Hanso Site Updated, and Hidden Numbers? [Archive] - { Flicks N Shows | Fringe Division

sledgeweb

12-01-2005, 01:47 AM

The string of numbers is just a bit of code that replaces the Hanso image with the flash movie, and then the letter. If you translate the code, it's ASCII code, you will see it is just HTML code. If you want to see how this works, save a copy of the page to your own computer. Then, alter the javascript functions after the code has reversed the variables and insert an alert command, such as

alert(aa);

And open the page in your browser, which will pop the tranlated numbers at the bottom in a window.

You can do the same with the other function as well to get the path to the letter.

The numbers are the HTML code for the SWF file and the GIF, only the text is reversed and coded in ASCII. The two functions translate the ASCII to text, then reverses it, and then replaces the hanso pic with that content.

darkpiranha

12-01-2005, 01:48 AM

can anyone tell if the abnormal wideness is programmed in there, or some sort of byproduct of some other code?

Noeland

12-01-2005, 02:11 AM

WTF? MOLE? That could be a very big clue. I for one was not sold on that being walt on the computer.

MellonCollie

12-01-2005, 02:14 AM

WTF? MOLE? That could be a very big clue.

Maybe ABC are just advertising one of their other shows: http://abc.go.com/primetime/themole/mole_home.html :biggrin:

sledgeweb

12-01-2005, 02:20 AM

I think the width is just caused by the chain of numbers.

gumpy5

12-01-2005, 02:25 AM

Maybe ABC are just advertising one of their other shows: http://abc.go.com/primetime/themole/mole_home.html :biggrin:

Man, I loved that show!
Maybe they will bring it back and have Harold Perrineau Jr. as the host. :grin:

BowieCokeMirror

12-01-2005, 02:27 AM

I think the width is just caused by the chain of numbers.

yeah, I saved the .html then changed it by deleting the "hidden" part of the inline CSS and it's one long line of text that blows out the browser window.

MellonCollie

12-01-2005, 02:27 AM

Man, I loved that show!
Maybe they will bring it back and have Harold Perrineau Jr. as the host. :grin:
:biggrin:

"The Mole 2 follows 14 players as they try to figure out who among them is The Mole."

Wasn't there 14 main characters at the start of Lost Season 1? OMG!!!! ;-)

mmmfruit

12-01-2005, 02:31 AM

In this: http://www.thehansofoundation.org/images/gholtr_2.gif

They mention "Zanzibar facilities", so I googled it to check out just where Zanzibar is. It's an island in the Indian Ocean. It looks like this:

http://www.evergreen-bungalows.com/pictures/beach.jpg

http://motoebici.altervista.org/tanzania/zanzibar.jpg
http://www.shinycapstar.com/Zanzibar%20b.jpg

oh and while googling for images of zanzibar, i found this image with a black horse:
http://www.thezanzibarchest.com/Resources/Zanzibar%20Chest.jpg

probably just a coincidence, but i thought it was interesting.

VoxOrion

12-01-2005, 02:37 AM

A couple of thoughts.

The Global Health Organization fax is dated 10/05, and alludes to a recent incident (my term) of some kind.

Is this evidence that the castaways are in the future? Could the incident be the situation with Desmond and his former partner? Or the person who spliced then hid the film? Or Danielle's scenario? Or just the plane crash?

I think it's clear that we're being told that what Michael saw was some kind of logon procedure...

Prompt: HELLO? (i.e. hit ctrl+alt+del to enter logon name)
Response: HELLO? (ctrl+alt+del)
Prompt: WHO ARE YOU? (i.e. enter logon name)
Response: MOLE (logon name... no password)

The question is - why would MICHAEL be a logon name, and why would it be followed up with "Dad?"

bachsmonopoly

12-01-2005, 03:14 AM

Undoubtedly this has been posted in ten million other places, but...

http://www.theislandiswaiting.com leads you to a postcard that says "Look for the Hidden Numbers" before re-directing you to oceanicflight815.com.

Could this possibly mean anything? I'm not yet ready to give up on these numbers.

sier

12-01-2005, 04:16 AM

It's not an image map. I've worked on websites for a long time, the tag (<div>) that comes before the numbers is a common CSS style tag (for making all type within the site uniform). The only thing it would be there for, that i can imagine, is for clue purposes or the just screw with us. However, it could be something very technical. That's my two cents - sorry I'm not very helpful. But that is very hidden. Good spot nnscott.

This is 100000% correct. A div tag serves a few purposes, but this means nothing as far as any scripting goes. It is there for some purpose.or to screw with us, but there is no scripting at all going on.

nnscott

12-01-2005, 02:10 PM

Since you guys dig raking through site code and finding clues... go over to http://deathball.net/notpron/ it's one of the most difficult riddles on the web and it is undoubtedly an influence to the lost site developers... I played this a year or so ago and got to level 50... Some of you guys may find it as a great way to fill in the next 6 weeks! Enjoy!

The only time I use <div> tags on sites is to set css variables for text. That is why it stuck out so much to me... I always thought <div> and <style> tags were pretty much redundant. We'll have to see...

nnscott

12-01-2005, 02:24 PM

zstrata

12-01-2005, 02:31 PM

Wow That Is Awesome!!!

HAE

12-01-2005, 02:41 PM

Could the reference to the "Zanzabar" facility somehow involve Mr. Eko? Are we sure he is Nigerian? He seems to recognize the Dharma symbols.

continuity

12-01-2005, 03:04 PM

that letter reads as if bribery has taken place...

HockeyFan

12-01-2005, 03:48 PM

Not that I had time to decode the whole thing, but the hidden div is a set of numbers (decimal numbers) that corespond to ascii characters. I decoded the first couple of lines and then the final line. It's backwards (of course). Not sure if anyone else already found this. Just mentioning it.
The characters seem to spell out html code for accessing at least one gif file and possibly some flash object. I haven't had time to decode it. Maybe I'll get back to it and maybe I wont.
It could just be something that the author put in there that they could retrieve later, but I sort of doubt that. I suspect it's some kind of clue.

The final line is:
=dissalc tcejbo<fig.2_rtlohg/segami

turn that around and it is images/gholtr.gif and then it references some object but I didn't decode future to see what classid it's referring to.

sier

12-01-2005, 03:59 PM

lemmartswan

12-01-2005, 04:01 PM

MOLE

The formal definition of the mole is the amount of substance of a system which contains as many elementary entities as there are atoms in 12 grams of carbon 12, where the carbon 12 atoms are unbound, at rest and in their ground state. [1] The number of atoms in 0.012 kilogram of carbon 12 is known as Avogadro's number. It is approximately 6.0221415 × 1023 (2002 CODATA value).

A mole is a dimensionless name for an integer, much like dozen or googol. Although the exact value of the mole is not known at present, it is equal to Avogadro's number, which is known to 1 part in 10 million.

Because of the relationship of the atomic mass unit to Avogadro's number, a practical way of stating this for atoms or molecules is: That amount of the substance containing exactly the same number of grams as the number of the atomic weight of the substance. Since iron, for example, has an atomic weight of 55.845, there are 55.845 grams in a mole of iron.

That´s the science stuff.

If we interpret this it could mean for example that MOLE is the sum of everything that´s going on on the island. Hey, even the number would fit as different variables of the reality that they are facing.

sier

12-01-2005, 04:06 PM

well,

62 116 99 101 106 98 111 47 60 62 47 32 34 114 101 121 97 108 112 10
4 115 97 108 102 116 101 103 47 111 103 47 109 111 99 46 97 105 100
101 109 111 114 99 97 109 46 119 119 119 47 47 58 112 116 116 104
34 61 101 103 97 112 115 110 105 103 117 108 112 32 34 104 115 97 108
102 45 101 118 97 119 107 99 111 104 115 45 120 47 110 111 105 116
97 99 105 108 112 112 97 34 61 101 112 121 116 32 34 110 105 97 109
111 68 101 109 97 115 34 61 115 115 101 99 99 65 116 112 105 114 99
83 119 111 108 108 97 32 34 101 108 100 100 105 109 34 61 110 103
105 108 97 32 34 116 112 109 111 114 112 34 61 101 109 97 110 32 34
57 52 49 34 61 116 104 103 105 101 104 32 34 51 51 50 34 61 104 116
100 105 119 32 34 51 51 51 51 51 51 35 34 61 114 111 108 111 99 103
98 32 34 104 103 105 104 34 61 121 116 105 108 97 117 113 32 34 102
119 115 46 116 112 109 111 114 112 34 61 99 114 115 32 100 101 98
109 101 60 62 47 32 34 51 51 51 51 51 51 35 34 61 101 117 108 97 118
32 34 114 111 108 111 99 103 98 34 61 101 109 97 110 32 109 97 114
97 112 60 62 47 32 34 104 103 105 104 34 61 101 117 108 97 118 32 34
121 116 105 108 97 117 113 34 61 101 109 97 110 32 109 97 114 97 112
60 62 47 32 34 102 119 115 46 116 112 109 111 114 112 34 61 101 117
108 97 118 32 34 101 105 118 111 109 34 61 101 109 97 110 32 109 97
114 97 112 60 62 47 32 34 110 105 97 109 111 68 101 109 97 115 34 61
101 117 108 97 118 32 34 115 115 101 99 99 65 116 112 105 114 99 83
119 111 108 108 97 34 61 101 109 97 110 32 109 97 114 97 112 60 62
34 101 108 100 100 105 109 34 61 110 103 105 108 97 32 34 116 112
109 111 114 112 34 61 100 105 32 34 57 52 49 34 61 116 104 103 105
101 104 32 34 51 51 50 34 61 104 116 100 105 119 32 34 48 44 48 44 48
44 54 61 110 111 105 115 114 101 118 35 98 97 99 46 104 115 97 108
102 119 115 47 104 115 97 108 102 47 115 98 97 99 47 101 118 97 119
107 99 111 104 115 47 98 117 112 47 109 111 99 46 97 105 100 101 109
111 114 99 97 109 46 100 97 111 108 110 119 111 100 112 102 47 47 58
112 116 116 104 34 61 101 115 97 98 101 100 111 99 32 34 48 48 48 48
52 53 51 53 53 52 52 52 45 56 98 54 57 45 102 99 49 49 45 100 54 101
97 45 101 54 98 100 99 55 50 100 58 100 105 115 108 99 34 61 100 105
115 115 97 108 99 32 116 99 101 106 98 111 60 102 105 103 46 50 95
114 116 108 111 104 103 47 115 101 103 97 109 105

These are the numbers separated by spaces. I tried a few convertors and a Hex convertor basically converted this to total empty characters with a few "b"'s thrown in (no surprise since it doesnt resemble Hex).

So it must be ascii all the way through...

sier

12-01-2005, 04:17 PM

What I have quickly decoded from the numbers so far:

images/gholt;411 #&_2.gif<object clas;511 #&id="clsid:d27cdb6e-;79 #&e6d-11cf-96b8-4445535;25 #&0000" codebase="htt;211 #&://fpdownload.macr;111 #&media.com/pub/shoc;701 #&wave/cabs/flash/sw;201 #&lash.cab#version=6;44 #&0,0,0" width="233" h;101 #&ight="149" id="pro;901 #&pt" align="middle;43 #&><param name="allo;911 #&ScriptAccess" valu;101 #&="sameDomain" /><pa;411 #&am name="movie" va;801 #&ue="prompt.swf" />;06 #&param name="qualit;121 #&" value="high" /><p;79 #&ram name="bgcolor";23 #&value="#333333" /><e;901 #&bed src="prompt.s;911 #&f" quality="high" ;89 #&gcolor="#333333" wi;001 #&th="233" height="14;75 #&" name="prompt" al;501 #&gn="middle" allow;38 #&criptAccess="sameD;111 #&main" type="applic;79 #&tion/x-shockwave-;201 #&lash" pluginspage=;43 #&http://www.macrom;101 #&dia.com/go/getflas;4 #& player" /></object>

Let me clean this up and see if we cant find a hidden flash movie...

sier

12-01-2005, 04:24 PM

Alright. The numbers are Ascii, just reversed, as HockeyFan pointed out. When they are decoded, its nothing more than a path to an image that isnt there:

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/images/gholtr_2.gif

and this flash file:

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/prompt.swf

So it appears the mystery of the hidden numbers is decoded/deciphered/solved.

### EDIT ###

For reference, here is the completed code deciphered:

images/gholtr_2.gif<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0" width="239" height="149" id="prompt" align="middle"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" /><param name="movie" value="prompt.swf" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#333333" /><embed src="prompt.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#333333" width="239" height="149" name="prompt" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /></object>

TheShrinkLady

12-01-2005, 04:25 PM

I clicked on the flash/photo of Hanso.

Got the computer screen.

Then it goes to another screen, with letter from Hanso saying let's put our troubles behind us. Hope things are going well in ZANZIBAR facility.

http://zanzibar.net/zanzibar/what_is_zanzibar

Zanzibar is an island off the East Coast of Africa. It is near Kenya and Tanzania.

AnnieBW

12-01-2005, 04:39 PM

Zanzibar is an island that joined with Tanganyka (sp?) to form the nation of Tanzania on the Indian Ocean coast of Africa.

sier

12-01-2005, 04:42 PM

Actually I screwed up the image part of it. The image is this:

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/images/gholtr_2.gif

Which is what displays when you click on Alvar Hanso's picture.

Apprently this is what is happening:

The numbers dont mean anything (that sounds familiar). They are simply ascii that, once the Alvar Hanso picture is clicked, convert to HTML, which contains the flash movie (the prompt, which is the first thing you see), and then it loads an image on the page (the image that is linked in this post).

The only reason i can figure they do this is to prevent people from stealing their images easily. Since you cant just right click and "save" the image that looks like a document, normally someone would view the source of the page to steal the image. Well the way this is coded, you have to jump through a few hoops to steal the image.

But now that we know how to jump through them, we can get any of those images that we want.

Slopster53

12-01-2005, 05:02 PM

How about the Joop life extension? Looks like Alvar did infact find a way to extend primate life w/o side effects!! I hope this comes into play on the island.:biggrin:

dragongrrl

12-01-2005, 05:12 PM

the numbers at the bottom of the page are unicode equivalents of letters and numbers of text.

they are there as a way to "encrypt" the page. the first flash taggy thing is embedded elsewhere on the page and is the code to play the "mole" flash movie, which you can see here :: http://www.thehansofoundation.org/prompt.swf

the second half of the string is the url to the letter that embeds itself into the page after the flash movie plays in that page. here is the url: http://www.thehansofoundation.org/images/gholtr_2.gif

elsewhere on the site, this is embedded which is (apparently) a precursor to the _2 letter : http://www.thehansofoundation.org/images/ltr_gho.gif

the numbers in themselves have no meaning outside of the fact that they correspond to normal text. the page was created to be difficult to reverse-engineer.

HockeyFan

12-01-2005, 05:18 PM

Well, after my earlier discovery and decoding, I get the following, which is a lot like Sier was able to get:

>tcejbo/<>/ "reyalphsalfteg/og/moc.aidemorcam.www//:ptth"=egapsnigulp
"hsalf-evawkcohs-x/noitacilppa"=epyt "niamoDemas"=sseccAtpircSwolla
"elddim"=ngila "tpmorp"=eman "941"=thgieh "332"=htdiw "333333#"=rolocgb
"hgih"=ytilauq "fws.tpmorp"=crs debme<>/ "333333#"=eulav "rolocgb"=eman marap<>/ "hgih"=eulav "ytilauq"=eman marap<>/ "fws.tpmorp"=eulav
"eivom"=eman marap<>/ "niamoDemas"=eulav "sseccAtpircSwolla"=eman marap<>"elddim"=ngila "tpmorp"=di "941"=thgieh "332"=htdiw
"0,0,0,6=noisrev#bac.hsalfws/hsalf/sbac/evawkcohs/bup/moc.aidemorcam.daolnwodpf//:ptth"=esabedoc
"000045355444-8b69-fc11-d6ea-e6bdc72d:dislc"=dissalc
tcejbo<ig.2_rtlohg/segami

Where this is:

images/gholtr_2.gif<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-
444553540000"
codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0"
width="233" height="149" id="prompt" align="middle"><param
name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" /><param name="movie"
value="prompt.swf" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param
name="bgcolor" value="#333333" /><embed src="prompt.swf" quality="high"
bgcolor="#333333" width="233" height="149" name="prompt" align="middle"
allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /></object>

After further examination, not being able to see that gif file, I suspect the person that coded this up had a previous version and wanted to save it for possible later use and so he/she encoded it so we couldn't read it, and then put it inside a hidden div.

dragongrrl

12-01-2005, 05:30 PM

nice work, everyone.

i think the MOLE is a person in hanso that is leaking these "classified" documents and is hiding them within the hanso foundation site.

this is starting to remind me a little of the "i love bees" alternate reality game. they should really start hiding text in the pictures on the site. that would be fun to decode. if anyone connected with the website is reading this, i recommend you guys to check out "i love bees" and how the Princess left clues for us.

sier

12-01-2005, 05:35 PM

the numbers in themselves have no meaning outside of the fact that they correspond to normal text. the page was created to be difficult to reverse-engineer.

Exactly. Either to give us something to tinker with or simply to protect them from hotlinking images and flash files. With enough effort, we can hotlink the items, but the average user would have serious trouble finding the paths to the images/flash files.

jake1189

12-02-2005, 11:28 PM

This is my first post and I haven't seen this on the site anywhere has anyone else found it? http://www.thehansofoundation.org/dharma.html

BTD Greg

12-03-2005, 10:40 PM

That letter on the Hanso Foundation website deserves more critical attention that it has gotten here so far. (I apologize if someone has analyzed this to death in a thread I haven't seen).

Here are some observations about the letter:

It's not a letter either to or from Hanso. Instead, it's a letter from the Director General of the Executive Committee of the Global Health Organization, and it's addressed to Hr. Lundquist and Hr. Ragnorsson, respectively the Chief Legal Counsel and Chief Communications Officer, presumably of The Hanso Foundation.
The letter is written diplomatically with a lot of unwritten subtext about some "unpleasantness" that has occurred beween the Hanso Foundation and the GHO in the past.
I think it's fair to speculate that the "unpleasantness" had to do with accusations by the GHO that Hanso's activities were creating health risks. Hanso responded by paying off the GHO in the form of a large, "extremely generous" donation.
The apparent health risk had something to do with the Hanso Foundation's "Zanzibar facilities." As has been noted, Zanzibar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanzibar) is an island (actually, a pair of islands) off the east coast of Africa in the Indian Ocean.
The Losties aren't in Zanzibar. I think we should assume that the Losties are at least somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. We can accept that the plane got off course, but it's too much to believe that the plane wandered so far that it ended up to the west of Australia almost to Africa.
So, I think we can assume that the Hanso Foundation is conducting research on more than one island. And that the Zanzibar research suffered some sort of incident that created health risks. Oh yeah, and the project itself was involved with "life extension."
The date, as noted is Oct 4, 2005. I've always believed that the Losties are neither in the past or the future. (Although, if you assume that they started in the present, they are now almost a year behind the rest of us, since the show started in 2004 and it's now only about fifty days later.)
I get the idea that Hanso is something of a recluse. The fact that the orientation film only included an odd sillouete, rather than a decent photograph, should be the first clue. But the way that the letter refers to the executives possibly having the "good fortune" of meeting Hanso personally, I get the idea he doesn't get out much.

ohmyheart

12-03-2005, 10:53 PM

The date, as noted is Oct 4, 2005. I've always believed that the Losties are neither in the past or the future. (Although, if you assume that they started in the present, they are now almost a year behind the rest of us, since the show started in 2004 and it's now only about fifty days later.oh man, that time concept just hurt my head. i've never thought of it like that before. so then are the things on these websites dated 2005 meant to be giving clues to the past? i mean, the past of what happened on lost island since, like you said, we've only seen about 50 days for them.

darkpiranha

12-04-2005, 12:20 PM

I think we're supposed to believe that the Lostians are current with whatever year it happens to be in our world. Without planting definitive dates, they can always reference stuff that is happening in the real world and say it happened before the Lostians crashed. If this show goes on for seven years, that will still be less than a year on the island. They will always want the show to seem 'current'.

CarlsonJJ

12-04-2005, 12:54 PM

the numbers in themselves have no meaning outside of the fact that they correspond to normal text. the page was created to be difficult to reverse-engineer.

I think this statement might be more relevant than simply in regards to the coding on the webpage. Could some sort of relationship be made to the numbers in the show based upon what you all have been doing with the code?

Also, did anyone notice you can click on various portions of the "active projects?" For instance, in the Life Extension Project you can click on Einnarsson.

CarlsonJJ

12-04-2005, 01:04 PM

Also interesting, is the word "Namaste".
http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/namaste1.html
http://mlmgorilla.com/namaste/
http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/namaste

Also, do you think MOLE might have something to do with the login on http://thedharmainitiative.org?

CarlsonJJ

12-04-2005, 01:18 PM

In general I think the Hanso site is really giving alot away. Look at the active projects: remote viewing, cryogenics, juxatopositional eugenics, etc. Many of the ideas that have been posted on the fuselage have already contained some of these concepts. Someone had posted a very indepth idea that involved cyrogenically frozen scientists hidden in the bunker controlling things with their mind. I may not agree with that as the actual case, but something involving the active projects is to blame for the events on the island.

This was a good wrap up I thought of what these were all about:
http://www.lostinvestigations.com/theories/index.php?x=23