Things seems back to normal. Seemed strange to me.

I don’t think so, that’s why Jin game him the cold shoulder.

I think it's more that they're choosing to ignore him. Sawyer may view himself as the new sheriff in town, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to acknowledge it.

Well, if no-one wants a gun then effectively nothing has changed..

Like Hurley pointed out, everyone is just back to hating him like they did before so in that way, not much has changed. The whole first season he was hated but still lived among the group.

I would be watching him extra carefully and even think of following him or what. But what seemed strange to me was not their reaction to him, but his attitude to them. He was acting as if he expected them be nice and friendly as if nothing happened.

By the way, I never thought he could be so cruel as to crush the frog! That was astonishing.

Poor frog. Yes, Jin ignored him and Hurley just tried his best to be nice. Nothing is back to normal. Maybe it's just the way it was last year when everyone disliked him and that was kind of the norm.

The frog crush was a little weird I thought...I thought he would puss out like he did the bore...

I think they don't hate him...it seems as if all is forgotten...everyone just accepted it and moved on it seems...no one even cares...at least that is the way it looked to me...

It wasn't a big deal. He took the guns? Who gives a damn? Perhaps Jin, because he wanted them in the first place. Perhaps Ana, because she's so obsessed with them. No one really cares about the damn guns.

I got a different feeling in the new epi. I felt where as before, people were at least trying to be civilized (other than Sawyer) they all seemed to be showing anger and rudness. Sayid was portrayed as a torturer, French Lady shot the man when not in immediate danger, Jack totally blew up on Locke, Hurley even got mad and stood up to Sawyer. Then of course the evil eye Sawyer can give and smashing that poor little defensless frog was unforgivable!

Danielle purposely shot Henry in the shoulder because he was running away. She wants answers too as to who these people are and it was awfully suspicious that he immediately ran. If he was really by himself on the island, you'd think he'd be happy to meet other people. She also said if she wanted him dead she would have killed him, so she knew she was just stopping him but keeping him alive for information.

It wasn't a big deal. He took the guns? Who gives a damn? Perhaps Jin, because he wanted them in the first place. Perhaps Ana, because she's so obsessed with them. No one really cares about the damn guns. Taking the guns is probably a huge deal...and the guns is not what it all was about...it was about gaining respect and control of the group by force. You are completely missing the whole point of what Sawyer did...you're just looking at the surface and not the meaning behind his actions...

Sayid was portrayed as a torturer, French Lady shot the man when not in immediate danger, Jack totally blew up on Locke, Hurley even got mad and stood up to Sawyer. Then of course the evil eye Sawyer can give and smashing that poor little defensless frog was unforgivable! Sayid is a torturer...thats what he does. He feels bad when he knows the person did not do what he is trying to make them admit to. I think his actions were completely justified...that man is 100% an other...Sayid is right...

Jack was also justified blowing up on Locke. He doesn't feel that the man is an other...and doesn't want someone just pumuling him for no reason...I'm worried Jack might even let him go...leaving him to return and cause havok later. The reason Jack was so ruff with Locke is because he wanted to get what he wanted...Jack doesn't care about the button...he thinks it is a mind game...he presses the button because Locke feels so strong about it...but Locke has been double crossing Jack a lot lately...

Food = Hurley's drug. Notice how Charlie is w/his herion...Hurley is the same way with food...

Danielle purposely shot Henry in the shoulder because he was running away. She wants answers too as to who these people are and it was awfully suspicious that he immediately ran. If he was really by himself on the island, you'd think he'd be happy to meet other people. She also said if she wanted him dead she would have killed him, so she knew she was just stopping him but keeping him alive for information.
Well if you were trapped by freaky deaky cave woman with a gun/crossbow on the Island you would run to! BUT on the other side of that he shouldn't have...I 100% believe he is an other...and I think running had a lot to do with it. He didn't seem humble at the moment at all...esp when Sayid was trying to be nice to him. Only when his position was compromised did he seem submissive. Danielle had every right to bow is a**. Like Sayid said...look at all the Others have done to them...

I am not saying they didn't all think they have a reason for their anger, nor did I say they not legit. I am just saying it seemed the violence level is stepping up, and things are not so rosy in paradise in this epi. Not to say living on a weird island is rosy.

Just because people aren't calling him names, and throwing things at him doesn't mean everything is "back to normal" as some of you seem to think it is. Stop waiting for everything to be spoon fed to you and think past only what's on the screen. If I were in that group, I wouldn't be challenging the guy who has all the guns (and ammo) when all I have are harsh words to throw. I'm sure many who haven't gotten to know James at all are probably scared and would have a "pants go brown" moment if they had to talk to him at all.

Remember how intimidated Hurley was when he first met Kate after seeing her wanted sheet and seeing she was strapped?

RUN AWAY!!!!

I am not saying they didn't all think they have a reason for their anger, nor did I say they not legit. I am just saying it seemed the violence level is stepping up, and things are not so rosy in paradise in this epi. Not to say living on a weird island is rosy.

oh well then agreed! sorry I mistook what you said. I do think the violence level is stepping up on the Island...:cool:

Just because people aren't calling him names, and throwing things at him doesn't mean everything is "back to normal" as some of you seem to think it is. Stop waiting for everything to be spoon fed to you and think past only what's on the screen. If I were in that group, I wouldn't be challenging the guy who has all the guns (and ammo) when all I have are harsh words to throw. I'm sure many who haven't gotten to know James at all are probably scared and would have a "pants go brown" moment if they had to talk to him at all.

Remember how intimidated Hurley was when he first met Kate after seeing her wanted sheet and seeing she was strapped?

RUN AWAY!!!!

That's my attitude. The 'leaders'..the ones who might be able to do anything about it are sort of preocupied with the new guy in the hatch. I suppose they could have locked him up and told him 'Now you sit here and sweat it out while we try to get our firearms back from our resident con-man. Then we'll get back to you..we promise!"

Kate could give him pleading looks..Charlie should avoid him for a while to throw off suspicion that they are in ca-hoots. Ana could go off on a tirade and threaten...what the heck else could they do? I'm going to assume that they at least TALKED about it off camera and not worry about it.

Things seems back to normal. Seemed strange to me. Normal? On CrapHole Island? LOL But seriously, I know what you're saying but I don't think so. Jin ignored Sawyer and gave him a really disgusted look. Hurely is always trying to be nice to everyone. He is really a peace-maker but even he stood up to Sawyer and got angry at how he was being treated. Back to normal in the sense that we're back to the original way that Sawyer was disliked by the group, yes, normal in not caring about what happened, no.
I would be watching him extra carefully and even think of following him or what. But what seemed strange to me was not their reaction to him, but his attitude to them. He was acting as if he expected them be nice and friendly as if nothing happened.

By the way, I never thought he could be so cruel as to crush the frog! That was astonishing. When Sawyer took the guns, I was all "Yee Haa!" and felt I had a new hero but after he killed the frog, I lost respect for him. That was a HUGE thing to do and, to me, the wrose thing done so far. Yea, I'm an animal lover but it's more than that. Sawyer killing that little, defenseless frog when Hurely offered to move it and thus help both, showed that Sawyer wasn't just wanting the peace and quiet but was still wanting just the power. For the first time I really saw him as a true bully ... a male AL. He picked on the most defensless and innocent of everyone that we've seen on the island so far and killed it. He's a bully in the truest sense of the word and that really disappointed me.
I got a different feeling in the new epi. I felt where as before, people were at least trying to be civilized (other than Sawyer) they all seemed to be showing anger and rudness. Sayid was portrayed as a torturer, French Lady shot the man when not in immediate danger, Jack totally blew up on Locke, Hurley even got mad and stood up to Sawyer. Then of course the evil eye Sawyer can give and smashing that poor little defensless frog was unforgivable! Yes, this eppy did step up the stress level. I think it did a great job of showing us that the people are truly reaching their breaking points. Danielle, tho, seemed her usual self to me. She is the huntress and survival is the number 1 thing on her agenda ... that and finding Alex. I wasn't surprised at all when she shot Henry. If anyone would know an "Other," it would be her!

I am kinda suspecting that something will go down in the hatch and everyone iwll be happy that sawyer removed the guns...He would be the inadvertent hero... personally I hope this is not the case as I like the hatch and all it has to offer... but it seems like an interesting possibility.
say the clock ran down, the blast doors shut, others came... you already have the guns on the outside until you can get back in.

By the way, I never thought he could be so cruel as to crush the frog! That was astonishing.

I would think masterminding a coup/power play + having a hand in hurting Sun (even though Charlie did it- he thought it up) and conning people would be a lot more disturbing! The frog? eh. It's a frog.

Actually I doubt it was THAT frog that was keeping him awake... I mean how many frogs are there on the island? So okay, he's an indiscriminate-frog-murdering-meanie. :biggrin:

Well Hurley seemed like he didn't really wanna help him, and Jin snubbed him, so i'd say they're still mad at him.

Sure time will tell!

It was a damn frog, get over it. Sawyer has done far, far worse things, and you hate him for that? :confused:

There does seem like this episode was disconnected from The Long Con. Aside from Jin's snubbing of Sawyer, and perhaps Hurleys' remark about nobody liking him, there was nothing to show what transpired in The Long Con ever happened.

I figure someone would have beat the stuffing out of Sawyer by now. Or locked him up to starve him until he gives up the guns. Or have one of the phramacists on the Island (paging Sun Kwon or Kate Austin) drug him. It's a day or two later (I think) and Locke is napping. P-lease. Locke should be absolutely obssesed 24/7 with getting those guns back.

I figure someone would have beat the stuffing out of Sawyer by now. Or locked him up to starve him until he gives up the guns. Or have one of the phramacists on the Island (paging Sun Kwon or Kate Austin) drug him. It's a day or two later (I think) and Locke is napping. P-lease. Locke should be absolutely obssesed 24/7 with getting those guns back.

Yea,I have to agree...considering they know for a fact that there are others on the island and that they know from the taillies that they abduct and do who knows what to the survivors...I would think that the one person they would have been focused on would be Sawyer.
The guns represent their only line of defence against the others and they're going to let Sawyer hide them...highly out of character for Locke,Jack and even Kate to let Sawyer just go about his daily business like nothing has happened.Just because he said he won't give the guns back?Please...:rolleyes:

The guns represent their only line of defence against the others and they're going to let Sawyer hide them...highly out of character for Locke,Jack and even Kate to let Sawyer just go about his daily business like nothing has happened.Just because he said he won't give the guns back?Please...:rolleyes:
I agree and I suppose that nothing will change after Maternity leave too.

Hope to see something in the "Whole truth"

There does seem like this episode was disconnected from The Long Con. Aside from Jin's snubbing of Sawyer, and perhaps Hurleys' remark about nobody liking him, there was nothing to show what transpired in The Long Con ever happened.

I figure someone would have beat the stuffing out of Sawyer by now. Or locked him up to starve him until he gives up the guns. Or have one of the phramacists on the Island (paging Sun Kwon or Kate Austin) drug him. It's a day or two later (I think) and Locke is napping. P-lease. Locke should be absolutely obssesed 24/7 with getting those guns back.

I agree, mr find. The events of the Long Con seemed so important, totally changing the balance of power on the island. I expected there to be something about that in this episode. The parts you mentioned with Jin and Hurley were good, and that's kind of what I thought would happen.

Even though there was an Other around, I did expect Jack and Locke and Ana and others to be working together against Sawyer, at least trying to get the guns back. I don't know, there was a weird sort of disconnect. I'm hoping they address the Sawyer-gun issues soon.

I dunno, the only people who know where the guns are would be Charlie, and Sawyer, chances are Sawyer moved them already so, why don't they just kill him.