Charlie and her overdose on heroin. *EDIT*. Mistakenly shot by Ana Lucia. Hung by the "Others". "Rescued" by Danielle. Given food poisoning by Sun and Jin. Eaten by a polar bear. Gored by a boar. Knifed by Locke. Shot by Sayid. Drowned trying to save Aaron. *EDIT*. Cuse makes a special appearance and shoots her. Electrocuted by lightning. Crushed in a bear hug with Hurley.

*MOD EDIT*

:cnfused1:

ummm ... define "comical" again ... :confused:

:cnfused1:

ummm ... define "comical" again ... :confused:

Well I guess it depends on your perspective. :smile:

Kate then goes out and commits suicide.
Oh yes, suicide is always so very funny. I guess my "perspective" of comical is totally off base. My bad.

Charlie and her overdose on heroin. *EDIT*. Mistakenly shot by Ana Lucia. Hung by the "Others". "Rescued" by Danielle. Given food poisoning by Sun and Jin. Eaten by a polar bear. Gored by a boar. Knifed by Locke. Shot by Sayid. Drowned trying to save Aaron. *EDIT*. Cuse makes a special appearance and shoots her. Electrocuted by lightning. Crushed in a bear hug with Hurley.

*MOD EDIT*

You're obvious hatred for the Kate charecter is noted. I wouldn't have had as big a problem with this if he hadn't been all over the board yesterday with much of the same things and you had been told to tone it down.

This is a family board. You want her dead? Fine...keep it comical but you crossed the line with a few of them hence the edit..I have made similar edits in other "I'm not into you" threads just so you know I am not picking on you.

The thread is still open but dangling over the cliff...and keep it mind..it's not your perspective as to what it comical..it's the mods.

She goes and rubs Vincent and Vincent licks her hand, a few moments later Kate collapses and dies.

Jack performs an autopsy and confirms what they all feared Vincent is evil and poisoned Kate.

[quote=Baileysdad;711100]You're obvious hatred for the Kate charecter is noted. I wouldn't have had as big a problem with this if he hadn't been all over the board yesterday with much of the same things and you had been told to tone it down.

This is a family board. You want her dead? ....quote]

I don't hate Kate at all. In fact I kind of like her if only for her gutsy behavior. But like every other character on Lost she is flawed. She is a woman who uses men even if not intentionally. She is very attractive and men will do things to please her or get her favor even if it is not in their best interest. (e.g.her boyfriend who was with her when she was trying to escape the cops and was inadvertently killed when she crashed. Kate did not want that to happen but it was her reckless behavior that led to his death.).

If this is a family board then IMHO the hate threads should be eliminated completely. The word "hate" is such a strong word. How can anyone hate someone?

I strongly disliked Shannon when she was on the show because of her character being a selfish, egotistical, whining, stereotypical dumb blond brat. But I never hated her. She was just rather annoying and not a character I would want to know.

I felt really sympathy for Maggie Grace for the tough situation she was in playing a character that a lot of people did not like. That is a hard place to be in as I am sure Michelle Rodriguez is experiencing now. However, I understand it takes a real talent as an actor to portray a character that people dislike. Everyone wants to be liked and for Maggie this was a real challenge. I only hope her experience on Lost will do much to help her obtain future roles in whatever acting she does.

I did not put my empathy for Maggie's character on hiatus by not trying to understand how she became the character she did. When we found out her step mother had conveniently got her disinherited, then of course, you could understand her behavior and her attitude.

There are a lot of people who disliked Sayid last year because he was a member of the Republican Guard but I personally am curious about people different than myself. Everyone knows one person's guerilla is another person's freedom fighter.

Evangeline Lily is by all accounts a wonderful person who is trying to learn her craft as an actress. The writers purposely make these characters not perfect...flawed in a sense. To be flawed is to be human. No one is perfect. :smile:

By the way, one of the themes of Lost appears to be the idea of redemption. All of the characters have things in their past they have done wrong (e.g. kill innocent people) but the Island gives them a chance to redeem themselves by taking a different path to help each other and survive. Locke believes his life was wasted due to his paralysis and now plays a vital role in helping the others. Jack was not "good enough" in his father's eyes when he was young and he feels guilty over his choice to not cover up his Dad's drunkenness as a surgeon which led to his Dad losing his license to practice medicine. However, on the island he is a leader who feels responsible for the others. He is rising to the occasion of "good enough". Many people Kate cared about were killed through their assocation with her but on the island she has the opportunity to help the others around her. Sayid killed hundreds of innocent civilians during the Iraqi war but his expertise in communications on the island is invaluable. Everyone in the island has an opportunity to start over as long as they can face their demons of the past in "the monster" and make different choices. :)

Oh yes, suicide is always so very funny. I guess my "perspective" of comical is totally off base. My bad.

You are absolutely right. Suicide is not funny. Sorry!:frown:

She goes and rubs Vincent and Vincent licks her hand, a few moments later Kate collapses and dies.

Jack performs an autopsy and confirms what they all feared Vincent is evil and poisoned Kate.

LOL! That one is funny! :biggrin:

[quote=Baileysdad;711100]If this is a family board then IMHO the hate threads should be eliminated completely. The word "hate" is such a strong word. How can anyone hate someone?

PA..

A very good point and one that was discussed at length by all the mods today.

There are technically no "hate" threads..they are listed as "I am not that into you" and it is the posters who toss the hate word around.

After much discussion, it was decided we should trust the posters that they won't go over the edge with some of their "Not liking" thoughts...we will, however..be placing a HUGE disclaimer on the top of them regarding content and letting people know certain things are not going to be allowed and no warnings will be issued ...just points...

If it continues down the road of hate...then we will re-evaluate it again.

Thank you for your thoughts on this...:smile:

[quote=Princess Arwen;711914]

PA..

A very good point and one that was discussed at length by all the mods today.

There are technically no "hate" threads..they are listed as "I am not that into you" and it is the posters who toss the hate word around.

After much discussion, it was decided we should trust the posters that they won't go over the edge with some of their "Not liking" thoughts...we will, however..be placing a HUGE disclaimer on the top of them regarding content and letting people know certain things are not going to be allowed and no warnings will be issued ...just points...

If it continues down the road of hate...then we will re-evaluate it again.

Thank you for your thoughts on this...:smile:

Not to be argumentative but if this is a "family board" the younger posters do not necessarily have the life experience to make a distinction between "I am not that into you" and "I hate you". As adults we can make that distinction quite easily but younger people see the world more in black and white than grays. ***REMOVED BY MOD***

While you might think this is an extreme example I beg to differ if only by reading our nationwide headlines. Hate begets violence and vice versa.

***REMOVED BY MOD***

I have great respect for your position. I only ask that you take these things into consideration. A family board IMHO should not be promoting hate and to allow the threads to be called "hate" threads speaks volumes for itself despite the caveat and fine print you point to.

By the way, you can erase my "hate" thread on Kate. As previously mentioned I don't hate her. I see her as flawed but so is everyone else on the island. :smile: Kate is a wonderful character and Evangeline Lily is a great person. She is trying to find some sense in a world that sometimes make no sense at all. To fault her for being human would be an error in my judgment. :smile:

***MOD-edited by hijinx: Besides the OBVIOUS off-topicness, this post is being reported for the tasteless comments discussing acts of violence that occurred in the U.S., and for posting accusations of racism with the intent to inflame other members/MODs/Admins of the board.***

Do you want me to close your thread, or completely erase it??

Oddly enough, the original thread dedicated to the indespensible AL still runs strong. Hmm...

Accidental tourist: I was referring to Princess Arwen's last post where she asks a mod to delete her "The official Kate hate club"-thread... not this thread.

I personally dont believe it is a good thing to discuss comical ways to kill any character. Who is thinking up this stuff anyway? Are we that bored that we are entertaining ourselves with sick ways to kill a character? I think that posts of this nature should not be permitted on this board, family or not, its just sick.

Not to be argumentative but if this is a "family board" the younger posters do not necessarily have the life experience to make a distinction between "I am not that into you" and "I hate you". As adults we can make that distinction quite easily but younger people see the world more in black and white than grays. ***REMOVED BY MOD***

While you might think this is an extreme example I beg to differ if only by reading our nationwide headlines. Hate begets violence and vice versa.

***REMOVED BY MOD***

I have great respect for your position. I only ask that you take these things into consideration. A family board IMHO should not be promoting hate and to allow the threads to be called "hate" threads speaks volumes for itself despite the caveat and fine print you point to.

By the way, you can erase my "hate" thread on Kate. As previously mentioned I don't hate her. I see her as flawed but so is everyone else on the island. :smile: Kate is a wonderful character and Evangeline Lily is a great person. She is trying to find some sense in a world that sometimes make no sense at all. To fault her for being human would be an error in my judgment. :smile:

***MOD-edited by hijinx: Besides the OBVIOUS off-topicness, this post is being reported for the tasteless comments discussing acts of violence that occurred in the U.S., and for posting accusations of racism with the intent to inflame other members/MODs/Admins of the board.*** While this is most certainly a "Family Board", the Site Rules clearly state that anyone under the age of 13 year is not permitted to use it or read it. It is generally believed that anyone over that age posting here, and watching Lost (which I believe has a "TV 14" rating attached to it in the United States, and similar guidelines Worldwide) is entirely capable of differentiating between a Character on a Television Show, and the Actor or Actress that portays them.

We make that same distinction here on the board - while we do accomodate members who wish to express and discuss their dislike (or hatred, as you so pointedly pick upon) of the shows characters, we do NOT tolerate any personal attacks, violation of privacy, death threats, or expressions of hatred towards the Actors or Actresses.

The term "Family Board" is Fuselage favourite, and has great history going back to our parent site at the Bronze Beta. :) If ever someone posted something a little risque or sexual-innudendo-ish, the regulars would *bap* them on the head with a large *FAMILY BOARD* sign. Of course such traditions, and self-policing sentiments, are easily lost amongst the large population of the Threaded addition of the site, and generally such cheeky comments are enjoyed in good humour - so long as they do not go as far as to breach site rules. Then the Mods come out and *bap* people over the head with Warnings.:D

Similarly, when negative comments about characters go too far - for example crossing the line into directing attacks or personal remarks agsints the Actors/Actresses, the Mods must deal with any breach of the rules. Sadly a "self-policing "system does not work on a board with so many members, especially with so many seemingly only interested in arguing and attacking people. :(

I am unsure of other fansite's policies on such, but as The Fuselage was created by request of the Lost Creative Team, we endeavour to be the best, as well as the busiest, and so we set strong policies and posting guidelines in order to provide the best posting experience possible.

Just as personal attacks, insults, and flamings are not permitted against other poster here, personal attacks, insults, and flamings against the Actors and Actresses are not permitted. It is not any kind of "censorship", it is simply the Site Rules.


Racism has nothing to do with it, and your insinuations of such are ridiculous.

The simple, single reason that there are so many fans who dislike Ana-Lucia, and who have strong opinions on the character that they wish to express, is because the Writers have done such an excellent job in creating a character that illicits such a stong response. Many shows and movies have characters that some "love to hate", or even "hate to love", and Lost has certainly developed such character in the shape of Ana-Lucia. Whether she is Hispanic or not is entirely irrelevant - if this board was racist, as you insinuate, then by your logic there woul be numerous threads hating on Sayid, Michael, Jin, Sun, Rose, and Hurley to similar extents, and um, there are not. The people who "hate" Ana-Lucia do so because the character has provoked a strong reaction withion them - not because the colour of her skin or her ethnic background may differ to their own.

We allow negative threads on any and all characters, episodes, and elements of the show, just as we allow positive ones - so long as posts made do not breach the rules.


I am glad you respect Baileysdad's position. He's had a lot of new Mini Mod work to do recently so it's nice to see that he is appreciated. :)

Again, we do not promote hate, in any way whatsoever. We review the threads in the "Not That Into You" sections for rule-breaking posts. The fandom is filled with people of differening opinions and poins of view, and our policy is to allow expresion and discussion of the show and it's characters, be it positive or negative. To only allow positive threads would be unfair and would elicit critsism of censorhip and accusations of being a a "brown nosed" site (epscially given the sponsorship by JJ and his team).


Um... If you now wish us to delete your "hate" thread on Kate, then, um... why did you make it in the first place? Especially if you don't hate character!?! Surely requesting that we do that only promotes assumptions that you created the thread as a "Mirror" of the Ana-Lucia "hate" thread, purely to mock other poster and cause disruption in the character boards? Or have I misunderstood? :confused:

In any case, I see no reason to close or delete the thread, so long as the posting remains focused on the characters and not the actors. :)

Can we just get back to making up comical ways for kate to die now.

[quote=Baileysdad;712140]

Not to be argumentative but if this is a "family board" the younger posters do not necessarily have the life experience to make a distinction between "I am not that into you" and "I hate you". As adults we can make that distinction quite easily but younger people see the world more in black and white than grays. ***REMOVED BY MOD***

While you might think this is an extreme example I beg to differ if only by reading our nationwide headlines. Hate begets violence and vice versa.

***REMOVED BY MOD***

I have great respect for your position. I only ask that you take these things into consideration. A family board IMHO should not be promoting hate and to allow the threads to be called "hate" threads speaks volumes for itself despite the caveat and fine print you point to.

By the way, you can erase my "hate" thread on Kate. As previously mentioned I don't hate her. I see her as flawed but so is everyone else on the island. :smile: Kate is a wonderful character and Evangeline Lily is a great person. She is trying to find some sense in a world that sometimes make no sense at all. To fault her for being human would be an error in my judgment. :smile:

***MOD-edited by hijinx: Besides the OBVIOUS off-topicness, this post is being reported for the tasteless comments discussing acts of violence that occurred in the U.S., and for posting accusations of racism with the intent to inflame other members/MODs/Admins of the board.***


Moving right along....Kate could slip on a banana peel, hit her head and die. LOL! :biggrin:

I don't think that will be a problem...if it is..let us know.:smile:

I personally dont believe it is a good thing to discuss comical ways to kill any character. Who is thinking up this stuff anyway? Are we that bored that we are entertaining ourselves with sick ways to kill a character? I think that posts of this nature should not be permitted on this board, family or not, its just sick.

I totally agree!!! :smile:

I just wanted to say that this is proably the most entertaining thread I have seen yet.
Keep up the good work, Princess Arwen and Mods alike!

maybe she could get clocked in the head with a golf ball.

Maybe Alex should kill her, and then the Losties kill Alex, right in front of Danielle?

locking thread...we tried leaving these open, and although this one has not gone to the excesses of the other one, it seems these threads are for now open invitations to attempt to outdo each other in the offensiveness department.