I believed this theory for a while and after watching this weeks episode im convinced. I think its pretty much common knowledge that the island was used for some kind of experiments by Hanso. My theroy is that "the others" were human test subjects, but the expirements went wrong, and the others effected by "the sickness" turned on the scientists and began to kill them off, (now known as the incident). The scientist created a security system (the monster) which keeps "the others" away from the part of the island around the hatch, which is why the main group of surviviors have not seen "the others" yet and why the tailies have not seen the secuirty system. Now pushing the button every 108 minutes keeps the security system active, and the reason they dont want the computer used for anything personal is because they dont want anything happening to it so it keeps working, so "the others" to get in and cause another "incident". one last not I dont believe that was Walt that Michael was talking to on the computer, I think its the others trying to trick them into deactivating the security system.

Interesting concept. Does this mean that Michael's attempt at communication would evoke some kind of response of the security system? Perhaps it will respond in an unexpected manner, or at least, one which it was not designed to react.

What type of event has triggered the security system so far? Has there been a trigger, or has it been random?

What type of event has triggered the security system so far? Has there been a trigger, or has it been random?[/quote]



I dont think that its radom at all, I think each time that it goes off it was triggered. In the first episode when we see the monster, I think that was Ethan sneaking over. Then there was the time that we seen the monster when it grabbed Locke, They proberly crossed some kind of line and triggered it.

I think that was Ethan sneaking over. Then there was the time that we seen the monster when it grabbed Locke, They proberly crossed some kind of line and triggered it.

Interesting...was Ethan getting too close to a sensitive area of the island? Why did the security system kill the pilot?

The scientist created a security system (the monster) which keeps "the others" away from the part of the island around the hatch, which is why the main group of surviviors have not seen "the others" yet and why the tailies have not seen the secuirty system.

Nice theory and I deffinetly think that there is a link between the security system and the relative absence of the others from jack and co's side of the island.

Interesting...was Ethan getting too close to a sensitive area of the island? Why did the security system kill the pilot?

well if my theory is correct, its proberly because the polit was in the forbinded area. the cockpit was in a different area then the rest of the plane.

the monster, controlled by active Dharma experimenters, may have killed the pilot to prevent him from revealing information to the survivors.

Here's what gets me about the "incident." Something doesn't add up (no I'm not saying it's a writing mistake):

The Orientation film said that the station was for researching the electromagnetic fluctuations, but that then there was an incident, and since then the people manning Swan station have to input the numbers every 108 minutes.

Except the footage that was cut out and hidden in the bible says that if they attempt to communicate with the outside world, it could cause another incident.

Now I have to wonder what the computer was for before the incident, or if there was even a computer down there.

Ugh...sorry I thought I knew where I was going with this - it's just getting terribly hard to follow the twists and turns.
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I found it interesting that when Locke typed on the keyboard nothing happened but when michael answered the keys were functional.

Well, I think the only reason Michael could type into the computer is because the computer was in a different mode indicated by the strange beeping. The beeping kind of reminded me of something you would hear when there is an incoming message or something that is waiting for a reply.

Here's how I read the sequence of events from the scene:

1) Michael is messing around with the equipment. He then hears a beep.
2) Since Michael has never heard the warning alarm to enter the numbers, he looks up at the timer to see if it is in the 4 minute window. (Based on Locke's explanation of things to him and Mr. Eko). The timer is at 51 minutes.

3) He goes back to working and hears the beep again.
4) He gets up to see where the noise is coming from and notices the computer. The computer at this point has an incoming message saying "Hello?".

I think no one else has been able to type in the computer, besides the 4 minute window, because the computer was never in communication mode before.

I am not sure why a message is coming in now, maybe whomever is on the other end knows the people manning the station are not part of the Dharma project (i.e. They know Desmond is gone or Desmond told the person on the other end who the survivors are), or maybe Michael accidentally messed with something that allowed the computer to be used for communication.

Speaking of Desmond, we really don't know where Desmond went running off to. In episode "Everybody hates Hugo" Locke mentions that he was unable to track him, but why? Desmond was running fast there should have been many broken small branches, etc., it's not like he was trying to be careful to not leave a trail.

Where are his tracks? The others don't leave any tracks either....:undecide:

I Think That The Others Are In Some Sort Of Spying Section Or Using The Boy To Do Some Sort Of Viewing On Them, They Saw Them Watching The Video Or Walt Felt His Dad By The Computer And The Others Are Either Letting Him Talk To Bait Him, Or They Are Talking To Him Pretending To Be Walt. Hanso Is On The Island Since His Glass Eye Was In The Arrow Room.

Speaking of Desmond, we really don't know where Desmond went running off to. In episode "Everybody hates Hugo" Locke mentions that he was unable to track him, but why? Desmond was running fast there should have been many broken small branches, etc., it's not like he was trying to be careful to not leave a trail.

Where are his tracks? The others don't leave any tracks either....:undecide:

Or he might have found a fate lilke the pilot. Which would blow.

I don't buy the security system keeping the others away. How else did Ethan move so freely throught he fuselage camp? He came and went multiple times without the security system making a ruckus. Also, I doubt he acted alone in Charlie and Claire's kidnapping. He would probably need at least one more person to drag one of them along. Then there were the seperate tracks. One followed by Locke and Boone the other by Kate and Jack. Ethan can't be in two places at once. If that were the case then the security system would have let even more others through. Which begs the questions why the fuselage group isn't being hit by them more often.

Plus if the guys on the boat in the finale were part of the others then they have a boat at their disposal and could come and go via the beach anytime they wanted apparently. So, they would still have a way to get to the fuselage survivors if they wanted to. I think the others are leaving them alone for another reason. Which is still unknown to us. Perhaps they don't care about taking the other survivors. Perhaps someone in the camp is working with them and they don't need to take anyone. Perhaps Locke made some sort of bargain with them. Who knows? (other than the writers)

Hanso Is On The Island Since His Glass Eye Was In The Arrow Room.

Huh. That's new. What makes you think it's Alvar's eye?

i don't know how The Others couldn't leave tracks after we saw the children from the tail section walking with them in the jungle when Eko and Jin were hiding in the foliage...and speaking of the kids....why didn't Eko mention seeing the children to A.L. and the other tailaways?

The security system doesn't protect the hatch. If that were the case, getting in and out would be much more difficult. So far the only triggers for the security system have been based on movement and quite possibly sound. The best I can come up with is that the Other's are territorial. It's the only thing that explains why they don't venture out to the beach, nobody is being picked off at the hatches, and why Danielle seemed to be fine in her grass hut for 16 years.

i don't know how The Others couldn't leave tracks after we saw the children from the tail section walking with them in the jungle when Eko and Jin were hiding in the foliage...and speaking of the kids....why didn't Eko mention seeing the children to A.L. and the other tailaways?

What makes you think those were the kids? They didn't look like the legs of children.

the teddy bear is why i think it's the kids but they are going thru some kind of accelerated gtrowth.....that will tie in with the explaination of Walt's new growth when he returns, cause i guess he is sprouting like a weed.

Perhaps the others are the children. Living and growing up in a "Lord of the Flies" sort of way, unaffected by the experiments of the Dharma Initiative? Did they escape from this "social-science" experiment. (perhaps families were used in the tests too?)

The orientation tape did actually use the words "social science" too...

I also thought it was children/young kids walking past Mr Eko and Jin when they were hiding. Maybe because they tred more lightly, they leave fewer tracks...