View Full Version : Sit, Vincent, Sit. Good Dog
notlost, justexploring 01-20-2006, 08:11 PM I think it is funny that even though Vincent is a dog -- all the other characters react to him. The way that he came running when Michael returned or when he used to hang around Shannon all the time. It was a good way to reveal information about various characters.
Maybe Vincent plays an important role.
irish lost fan 02-06-2006, 06:58 AM He seems to have reacted with a few people on the island, namely, shannon michael walt and it seems only natural that the dog would run to michael, as most dogs do get excited when their owners return after they have been gone for a while.
Michaud 02-06-2006, 07:20 AM As a former Labrador owner, I can confirm that Labs get very excited when their owners return. lol
I think Vincent is as important (or will be) to the storyline as the rest of the survivors. Afterall, there was no reason why Vincent had to survive the crash as we hadn't seen him before the crash until flashbacks. As a result there was no need for the writers to think "we can't kill the dog off" in order to protect peoples' sensibilities, as happens in most big-budget mainstream movies.
My thought centres around Vincent being the first character Jack sees in the Pilot. I reckon Vincent knows as much about the Island as anyone, it's just getting the information from him that would be hard!
notlost, justexploring 02-06-2006, 04:12 PM I hadn't thought about the fact that Vincent is one of the very first characters Jack sees. I think you are right; he survived for a reason.
Does anyone think that who Vincent gravitates to is significant?
notlost, justexploring 02-06-2006, 11:55 PM I hadn't really thought about it. He spends most of his time with Shannon, Walt, Michael, Sun, and the first person he sees is Jack. Do they all have something in common that he is drawn to?
irish lost fan 02-07-2006, 08:05 AM does anyone think its weird that Walt was kidnapped, Michael went crazy and ran off, Shannon died and Sun gets injured in a failed kidnapping attempt.
These all happen to the people Vincent is most around.
Michaud 02-07-2006, 08:29 AM does anyone think its weird that Walt was kidnapped, Michael went crazy and ran off, Shannon died and Sun gets injured in a failed kidnapping attempt.
These all happen to the people Vincent is most around.
It's interesting certainly. Not sure what to make of it - it could all be coincidence, although with this show I tend not to believe that.... ever.
notlost, justexploring 02-07-2006, 02:55 PM Oh, you are right! I hadn't thought of that!
Vincent was also around Sun. Hmmmmm
Michaud 02-07-2006, 04:36 PM Vincent was also around Sun. Hmmmmm
Indeed. See irish lost fan's post above (or below as it is now! lol)
does anyone think its weird that Walt was kidnapped, Michael went crazy and ran off, Shannon died and Sun gets injured in a failed kidnapping attempt.
Definitely something there in my opinion.
notlost, justexploring 02-07-2006, 04:39 PM I'm not saying that Vincent is evil . . he is way too cute. But perhaps he has an animal sense of danger -- like birds flying away before a storm.
Michaud 02-07-2006, 04:42 PM Could be right. From experience, Labs, although fairly barmy on occasions, do have an acute sense of loyalty, as well as emotional interaction with their owners. Maybe Vincent is psychic? Interesting...
notlost, justexploring 02-07-2006, 04:43 PM Maybe his psyic powers rubbed off on Walt or vice versa.
Michaud 02-07-2006, 04:46 PM Maybe his psyic powers rubbed off on Walt or vice versa.
Could be. I'm not sure that we can read too much into this at this stage, but as I've said above I do think that Vincent has the same 'specialness' that has led the rest of the survivors to be on the Island. Whether it's something the writers will just leave hanging there (ie. they simply want us to theorise about things like this), or whether they will actually make something of it, I'm looking forward to seeing.
notlost, justexploring 02-07-2006, 04:47 PM me, too!
Crazyfrench 02-07-2006, 08:49 PM Guys, I think Vincent is...
THE MOLE
goddessblue 02-07-2006, 09:11 PM There's a very interesting thread about Vincent being the mole, actually. It really bums me out that the planned Vincent flashback to what was going on in the cargo hold was canned because of a leak. I would love to see things from his perspective! I think it's totally plausible that the Others might've gotten to Vincent and put a chip or something in his collar and this is how they are able to know what's going on with the fusies. In any case, I think Vincent is more important a character than many give him credit for.
notlost, justexploring 02-08-2006, 01:09 AM There was gonna be a Vincent flashback? That's hilarious! And also how incredibly creative. That is a bummer!
Yeah, but how would Vincent communicate with the Others? Like Lassie?
DangerKitty 02-08-2006, 01:30 AM Ya know, a Vincent flashback could be awesome. Besides seeing the crash itself, from the baggage hold in a pet carrier.....we might see a lot of other stuff like...
Where Kate ended up after the crash before she ran into Jack...
Charlies numerous trips to the drug plane to gather his stash...
People actually talking around the fires at night about the monster or the others....
Anything that Walt may have told him in "private"...
What happened to Claire when she was kidnapped...
goddessblue 02-08-2006, 01:32 AM If the Others placed some sort of a device in Vincent's collar, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to consider that they might be able to retrieve information from it later. Vincent wanders all over the place and he's alone. This is just my opinion.
eYe_M_siCk 02-08-2006, 03:15 AM All dogs that are sold through reputable dealers are "chipped". My beagle has one right in the back of her neck. It can be read with a special scanning device. All humane societies to my knowledge have these scanners so that they can identify dogs. Perhaps Vincent has a "special" chip that can record conversations, record video, and have all that available for download by someone who has the scanner.
Why does Vincent watch while hidden in the bushes what some of the Losties are doing. For example when the Losties set out with the transponder for the first time Vincent can be seen spying on them from the bushes.
And who let him out of his dog carrier that he was packed in for the flight?
Michaud 02-08-2006, 06:04 AM Would loved to have seen a Vincent flashback. Maybe we should petition for one? lol
I agree with goddessblue that it would not be too hard for the Others to be using Vincent in the way that she describes, and I certainly take the point from eYe_M_siCk that Vincent did appear to be 'watching' them at that point in that episode. I suspect that he got out of his dog carrier in much the same way as Jack was thrown from his seat (we see him put his seatbelt on when he's talking to Rose about the turbulence) - simply the force of the break up of the plane.
_Phoenix_ 02-08-2006, 06:47 AM hee hee a Vincent flash back... intresting i think Vincent is adorable :vincent:
Michaud 02-08-2006, 06:53 AM hee hee a Vincent flash back... intresting i think Vincent is adorable :vincent:
Agreed, although I have a natural tendency to love Labs. I think Vincent's King of the Labradors, what with all his possible psychic powers as discussed above.
goddessblue 02-08-2006, 02:44 PM ^ ^^ agree with you both! :biggrin: i own my own yellow lab and used to have a chocolate, too. they're the best doggies!!
Michaud 02-08-2006, 02:52 PM ^ ^^ agree with you both! :biggrin: i own my own yellow lab and used to have a chocolate, too. they're the best doggies!!
Ahhhh, you had a chocoLab!! Had a black and a yellow until three years ago. Fantastic, wonderful dogs.
notlost, justexploring 02-08-2006, 06:01 PM I hadn't thought about Vincent being bugged. And you are right, how did he get out of his carrier?
Michaud 02-08-2006, 06:06 PM I hadn't thought about Vincent being bugged. And you are right, how did he get out of his carrier?
My thoughts were above - I'm not sure that the carrier thing is too big a point.
I suspect that he got out of his dog carrier in much the same way as Jack was thrown from his seat (we see him put his seatbelt on when he's talking to Rose about the turbulence) - simply the force of the break up of the plane.
Either that or, if they were actually brought down inrelative safety by whoever/whatever is in control, then it's more than possible that Vincent was siomply let out of his carrier.
I just thought the idea of someone letting him out as interesting. That could be how he was bugged. I know that it could just be nothing. That's the thing with Lost, you never really know what is important and what isn't.
Michaud 02-08-2006, 06:12 PM I just thought the idea of someone letting him out as interesting. That could be how he was bugged. I know that it could just be nothing. That's the thing with Lost, you never really know what is important and what isn't.
Never a truer word spoken (no pun intended). It's what makes Lost so much fun - picking all sorts of (probably meaningless, or not) stuff and playing around with it.
notlost, justexploring 02-08-2006, 09:26 PM I agree. It's great to finally watch a show that you can predict. (Geez my grammar was ackward!)
Looks like maybe Vincent was trying to protect or warn Sun
goddessblue 02-09-2006, 02:47 AM LOL, I dunno. I love Vincent, but that dog seems to show up when or right before shit happens!
eYe_M_siCk 02-09-2006, 02:57 AM Vincent is recording all the bad stuff they are doing and Zeke is going to show it to them later!
Whooo let the dog out! Whoo - Whoo?
I say smoky!:biggrin:
Michaud 02-09-2006, 05:18 AM Vincent is recording all the bad stuff they are doing and Zeke is going to show it to them later!
Whooo let the dog out! Whoo - Whoo?
I say smoky!:biggrin:
LOL, I dunno. I love Vincent, but that dog seems to show up when or right before crap happens!
Don't trust anyone on the Island basically,.... even the dog. (Maybe Vincent has made friends with Smokey?)
irish lost fan 02-09-2006, 03:17 PM Looks like maybe Vincent was trying to protect or warn Sun
Possibly but how would vincent know what Charlie was upto??
Maybe vincent has a sixth sense for danger or something?
goddessblue 02-09-2006, 03:22 PM Possibly but how would vincent know what Charlie was upto??
Maybe vincent has a sixth sense for danger or something?
A lot of animals have a 6th sense for danger. Like when earthquakes are coming and stuff like that.
Michaud 02-09-2006, 03:25 PM I think he's got a sixth sense for a lot of things. For example, thinking on a more simple level - he never seems to need to be fed, and I'll bet you he isn't hunting boar with Locke. He's obviously found himself some food somewhere. I'm positive that he's as special as the rest of the survivors.
A lot of animals have a 6th sense for danger. Like when earthquakes are coming and stuff like that.
And goddess is so right. My two Labs used to know when a lightning storm was on the way. They'd sense it before you even got that 'calm before the storm' feeling.
If I were Vincent I would've bitten Charlie! I can't believe him! Poor Sun!
notlost, justexploring 02-10-2006, 12:10 AM I can't decide whether Vincent is a good luck charm trying to warn people of harm or bad luck bring harm to people.
Michaud 02-10-2006, 05:37 AM Just another mystery remaining to be solved on that island
Wouldn't it be great if Lost ended with a Vincent flashback that explained everything?
notlost, justexploring 02-10-2006, 11:46 PM I like the idea -- except the part where Lost ends :(
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