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OK, It didn't start yet, there is invasion on, I will post in every break [break?..., you know, when the show stops and there is some publicity]

I love watching the live thread numbers jump. I'm gonna estimate a max. 110 viewers by ep. end. Any other guesses? We currently have 32

do you think he is really talking about kate, or hacing a hallucination about someone from his past?

What was on the horses back for the first part of when it was shown there?

Is that Kate's Dad?

He said his never been in Love, so probaly Kate

Logo on the Horse?

I'm guessing boyfriend right now, at least I hope so

I'm thinking it's her dad. But what a perv he is.

i thought it was her dad, too...he was older than her, right?

A house just exploded. And it appears that Kate was the cause. I'm thinking explosive arson. At least, that's all I can assume...any more astute observers than I am?

Wow, Kate really is a killer. I always thought that she was getting a bum rap or something

Anything Suspicious about the Horse?

she ran the gas all night, thats why she sat outside

thats why he mentioned the smell, and she was playing with the lighter outside
she probably left the lighter next to the bed knowing hed light a cigarette

Not exactly sure, she we dont see if she keeps going after the explosion or not, but as soon as she started driving off and I saw the house I knew it was gonna blow. Strange.

I think the guy was her dad and maybe he molested her. It would explain why she is hungry for attention but afraid of it at the same time

I guess she killed her dad cuz she couldn't stand him any more. I'm guessing he does a lot more than give her compliments...

didn't see a logo on the horse lol
i'm pretty sure that's her dad or step dad - and it appears she rigged the house to blow up

That was prolly her b-friend. Thank goodness he was too drunk to figure out the smell..

well i guess that answers that question. Now i can't vincent(note this is supposed to be a word that begins with a bi and rhymes with witch) about this episode since it actually did answer a question:)

I'm thinking it was her husband...she said she was married for a short time. Probably an absusive bastard...

I love the Jack and Sawyer scene....it was awesome when Jack said Sawyer was going to have to show him how to pull a bullet our with bare hands some time :biggrin:

i'm thinking it's her stepdad.

she ran the gas all night, thats why she sat outside

thats why he mentioned the smell, and she was playing with the lighter outside
she probably left the lighter next to the bed knowing hed light a cigarette

good job of catching that...i forgot that he had said something about the smell. and he did ask her what she was doing there...apparently she is never there.

Do you think her experiences with dad/boyfriend are the reason she can't seem to stand seeing people sick/weak/in pain?

Didn't Kate say she was married once? Perhaps that is her husband.

WOW! I don't know if anyone remembers some posts a long time ago about a pic of Kate walking away from a house at night with cop cars surrounding it that was odd because it never showed up on the show. I think that may have been filmed before and scrapped.

whats up with the horse

Her maternal uncle?

Well, I guess we know what Kate did or at least what they think she did.

Step-Dad or Dad..

Now I think it was her husband. I am so confused right now, yep husband

well if she put the insurance in her moms name... maybe her mom will get accused of the crime.. just a thought

now her mom is probably going to be mad at her

Now Stepdad, so very confused

stepdad

Mum needs the Money so she did that, to get Mum the money... But her Mum will Turn her in, or call the army guy (family friend?) to get her away

Now Stepdad, so very confused
I Knew It!

Step-Dad thats interesting, Army guy must be Dad?

why would she not mention she saw a black horse in the jungle to jack???

Ana-Lucia time, Mr. Ecko is trying to comfort her, now it is Shannon's memorial service

She thought she was dreaming?

Rutherfords love ending up in the ground

why would she not mention she saw a black horse in the jungle to jack???
prob. because she thinks she was hallucinating, horses shouldn't be found on tropical islands

12 minutes in and Ive already gone through all the emotions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is great :)

definitely stepdad

yeah maybe its like jack seeing his father... which he chaulked up to hallucinating...

but the bears were real, and so was the dharma shark.... which no one did see but you know what i mean hmmm

neither should polar bears.....dharma logo?

now she mentions the horse... hmmm but she says its a hallucination too

Maybe it is the song which is gonna set Sawyer off.

maybe sawyer is tripping the light fantastic now... hmmmmm


the disease?

wow i have absolutely no idea.....

It seems that Sawyer has been possessed by Kate's stepdad.

O_o

Discuss.

Step Dad is Sawyers body?

Woah.... that was almost like Kate's stepfather took control of Sawyer...

ok i'm thinking this is all part of the Lost "being tired" phenomenon.. seeing horses.. and now it seems that Sawyer is channeling Wayne (the step/dad) with why did you kill me..

they need to all sleep more

Who was the eulogy about Sayid, Shannon or you? I know you're upset buddy but, c'mon...

Maybe it is the song which is gonna set Sawyer off.
Naw..everybody likes Patsy Cline. At least that's what Kate said in Tabula Rosa.

Possessed? Usually i'd say no.. but not sure this time around. He must be hallucinating... And darn it, i missed the very few minutes of the beginning.. anyone offering a very quick recap of the horse scene?

Id dont think Sawyer thinks its Kate, he's Hallucinating

something freaky about that hatch, first Hurly dreams Jin speak english and now Kate has vision of her step dad in sawyer's body

the man kate killed (whoever he is) the real sawyer? was sawyer able to see her flashback too? when he said "i love you" was he in his own flashback?

maybe hes possesed, didnt he die and get resuscitated? like he met her father/step dad......


this is weirddddddd

I'm thinking that Sawyer grabbed her because he is hallucinating...and he's fighting back against something...but I'm thinking SHE hallucinated what he said...

He's clearly delirious, but what really went on during the "strangling" is anybody's guess.

I'm thinking that Sawyer grabbed her because he is hallucinating...and he's fighting back against something...but I'm thinking SHE hallucinated what he said...

Most logical answer

Definitely hallucinating, but she is obviously going to take it that he is channeling Wayne

Kate was picking fruit up off the ground.. looked up and saw black horse... he trotted off.

Hopefully Sawyers flashback will enlighten us on this Scene

isn't that the marshall that arrests her?

Why tell Charlie? He's a jerk, but I guess that he's only nice when he wants to be

eko's eyes looked like he knows something about locke, didnt they???

kate is the first one sick

Fellow Jate shippers, this show s for us, Kate kissed Jack YAY!

Blast doors, huh? I wonder what kind of "blast" they were expecting? Something to do with those electromagnetic currents, perhaps?

Kate's off her rocker...LOL

Still...congrats to Jaters for getting a kiss...:)

Although in my humble opinion...it didn't hold a candle to the Skate kiss ;)

Doesnt seem like she ment to kiss him...

Ekos gone all Mysterious Aye, Wonder if he knows of the Extra Footage?

Eko, Locke and Michael are gonna watch the film again? Yeah, welcome back Dr. Candle! Man, I love that hatch!

I think this pretty much concludes that Jack is not gay. Even if he was, I bet that would make em straight... :o

i think that kate is longing for someone to just care for her...apparently no one in her past did: her step-dad, her mom giving her up...jack cared and that was her first reaction

I have a feeling Sawyer never moved and she is just losing it...I think she thought Jack was either Sawyer or someone else.

interesting.. if her mom snitched - she probably thought kate came back to kill her when kate visited her in the hospital that time.. could explain her fearful reaction to her...

i can't believe how she just kissed jack.. then ran.. she's slightly confused, eh?

yah agree...when jack grabbed her arm she lost it again

That was a very strange reaction to a kiss. What in the world is wrong with Kate? Oh the things I would do to Jack if we were stranded on an island with him! lol

The group definetly needs Michael He' s helped at the cave in at the cave and now he's found the blast doors. They may need those at some point!

Welp, let me make a little observation here. Kate appears to be losing it, she used the shower. Sawyer attacks Kate as soon as he wakes up thinking she is someone else. He used the shower too. Could the water be the cause of the sickness?

Kate definitely needs someone, but I don't think she could ever be happy because of her trust issues. Maybe she would be happy with Sawyer because she would never expect commitment from him and he from her, but Jack needs committment . I am definitely a Jate shipper, but I can see the point that the Skate people are trying to make.

wow...why do you think ecko is so upset about the movie?

Don't drink the water! Good observation.

Okay, Kate is absolutely losing it. She was just rocking back and forth in front of Shannon's grave.

"Just a snipit" "Cant be important" thats awfully casual of Locke!

does anyone think Eko has seen the dharma logo before?
the way he touched it last week when he first got to the hatch and now his reaction to the film....
me thinks Eko knows something...

Welp, let me make a little observation here. Kate appears to be losing it, she used the shower. Sawyer attacks Kate as soon as he wakes up thinking she is someone else. He used the shower too. Could the water be the cause of the sickness?

It's very possible! Good observation.

Geez, they have a little cemetary going there, don't they? I wonder how many more graves they will add by season's end?

Oggie..good observation! Didn't Jack use the shower too tho'?

does anyone think Eko has seen the dharma logo before?
the way he touched it last week when he first got to the hatch and now his reaction to the film....
me thinks Eko knows something...

I think he's been THERE before, and seen the WHOLE video or at least a different one!

Any takers?

i think ecko saw the logo in the other "hatch" they were staying in. if i remember correctly, it was either on the wall or in the case they found there.

was that a horse or a deer????

I think it's a bit rash to assume Sawyer has "the sickness." At least until his fever comes down he's very probably delirious. He's sick, but I doubt he has "the sickness."

and this is the start of Kate running...

he found the splices in the bible

hey I think we're a bit ahead in the ep here in Canada...

Yes, yummy, you're right.
There is a fotage on the bible ;)

This may be the beginning of Eko and Locke butting heads

Holy crap...Locke's eyes looked like they were going to pop out of his HEAD! LOL. So a large chunk of the reel has been cut out eh? verrrry interesting...

Although extremely long story about something before Christ that I completely turned out during ;)

I love how Michael is analyzing the situation. I hope he finds something while he's looking at the hardware.

Kate was way too defensive with the Marshal. I think that Wayne did rape her. I volunteer for a sexual abuse "clinic" where we talk to women and try to get themto go to the police or just give them support and a shoulder to cry on. Kate acts like many of the women I see on a weekly basis, defensive and in denial and eager to prove herself.

so i guess they are supposed to use the bible to rebuild something? but what? community? a life?

an idea...2 hatches..good (Bible was in), evil..Ecko discovered the good..Locke discovered the evil..hmmmm does that make sense??

Play It

yeah right they already answered 1 question this episode, they won't answer 2

did anyone notice that even though the car smashed into the tree with enough force to deploy airbags, kate was able to start the car, drive away, and there did not appear to be hardly a dent?!

They seriously better end with the completed film strip...i cant wait weeks to find out whats on it...at least itll give us something to talk to.....

And the kingdom will be rebuilt with belief rather than money...interesting message....psychological/spiritual over physical

Oggie..good observation! Didn't Jack use the shower too tho'?

Very true. But how long did it take before Kate's symtoms showed? And Sawyers Immune system is in shambles from the blood poisoning, and he had a wound that would grant whatever is in the water quicker access to his system.

so i guess they are supposed to use the bible to rebuild something? but what? community? a life?

The Film

I SOOOOO love Eko! :biggrin: Locke is just sitting there, "humoring" Eko, and then Locke sees the extra film and the look on Eko's face is so totally priceless. Wow, EKO rocks! :punk: Go Eko Go!!!!

they set it up like locke and eko were going to butt heads...i was pretty sure eko knew something about locke, but he found the film...i think eko and locke are starting to understand each other, they think more similar than they expected

xena.. yeah, bit odd. But i've been rearended with my airbags deploying and my car was pretty drivable..

So the button equals the false God? What else could the purpose of Ekos story be?
And why were there 3 graves? who am I missing?

yeah right they already answered 1 question this episode, they won't answer 2
who's to say it will answer anything...the first one just brought a gazillion new questions...i'd think them to give us some fat to chew on

back to my 2 hatches good vs. evil..the missing film was in the Bible...which was found in the "good" hatch..so it was either hidden because it caused evil things, or it is what can solve the problems..does any of this make sense??

On a side note..I love Ecko!! My new fav!!

I SOOOOO love Eko! :biggrin: Locke is just sitting there, "humoring" Eko, and then Locke sees the extra film and the look on Eko's face is so totally priceless. Wow, EKO rocks! :punk: Go Eko Go!!!!

HAHAHAHA Good point!!!!

Eko is da man!!! (well Jack too, but in a TOTALLY different way)

I could only hope they'll play the new film but dowbut it.. did someone say six weeks till new epi????

Scott (or is it Steve?), Boone and Shannon are the 3 that have officially died

So the button equals the false God? What else could the purpose of Ekos story be?
And why were there 3 graves? who am I missing?

Boone, Shannon, the Marshall?

TRANSFERENCE... Hurley said it....probably huge

OMG Hurley... "Rose's husband's white" he has a talent for saying the strangest and most inappropriate things, doesn't he? :)

Boone, Shannon, the Marshall?
I think it is Scott(or Steve), Boone and Shannon who died

i think i've seen him before in the show...i cant figure out where

OMG Hurley... "Rose's husband's white" he has a talent for saying the strangest and most inappropriate things, doesn't he? :)


Yes! I cracked up since it was straight out of the 'Lage's Bernard is White thread.

i think i've seen him before in the show...i cant figure out where

They do that to us a lot! there are a lot of characters that look like other characters! Maybe its no coinsidence?!

Hmmm - so Kate's 'Father' was in Korea....

Her daddy isn't her real daddy but her stepdad was... So she killed the step dad which was her real daddy...

Hmmmm....

I still don't see why that calls for murder...

She could have just left and found her own life.

Wait so Wayne was her real father and the man she thought was her father set her up by not telling her?
Help me out Lagers some people I really hate were talking loud at the wrong momentv:mad:

I bet kate and sawyer turn out to be relatives.

she will never be 'good'. reference to others taking 'good' people?

Film Clip Played Yet?

there have been a few references to Kate not being "good" in this ep. Hmm.....

Sayid on the tv in the recruiting office behind Kate's "dad"

Did Sawyer say "Am I saved," or "Are we saved?" I'm pretty sure it was "we," but my dog goes ballistic when I turn the show up and all this Sawyer-mumbling has tempted me to watch on mute with the closed captioning....

Did Sawyer say "Am I saved," or "Are we saved?" I'm pretty sure it was "we," but my dog goes ballistic when I turn the show up and all this Sawyer-mumbling has tempted me to watch on mute with the closed captioning....

He said are we saved? and Kate said No, not yet

Sayid on the tv in the recruiting office behind Kate's "dad"
was he really? what for? am I forgetting something?

Are we saved! Finally, a realistic response!

Sayid on the tv in the recruiting office behind Kate's "dad"

gah, i missed that..
it seems kate killed wayne/dad because she wanted to be rid of him and hated him.. weird way to do that.. kinda makes it so she'd be paying for it for a long time

I loved sawyer's response... That's the sweetest thing i've ever heard...

4 extra minutes tonight show scheduled to play til 10:04

Still wont show the movie :frown:

Walter on the other end of the comp?!?!!?

Dad?

Oh man... the best episode since the season premiere.

Ecko seems like he suspects Locke of something...or just thoroughly hates him. any ideas?

What the heck!? I didn't see any hype about an Extended Episode???!!

Yeah, ABC edited there press release and added this

Looks like we are ahead of you up here in canada, should i ruin what Michael does for you people:P

What did Kate say anyways to Sawyer when she though he was passed out and he said those are the most beautiful words he ever heard.

At least Sawyer is giving a real reaction to the HOLY COW A HATCH? that everyone else has been pretty much non-plused by. LOL

lol... that was a great Sawyer reaction. so convinced they had been rescued until he saw the jungle.

What an interesting comment by Eko - "don't mistake coincidence for fate" ... and that coming from a man of faith. Very interesting.

im in canada, still in the commercials after dad..
and now it appears that the show is over...

is next week going to be a new episode?

The black horse is back and Sawyer can see it. What does it mean? I am very coinfused right now, I don't think an episode has ever confused me more

There was no Preview of the next episode :(

is anyone else glad that ana lucia has barely been in this episode?

the cut of the film still isnt right...they are gonna have us editing this thing for a month...

I dont hate you ANA!!!!!!!!!!


I don't hate her either. Can't people just understand that she was wound up and she didn't kill Shannon out of malice. jeez

i knew it!!! it is connected to the others somehow!

Any Preview?

I Hope Somone will Post the Edited Video on the Net... i cant wait!

OMG!!! @ dad???

I think others and this project are different groups...

was it the others who edited the film? Are they the product of the first incedent, and are looking to create another?

No counter going to ZERO? I feel duped, but I am happy about the Dupe!!!

Do you think it was Walt on the computer or is the computer self aware somehow?

Whoah, next week is gonna rule! I can't wait!

did the preview say it was next week?

Is the new one on next week? And did michael disconnect the timer?

No counter going to ZERO? I feel duped, but I am happy about the Dupe!!!

The counter reached zero when Locke entered the code when Kate ran away.

No counter going to ZERO? I feel duped, but I am happy about the Dupe!!!

Yeah it was a big tease, but a good one, technically it did go to 0, before it reset, but Im glad they made it in time I dont think they are ready to handle what may happen if the computer doesn't get reset. they still need to learn more about the island and so do we :biggrin:

I read that this was the last 1st run episode for the next 6 weeks. They would have re-runs or a recap show each week until January. That totally blows!

Sayid was definitely on the TV behind Kate's dad.

What a sweet episode!!! More background on Kate, the mysterious horse, Hurly being Hurley, defiantly need more Hurley, more Sawyers wise cracks, filling some of the blanks with the video, little to no Ana and the communication with Walt at the end. That’s what I’m talking about!!! LOVED IT BIG TIME!!!! :biggrin:

i didn't like Kate's reasoning for her crime. Up until now I felt we were led to believe she claimed she was justified or innocent for her crime. Hence the Marshall once saying "i'm sure they'll believe you" once to her.


Here we find out she not only killed her father, but her reasoning was kind of silly.


However the end MORE than made up for it. Wicked WICKED ending.

i didn't like Kate's reasoning for her crime. Up until now I felt we were led to believe she claimed she was justified or innocent for her crime. Hence the Marshall once saying "i'm sure they'll believe you" once to her.


Here we find out she not only killed her father, but her reasoning was kind of silly.


However the end MORE than made up for it. Wicked WICKED ending.

First off, Wayne wasn't her father...Just the donor (at least that's what I call mine)
Second, I don't believe for a second that he never touched her. Especially after that comment about taking off his pants. I think she was able to deal with all of it by just counting the days until she could leave. Then she was given the scrapbook and figured out that Wayne was not only molesting her but committing incest at the same time. That was the final straw. :blowup: