It could be nothing, but I think there is a discrepancy in the number of Virgin Mary statues that Charlie was hiding. In the end of episode ten when Charlie was adding the statue Eko gave him to replace the one he smashed, there were only six statues in the stash, including the one Charlie adds. One could have easily been hidden by the leafs and the big tree root that was blocking the shot, however.

In epsode 12, when charlie goes back to his stash, grabs a statue and smashes it, and then has a flashback, you can see pretty clearly seven statues (there is one mostly hidden behind a leaf), minus the one Charlie smashes, leaving six. Locke takes these and then has an encounter with Claire and Aaron. Locke has this moment when he looks into the bag for a looong time. He could just be reflecting on Charlie's folly, but he seems to do a double take when he looks in his back, like something is wrong (like the number of the statues isn't right), and gives a little "hmm..." Later when Locke puts the statues in the vault, there are seven, one more then was in Charlie's stash.

Then in episode thirteen, there are clearly seven statues again, and when Locke is questioned by Jack about the statues, he declines to open them because there are seven and he is "superstitious." This from the guy who opened the hatch in spite of warnings about bad numbers and believes in miracles (although clearly his belief is waning).I think he has noticed there is one too many statues. That's all I got.

So, am I having paranoid/psychotoc episodes or has anyone else noticed this?

This was misleading and unfortunately you can't go by what you see here, only what you are told. Charlie had eight statues from the beginning. I know you can't count eight, but according to the script from Fire+Water, when Locke finds Charlie's statues, there are eight statues in the hole and then Charlie broke one leaving seven. Locke put seven in the gun locker and there are seven still.

My question is, did Charlie hold any back at all or does Sawyer now have all seven? Charlie may say he doesn't want them but eventually he might. What will he have to do to get them back from Sawyer in the future?

Locke told Jack 7...Sawyer handed him just the one...as we saw.

Locke told Jack 7...Sawyer handed him just the one...as we saw.

Yes but he pulled it out of a bag and said "guess you want your friends back". This could imply that he had all of them in the bag and was just starting to pull them out, or he only has one (was referring to the bags inside in the plural) and doesn't know there are six more. The mystery of who has the other six now still remains. It could just as easily by Sawyer or Charlie.

Sawyer did refer to the "friends," plural. He's not going to reach in and grab all 7 at once; they're too bulky and akward, plus it's not his style. I think Charlie's clean, and just going a little crazy.

Actually Charlie seems much more rational than he did last time. Now he's a calculating bada$$, like Sawyer.

Thanks for that pacejunkie!

I thought it was just a mistake but I wasn't completely sure.

I don't think Charlie will be wanting the statues back. He doesn't even want one to hold onto as insurance (unless of course he had already taken some prior to Sawyer's offer). He's going to solve his problems by other means......

But I can't imagine the heroin would still be in the picture if they weren't going to become an issue for him at some point. I find it hard to believe he's completely over the drugs otherwise Locke could have just destroyed them and you would have eliminated that story arc. The fact that they still exist is evidence that Charlie's struggle is not over.

Actually Charlie seems much more rational than he did last time. Now he's a calculating bada$$, like Sawyer.


I agree, Charlie and Sawyer are going bad, but why did Charlie have to hit Sun, she never did anything to hurt him? :mad:

I agree, Charlie and Sawyer are going bad, but why did Charlie have to hit Sun, she never did anything to hurt him? :mad:

He didn't hit her. Sun said she got away and ran and then hit her head and fell. She had the hood over her head and they found it caught on a branch so she ran into a tree.

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He didn't hit her. Sun said she got away and ran and then hit her head and fell. She had the hood over her head and they found it caught on a branch so she ran into a tree.
Thanks, I forgot about that. But why did he have to do that to Sun. Place a hood over her head. She wouldn't have gotten hurt if he didn't do it.

Thanks, I forgot about that. But why did he have to do that to Sun. Place a hood over her head. She wouldn't have gotten hurt if he didn't do it.

No, but she would have seen him of course. There was really no other way.

Why did Locke take the statues with the guns, anyhow?

Why did Locke take the statues with the guns, anyhow?

Maybe to keep all the dangerous items together? I'm grasping at straws here:cool:

Why did Locke take the statues with the guns, anyhow?

I don't think he did. If the statues were with the guns, then Charlie could have taken them when he followed Locke. It would make more sense that Charlie got the guns after Locke left and then gave them to Sawyer, rather than telling Sawyer where to find them without ever seeing that the statues were there too. I think Sawyer took the statues out of the vault.

nevermind, answered as I was typing^^^^^^^^^

Wait a minute? Didnt Locke originally take the guns to hide them from Jack? If so, why did he also take the statues to hide with the guns? Or did Sawyer take the statues from the hatch to give to Charlie for helping him out? And how did Sawyer know there was heroin in the statues?

Locke hid the statues with the guns because he felt they had to be kept from Charlie. The same reason he says he locked them up in the first place. So he moved everything together. Charlie says as much when he tells Sawyer he could have taken the statues before he told Sawyer where they were but he didn't. Now Sawyer has them because he moved everything to a new hiding place.

I believe there was more than one stash of statues. At the end of 23rd Psalm, the last statue it shows Charlie placing with the others has clearly been burned. Yet when you see the statues that he led Locke to in Fire & Water, the same ones shown in the gunroom this week, none of them are burned. So obviously, either Charlie has been using again, or he had more than one stash.

I believe there was more than one stash of statues. At the end of 23rd Psalm, the last statue it shows Charlie placing with the others has clearly been burned. Yet when you see the statues that he led Locke to in Fire & Water, the same ones shown in the gunroom this week, none of them are burned. So obviously, either Charlie has been using again, or he had more than one stash.

Possible or it could just be a production error. They've been known to do those. But it would explain why Charlie didn't care to get the statue back from Sawyer.