How do you all think Walt's sentense ended? Also, can anyone provide the complete text message chat?

How do you all think Walt's sentense ended? Also, can anyone provide the complete text message chat?

I don't think that we saw the entire message so I will be surprised if anyone has it all... maybe they can do a freeze frame or something and get it I don't know.

But, I think that Walt was telling Michael where to go to get him, and I think that's where Michael is going next week.

So, I have this feeling that Michael is going to "become" one of the Others. I dont mean that literally. I'm just saying he is just getting crazier and crazier, and I think soon (maybe even next week) he is going go break his ties with the group, and become sort of a Danielle type character. I don't really know how likely this is...but I just feel something like that coming...something dealing with Michael and him going CRAZY!

"and get me at ____________" I wonder where the blank is. I guess Walt knew where to tell Michael to go, since the next episode looks like they are going to try and find Walt
There is another post about this, havent read it yet so i dont know if anyone else saw anything that we didnt

The "e" is not shown. We are shown the message, "You need to com."
It could've been a different word than "come." Command, comply, dot-com, etc.

Dad you need to come..ALONE! wait and see how smart i am

Dad you need to come..ALONE! wait and see how smart i am

Lol, that's what I think the complete message would have been.

However, I also like the idea of it being a different word too ... possible sentences:

"You need to compute the numbers together"

"You need to comb the island for me"

"You need to commit the following directions to memory

"You need to communicate with the Others

Well, if we remember, Walt tells them not to push the button, the button is bad. Walt *had* to have been telling Michael where to go, or something about the numbers. Brilliant thing is, it could be *anything.*

I cant get some things straight though.

From one of episode where locke mentioned that they couldnt type anything in until there was 4 minutes left - Michael was able to communicate with walt via the computer

and

Wad are the chances of Walt and michael sitting infront of the computers at the same and typing to each other while the Others were out.

I cant get some things straight though.

From one of episode where locke mentioned that they couldnt type anything in until there was 4 minutes left - Michael was able to communicate with walt via the computer

and

Wad are the chances of Walt and michael sitting infront of the computers at the same and typing to each other while the Others were out.

It's interesting to think of what The Others might be up to and how they can trust Walt to be left on a computer, let alnoe in a Hatch, all alone? Maybe he was convinced to push the button. If so, how was he enabled to wire the computer to communicate with Michael? Oh, the mysteries. ;)

I cant get some things straight though.

From one of episode where locke mentioned that they couldnt type anything in until there was 4 minutes left - Michael was able to communicate with walt via the computer

and

Wad are the chances of Walt and michael sitting infront of the computers at the same and typing to each other while the Others were out.

That's my whole point! Based on that, Walt is communicating telepathicaly in a way that Mike will accept as logical or It's NOT Walt. My bets are hedged on the latter and I believe

that Mike was told to come alone then give a time to wait for a location. He probably gets J & L locked up, gets the location and leaves on his Mission Impossible: da,da, dada,da, da
<Insert Mission Impossible theme here>.

"You need to comb the island for me"



so off topic, but I got a mental image of Michael & Locke walking around the island holding one of those giant combs.

so off topic, but I got a mental image of Michael & Locke walking around the island holding one of those giant combs.

Man, that's just not RIGHT!
<shuttering at visual image as she runs away>

or..... it's "You need to complain with the writers. You haven't had a "They took my son!" line in quite a while now"
Kidding, of course... ;)
I can't wait to see what happens in the next episode :D

Ok, after lots of thought I figured out what I think is exactly what the typist was saying.. now, i'm not going to commit myself to saying the typist was Walt Walt just yet. Though I'm not ruling that out - I still think that there's a strong possibility the typing was another island manifistation at swan station. Based upon everything we saw in this episode, i feel strongly that the message said the following:
Dad you need to comb your hair.
:afro1:

or..... it's "You need to complain with the writers. You haven't had a "They took my son!" line in quite a while now"
Kidding, of course... ;)
I can't wait to see what happens in the next episode :D

"WALLL HA HA ALLLLLLTTTT NNEEEOWWWW!"

:michael:

Dad you need to comb your hair.
:afro1:

Awesome catch! LOL

lol, ok, I take it back... that sounds like something more suited for Hurley & Charlie.

anyhow, I'm not even sure if it is Walt talkin to Michael. All their conversations just seems so casual. I don't know about you but, if I got snatched away from my dad & I started talkin to him again, it'd be more along the lines of "Holy crap, help me".

--good one Lostpack

so off topic, but I got a mental image of Michael & Locke walking around the island holding one of those giant combs.

Yup! A la "Spaceballs" :biggrin:

I don't think its really Walt

Based upon everything we saw in this episode, i feel strongly that the message said the following:Dad you need to comb your hair.

:afro1:

Sick!

For one, I wasn't totally convinced that "m" was the last letter seen. I thought it could have been an "n". So it could have been, you need to con..tact....... When I played it in slow motion, I couldn't see a definite "m".

I don't know, the transcripts aren't up yet on Lostlinks.

I don't think its really Walt

I kind of think so too ... Walt's big thing is "don't push the button", so why would he communicate in a way that requires Michael to push the button?

You need to come to...
...the Black Rock

You need to come to...
...the Black Rock

Except Mike doesn't know where that is and there's a good chance the real Walt wouldn't know that.

They also wouldn't know where the radio tower is either but I would guess that before the other.

When they took Walt off the boat - they tried to kill Micheal, Jin and Sawyer. So why NOW are they talking with Micheal via computer if it is not Walt.

Maybe Walt is not having to be in front of a REAL computer to talk with Micheal - maybe he is doing it telepathic like he did when he showed up for Shannon ??

It's a thought but why communicate telepathically through a computer that you don't want people using?

Walt: Don't push the button! .... Don't open that thing!

It's a thought but why communicate telepathically through a computer that you don't want people using?

Walt: Don't push the button! .... Don't open that thing!


Thanks for spelling that freaking word right .. lol (telepathically) too lazy this day to use spell checker

I feel that the "Don't push the button!" meant the timer thing not actually the computer.

Might be way off base here ( probably am ) but Walt appeared to Shannon visually - maybe she was more open to that sort of form - where as Micheal would be more open to the computer. ??

I reckon it's the Others trying to draw Michael into the open so they can take him. That or Walt has actually learned to use his powers to contact people O_O I think Michael will have a Walt vision at some point soon.

I would have thought that Mike would have been the one MOST open to a vision of Walt. As a mother, I know I would.

I really do not think that it is Walt on the other side of that computer. As posted earlier, the conversations seem far too casual... and grammatically correct. Have you seen the way 12- year-olds type on the internet? Maybe Walt could be one of the few exceptions for it, but it is still a bit too "clean." No "Dad... you have to come to the _____ quick!" No franticness or panic it seems. And why ask if he is alone? That's just even more offbase.

Again, why would this only happen after Michael was asking "Where are you?"

I would have thought that Mike would have been the one MOST open to a vision of Walt. As a mother, I know I would.


I am a mom too - 3 times over and granny 2 times over - but Micheal is a Dad who has not been around his Son much and they have not been close

There are a number of possibilities as to why Michael is being contacted via computer and not by the visions Shannon had.

(1) Shannon kind of freaked out and no one would believe her. She ended up getting shot and who knows maybe that was manipulated by whoever has Walt.

(2) It's possible that some of the Lostaways are more open to Paranormal activities. Michael may be very close minded and too logical to accept a vision of Walt and therefore he sees it as a message on the computer.

What I find interesting is that the only time the computer seems to work is when controlled from a remote site. When Locke and Michael both try the keys nothing happens, yet when contact is established from the outside the keys work. This could all be a form of vision that Walt is using to contact Michael. What I'm saying is that there really isn't anything on the screen. Walt is projecting into Michael's mind and Michael sees it as a chat via computer.

I'm sorting of leaning towards Michael imagining it all. When Jack surprised him, Michael was clearly worried that Jack would see his chat session, but then there wasn't anything on the screen when Jack looked--although it was kind of weird that the screen was completely blank, as if someone turned off the monitor. But we didn't see Michael turn off the monitor and he didn't even have time to get his hands out of typing position before Jack surprised him.

Anyways, if Michael is imagining it, I think he's talking to Walt through the computer because they don't really have good communication with each other. It might be easier for Michael to talk to Walt through a computer than it would be face to face, so maybe that's why he's chatting with Walt through the computer instead of seeing him visually. Of course, it could be that it's pretty hard for the audience to decipher Walt's backspeak in realtime--seeing it on-screen is much easier to comprehend... :biggrin:

If Michael isn't imagining it, then it's the Others luring Michael out and using him as bait so that they can draw out the "strongest threats" from Jack's group. Jack had mentioned a rescue party, but they didn't have a plan yet. So what better way for the Others to eliminate or capture the threats by forcing them out into the open without a plan (or a hastily-constructed one)...

I have the worst feeling the sentence is going to end with A lone and then a location. Micheal is just far enough off the deep end to completely buy in to it.

You need to communicate as often as you can (?)

I have the worst feeling the sentence is going to end with A lone and then a location. Micheal is just far enough off the deep end to completely buy in to it.

I totally agree! It can't be Walt on the computer because there is no way the real Walt would ask 'Are you Alone?' for one of the first things to say! Why would that matter when you're being held captive by crazy people!? It's just too fishy.

"You need to comply with Dr. Candle's rules!! Stop using the computer!" :3:

I kind of think so too ... Walt's big thing is "don't push the button", so why would he communicate in a way that requires Michael to push the button?


Forgive me if this has been discussed in another place... but I always thought that Walt said

"Push the button, good. Dont push the button, bad"

So wouldn't that mean Walt does think pushing the button is good?

I don't think it is Walt on the other side of this chat... it can't be.. it must be a trap. Why would Walt care if Michael was alone?

''You need to come alone'' is definetley the best bet I think

You need to come get me.

If Michael isn't imagining it, then it's the Others luring Michael out and using him as bait so that they can draw out the "strongest threats" from Jack's group. Jack had mentioned a rescue party, but they didn't have a plan yet. So what better way for the Others to eliminate or capture the threats by forcing them out into the open without a plan (or a hastily-constructed one)...

I like that. It reminds me of when Ana shut off the radio when they heard Boone saying it was the Others trying to draw them out. Also, when they first started taking people from the tailies, didn't Goodwin say they started with the strongest and biggest threats before they started taking the children (If I remember that correctly). I find it interesting that it will be Jack, Locke and Sawyer that go after Michael. It would support the theory that the Others are trying to ensnare the alpha males, leaving the rest of the islanders more vulnerable.

For all who wonder why Walt would ask if Michael is alone there is a possibility. Maybe he knows that someone in camp is working with the Others. He doesn't want anyone else to know that they are in communication. We have already seen two instances of the Others trying to infiltrate the groups (Ethan & Goodwin). I'm still very skeptical about how the computer suddenly springs to life. I'm not a computer expert by any stretch but I don't see how someone from a remote location could cause the keyboard to work. They might be able to get the message to appear but how is the keyboard suddenly functional?

First of all, I'm so glad that other people didn't see the end of the sentence either! I thought I just read slow! :)

Walt doesn't necessarily know what happened to Michael, Sawyer, and Jin. The last he saw of them they were floating a long way off the shore, so he might not know that they're inside the hatch. So, if it IS Walt on the computer, I see one of two possibilities: 1) "Are you alone" as in "did Sawyer and Jin survive?" or 2) Walt somehow figured out that Mike made it back to camp OK and knows that an "other" has infiltrated the group again, making it unsafe to communicate openly.

But, I think it's much more likely that the Others are playing to Michael's vulnerability right now and using Walt as bait.

So why did the computer screen turn black before Jack could see it? I think it is b/c Mike is becoming a Sktisophranic and is seeing things that aren't really there. He is communitcating with someone that doesn't exist. You know like "A Beautiful Mind".. Just a thought....

How do the "Others" know that Michael is Walt's dad?How do they know he survived? How do they know he is at the computer in the Swan station?

Unless they have knowledge of everything happening on the Island, I can't see them being able to extrapolate that Michael is Walt's father just because he typed his name in response to the question. Many people had been manning the computer prior to Michael's arrival, why wasn't there any attempt to communicate before.

IMHO, the two most likely scenarios are Walt is communicating with Michael telepathically on a manner Michael can understand, Michael is hallucinating or the "Island" is implanting these thoughts into his mind in a manner similar to what happened to Jack seeing his father.

How do the "Others" know that Michael is Walt's dad?How do they know he survived? How do they know he is at the computer in the Swan station?

Unless they have knowledge of everything happening on the Island, I can't see them being able to extrapolate that Michael is Walt's father just because he typed his name in response to the question. Many people had been manning the computer prior to Michael's arrival, why wasn't there any attempt to communicate before.

IMHO, the two most likely scenarios are Walt is communicating with Michael telepathically on a manner Michael can understand, Michael is hallucinating or the "Island" is implanting these thoughts into his mind in a manner similar to what happened to Jack seeing his father.

Based on what we have seen with the others having lots of data on the tail enders, and since Ethan was probably giving info to the others, I would have to assume that the others would certainly know that Walt is Michael son..

Oh yeah plus the fact when they kidnapped him he was screaming "DAD" "DAD" as they drove away..

Remember the "Others" have control of the radio tower, which I assume is in the main communication complex so they could very know everything that goes out on the computer as well as have a video feed of the terminal and whose at it.

I think he said you need to come get me alone do not bring anyone else!!! spooky

You need to come bah yo self, homie, dig? ;)

The computer keyboard may be locked from the "Radio Tower", if it is a site for communication they may be able to control the whole of the communication for the whole island from the 1 tower, if so then they could then decide when that computer can be used or not,

Also, the computer keyboard comes active when there are 4 mins left to enter the code, maybe you can start to communicate when those 4 mins start and then stop once the code is entered and this could be why he only has time for short messages

we dont know how advance the dhamra projects computer systems were for there day, they may have been able to do things the we could not,

also just wondering if anyone thought Walt be with the other kids as well if he has been taken by the same others surely all captives would be held at the same place !!!,

one more question, how did Ethan and Goodwin get to the crash sites on dif sides of the island so quickly !!!! unless they expected them to crash !!!

Also, the computer keyboard comes active when there are 4 mins left to enter the code, maybe you can start to communicate when those 4 mins start and then stop once the code is entered and this could be why he only has time for short messages


Michael has only communiated with Walt from between 45 minutes and 55 minutes left on the clock, give or take a few, respectively. I wonder if there is anything siginifcant about that time period (i.e., other ouside communication possible.)

I cant get some things straight though.

From one of episode where locke mentioned that they couldnt type anything in until there was 4 minutes left - Michael was able to communicate with walt via the computer

and

Wad are the chances of Walt and michael sitting infront of the computers at the same and typing to each other while the Others were out.


I myself am wondering if he's just imagining the whole thing. The screen was completely blank when they showed a shot over his shoulder at one point. Not even a blinking cursor.

You need to come get down with it, bru-tha.

I think he said you need to come get me alone do not bring anyone else!!! spooky
Honestly, that is EXACTLY what I thought the remainder of the sentence would be. For some reason I am having a hard time believing that Walt is on the other side of that cpu. I know crazier things have happened on the island, but the idea just doesn't sit well with me. I am of the opinion that Mike is SUPER stressed, guilt ridden, and having some sort of mental breakdown. And I don't think he told Jack about the little communique because for some unknown, ultra-frustrating reason NO ONE ON THE ISLAND TALKS TO EACHOTHER! :biggrin:
I am up in the air, but I think that Michael is either
A) being targeted by the 'others' as vulnerable b/c of Walt's abduction or
B) folding under the stress and guilt and having a mental breakdown.
Guess we'll find out soon enough. On a side note I am SOOO glad that we are back to new episodes weekly! :biggrin:

I want to know how the warning on the orientation video not to use the computer to communicate fits into all of this. So if it really is the Others luring Michael into a trap, that means the Dharma Initiative is at odds with The Others. And why was that film strip moved to a different hatch unless someone wanted to computer used for communication.

Up until now, I had assumed The Others and the Hanso Foundation were one and the same, but I seriously doubt that now.

It could very well be real and could be a trick by Dharma or The Others or someone who knows his son was kidnapped to see if they'd abandon pressing the button and leave the Hatch, possibly?

Here`s my thoughts on where he wanted Michael to go.
Small spoilers....


Well, my initial thought would be that he wanted him to come to a certain location deep into the island. And as we see in the preview for the next episode, we can see Michael doing just that.

But come where?

I`m betting on the communications tower ;)

I'm only halfway through this thread and i'm not sure if this is addressed later on I just don't have time to read through 45 posts..:)

Is it definete what walt said the first time..? I heard he said "Push the button, don't push the button. Bad"

I took that as whatever you do it's bad to be in the hatch and that is why he freaked out and told Locke not to open it even thought he had no idea about the hatch....

any thoughts...?

Thanks for spelling that freaking word right .. lol (telepathically) too lazy this day to use spell checker

I feel that the "Don't push the button!" meant the timer thing not actually the computer.

Might be way off base here ( probably am ) but Walt appeared to Shannon visually - maybe she was more open to that sort of form - where as Micheal would be more open to the computer. ??

Ok, not sure if any of youguys have thought of this (1st post so bare with me), but there are two theories that could be interesting

1: Shannons visions were real, walt escaped and is hiding out in one of the other Dharma stations, using the pc to communicate with his father after seing his stations init film. He asks are you alone because one of the lostaways is infact a spy. (Sayid?)

2: It is not walt at all, and the com is infact a .com computer file extention with a ghosted . This would mean that the others had executed a dos command on their pc, possibly to stop them entering the numbers properly or something?

Here`s my thoughts on where he wanted Michael to go.
Small spoilers....


Well, my initial thought would be that he wanted him to come to a certain location deep into the island. And as we see in the preview for the next episode, we can see Michael doing just that.

But come where?

I`m betting on the communications tower ;)

Yeah, that would be need to see The Radio Tower. I'd liek to see them roll back around to that eventually. And soon! :D

In
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=32096&page=25
there is a discussion about whether or not the conversation was real or imagined, please join if you have any thoughts.

I cant get some things straight though.....
what are the chances of Walt and michael sitting infront of the computers at the same and typing to each other while the Others were out.


That is why I think it is a "setup" to lure Micheal and then the rest of the group to where the "others" are...which I believe will be the site/command center of the Dharma island experiment...the older now kinda crazy Degroots

I'll bet anything that "You need to come" ends "... alone" as a previous poster mentioned. I'll also bet that it is the scene that starts off this upcoming episode, which sends Michael into a psychotic episode toward the rest of the group as alluded to in the previews... going "all commando" (according to Hurley).

I'm so sure of it I'll parlay it with the Steelers in the Superbowl and bet my next 10 paychecks on it. I'll be sipping mai-tais with the cast in Hawaii by next month.

I'll bet anything that "You need to come" ends "... alone" as a previous poster mentioned. I'll also bet that it is the scene that starts off this upcoming episode, which sends Michael into a psychotic episode toward the rest of the group as alluded to in the previews... going "all commando" (according to Hurley).

I'm so sure of it I'll parlay it with the Steelers in the Superbowl and bet my next 10 paychecks on it. I'll be sipping mai-tais with the cast in Hawaii by next month.

Okay, I'll bet you my research island off the coast of Africa. But, if you win, I need you to go there and push a button every once in a while. No questions asked.

Why do we all assume that it is indeed Walt typing?

From one of episode where locke mentioned that they couldnt type anything in until there was 4 minutes left...

If this is true, then how all of the sudden can Michael be talking to Walt? Could he maybe be hallucinating?

Why do we all assume that it is indeed Walt typing?

From one of episode where locke mentioned that they couldnt type anything in until there was 4 minutes left...

If this is true, then how all of the sudden can Michael be talking to Walt? Could he maybe be hallucinating?

There are many threads on this. Here's one:
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=32097
:rolleyes:

How could they be IM'ing each other with an old apple that would nvr have been able to be connected to the internet .!!!

Think about that!!!!!

Unless they have a wire connected to each other like the mysterious one on the beach near rousseau.

Another bit of info.

Hooah!!! :wine:

Its just not walt. it cant be walt. unless the others are letting him talk to michael to lure him to wherever!