These photos are from the flight of the Oceanic 815. These photos are not doctored.

First comes long smokey (it may take a while before you see this big mama):

http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc119&image=2d8_Longsmoke8.jpg

Then comes the little smokeys going into everyone's oxygen masks (very easy to see these little rats):

http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc267&image=c5b_Minismoke18.jpg


(Disclaimer: If this has been posted before, then my apologies, of course.)

well spotted dude ... never even thought to look ... wonder if this ties in with the theory that the whole thing is staged and the crash didnt really happen

i dont under stand is it like the one where locke went in the hole thing and that thing came up...?

I went back and looked at the scene from Pilot frame by frame and you're right. It looks just like black spheres going up into the masks. It looks very strange. They're everywhere.

OMG!!I have to re-watch the epi now.

EDIT: Well, the pics were very interesting, and had me going for a moment-- but, IMHO, after watching it crash scene frame by frame in both pilot epis, I think smokey is just objects captured as they are being thrown around and filmed by a jerky camera.

Hmmmm....It would be cool if what we are seeing is related to the smoke cloud that was in the Season 2 finale....but I wonder if what we are seeing is some kind of motion artifact from the film/video?!?!?!

Still a very interesting find...Mr.Find!

;) Thanks for sharing!

BTW....this thread is from season 1 and it is full of "smoke" pics from Season 1. It's cool to look and see if they are similar: http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=13725

OMG!!I have to re-watch the epi now.

EDIT: Well, the pics were very interesting, and had me going for a moment-- but, IMHO, after watching it crash scene frame by frame in both pilot epis, I think smokey is just objects captured as they are being thrown around and filmed by a jerky camera.

I think the smokey things look too similar to one another to just be random objects captured by jerky camera.

I know I am supposed to be looking for smoky, but I still do not see EKO anywhere on the plane...

I see absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in either of those pictures. :confused: I suggest you lay off the funny smokies.

i could be wrong, but i think it might be kind of a stretch

I know I am supposed to be looking for smoky, but I still do not see EKO anywhere on the plane...

he would be sitting in the back of the plane which we can't see in these pics...

Look at these in sequence:

http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc118&image=508_Longsmoke29.jpg.jpg

http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc119&image=2d8_Longsmoke8.jpg

http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc267&image=c5b_Minismoke18.jpg


If the long serpent-like smokey in the rear of this seating section is merely bags falling, then why is it that in the final image there are no bags on the floor in that part of the aisle?

As for the little smokeys, these are definitely not digital artifacts. I thought so at first too, but all the images with those in them (there are other ones) have them lining up with the oxygen mask air lines.

Of course Ecko isn't seen on the plane. He wasn't involved in the show when the Pilot was shot. In fact, it's likely that the writers didn't even know his character was going to be a part of the show. Look all you want, but you're not going to find him unless they digitally add him/reshoot scenes. Just because we don't see him doesn't mean he wasn't "on" the plane.

I went back and looked at the scene from Pilot frame by frame and you're right. It looks just like black spheres going up into the masks. It looks very strange. They're everywhere.

Right you are. Quite freaky when you look at the DVD in stop motion and see the spheres appear and then disappear, presumably getting sucked up into the oxygen line.

I probably should have led wirh that image first since it is unambiguous, while the long smokey I have as the first one is debatable.

I wonder how they entered the aircraft? Maybe they were released by a passenger?! Were they able to penetrate the skin of the plane?!?!?

I wonder if it is a sleeping gas or nanotechnology...maybe a hybrid of both?!?!?

Right you are. Quite freaky when you look at the DVD in stop motion and see the spheres appear and then disappear, presumably getting sucked up into the oxygen line.

I probably should have led wirh that image first since it is unambiguous, while the long smokey I have as the first one is debatable.

Pare and Mr. Find- What frames are you looking at on the DVD??? (Time into show?)

The following image makes me think either the smokeys are making their escape or someone just turned on the "No Smoking" sign:

http://img126.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc52&image=f1c_SmokeEscape7.jpg.jpg

Pare and Mr. Find- What frames are you looking at on the DVD??? (Time into show?)

It's in the Pilot episode at about 23.20. Right after when the masks appear from the ceiling.

I also have photographic proof that Smokey was on the plane.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/SurLaTerre/smoke.jpg

I also have photographic proof that Smokey was on the plane.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/SurLaTerre/smoke.jpg


We have a winnah! :laughing:

Su la terre,
Man I was all about to go off on the fact that I see nothing in these photos-its like the magic carpet on the beach that goes into the engine-its nothing, its debris, let it go-but then I saw your photographic evidence and how can I argue w/ that? I mean a picture is worth a thousand words.

Dirty Santchez DeGroot

You're reading to much here, it all means nothing. You can't take every little detail and make a theory of it. None of the redshirts can be seen anywhere on the plane, YET they all appear at the airport, and can be seen boarding the plane. Does that mean the redshirts were flown to the island on a sepereate plane? No, just a produciton goof, like this.

A smokeys-on-the plane believer mentioned the possibility the smokeys were carried on board by a passenger. I think these photos show they, instead, came from the outside and must have seeped into the plane somehow.

Smokeys in the distance.

http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=80a_CharlieFarSmokey0.jpg

http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=d38_CharlieFarSmokey1.jpg

Smokeys close:

http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=0f1_CharlieSemiClose54.jpg

Smokeys real close:

http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=faa_CharlieCloseSmokey50.jpg

http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=0f8_CharlieCloseSmokey51.jpg


I do not believe these are production blotches, as some might suggest. No multi-million dollar network TV show would be allowed on the air with these these black "things" if they were film processing debris or digital artifacts.

I also have photographic proof that Smokey was on the plane.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/SurLaTerre/smoke.jpg


Su La Terre: ROTFLMGO! Did you also see this photographic evidence (http://img281.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ekofall2wk.jpg)that Mr. Eko was on the plane? (be sure to click on it to enlarge and see the details!)

These photos are from the flight of the Oceanic 815. These photos are not doctored.

First comes long smokey (it may take a while before you see this big mama):

http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc119&image=2d8_Longsmoke8.jpg

Then comes the little smokeys going into everyone's oxygen masks (very easy to see these little rats):

http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc267&image=c5b_Minismoke18.jpg


(Disclaimer: If this has been posted before, then my apologies, of course.)

I don't see anything in the first pic. Where should I look?

Su La Terre: ROTFLMGO! Did you also see this photographic evidence (http://img281.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ekofall2wk.jpg)that Mr. Eko was on the plane? (be sure to click on it to enlarge and see the details!)

LOL.....poor Mr. Eko

Su La Terre: ROTFLMGO! Did you also see this photographic evidence (http://img281.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ekofall2wk.jpg)that Mr. Eko was on the plane? (be sure to click on it to enlarge and see the details!)

LMAO!!!

What's that pink gauzy looking thing behind Locke's head?

Su la terre,
Man I was all about to go off on the fact that I see nothing in these photos-its like the magic carpet on the beach that goes into the engine-its nothing, its debris, let it go-but then I saw your photographic evidence and how can I argue w/ that? I mean a picture is worth a thousand words.

Dirty Santchez DeGroot

Yeah, and after all, it IS Friday, and you ain't got s**t to do...

LOL...

Right you are. Quite freaky when you look at the DVD in stop motion and see the spheres appear and then disappear, presumably getting sucked up into the oxygen line.


Fascinating.

They wouldn't be getting sucked up, the pressure on the mask would be out, not in. Which fits better with the idea that they are sentient, not just smoke.

Fascinating.

They wouldn't be getting sucked up, the pressure on the mask would be out, not in. Which fits better with the idea that they are sentient, not just smoke.


Good point. I like how they grow out of thin air (in the images below, observe the sphere on the far right). Perhaps these particles are dispersed in the air and only become visible when they are in a concentrated amount, like when they congregate around the air lines. If this case, its a good bet these particles are all over the place on the Island.


http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc66&image=a8c36_Sphere16.jpg

http://img124.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc48&image=5f85a_Sphere18.jpg.jpg

http://img124.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=709c2_Sphere17.jpg

http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=b55b9_Sphere14.jpg

I just can't figure out how they got there. Airplanes are supposed to be air tight, right?

So, assuming that they weren't on the plane from takeoff, they broke through the wall. I have no idea to what they could be, but their entrance maybe was the cause of the plane breaking in two?

Hmmmm....It would be cool if what we are seeing is related to the smoke cloud that was in the Season 2 finale....but I wonder if what we are seeing is some kind of motion artifact from the film/video?!?!?!

Still a very interesting find...Mr.Find!

;) Thanks for sharing!

BTW....this thread is from season 1 and it is full of "smoke" pics from Season 1. It's cool to look and see if they are similar: http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=13725

Have you actually gone back recently and looked at those pictures from Season 1? When looking at the link that you've attached, I don't know if it's my eyes playing tricks on my but I thought I saw the outline of the black horse in the smoke. http://www.lost-forum.com/showpost.php?p=177825&postcount=1

Sorry. Wrong link. Here's the one where I see the outline of the horse.
http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season1/exodus2/exoduspart2-0618.jpg

Sorry. Wrong link. Here's the one where I see the outline of the horse.
http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season1/exodus2/exoduspart2-0618.jpg


I manipulated the brightness and sharpness of that image with a Windows image program, and what is revealed to be hidden in that image CREEPED ME OUT!!! I am not kidding.

See this image below. After the image opens, remember to click on it to magnify the size.

http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc193&image=58c8f_inthesmoke.jpg.jpg

Are those supposed to be 6 things standing around? They kind of look with the beady little eyes like "Jody" from the original Amityville. That is what my mind sees when you say creeped out. It does kind of look like the profile of a horses head as well.

Are those supposed to be 6 things standing around? They kind of look with the beady little eyes like "Jody" from the original Amityville. That is what my mind sees when you say creeped out. It does kind of look like the profile of a horses head as well.

I see a bunch of stuff, including a horse, an extra-terrestial and Tony Soprano in his trademark white undershirt. Weird.

IMO, in this link it looks more to me like a slight profile of 2 people standing shoulder to shoulder facing towards Jack and faces slightly turned to their left in front of a wall with somewriting scrawled on the back. Dharma perhaps?

http://www.lost-forum.com/showpost.php?p=177825&postcount=1

If you can open this photo in photoshop or something else and look at it in Black and White mode it stands out more. Then again I think it also looks like 2 eyes maybe even like the Oceanic logos in this link.

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=445&pos=7

or even the 2 video monitors in the background of this link

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=289&pos=5

IMO, This is definitely the island in these monitors, but are the monitors watching Jin and his father in law or is his father in law watching the island?

There is ALOT of eye imagery in this show.

Su La Terre: ROTFLMGO! Did you also see this photographic evidence (http://img281.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ekofall2wk.jpg)that Mr. Eko was on the plane? (be sure to click on it to enlarge and see the details!)

Thank you for that picture, I now have coffee all over my monitor.

Thank you for that picture, I now have coffee all over my monitor.

You are welcome! :tomato:

Does anyone have a piece of footage of the crash. Because i really won`t believe it until i see it because it seems like a big leap of faith to just believe.

So, footage anyone?

Much appreciated :)

Dirge,
I REALLY want to believe this theory that smokey brought down the plane and I have watched and rewatched the DVD crash scenes and IMHO it looks like debris flying around inside the fuselage.
HOWEVER, I definately see a smokey hit the turbine when it blows on the beach.

I don`t have the DVD yet but i do have the Lost:Chronicles which contains episode 1. So i`ll take a look at it soon.

I can find you a clip of the black smoke thing making the engine go kaboom, not sure about moving footage of the rest but I'm sure it's out there, gimme a minute I'll find the link and edit my post

I can find you a clip of the black smoke thing making the engine go kaboom, not sure about moving footage of the rest but I'm sure it's out there, gimme a minute I'll find the link and edit my post
Thanks, Richardstone, that would be awesome!!

Hmm, I'd have to watch the sequences to see if they are visible to the naked eye there. You can see a lot of things frame by frame that you are never going to see (or are supposed to see) at normal speed.

At the moment, the blobs look like they have been added in Paint (which isn't what I would expect the production to use for its visual effects).

As to the island on the monitors - it looks like it is being viewed from another island (isn't that some white sand at the bottom) so if it is our island, that would indicate another close by.

I showed the clip of the smokey hitting the engine on the beach to someone and he immediately said that it was a marker for the explosion and he said he sees them all the time. But I still like the idea of the monster being smoke-related, so I'm hanging on to that one :)

Phew, found it....

http://www.lostmysteries.com/1/fog1.html

If nothing happens on the page hit stop and then refresh

Can anyone find other shots, I hear we see the black smoke thing slice the tail from the plane too?

I showed the clip of the smokey hitting the engine on the beach and he immediately said that it was a marker for the explosion and he said he sees them all the time. But I still like the idea of the monster being smoke-related, so I'm hanging on to that one :)

Hey fak who is he?

Hey fak who is he?

Just edited that post. I showed it to someone and he said it was a digital marker :)

I thought all the explosions were real? I can't recall the exact quote but Jorge Garcia talked about it in an episode of Lost in Lost on E4 the other day

I could understand there being a marker if they were going to add some effects in (flying debris?) but even if they did put in a marker, surely they would have taken it out after they'd finished?

Well, i watched first episode and i gotta take my hat off to Mr.Find. That was one hell of a find. I am in fact talking about the black orbs that appear as the oxygen masks fall down. I can`t believe we didn`t notice it before.

Well done ;)

Well, i watched first episode and i gotta take my hat off to Mr.Find. That was one hell of a find. I am in fact talking about the black orbs that appear as the oxygen masks fall down. I can`t believe we didn`t notice it before.

Well done ;)

Heh, I just went round the shop and bought the Season One - Part One DVD (even though I'm waiting for the Complete Series 1 to turn up) so I could mess around and have a look, are those black orb things easy to see Dirge?

I definitely think this is significant, I posted about it on another forum...

"The point is the explosion was real and the black smoke thing was a digital effect, added in afterwards, which would seem to suggest they put it there on purpose

Add that to the fact that the black smoke thing we were meant to see in Exodus part 2 looks very similar to the one that may, or may not be, in the pilot episode equals a good theory"

on the first picture it doesn't look much like smoke it jus looks like the floor :rolleyes:

on the first picture it doesn't look much like smoke it jus looks like the floor :rolleyes:

Yeah I struggled to see that one, I'm just going to watch it so I'll report back if I see anything

For anyone a little sceptical i assure them that these "black orbs" are real. When viewed in normal speed it looks lkike a quick flash of black. But, when paused, we can see a number of black orbs appearing and dissapearing over a selected group of passengers. Also, the smoke trail on the floor surprised me. There definitly is something there and it moves alot like the smoke in Exodus part 2.

But what are the black orbs?, My theory is that it`s marking the passengers that won`t survive the intial crash.

I've watched that scene with the smokey black orbs in freeze frame on DVD. No doubt, they ARE there. This is not a hoax based on doctored screenshots. I am a die hard cynic, but I do believe the orbs have been put in the scene for a deliberate reason that is significant to the plot. Anybody who tries to debunk this theory has either not watched the scene closely on freeze frame, or is arguing for arguements sake. Anyhow...if these "smokies" are moving into the oxygen masks, one would assume that the passengers must have inhaled them as they put the masks on to breathe. Does this mean that the survivors are walking around craphole island, still full of mystic-island smoke, nanobots, shadow wraiths or whatever else it might be?

Hey all. I just re-watched the Pilot 1 & 2 again, and freeze framed it through the fuselage scenes. I see the 2 black orbs appear about the time the oxygen masks go down, but only briefly and do not see it going up the oxygen mask lines.
Help!

OKAY!!!!!!!!

THAT CLUE MAKES THIS PICTURE MAKE COMPLETE SENSE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=737&pos=232

Did Locke look straight at that thing?

I thought all the explosions were real? I can't recall the exact quote but Jorge Garcia talked about it in an episode of Lost in Lost on E4 the other day

I could understand there being a marker if they were going to add some effects in (flying debris?) but even if they did put in a marker, surely they would have taken it out after they'd finished?

The wing exploding was real, but the explosion when the guy is pulled into the engine was done digitally. This is discussed in the Making of the Pilot on the Lost DVDs (at least it is on the first half of Season 1 UK discs). And according to my mate, they get left in a lot, but like I said, I want it to notbe a marker :)

Well, i watched first episode and i gotta take my hat off to Mr.Find. That was one hell of a find. I am in fact talking about the black orbs that appear as the oxygen masks fall down. I can`t believe we didn`t notice it before.

Well done ;)

Thanks. A bit of dumb luck on my part coming across those orbs while examining the scene for something else. No doubt about it, they were put there by the producers for a reason.

Like i said, my theory is that it`s "marking" the people that won`t survive. Pretty scary in my opinion :/

Sorry about the double post :(.


But............

Javi has just shot this theory out of the sky...

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=31301

:(

Sorry about the double post :(.


But............

Javi has just shot this theory out of the sky...

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=31301

:(

Thanks for the link to your post to Javi and his response.

His response, however, does beg this question: Is he saying there is not a shred of truth to your theory of the dots marking the passengers who would not survive, (interesting as that theory is) or the fact that the smokey orbs are there and not by accident?

Javi is great, but I think he is being coy the way he used the word "it" and then didn't elaborate further in his reponse. And who can blame him? I would probaly not even respond back to people, if I was in his shoes (I would be paranoid that I would inadvertently spill all the beans somewhere along the way and be out of a job the next day. :biggrin: )

Good work, Dirge!

No problem

And i agree, i really think there is something going on in the polit episode. But i guess we`ll find out sooner or later.

;)

If this is the same smokey we saw last night, looks like we've seen the monster a little sooner that we thought. It's gotta be the same smokey. It just has to be.

Su La Terre: ROTFLMGO! Did you also see this photographic evidence (http://img281.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ekofall2wk.jpg)that Mr. Eko was on the plane? (be sure to click on it to enlarge and see the details!)

WOW! That is amazing. I particularly liked the font used. What's the name of it so I can download it?

its an original, the lostscape special, its still in the beta stage, but should be finalized soon!!:biggrin:

I didn't see anything

This just shows how much you all waste your time by looking for every single details shot with the camera or made by computer. It's suppose to be visible for the viewer to actually get these kind of 'hints' ;P

One man's "waste" is another man's treasure, or easter egg as the case may be.
Have a nice day!:biggrin:

Lol yeah, definatly ;)