01-26-2006, 12:35 AM
I found it really interesting to see how Charlie was percieved in his flashback as the responsible one that everyone looked to for help but now on the island they all treat him like a child. Kate pushing him away when he wants to talk to Claire, Locke taking the drugs and not letting him make his own decision, and the worst was Jack.
Did anyone think it was really condescending the way Jack spoke to him? Instead if asking what happened, and is everything okay, what's up with you, Jack sounded like an angry father with his "tell me you won't do that again ever". And when Charlie tries to explain about the drugs, Jack's all "I didn't ask you about that". It was like how a parent talks to a misbehaving child.
The contrast with the flashbacks was really striking to me. Everyone depended on him before. No wonder Charlie believes he should be responsible for Claire and Aaron. That's what he's used to doing. He's not used to being treated like a child. How did he get into this pattern in the first place when that's clearly not the person he was?
01-26-2006, 12:41 AM
I noticed that as well. Charlie was someone who at one time was expected to be responsible and take care of others. Now he is seen as not being able to do either.
01-26-2006, 12:41 AM
Probably because since they've gotten on the island, Charlie's acted a lot like a child. Some of the flashbacks are pre-pure addiction. He wasn't the same person then. Think back to when the flashback of his visiting his brother, he was no longer the responsible one. His decent into childish behavior happened before he came to the island and he's kina fluxuatied *is that word* between being responsible and being a child.
01-26-2006, 12:48 AM
And I just read an article about how Charlie will continue to be the black sheep for the rest of the season. So prepare for many more episodes of the rest of the losties treating him this way.. it's just too bad. But good character development I guess.
01-26-2006, 12:51 AM
Actually, I think Jack treated Charlie with the most respect out of everyone. He didn't care why Charlie did what he did, he just wanted to make sure that, for the sake of everyone else, Charlie wasn't going to do it again. Jack seemed the most level-headed in the episode.
01-26-2006, 01:00 AM
I was surprised no one actually listened to him besides Eko. He tried to talk to so many people and everyone just pushed him away. Locke surprised me the most. He's normally so understanding and listens to everyone but he didn't listen or understand Charlie at all. I bet if Locke actually listened to him Charlie wouldn't have taken Aaron the second time. One thing I'm also curious about is why everyone thinks Charlie is going to hurt Aaron... everytime he goes near Claire / Aaron everyone acts like they need to talk him out of hurting the baby. I dont know.
01-26-2006, 01:06 AM
One thing I'm also curious about is why everyone thinks Charlie is going to hurt Aaron... everytime he goes near Claire / Aaron everyone acts like they need to talk him out of hurting the baby. I dont know.
Charlie certainly seems confused by that too because he knows he wouldn't hurt Aaron but because he's acting so erratically people are scared. He starts a fire and takes him at night twice without asking and runs off. Don't forget its only been about a week since Danielle abducted him and people are still really jumpy. HIs behavior was strange and they didn't know what he was going to do.
I actually thought Claire was going to call Charlie a junkie in front of everyone. She actually didn't, so it's possible alot of them still don't know about his potential to be on drugs or they would be even more concerned.
01-26-2006, 01:09 AM
Locke has his own agenda,helping Charlie isn't part of it. I don't like that he kept some of the statues, that can't be for a good reason.
Charlie probably hasn't been clean long enough for Jack or the rest to take him seriously,being anex-junkie has that draw back,any time he acts strange most will assume the worst.
Locke asked an island, a piece of dirt, to send him a sign so he could figure out how to open the hatch. He sees a plane crashing down to the ground. He asks Boone to believe him on faith, and Boone accepts.
But when Charlie is looking for a way to get closer to the baby and Claire again, and he recieves the dream about his Aaron and then about Claire, his mother, and the dove coming out of the sky (sounding just like Locke's plane (either the producers of Dreamland either have a limited library of sound effects or this is very important)), no one believes Charlie, especially Locke. Just smacks of the worst kind of hypocrosy.
As for the dove and plane sounding the same, the dove brought/proved that Jesus was divine, maybe the plane is going to be true for Aaron, as well.