waltisfuture
02-09-2006, 07:07 PM
There are numbers and letters on the back of Sawyer's jacket. I see WAG 32....A 313 (http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x13-longcon/05/2x14-longcon-0428.jpg)
His jacket has an army fatigue feel to it, so I googled what I think I see and found these 2 sites, but I'm pretty sure I'm missing something here. I'm posting this hoping someone else makes a connection.
Exposing NORAD's Wag The 911 Window Dressing Tale
http://standdown.net/
http://gen.1starnet.com/civilwar/brigancj.htm
The 32nd Texas Cavalry, numbered 313 at the battle. ...
Military History of
JOHN HENRY BRIGANCE
C.S.A. Private - Company K
32nd Texas Calvary
IN THE WAR BETWEEN THE STATES
February 4, 1862 to May 14, 1865
oz_blossom
02-09-2006, 09:36 PM
Good catch!!
Im not so sure if it has a real meaning though, you know how they put those numbers and stuff on the army-type clothes in stores to make the wearer look more cool? Or maybe he got in from an army store (you know the kind that sell dog tags, clothes, tents and stuff?)
But it could have more meaning...it'd be interesting if we saw the jacket on someone else, maybe in sayid's flashback next week??
OfAllTheThingsIveLost
02-09-2006, 10:11 PM
Nice catch! I did a few searches too, but couldn't find much. It does look like military to me, not that I'm an expert, so if he did get it at an army surplus store or something, wouldn't those letters and numbers refer to a batallion or something? So we should be able to find something on it, even if it doesn't mean anything?
And now we get to play the fun game of "what do you see?" because I agree on WAG 32, but below that I see 8(not A)313.
waltisfuture
02-10-2006, 06:02 PM
I still don't find much, but I did find this and I recall another theory/connection to night blindness??
WAG 32 8313 Night blindness http://www.rockefeller.edu/labheads/sakmar/articles/Fahmy_Bioch_1996.pdf
What does WAG stand for?
Wag the Dog (http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Wag+the+Dog&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&linktext=Wag%20the%20Dog)
Wag the Dog (1997) is a film starring Dustin Hoffman, Robert De Niro and Anne Heche about a Washington spin doctor (De Niro) who distracts the electorate from a presidential sex scandal by hiring a Hollywood producer (Hoffman) to create a fake war. The scheme enlists the musical talents of Willie Nelson (who creates a theme song for the 'war'). Kirsten Dunst, Woody Harrelson (as the fabricated Lieutenant Kije-like "Schumann,") and William H. Macy also appear.
Wag the Dog was produced and directed by Barry Levinson, famous for the television series Homicide and Oz. David Mamet co-wrote the screenplay. The film is based on a novel, American Hero by Larry Beinhart. In the novel, the President is specifically George Herbert Walker Bush.
Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow.
The film explores serious themes, such as the manipulation of the mass media and public opinion, with a comic sensibility. The film drew attention at the time for similarities to the Clinton sex scandal, although the movie also makes reference to the Second Gulf War as an example of war used as an electoral tactic. ("American Hero" is explicitly built on the premise that George H. W. Bush concocted the war on the advice of the late Lee Atwater.) The idea of war as a creation of the media is not, of course, original to the movie. The French postmodernist Jean Baudrillard's ideas in particular are relevant to a discussion of the movie — see for example his essay The Gulf War Did Not Take Place.
The title of the movie is taken from the joke: "Why does a dog wag its tail? Because a dog is smarter than its tail. If the tail was smarter, the tail would wag the dog." Interpretations differ as to the meaning of this metaphor. Some suggest the dog is public opinion, and the tail represents the media; the dog is the media, and the tail is political campaigns; or the dog is the people, and the tail is the government. Moreover, the expression "the tail wagging the dog" refers to any case where something of greater significance (such as a war) is driven by something lesser (such as a sex scandal).
The video cassette version contains an extended trailer after the credits that has commentary about the movie in the context of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky by the producers of the movie and Tom Brokaw.
OfAllTheThingsIveLost
02-11-2006, 04:23 PM
Ya know, I kept looking past all the Wag the Dog search results, but the idea of a spin doctor distracting the electoriate by creating a fake war is interesting in many ways. As is the entire metaphor of the dog wagging the tail vs the tail wagging the dog. But I think if TPTB wanted us to get those things out of it, wouldn't they have worked in the title of the movie (people talking about it or it playing in the background of one of the hotel scenes or something) instead of just one of the words on a jacket?
The night blindness thing could be interesting; I want to say I saw that theory on one of the many Tiberius threads, but of course now I can't find it.
The first thing I thought of when I saw WAG was "Wild A** Guess", which, all things considered, may be most appropriate interpretation! :biggrin:
Moonlight Princess
02-11-2006, 04:43 PM
I found this when doing a search for WAG on the web.....
http://www.outinstyle.com/page/ois/PROD/TentsShelters/WAG007 (http://www.outinstyle.com/page/ois/PROD/TentsShelters/WAG007)
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OfAllTheThingsIveLost
02-11-2006, 04:47 PM
I found this when doing a search for WAG on the web.....
http://www.outinstyle.com/page/ois/PROD/TentsShelters/WAG007 (http://www.outinstyle.com/page/ois/PROD/TentsShelters/WAG007)
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