Even though we didn't see an immediate explosion or reaction or something after the timer ran down, how do we know that just getting to that point where the symbols appear hasn't caused some underground lockdown or some other timer to start ticking to the end or something?

Two threads discussing that and other ramifications of the timer hitting zero..

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=37449

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=37437

do we know for certain that time did run out?? i think at the very least Locke thought he got it in time- otherwise he would have been freaking out.

Oh sorry BD! I knew of those threads and had skimmed them and thought they were just discussing the sounds and symbols.

i think this thread should address whether time really ran out or not...

Yeah, and what were the sounds that we heard when the timer ran down? Almost sounded like something opening, to me...

i think this thread should address whether time really ran out or not...

Well, it did hit zero, which to me is time running out. Then the symbols started popping up. I vote we had an "incident".

Pulpy, see that's what I was wondering--whether it actually did run out. I mean, I know the symbols weren't all shown, but maybe once it gets to a certain point regardless, it can't be stopped--although the timer did flip back, but I don't know--just seems like that would be an all or nothing thing with no "second chance" to type in the numbers really quickly before all the symbols showed for as big a deal as Desmond and the Hanso guy made it out as. Who knows?

:biggrin: But what happens when we have an incident??

just cos the flippy thing went to zero doesn't mean he didnt get the code in right as it was turning... although the noise did happen which is a vote towards it running out. ...but then again Locke wasn't upset and it did reset which is a vote towards it being succesful

Well, it did hit zero, which to me is time running out. Then the symbols started popping up. I vote we had an "incident".

I'd vote no incident. I think that Locke realized that the symbols where part of the sequence. Before the last one turned, he finished the numbers and pressed execute. It was all just a tease.

Having an incident and having reset the clock before it was too late could be two different things.

The counter went to zero... imo, time ran out. However, was it allowed to go on long enough to cause an incident? I'm not sure. We aren't sure because there was a second-chance feature programmed into the computer, and Locke had a small window of time to reset it even after time expired.

We don't.

*insert evil laughter*

And if it is, it's all Jack's fault.

i think something a sequence begins when it counts down to zero, giving a couple more seconds for that process to start and end. Looked like Locke was able to execute before the doomsday sequence ended.

I had visions of everything rolling and coming up B O O M just like the cartoons.

we know that there is more than one dharma initiative bunker.

who is to say that there isn't more than one hatch with more than one timer.

my belief is that whatever happens requires all of the timers in all of the hatches to run to zero before something happens.

sort of like the battle submarines. both of the officers have to turn their key...

the question is how many other hatches are there and how many of them have already let their clocks run out.

i think it is something nuclear. maybe a missile silo, maybe the island blows up.

remember sayid said that thick concrete reminded him of chernobyll.

perhaps those injections desmond was giving himself protected him from the radiation associated with living in a missile silo?

Could be -- maybe the nuclear leak began with the time running out, and the resetting "in the nick of time" is just to distract them from noticing anything, or from linking anything they notice to time having run out.....

Could be -- maybe the nuclear leak began with the time running out, and the resetting "in the nick of time" is just to distract them from noticing anything, or from linking anything they notice to time having run out.....

Could be, but I did notice that it started to sound like a missle being set to release from a silo.

Here's a question for the board:

Does Locke share this information or not?

If he shares the info and tells them you actually have time after zero, they may get complacent and think there's no rush.

If he tells them nothing then they keep the status quo, assuming something bad will happen at zero.

What does he do? What would you do?

I don't think we know if you really have time after zero. We know that something was set into motion, but not whether or not it was aborted. I don't think that Locke will tell anyone about it. Did Jack see the symbols?

Jack was in the gun locker pulling Sayid away from Baloon Boy.
Locke was the only one who saw them.
To me it sounded like a vault or something opening...or maybe closing.

We don't.

*insert evil laughter*

And if it is, it's all Jack's fault. So instead of blaming Damon we can now blame Jack? Yeah! I used to think Jack's OK, but he was a royal pain this week! I can't wait until we see just exactly what was set in motion and see Jack's reaction and major guilt trip. I'm jumping up and down right now! :biggrin:

Here's a question for the board:

Does Locke share this information or not?

If he shares the info and tells them you actually have time after zero, they may get complacent and think there's no rush.

If he tells them nothing then they keep the status quo, assuming something bad will happen at zero.

What does he do? What would you do? I think he doesn't tell anybody, and if somebody finds out or suspects the timer hit zero, Locke might say he didn't think anything happened or he thought he hit "Execute" in time, so there wasn't any need to report it. This, once again, will piss Jack off! But since when did Locke do something that did not piss Jack off? :cool:

I really think something will happen as a result of the timer hitting zero and the red symbols turning over. If they represent other hatches, there may be some kind of failsafe procedure that goes into effect. If they represent what happens to the island in general, the "monster" may return and do something. Also, I think the Others (maybe Zeke's group) may have been alerted and might send a scout to see what happened.

I had visions of everything rolling and coming up B O O M just like the cartoons.

Same here. :biggrin:

Since that last spot didn't finish spinning I think Locke got the number sequence entered in time before whatever was going to happen happened. I didn't hear any sounds but then I was watching with the sound very low so as not to wake up the in-laws. I'll have to watch it again. If something started, I think it was stopped by Locke entering the numbers. If he were a few seconds later, we'd have had a very different scene. I'm still not 100% convinced something bad will happen.

If I remember correctly, Locke didn't enter the code correctly. He got to the number 16, mistyped it, at which time, the timer runs out. I believe that at this time, the timer flips again to reveal the red and white hieroglyphs. We then see Locke's face which shows utter disbelief. In a state of "panic" he presses execute. We don't know what will happen as a result of this, but I sense that something bad will happen just because of the eeriness of the red/white symbols coupled with what they supposedly mean (cause to die).

IF the red symbols represent the other stations, and IF the sounds were some sort of communication to the other stations (as many seem to believe), then it's reasonable to assume that one of the stations wasn't 'aware' of what happened, right? If anything happened at all, that is.

I think that probably more than one thing occurs if it goes to zero. Evidently whatever it was wasn't completed, because the whole thing just stopped.

Either way, I'm not entirely convinced that something hasn't happened.