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Dr. Ironic
01-13-2005, 09:21 AM
I apologize if someone has already covered this in another post, but I haven't had the chance to read all *500* posts that have already gone up since last night. :)

But anyway, I think that Locke's vision showed him the battle to come. He probably saw who was on what side, and probably saw that there would be lots of death to come. But most importantly, he was shown leading the forces. This would be his greatest dream come true.

I think this totally ties in with Locke's wargaming in his flashback. He will be the one moving the pieces for the (hopefully) good guys on the island. He's the colonel! But anyone who plays any wargames (the board kind) knows you have to set up your pieces and get everything just right before the battle begins.

Locke has seen the battle and is preparing the way for those that will be on HIS side.

Doc.

lostmillennium
01-13-2005, 09:23 AM
I like it.

themarvelousmattyd
01-13-2005, 09:27 AM
Though i don't agree 100%, I do agree to a large extent... I don't know what you saw, but I def think that the wargames thing and his ops with charlie, boone, and jack are all evidences of the 'colonel' persona becoming stronger in him.

WhiteSapphire
01-13-2005, 11:26 AM
I was thinking along the same lines . . . that Locke saw himself as the leader among the survivors.

Maybe he also saw the survivors setting up a perfect society on the island.

I really, really want to know what he did see though!

Honbun26
01-13-2005, 11:29 AM
I like how you tied in Locke's game playing with his life on the island now. It definately fits in with what has been going on.

creme
01-13-2005, 12:36 PM
Makes sense to me.

darkpiranha
01-13-2005, 04:47 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the last episode of the season is a Locke flashback, where we see him flashing back to his dream, and then acting on it. i.e. the time has come to start the war. Or else we see him take command, and at the same time, we see him flashing back to his vision where we see WHY he is doing what he is doing.

And I think it's a great observation tying in Locke's game playing with his vision and what he is doing on the island.

DP.

babygotbackgammon
01-13-2005, 04:54 PM
I don't think Locke thinks of himself as a leader, considering he's the ONE person who has been so adamant in encouraging JACK to step up to a leadership role. He obviously knows there's something going on, no doubt, but it seems pretty clear that he doesn't intend to be a leader.

darkpiranha
01-13-2005, 04:59 PM
He obviously knows there's something going on, no doubt, but it seems pretty clear that he doesn't intend to be a leader.


Good point. Mayhaps a better description would be that he will be the strategist behind the scenes, the general as it were, leaving the leadership to Jack.

OR... if Locke turns out to be the bad guy, perhaps he is setting Jack up to be his opponent. When you are playing a game, you want someone to compete against that is of comparable skill.

There more I think about it, the more I think that Locke's war game background was significant.

DP.

baryonyx
01-13-2005, 05:18 PM
Hmmm... well, considering this, if the vision is indeed the case, then maybe Locke is grooming Jack because Locke knows he will not be around to lead the group when the time comes. That is, when the time for whatever is about to begin arrives, Locke is dead. He is using the time and knowledge he has, given to him by the island, to prepare everyone else, so when he is gone, they can succeed?

darkpiranha
01-13-2005, 05:32 PM
Hmmm.... I like that! I think Locke's grandest dream is to be IMPORTANT, and to matter. Sacrificing himself for the greater good would be right up his alley. If he truly HAS seen the coming battle, he will be excited about his part in it.

All the stuff we saw about Locke in his previous life showed that he LONGED for nobility. By that, I mean that he wanted his life to match his vision of chivalry and knight's honor and purity. His conversation with the phone sex girl (or whatever she was) showed that he wanted that relationship to be pure. In his own mind, it WAS pure.

Actually, this sort of reminds me of a Sci-Fi/Fantasy series I read called the Pliocene Exile series by Julian May. The relevant part to my analogy is that the main characters all were trying to escape the modern world where they didn't fit by going back in time through a portal to six million years earlier (it makes much more sense in the context of the book, trust me!). All these people were misfits in the modern world, but in this other time, their more outdated sensibilities made them fit in and actually become important.

Locke's natural belief system, which is ridiculed in the real world, makes him the top dog on the island.

DP

creme
01-14-2005, 01:27 PM
I don't think Locke thinks of himself as a leader, considering he's the ONE person who has been so adamant in encouraging JACK to step up to a leadership role. He obviously knows there's something going on, no doubt, but it seems pretty clear that he doesn't intend to be a leader.


As I see it, that is one strategic leadership tool. Locke is an "influence peddler". With a visible man as the figurehead for leadership (hence the one who appears to take responsibility and the fallout for it) Locke is free to peddle his influence - both on the figurehead and on the others around him. It's a diversion tactic.