But what did he get shot with? I doubt it was a gun, lol. A dart maybe?

Anyone have screen caps?

Discuss. :smile:

I was wondering about this, too. All I know is that it couldn't have been a gun. Anyone have any idea?

Awwww, I know! The poor guy doesn't really have much luck when he's in the woods, lol ... he's either being shot, stabbed, hit with a rock, or punched around by an ex-cop with anger management issues

I thought he got beaned with a rock. Kinda sounded like something from a slingshot...remember when Ethan popped Jin on the noggin when he wanted to have a chat with ole Charlie? whoosh....whoosh....whoosh....bonk!
Actually, that's not a slingshot, I dunno what it is. Whatever David used to kill Goliath 'lo those many years ago.

Awwww, I know! The poor guy doesn't really have much luck when he's in the woods, lol ... he's either being shot, stabbed, hit with a rock, or punched around by an ex-cop with anger management issues

lol :biggrin:

I thought he got beaned with a rock. Kinda sounded like something from a slingshot...remember when Ethan popped Jin on the noggin when he wanted to have a chat with ole Charlie? whoosh....whoosh....whoosh....bonk!
Actually, that's not a slingshot, I dunno what it is. Whatever David used to kill Goliath 'lo those many years ago.

But he bled...Would a rock cause bleeding like that? I would think no..

Seems that's Sawyer's thing...getting shot. He may need to look into some full body armor soon ;)

lol :biggrin:



But he bled...Would a rock cause bleeding like that? I would think no..

Definitly. I am an E.R. nurse. We see kids all the time that get hit with rocks..usually just thrown by other kids...not jettisoned from a sling. A hard, jagged rock can do plenty of damage and head wounds bleed copious amounts.

Seemed to me like he was intentionally grazed by a bullet, which also (as some others have stated) points to someone with sniper skills.

Seemed to me like he was intentionally grazed by a bullet, which also (as some others have stated) points to someone with sniper skills.


I didn't hear any shot. All I heard was a "thunk" and Sawyer grabbed his ear.
Then again, could be they have silencers. I am clueless.

I remember speculation re silencers after Sawyer was shot on the raft.
Why they would need them, who knows?!

They didn't use silencers earlier, assuming the other 4 shots weren't from Michael..

EDIT: This doesn't sound right but I'm too lazy to fix it, lol

Before this episode aired it was mentioned in spoilerish form that Sawyer was shot...

If that helps.

He's the island's 50 Cent.

He's the island's 50 Cent.

Hmmmm... well, then, if we're very lucky and good girls, they'll make a movie about his life and he'll star in it :)

I was under the impression that Sawyer's shot ricoshayed off the guy and hit him... It make a sound like it hit metal when he pulled the trigger, the sound resulted in his hit......

I was under the impression that Sawyer's shot ricoshayed off the guy and hit him... It make a sound like it hit metal when he pulled the trigger, the sound resulted in his hit......

Bounced off what guy?

I was under the impression that Sawyer's shot ricoshayed off the guy and hit him... It make a sound like it hit metal when he pulled the trigger, the sound resulted in his hit......

My first reaction was that Sawyer fired a shot, and it ricocheted (sp?)- off of the bearded man. I would need to see it again, but im almost 100% sure that Sawyer stepped up, raised his gun, and pulled the trigger- which is EXACTLY what you would expect from him. He was there to retaliate.

But something weird happened. That guy didn't flinch, and the bullet, as far as I could tell, bounced the f off him!

My first reaction was that Sawyer fired a shot, and it ricocheted (sp?)- off of the bearded man. I would need to see it again, but im almost 100% sure that Sawyer stepped up, raised his gun, and pulled the trigger- which is EXACTLY what you would expect from him. He was there to retaliate.

But something weird happened. That guy didn't flinch, and the bullet, as far as I could tell, bounced the f off him!Thats exactly what I thought too. Reading this thread made me go back and watch the scene again.
Bearded guy yells "Why don't you point the gun down" as
Sawyer stepped up, and out of the right channel speaker you can hear a gunshot.
Sawyer was in view when you hear the shot so if it was him you would hear it out of the center channel.
Also you don't see his gun actually fire.
Then you see Jack and company looking around in the woods and then the camera scans the woods from their p.o.v. showing nothing but trees.
I think when bearded guy yelled that it was to alert his gunman.
Plus, afterwards, Jack said "I think you've got one guy up there with a gun" just before he said "I think theres more of us than there are of you"
Definitely shot

My first reaction was that Sawyer fired a shot, and it ricocheted (sp?)- off of the bearded man. I would need to see it again, but im almost 100% sure that Sawyer stepped up, raised his gun, and pulled the trigger- which is EXACTLY what you would expect from him. He was there to retaliate.

But something weird happened. That guy didn't flinch, and the bullet, as far as I could tell, bounced the f off him!


I was under the impression that this is what happened too....Sawyer shot at Seabilly and it "bounced" off him. Very weird.....

I thought this played into the scene later when Jack was talking to AL on the beach. He asked her if she was sure that she killed one of them. He wants to know what she did so he can do the same....

I think it was a gun with a silencer. Sounded exactly like that. I'm assuming if Sawyer got a shot off that he missed and didn't hit anything.

I was confused by that scene. My first impression was that Sawyer tried to shoot the breaded guy and it bounced off him. Like he had a protective sheild. It could have been me watching when I was tired. Haven't had a chance to watch it again. I suppose Sawyer could have raised his gun and then someone shot at him before he got one off.

They're Voodoo people. LOL

But this time the bullet only strafed him...that only happens to real hero's!!! lol

I know people are going to get sick of my Purgatory references, but here I go again...

I agree with the concept of the bullet bouncing off of Zeke. If they are on the (Purgatory) island as the judges of the Lostaways, wouldn't it make sense that they are somehow protected? I think that he deflected it to graze Sawyer because it is not Sawyer's time yet...but used in a way to let him know who is really in charge.

The only concern I have with this theory is, if the Others are protected, how was Ana Lucia able to kill what she believed was an Other?

I think that there are actually two Other groups on the island. The Others that are the judgers (Zeke and his pack) and Ethan and whomever may be part of his group as tormentors. The Other A.L. killed would have been a tormentor, not a judger.

The Lostaways have significant choices to make along their Path, some good, some evil. If they do what they are supposed to, they will eventually be rewarded. If they do wrong (attempt to be destructive, go to the wrong side of the island) they will be judged accordingly.

HAK

that was confusing; i thought that sawyer shot at zeke, and that it richocheted back and hit him instead. maybe zeke has some wonder woman style cuffs that deflect bullets? that would be rad, others with super powers!

Sawyer never shot, the shot came from the woods. On the boat, the guy next to Zeke pulled a gun before Sawyer could shoot. Don't think there is much to forcefields.

Side note, does Sawyer getting shot, punched, stabbed give anyone else flashbacks to Boone (rest his ficticious soul) and how no matter how hard he tried, kept getting the snot knocked out of him. Michael pinned him in a heartbeat. Charlie just laughed him off. It was always fun for me to see at what point in the episode Boone was going to get pimp slapped.

Sawyer never shot, the shot came from the woods. On the boat, the guy next to Zeke pulled a gun before Sawyer could shoot. Don't think there is much to forcefields.

i agree.. sawyer's gun would have definately made a much louder noise than what we heard..

Sawyer was shot by one of the others that were surrounding them. Remember, Jack made the comment that he believes there is only Zeke and one other guy out there with a gun.

sawyer is a slow draw. that man is gonna get shot every time. hes a bullet magnet. he would best serve the group as the cook

Sawyer, shot in the ear. I hope they give him a busted ear prosthesis. I think that would rock, although his stock would probably plummet in the getting Kate in the sack department.

Seemed to me like he was intentionally grazed by a bullet, which also (as some others have stated) points to someone with sniper skills.
I agree completely, the intention of the shooter was to scare, not to kill. And I think i recall hearing a gunshot because I immediatley thought that Sawyer had squeezed one off at Zeke, until I saw him turn back when he got hit, then I knew(or speculated) that it was a sniper keeping things under control, they can't let their leader die.

ETA: Sorry if I repeated anything, I didn't see the last two pages before posting.

Ok, when I saw this (haven't re-watched it yet) I was under the impression that Sawyer fired his pistol at "Zeke". He raises the gun, we here a shot, and then Sawyer touches his neck. I was thinking that since Zeke was at point blank range, somehow the shot was blocked and richocheted back and hit Sawyer. Am I nuts???

Because it also looked to me like Zeke "disappeared" after Sawyer fired and then reappeared a few seconds later.

That's when I thought that maybe the Others can be invisible. (I know this will drive the Sci-Fi haters crazy) But this would explain how they captured Cindy without anyone seeing and it could also explain how Eko can hear them when they can't be seen??

So maybe magnetism and bending light are part of this experiment. The Others clearly know of Dharma/Hanso since Zeke made the "kicking open the door comment". Maybe the Others are the "Incident"?

This could also explain the power that Walt is using when he appears in the Jungle speaking backwards.

And I love Kate. :) (not that there's anything wrong with that!) :)

As for the ricochet theory, that was my first impression, too! I was freaked out until a few lines later when Jack challenges Zeke, saying something to the effect of "I think we outnumber you...you have one guy out there with a gun." So THEN I figured that someone had shot at Sawyer before he actually got his own shot off...

I'm not saying this is right, but they way I saw it was this:

Saywer raised his gun to shoot Mr. Beardy. Then one of Beardy's accomplices (who were watching things closely) shot at Saywer, not to kill him, just to "warn" him, it looked to me like he was grazed by a bullet on the side of the head, or the neck. Then Saywer got the message that perhaps it's not a good idea to continue with his plan.

Either way, that's one unlucky guy, shot, stabbed, tortured, hit with rocks... :)

I got the impression that Sawyer was hit in the neck by one of the others and not by a bullet, maybe an arrow, dart, something made from the jungle. And I agree, it was not intended to kill, just warn them that they are outnumbered.

Sawyer was definently shot by an other before he could get his shot off.. Whether a bullet or pellet, i dont know.. Couldn't be an arrow i dont think..

JFO,

I am in total agreement with you. I could have swore that James Ford fired his gun at Zeke and that he was hit with a ricochet. Anyone have screencaps?

Ok, when I saw this (haven't re-watched it yet) I was under the impression that Sawyer fired his pistol at "Zeke". He raises the gun, we here a shot, and then Sawyer touches his neck. I was thinking that since Zeke was at point blank range, somehow the shot was blocked and richocheted back and hit Sawyer. Am I nuts???

Because it also looked to me like Zeke "disappeared" after Sawyer fired and then reappeared a few seconds later.

That's when I thought that maybe the Others can be invisible. (I know this will drive the Sci-Fi haters crazy) But this would explain how they captured Cindy without anyone seeing and it could also explain how Eko can hear them when they can't be seen??

So maybe magnetism and bending light are part of this experiment. The Others clearly know of Dharma/Hanso since Zeke made the "kicking open the door comment". Maybe the Others are the "Incident"?

This could also explain the power that Walt is using when he appears in the Jungle speaking backwards.

And I love Kate. :) (not that there's anything wrong with that!) :)

Merging this into a thread where your question is answered..

In case you haven't noticed but Sawyer is the island punching bag. I think it may be an inside joke, or gimmick, but anytime someone gets hurt it's him.

sawyer is a slow draw. that man is gonna get shot every time. hes a bullet magnet. he would best serve the group as the cook
It would have been funny at the end of the episode, if instead of saying "Later James", Locke said "Later Slow Draw".

Seems that's Sawyer's thing...getting shot. He may need to look into some full body armor soon ;)


Only upper body armor would be needed. All his injuries have been upper body so that Josh can take his shirt off! :rolleyes: Haven't you noticed?

I too thought Sawyer shot at Zeke, and the bullet somehow richocheted back at him...Is that not what happened? I was pretty sure sawyer shot his gun.

Just weighing in, I don't think he got the shot off, he was very close which is what most people saw. I think the one shot we heard was definitely shot in the ear, later confirmed when Jack speculated that Zeke only had "one guy with a gun" out in the woods.

Forgive me if this has been brought up already-- I havent' had the time to catch up on every thread/post, so if there's already discussion on this, feel free to point me there. Thanks:

Anyhoo- I don't have the ep. recorded, so this is just my initial reaction to the scene and what I saw/heard, but it seemed to me that Sawyer was shot with the bullet from his own gun, like it ricocheted (sp??!) off of some force field or something and back at him. Unless the shot was fired at the exact same moment from the Other shooting at him, I don't remember hearing another shot at that time.

This seems pretty implausible (but I suppose no more implausible than a black smoke monster!)

Again, this is all based on my shoddy memory b/c I don't have the scene recorded to look back on, but what do you all think? Was it really just a shot from an Other with a gun? Or do the Others have some sort of shield around them that made the bullet turn back and hit sawyer instead.
Why Ethan didn't use/have this shield when he was getting popped by Charlie, I don't know... but I figured it was a theory/thought worth being thrown out there.

yeah, the bullet definitely ricocheted like it hit a force field. not sure why ethan didn't use it, maybe they all have different special powers like the X-men or something. Ethan was incredibly strong, Zeke has a force field...

According to Javi the shot was shot by an Other

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=33270

certainly not how it played on the screen though. sure seemed like it ricocheted. I watched it twice, maybe need to watch again....maybe just shoddy film work.