So, I know this is silly, but I noticed it...

The Janis Joplin shirt Kate is wearing in the flashbacks is from lucky brand jeans, THIS SEASON.

Which of course, is too early for it to be real. Something only a fashion nut like me would notice:)

Good catch!!! Too funny

How is this an error? Perhaps she made it herself, or it is a prototype, or just coincidentally similar, or in this LOST universe, the shirt was made long ago. If you try hard enough, you can explain these so-called errors away, maybe even earn yourself a Marvel No-Prize...

agree with MaggieRyanJr.

there has always been the possiblility that the plane crashed in the future, and the flashbacks we are seeing are occuring now,

There is also the possibility Kate is wearing an actual concert shirt that they've only duplicated this year.

Tommy Hilfiger is famous for taking old stuff, making it look a little different and reselling...

sorry, fashion history maven here

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I like pie.

i think that friendlyben is onto something. all of the characters are seen in their flashbacks wearing current clothing styles, which i noticed during shannon's flashback. i'm defininitely inclined to think the plane crash was in the future. we know that because of some of the technology that the crash couldn't be that far in the past (hurley's discman) so why bring up the point of timelines at all if it wasn't referring to the future?

The calendar in the background at the bus depot seems to be a 2005 calendar according to some. I wish we could find clear screen caps of it!

LOL I never even thought about her shirt or the calendar! Good eye guys!

She is using 2004 issue 20 Dollar Bills at the station, so this would cement the first time of her and the Marshall meeting in 2004. It's the bill w/ Jackson's head on it with no oval around it, and color marking like a Blue Eagle on the left side:

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/33413481239.jpg&s=x12

Also, I did try to find a "2005" in the bus stations on the calendars, but its too blurry or small to make out. Maybe someone else can spot them...

The "Lost companion book" mentions that the plane crashed in October 2004.

I happen to think that they are all just props. Not associated with any year. Television is a business and they have a budget. I don't think hey would necessarily pay someone to track down old $20 bills and t-shirts if they had props on hand that wouldn't make a significant difference to the story line. I could be wrong though. I also think that they may never give us a time as it doesn't effect the story one way or another. It could be three years ago, last year or three years in the future. They probably won't ever nail down a year because if the show runs for five years the characters will still be in 2004 and we will be in 2009.

[QUOTE=chloe173;638202]The Janis Joplin shirt Kate is wearing in the flashbacks is from lucky brand jeans, THIS SEASON. QUOTE]

I almost bought that shirt last time I was in "The Buckle" store and instantly said "Kate does some product placement for Lucky Brand" when I saw it last night.

I agree with Joeywally. It's just a show that needs to be supplied and ordinary-everyday-viewers-at-home aren't supposed to notice these things. (Though, let's face it, us Lostaceans are quite the ravenous, detail-oriented audience!)

The thing is...there have been tons of continuity errors in flashbacks, and I'm not even talking about props!

Shannon's flashback was two years ago, yet the accident where Jack met his future-wife was supposed to be four years ago. But the same accident was in both flashbacks! What's up with that?

There's been more examples of escewed continuity but that's the most recent one and the only one I can think of at the top of my head.

The calendar in the background at the bus depot seems to be a 2005 calendar according to some. I wish we could find clear screen caps of it!

I can't make a screenshot but I just watched the scene and the calendar is either too blurry or obscured by post-its (deliberately by the production crew I assume) to read what year or even what month it is. Unless you knew the brand of calendar I don't think anyone could specify what year it's for.

I agree with Joeywally. It's just a show that needs to be supplied and ordinary-everyday-viewers-at-home aren't supposed to notice these things. (Though, let's face it, us Lostaceans are quite the ravenous, detail-oriented audience!)
totally.

i love cake.

totally.

Just to totally clarify here (because I'm the one that mentioned the $20 bill), I agree with you. Scientifically speaking this would cement the date, but I agree that this is television and this doesnt really mean anything at all. I just like pointing things out..hahaha.

I wear shirts, too.

I think they use these shirts for a reason they know we look at shirts

maybe to show that kate has the same rebellious nature.


"Don't compromise yourself. You're all you've got." - Janis Joplin

I agree it was a sloppy error to use the new 20s, especially by now when they KNOW we look for m inutia, but I have to disagree on the supposition that the crash is set in the future: if that were the case, Jack's use of "And that's why the Red Sox will never win the series" wouldn't make any sense.

there has always been the possiblility that the plane crashed in the future, and the flashbacks we are seeing are occuring now,

This post is ignorant. My reply until now has been ignorant.

Kates flashbacks can't have been in the future. Mainly since it shows her committing the crime, then talking to non cancer mom, then getting chased by us marshalls. Now she's on the island. The Marshall chasing her in those scenes is dead and still on the island in a grave.

How do you possibly explain this flashback being in the future????????????????

How?????

I agree it was a sloppy error to use the new 20s, especially by now when they KNOW we look for m inutia, but I have to disagree on the supposition that the crash is set in the future: if that were the case, Jack's use of "And that's why the Red Sox will never win the series" wouldn't make any sense.


It's also really easy to say Jack's dad didn't know the Red Sox's had won the world series, I mean he's drunk, drugged up, on A BENDER OF A LIFETIME, that eventually led to his death, and IN AUSTRAILIA!

Besides in my recollection I believe the Red Sox won the series after that episode was aired thus making it perfectly fine for Christain to state that line.

I dont think he said the flashbacks were in the future, he said the plane crash was in the future. As in maybe when the series finally ends, we find out that the whole thing took place that year, instead of 2004... ya know.... maybe.

Also, arent these things you guys are pointing out, if anything, more anachronisms than continuity errors?

It's also really easy to say Jack's dad didn't know the Red Sox's had won the world series, I mean he's drunk, drugged up, on A BENDER OF A LIFETIME, that eventually led to his death, and IN AUSTRAILIA!

Besides in my recollection I believe the Red Sox won the series after that episode was aired thus making it perfectly fine for Christain to state that line.

Your recollection is, in fact, wrong. The Red Sox won the world series in October 2004. Only six episodes had aired at that point. "Outlaws," which featured the bar meeting between Sawyer and Jack's dad, aired on February 16, 2005.

Your recollection is, in fact, wrong. The Red Sox won the world series in October 2004. Only six episodes had aired at that point. "Outlaws," which featured the bar meeting between Sawyer and Jack's dad, aired on February 16, 2005.Maybe it was filmed just prior to their winning the series. That is highly likely considering the amount of post-production time that is spent on a show of this caliber.

To: Creative Team
From: Lost Critics
To solve "continuity errors", we will have to adapt the following new procedures:
1. All clothing must be plain, with no design so as not to confuse viewers into thinking of a specific date and time. The way to go is 100% generic.
2. Use of real world items such as currency is strictly forbidden. Please substitute generic looking credit cards or if absolutely necessary - Monopoly money.
3. Use of references to the real world is absolutely forbidden - if you must mention a baseball team, you must use creativity in making up a name - using a real team name leads to endless speculation and threats of never watching the show again. A name such as the Boston BatBallers would be good. Do not mention any real names. However.....
4. the use of made up names - such as the Apollo chocolate bar also causes issues - so going forth you should use names such as "chocolatee bar" & "batballers"
5. Do not use calendars or posters that include the year - as this is causing much conflict. Please substitute the numbers with the words "Current Year", "Sometime", "Before" or "Right Now" so as to avoid confict and confusion. However, use of The Numbers in place of the year is okay.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Its just that the new style money is a silly oversight when you know you're setting something years in the past. Just like if they showed Kate playing a PS2 instead of the original Playstation in her flashback.

The patch on the sleeve of Kate's "daddy's" uniform is the insignia of the 6th Army, which was deactivated in 1995. But the posters in the recruiting office are not from the "Be All You Can Be" campaign; they're from the more recent "Army of One," campaign, which debuted in late 2000 or early 2001. Sayid would have left Iraq in 1997; but when we see him being arrested on the TV (in the promo pix), he seems to be wearing a uniform. (It could be a taped promotional video shown to potential recruits, or he might have been arrested outside of Iraq.)
Does the prop department realize the prop errors are messing up the timeline?

I agree it was a sloppy error to use the new 20s, especially by now when they KNOW we look for m inutia, but I have to disagree on the supposition that the crash is set in the future: if that were the case, Jack's use of "And that's why the Red Sox will never win the series" wouldn't make any sense.

I agree. I'm in the September, 2004 camp.