyes:

I hear ya'! It's too bad at the time of Jin's return that Walt couldn't muster up one of those mysterious appearances like the ones he doing with Shannon. :rolleyes:

LMAO

I wonder if Sayid will bother to tell Michael that he and Shannon saw a vision of Walt? :confused:

The Rose/Bernard reunion moment was perfection. Even though you knew it was coming, it still tugged at your heartstrings.

LMAO

I wonder if Sayid will bother to tell Michael that he and Shannon saw a vision of Walt? :confused:

If Sayid did indeed see Walt, and it wasn't a case of him just going along with whatever Shannon was ranting on about? I would guess he won't directly say so, but he will drop hints to Michael. Sayeed might even think to himself that the vision was a hallucination. To be told.... :)

If Sayid did indeed see Walt, and it wasn't a case of him just going along with whatever Shannon was ranting on about? I would guess he won't directly say so, but he will drop hints to Michael. Sayeed might even think to himself that the vision was a hallucination. To be told.... :)

I don't think he'll tell Michael any time soon. Sort of like when Sawyer initially didn't tell Jack about his dad in the bar in Australia. I do think that Sayid saw Walt just before Shannon ran after him before she got shot. The look on his face looked like he had seen a ghost. LOL

I was happy with the Reunions although I was really hoping that Roses and Barnards was a bigger ta-do maybe the candy bar maybe a little more emotion. Hmmm but it got me thinking about things. She knew he was ok it and was not endanger. Why??? Why?? Is she part of this (what ever this is) did she have some kind of inside info. could she be some kind of spy for the poject?? I knew a little out there. But if it was me I think i would of been screaming and cry and much more emotionaly.

well, didnt kate and sun know about the bottle? so they knew that they hadnt reached civilization, also michael came back to see sun before seeing everyone else so maybe word got out

I don't think we're supposed to think that Rose has any connection to the island. Her confidence that Bernard was still alive is entirely supposed to reflect her strong FAITH. She had a strong feeling (from God, in her case) that she had nothing to worry about. As a Christian, I've had many similar situations occur, not for someone's life or death, but just KNOWING that I didn't have to worry about something, regardless of how hopeless it might seem.

As to Rose and Bernard's reunion, would someone please tell me why it is garnering all the gushing and tears? It was a boringly shot and presented reunion. They saw each other, they went to each other, they hugged, they kissed. Yippee... There was nothing dramatic or emotional about that reunion. MIchael and Vincent's reunion had more emotion in it. Is it just the fact they hugged and kissed? Would the same people still be "crying like babies" if Rose and Bernard had just shaken hands?

I don't get it. I was looking forward to the reunion as much as anyone, but I think they dropped the ball on this one.

Except for the basic fact that they WERE reunited, what was so emotional about it? Help me here.

And basically, all the problems with the reunions can be summed up by the fact that TPTB pre-determined that the reunion was going to be a musical montage. While this has worked well in previous episodes, I think it fell a bit flat in this one. There were too many questions that needed to be asked for it to be all silent. As has been noted in previous posts, why wasn't anyone surprised to see them emerge from the jungle rather than the water? Where is Walt? Etc.

I see what they were trying to do, but this reunion needed to have lots of dialogue to make it make sense and to have the drama and emotion they were going for.

As to Rose and Bernard's reunion, would someone please tell me why it is garnering all the gushing and tears? It was a boringly shot and presented reunion. They saw each other, they went to each other, they hugged, they kissed. Yippee... There was nothing dramatic or emotional about that reunion. MIchael and Vincent's reunion had more emotion in it. Is it just the fact they hugged and kissed? Would the same people still be "crying like babies" if Rose and Bernard had just shaken hands?

I don't get it. I was looking forward to the reunion as much as anyone, but I think they dropped the ball on this one.

Except for the basic fact that they WERE reunited, what was so emotional about it? Help me here.

I wonder if the dropped the ball or if there is more to come.... something we don't know about yet. Because like you "what the hey kinda reunion was that" I think alot of us were expecting even looking foward to a great tear jurker sceen. So I am hoping it was done for a reason.

I think it was just that they thought it turned out more emotional than it actually was. As I said in another post, there were too many questions that logicially should have been asked at this point rather than just have it be a musical montage.

More importantly, if I was stranded on the island, and suddenly I saw the people that had left on a raft (to go find help), the first thing I would say/think when I saw them was not "Welcome back", but "So is the rescue team right behind you in the jungle?"

This reunion had just a bit too much of the characters reacting with the information WE have as the audience, rather than the information they should have as characters. WE know that they didn't get very far into the water, but the rest of the islanders don't know that (except for the ones that know that Michael returned).

As to Rose and Bernard's reunion, would someone please tell me why it is garnering all the gushing and tears? It was a boringly shot and presented reunion. They saw each other, they went to each other, they hugged, they kissed. Yippee... There was nothing dramatic or emotional about that reunion. MIchael and Vincent's reunion had more emotion in it. Is it just the fact they hugged and kissed? Would the same people still be "crying like babies" if Rose and Bernard had just shaken hands?

I don't get it. I was looking forward to the reunion as much as anyone, but I think they dropped the ball on this one.

Except for the basic fact that they WERE reunited, what was so emotional about it? Help me here.

I don't think that's going to be easy to explain as it involves each viewer's emotions. Everyone is going to react to "emotional" moments in different ways (I'm sure everyone knows someone who crys at what they think are the strangest things).

Now I'm pretty cynical and have only ever cried at 3 films (because I am very, very cynical), but this scene got me welling up. Mostly, I think this was because I am married and it played into the emotions of what I would feel it I had been separated from my partner for 48 days without knowing if they were alive, and suddenly saw them again.

That said, it could have just been that I'd had a long, tough day at work and was feeling emotional :)

WE know that they didn't get very far into the water, but the rest of the islanders don't know that (except for the ones that know that Michael returned).

But Sun was on the beach doing chores by this time so I am sure she would of told the others that they did not make it far and where on there way back.... but when I read this part of your post It brought another question to mind. When Micheal came back and told her that Jin was in the woods on his way back my first response would of been which direction and I would of ran out to find him I would not have gone down to the beach and did chores??? So maybe she did not tell anyone.

Personally I'm hoping they'll re-do this scene with dialog in the next episode. This was just the overview - emotional feeling scene and next episode we'll see how it really went down. Kind of like what did with the hatch - show the same scene from another viewpoint. Wishful thinking probably.

But Sun was on the beach doing chores by this time so I am sure she would of told the others that they did not make it far and where on there way back.... but when I read this part of your post It brought another question to mind. When Micheal came back and told her that Jin was in the woods on his way back my first response would of been which direction and I would of ran out to find him I would not have gone down to the beach and did chores??? So maybe she did not tell anyone.

Maybe Michael also told her on the way to the hatch that he was with a crazy woman who was waving a gun around. Was she there when they started getting loaded up with guns?

I think it was just a brain fart on the creative team's part. They couldn't have every reunion scene be the same, so they opted for Sun and Jin being one of the last to reunite, and for it to be the typical "doing something mundane, looking up and seeing the person, then dropping the mundane task and running to meet them halfway" version of it.

You find out that your husband that you thought might have perished in a boat wreck is still alive, you're going to run that direction as fast as you can, regardless of the danger. Or you'll bring a group of people with you, armed with all the guns that were found. Or you'll go swipe a gun yourself.

I think it was just a brain fart and that the creative team, if and when they read these posts, will be cringing and kicking themselves for this oversight.

But Sun was on the beach doing chores by this time so I am sure she would of told the others that they did not make it far and where on there way back.... but when I read this part of your post It brought another question to mind. When Micheal came back and told her that Jin was in the woods on his way back my first response would of been which direction and I would of ran out to find him I would not have gone down to the beach and did chores??? So maybe she did not tell anyone.

When Michael headed back to camp to get the things Ana wanted, Jin was still a captive along with the rest of the group. It was only after Michael left that Ana "released" Jin and the others. When Michael saw Sun, he told her that Jin was okay, but he didn't say anything other than that because he didn't know anything other than that.....

And why did Jin and Charlie share the biggest hug?? Hurley picking Jin up would have been great.

Jin and Charlie have a connection - Jin was there calming him down while Claire was giving birth. I thought it was a nice touch to see the writers remembered that. Most of the survivors probably still think of Jin as kind of a jerk, albeit a brave one.


I wonder if Sayid will bother to tell Michael that he and Shannon saw a vision of Walt? :confused:
I can understand that they both were a bit pre-occupied at the time (although I loved Sayid's reaction to the news of Walt's kidnapping), but I expect them to compare notes about it soon. If Sayid doesn't mention it at all, that is going to seem like bad writing. (It might even be bad writing.)

I just want to start by saying I loved the Jin/Sun reunion. I've been waiting for that one. My one nitpick is this. Sun went down into the hatch with michael and was there when Eko and Jack left. Now after all that went down she decides to go and laundrey. What the heck? You would think she would still be down in the hatch asking what's going on. I took it as the writers strategically placing Sun on the beach for the reunion which is OK i guess. But I still think it doesn't make much sense. Thank you hatchgirl!! The whole Sun down on the beach doing laundry thing was totally messing me up! If I was her, I think I would have hung around the hatch to see if Jack & Ecko brought everyone back. Dunno, maybe doing a little laundry was her way of killing some time while she waited for hubby to return?? Maybe Jin was one of those hubbys that freak out if the laundry isn't done when he gets home??
:)

The reunions made me cry, and I totally understood why Jack reacted the way he did. But it did seem to me like there would be more people who would say, "What is going on? Why aren't all the rafters back? And who are these other people?"

Thank you hatchgirl!! The whole Sun down on the beach doing laundry thing was totally messing me up! If I was her, I think I would have hung around the hatch to see if Jack & Ecko brought everyone back. Dunno, maybe doing a little laundry was her way of killing some time while she waited for hubby to return?? Maybe Jin was one of those hubbys that freak out if the laundry isn't done when he gets home??
:)

At times of great concern you'll find that a lot of people will do something to try and take their mind off it. For example if you know someone is undergoing an operation and you are waiting to find out how it was, you might do the washing up, or do some tidying.

OK- here is my 2 cents:
The final scene of Jack standing seperated from Ana by an eneven terrain with the two of them at the outermost points of the screen was freakin AWESOME! I loved it. He was hoping it was the Ana from the bar and yet all mixed up because if it was then she killed Shannon and chaos was about to ensue. I thought the Kate/Sawyer moment at the end was too cheesy. "You're home". Blah! I wondered why Sun was doing laundry also and not still down in the hatch getting all of the details from Michael but I just chaulk that up to them making Jin and Sun the very last reunion so our anticipation builds. Bernard and Rose choked me up as well, not so much about the way the scene played out but because I too am married and could just imagine myself as either one of them and what I might be feeling at that moment.

My take on the lack of astonishment was that it had been some time since the arrival of Eko and Sawyer, and word had spread. Sun was on the beach and she would have told everyone what she knew, so they would have been awaiting further word of the Raftaways and newcomers.

What bugged me more was that everyone in the Tailaway party was so eager to leave Ana Lucia alone with her gun and a tied-up Sayid. He would have been safer if there had been witnesses and people to keey trying to talk AL down from her irrational behavior. Leaving them alone almost gave her license to do as she pleased.