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samoorai
01-24-2006, 04:33 AM
At first I thought thaqt Sun was being a bit selfish in not letting Jin help Kate look for michael. But then I remembered that whole raft scenario and shew really missed him nd was scared for him. So I think she swas being protective of her hubby.

what do you think?

addicted2much
01-24-2006, 09:21 AM
Her husband almost died , when the raft was destroyed by the udders so I don't think Sun is out of line to want him to stay with her and let someone else deal with Mike. Jin already went after him once.
Protective in that she doesn't want to see her husband put himself in more danger

turnip_head
01-24-2006, 08:11 PM
She wasn't being selfish at all. They didn't have to go after Michael at all. It isn't like Michael was taken, he left by choice.

Cuttler
01-24-2006, 08:43 PM
I think it was nice to finally see the two of them communicate their feelings to each other and to actually listen to what the other was saying and then form an understanding together. Their lack of communication was what was affecting their marriage prior to the crash.

madameripper
01-25-2006, 01:12 AM
I don't really think it was being selfish, I think, perhaps, she saw this as her chance to say something to Jin about the problems she was having before the crash.

I definitely think she just wanted to keep him safe as well.

I know where you are coming from though samoorai! Michael going off into the wilderness is a frightening thing, I don't want to lose Michael! He's so great!

I think there just comes a time when Sun has to put herself first and this was the time to do it.

samoorai
01-25-2006, 03:08 AM
good to see we're all on the same page. It is about time they both start communticating like a husband and wife. This was a "good" fight/argument they had. It help the marriage out. You should always talk about your emotions.

irish lost fan
01-25-2006, 05:58 PM
I think she was lost without jin, she thought she had lost him and she was so grief stricken, i'd say she just doesn't want to go through that again.

eehee
01-25-2006, 06:15 PM
This was a beautiful scene. It showed what a dramatic turn their relationship has taken. It feels natural now for Sun to stand up to Jin and for him to give in to her wishes. They got a rare chance to turn their relationship back into what it was in the beginning and neither wants to jeopardize that now. I didn't see any selfishness here, just love. :love:

LostFANatic91
01-26-2006, 04:46 AM
I don't think so. I just don't think she wanted to loose Jin again. Although I would have let him go help find Michael.

colleen in seoul
01-27-2006, 08:03 AM
I think it was nice to finally see the two of them communicate their feelings to each other and to actually listen to what the other was saying and then form an understanding together. Their lack of communication was what was affecting their marriage prior to the crash.
good to see we're all on the same page. It is about time they both start communticating like a husband and wife. This was a "good" fight/argument they had. It help the marriage out. You should always talk about your emotions.
This was a beautiful scene. It showed what a dramatic turn their relationship has taken. It feels natural now for Sun to stand up to Jin and for him to give in to her wishes. They got a rare chance to turn their relationship back into what it was in the beginning and neither wants to jeopardize that now. I didn't see any selfishness here, just love. :love:

^ agree with all of this!! :D
Yup. I was impressed by that scene on the beach, that they were able to talk and better understand where the other was coming from.

Swan
02-04-2006, 11:39 AM
I think she felt her family had risked enough for awhile - let someone else stick their neck out to be helpful. Remember most of the Lostaways are single as far as we know. She had just recovered her husband, and didn't want to see him in jeopardy all over again right away, especially since Michael did run off on his own. It's not as if he were kidnapped or something.

CrichtonClone
03-01-2006, 08:25 PM
I agree with her actions on the beach, but I believe the Losties ignore her faults, and she was definately not being protective when she tried to poison him. Someone on another board suggested that this was just because she was pretty, I disagree, I believe that her aid in some medical issues was clouding their judgement. Sun's flaws are forgotten or ignored, but Sawyer isn't the kindliest one on the island and anything he does wrong get immediately brought up and bad things are always ascribed to him, and the good things he does get lost in the muck. In season one, in DNH Sawyer unquestioningly gives Kate his supply of alcohol and even expresses some remorse in not having that much, but people forget about that, and remember "Hey, that's the guy who took the guns"

LostIslandBaby
03-10-2006, 09:40 PM
She definetely had a right to assert herself and communicate what she wanted to her husband. She shouldn't have to sacrifice always and play the lonely housewife so that her husband can play the hero. I think she did the right thing, selfish or not.

quangtran
03-13-2006, 08:35 AM
I agree with her actions on the beach, but I believe the Losties ignore her faults, and she was definately not being protective when she tried to poison him. Someone on another board suggested that this was just because she was pretty, I disagree, I believe that her aid in some medical issues was clouding their judgement. Sun's flaws are forgotten or ignored, but Sawyer isn't the kindliest one on the island and anything he does wrong get immediately brought up and bad things are always ascribed to him, and the good things he does get lost in the muck. In season one, in DNH Sawyer unquestioningly gives Kate his supply of alcohol and even expresses some remorse in not having that much, but people forget about that, and remember "Hey, that's the guy who took the guns"I see things completely differently.

1. With characters like Jack, Kate, Locke and Sawyer, the writers bring complexity to them by showing both their good and bad sides. Most of the complexities in Sun's character are tied to her relationship with Jin, with the rest of her limited screen time devoted to her being helpful. The reason why she doesn’t get ragged on is because they haven’t shown that many flaws. It's like asking why Losties ingore Hurley's faults.

2. For me, it's easier to sympathies for Sun over Sawyer, seeing how Sawyer hatched a plan that involved terrorising her. Sun poisoned Jin to prevent him from leaving the island and because she didn’t want him to leave on such bad terms. I don’t condone her actions, but I understand why she did it. Saywer took the guns because…umm……eh……he wanted to get back at Jack? Wanted his fellow castaways to hate him again? Are we suppose to understand any of this or sympathies for him because of it? I don't.

Blue Coral
03-13-2006, 08:51 AM
Love may seem selfish sometimes. But it's not. It's love at it's purest and most beautiful. That was very evident with Jin and Sun. She wanted him to stay and the fact that he did was all the more romantic.

CrichtonClone
03-13-2006, 06:19 PM
Jin understood that he needed to stay, but quangtran you're saying that talking about Sun's faults is like talking about Hurley's faults, you're also saying that we can sympathize with Sun for poisoning the water, I don't agree on either count, that was a selfish thing to do, anyone could drink the water, and she could not have known who would drink it, but she did it anyway.

I'm not saying that one should sympathize with Sawyer for taking the guns, but I believe that his faults are brought to a forefront.