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zaffudo
12-01-2005, 06:56 PM
I ran a search, but didn’t find anyone mentioning it, so I figured I would.

Did anyone else notice that the kitchen that Kate walked Wayne through to take him to the bedroom is the same kitchen that the old man she stayed in Australia had?

I guess I could be mistaken, but I’m pretty certain it’s the exact same layout.

Marielita426
12-01-2005, 10:51 PM
I thought so too when I saw it. Cannot say for sure that it was the same kitchen but it did look VERY familiar. :)

sickotriz
12-01-2005, 11:00 PM
LOL, I love the title of this thread. Good catch if it's true.

I thought this thread was going to be about the inevitable power struggle for the kitchen in Swan station which I am sure will be the focus of the rest of season 2. I hear there's an episode where Mr. Eko goes postal and starts putting lumps on heads with his stick because people don't wash the dishes or take out the trash...

LostMyMarbles
12-02-2005, 03:00 PM
I also think that Mars wrecked the same gold car that's been in so many other Lostaways' pasts (and auto crashes), but I didn't see anybody else mention it.

And the same hotel room appears in Sydney (where Boone and Shannon did it) and somewhere in the United States (where Sawyer's tryst with his floozie was interrupted by Hibbs). I think somebody mentioned that Boone even sat in the same chair Hibbs did!

juicyfruitgome
12-02-2005, 03:16 PM
Yeah, and the room that Claire goes to to sign her baby away to the couple (in "Raised by Another", I believe) is the same room Michael's meeting with Walt's mom and their lawyers takes place in (not sure what episode). They just changed the paintings in the background. I'm thinking they're saving some money by not building new sets.

Slopster53
12-02-2005, 03:24 PM
There have been a couple posts on this and most people concluded that these similar sets in multiple scenes (the kitchen, the lawyers office) were simply for shooting sake and don't have an actual impact on the story. Of course it's too early to tell, but I'm guessing this is the probable explanation.

LostMyMarbles
12-02-2005, 04:15 PM
But it's so blatant--not as if they even try to disguise it. The signing-away-the-kids conference room, which mysteriously changed continents just like the hotel room did, is the best example; that's an architecturally distinctive room, and the two events so closely parallel each other.

I think they're saving money and yanking our chains (to coin a phrase) at the same time.

flora
12-02-2005, 04:25 PM
It's not blatant. The board room for example was shot from a different side with different lighting in between Claire's flashback in RBA and Michael's flashback in Adrift to make it look different. The board room in Jack's flashback of his father's hospital hearing looked more like Michael's board room than Claire's, (IMO), just because of the lighting.

Remember the big story last year that the Lost production was taking over some new warehouse in Hawaii to build more sets (speculated at the time, probably correctly, to be the 'hatch'). I'm sure they don't go in and totally change set construction for everyone's flashback.

twenty-three
12-02-2005, 04:27 PM
28 mil on the pilot...top rated show on abc...and they can't build new sets for new places?

flora
12-02-2005, 04:37 PM
28 mil on the pilot...top rated show on abc...and they can't build new sets for new places?

I'm sure they can afford new sets, but as they are on a tight television production schedule I doubt they always have the time to do so.


Plus, this is a business like anything else. Remember all the hullabaloo from ABC about "Lost" having too many characters [to pay]? I'm sure there's someone at the network who is making sure that they don't spend so extravagantly and is approving costs, ect.

jessieslost
12-02-2005, 04:44 PM
I don't think it's meant to be any intentional plot point if they are reusing sets. I guess I just don't have that great of a visual memory, because none of those similarities have stood out to me. I think if it was meant to be pivotal to the plot, they would've made it more recognizable to the average viewer.

eehee
12-02-2005, 05:52 PM
This reminds me of when my dad used to get mad at Chips because one minute they were speeding through San Bernardino on I-10 and the next second they were on an offramp in LA. :rolleyes:

boo_boo_cat
12-02-2005, 06:52 PM
I think the kitchens are different but the napkin holder on the table is the same! :biggrin:

Wayne's kitchen:

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=farmerkitchen23oc.jpg

Australian kitchen:

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=farmerkitchen14uf.jpg

waltisfuture
12-02-2005, 06:58 PM
I also think that Mars wrecked the same gold car that's been in so many other Lostaways' pasts (and auto crashes), but I didn't see anybody else mention it.!

I posted this too and noone bit. The overhead shot totally looked like a gold car.

slantnames
12-02-2005, 07:42 PM
I think the kitchens are different but the napkin holder on the table is the same! :biggrin:

Wayne's kitchen:

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=farmerkitchen23oc.jpg

Australian kitchen:

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=farmerkitchen14uf.jpg

*cue Twilight Zone music* Now you are starting to spook me folks.

sioux21
12-02-2005, 08:18 PM
28 mil on the pilot...top rated show on abc...and they can't build new sets for new places?

I am positive Desperate Housewives is the top rated show on ABC. Also, when I saw the top 10 Nielsen ratings, I see Grey's Anatomy above Lost as well.

flora
01-10-2006, 08:34 PM
I think the kitchens are different but the napkin holder on the table is the same! :biggrin:

Wayne's kitchen:

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=farmerkitchen23oc.jpg

Australian kitchen:

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=farmerkitchen14uf.jpg


Hmmm...same chairs...and the cabinets look similar.

TabbyRasa
01-10-2006, 09:15 PM
Another one: Sabrina's entryway/living room is the same set/setting as Lucy Heatherton's family's. But one was in the US and the other in the UK, so it's probably re-use of sets.

hopelesslylost
01-10-2006, 09:24 PM
It seems there is a serious glitch in the Matrix.

Fickle Fascination
01-10-2006, 11:04 PM
It seems there is a serious cliche in the Matrix.

What, the one that has all of the unbelievably cool and aspirational heroes wearing a uniform of designer shades and enough shiny leather to make a PETA member burst into tears? That scene early on in Reloaded where all the captains are standing around having a big in-Matrix discussion had me laughing out loud in the theatre...

Oh, sorry, Lost forum, my bad.


I think with the sets issue, you have to look at what's practical for the producers of the show. They need a lawfirm-y looking room in two seperate episodes - that's not the most thrilling set to conceptualise (not on a show which has underground bunkers and a new challenge in making Oahu look like everywhere in the world every week) and this show isn't Ally McBeal. They had an existing negotiation room, the layout of which i'm sure follows a pretty standard template in reality as well, so they just redressed it, lit it differently and hoped (correctly) that the average viewer who is more concerned with the characters and dialogue wouldn't notice.

Maybe it also speaks to TPTB's clear aim of establishing and revisiting themes throughout the show - just as you can have musical cues which are appropriately modified and reused to evoke an array of different emotions, just as lines of dialogue can repeat and/or mirror previous statements, maybe, just maybe, there's a desire to
create in the audience a vague, almost subconscious, sense of familiarity with these locations.

Or the money thing. Who knows?

Slopster53
01-11-2006, 09:45 AM
Same car turning up in multiple backstories and hittin Mike...
Same lawyer boardroom for the meetings...
Same plane obviously...

Maybe there is a conspiracy.

LostLaura
01-11-2006, 11:10 AM
Maybe it also speaks to TPTB's clear aim of establishing and revisiting themes throughout the show - just as you can have musical cues which are appropriately modified and reused to evoke an array of different emotions, just as lines of dialogue can repeat and/or mirror previous statements, maybe, just maybe, there's a desire to
create in the audience a vague, almost subconscious, sense of familiarity with these locations.

I think this is definitely plausible. I don't think money is an issue, but that time is. So, if you have a limited amount of time to create a new set, and you already have one that basically fits the bill for what you need... why make a new one? Especially when you already have a recurring theme on your show about crossed paths, similiar yet different pasts, characters taking on another characters traits or phrases, etc... I especially like Fickle's quote above: "a vague, almost subconscious, sense of familiarity with these locations". I think that's a very important aspect of Lost. Listen to the most recent Podcast with Michael Giachimmo (sp?) where he talks about how the music cues the viewer in on this vague sense of familiarity with the scene or setting....

Until I see more blatant examples of sets being reused (blatant enough for a casual, but regular, viewer to become suspicious or curious...), then I will choose to believe that the reasons are time constraints and thematic.

sioux21
01-11-2006, 11:37 AM
Another one: Sabrina's entryway/living room is the same set/setting as Lucy Heatherton's family's. But one was in the US and the other in the UK, so it's probably re-use of sets.
Who are Sabrina and Lucy Heatherton?

LostLaura
01-11-2006, 11:43 AM
Who are Sabrina and Lucy Heatherton?
Sabrina is Shannon's stepmother and Lucy is the girl Charlie dated in order to steal the expensive item from (he got the copy machine job).

TheNumbers
01-11-2006, 11:51 AM
See, the thing is that the writers have told us that so many things are significant that we pick this show apart frame by frame...I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, because I do it to...

This show has created some cinematic monsters!

Stridog
01-11-2006, 12:03 PM
Its clearly because they are all in Pergatory ;)


See what happened was when Wayne's kitchen was blown up it was entered a wormhole and thus landed in Australia.


Also while on the topic of Wayne, I think that Wayne used a portal into Sawyer much like that of the portal in Being John Malkovich to speak to Kate through Sawyer.


Alright alright enough silliness. I am too new to be goofing around. I think that this might have just been a coincidence and TPTB didn't think that fans would notice a recycled set. I just think that with the time constraints of taping as other people have said, certain things needed to be reused in order to make taping deadlines. But then again I could be wrong and will end up with some tasty leather in my mouth.

Slopster53
01-11-2006, 12:18 PM
I'll say this, if it hits a third time, I'm gonna half to jump ship and say "story based"

sioux21
01-11-2006, 03:22 PM
Sabrina is Shannon's stepmother and Lucy is the girl Charlie dated in order to steal the expensive item from (he got the copy machine job).

Well, thank you for that. I did not remember their names.

LostLaura
01-11-2006, 03:25 PM
Well, thank you for that. I did not remember their names.

No prob. Lots to remember with this show. :biggrin:

dickey2345
01-11-2006, 03:31 PM
LOL, I love the title of this thread. Good catch if it's true.

I thought this thread was going to be about the inevitable power struggle for the kitchen in Swan station which I am sure will be the focus of the rest of season 2. I hear there's an episode where Mr. Eko goes postal and starts putting lumps on heads with his stick because people don't wash the dishes or take out the trash...

That would be too funny. Eko crackin skulls.

Slopster53
01-11-2006, 03:33 PM
That would be too funny. Eko crackin skulls.

It'll happen again on Lost, Mark my Words. OOOooooOOOoooo:biggrin: