What did you think?

It was a good character development episode.. and more Henry talking smack is always entertaining :p

I loved it. After such a long break, some adorable Jin and Sun was just what I needed. :smile: The Henry/Jack/Locke/Sayid/Ana/Charlie bit wasn't bad either.

I'm just so happy to have my Lost back!
:79:

One of their best, they showed a side of Henry that we didn't know.

I liked all the twists but it wasn't that great

Because it needs to be said more than once I shall repeat.....

Rubbish, boring, Soap Opera-like, Lame all around waste of an hour of my life.

As The Island Turns.

But the action scenes were great...Oh wait, there wernt any....

Nice to come back to after 2 weeks......superb

EDIT>>>>> you said it so well Dangerdork.....A steaming pile it was

Show of hands.

Who would like to see Sayid continue to smack Henry around?

i really enjoyed tonites epi. i love sun and jin's story. i can't wait for next week's. and i have to agree that i'm happy to have lost back too. and for awhile :)

Good character dev episode:) Can't wait for next weeks.

Not bad, but nothing special. I didn't enjoy it as much as Maternity Leave... it was a little disappointing to have waited two weeks for the ep.

I enjoyed this ep very much. It was so great to watch the Jin/Sun dynamic.
And what fun when Locke & Jack realized that they had been left out of the loop for once.

I wouldn't say it's their "best," but I liked it a lot.

Because of Henry at the very end, I would say it's one of their best.

~Amy

Not great - but there were a few funny moments I quite enjoyed. Locke telling Jack that Ana Lucia was already in with Henry made me giggle. The Sawyer Daddio scene was cute and the Charlie gun-psych to Ana Lucia was funny. Overall, I give it a C+.

I will watch this episode like 5 more times!!!!!!!

Not the best episode was not on the edge of my seat like I normally am but still a good episode Best Sun/Jin flashback. This epsode made me like Jin/Sun more.

I wonder what the ratio of men to women there is who actually liked this eppy.

oh henry's back talk and charlie's gun psych made it good

^was it in bobcaygeon where you saw the constellations reveal themselves one star at a time?

I thought it was a good set up episode. It put in place lots of great things to come. And Henry... is creepy.

I was sort of wary when I listened to the podcast this morning and the producers called it a warm and fuzzy episode. I figured it would be all fluff and no substance. I think it was perfectly balanced between finding answers and character development. The end had a nice payoff which gave a relatively quiet episode a nice kick at the end...which was almost startling. :)

Good EP for Jin/Sun giving substance to their story line. Few kickers to follow the name on the Tester for pregnacy, the Dharma logo on the box of ceral... The jabs, jivs and setups for what to come... cool

Henry IS creepy. You can always see when his mind starts cranking out ways to cause dissention in the hatch.
Gawd, but I love this show! Every ep is fun to watch; although, as with all shows, some are better than others.

SO looking forward to next week!

Not bad, but nothing special.

Could have been better imo, but hopefully next week's episode could make up for it.

And I'm STILL a fan of Ana-Lucia!
But I'd rather watch the original Lostaways, of course.

I personally liked this episode for a couple of reasons.

(1) Character development. We get to see more on the relationship between Jin and Sun, the push and pull mini fights between Jack and Locke, a little piece of the relationship between Bernard and Rose, and finally we get an understanding about how Syhid feels about Ana Lucia's involvement in Shannon's Death.

(2) Plot development. We are finally starting to see some long running subplots come to an end. The whole question about who Henry Gale is looks like it is about to be wrapped up. Also now that we know that Sun is pregnant, we also now know that this will probably be a major story line in Season 3 or 4.

Thought The Whole Truth was okay but had nothing particularly compelling. Either Sun is lying about how she got pregnant, or it's the island "curing" Jin's problem the way it healed Locke right after the crash. Also nothing new with Henry interrogated by Ana-Lucia. The hook of Henry's speech at the end, plus next week's Lockdown promo should help, but I'll predict viewership bottomed out this week, a bit below the season low of 16.43 million for the last new episode three weeks ago.

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I forget how much I like the characters Sun and Jin.

i would think that the previous episode would positively impact the ratings for this week, and the break would negatively impact it. whether this episode was good or not has more an effect on next week's, than this week.

not bad, but nothing special.

I did catch myself talking to the television a few times though. Jin made me mad, I did not forgive his temper tantrum. I was glad to see a flashback from someone besides Sawyer or Jack or Kate.. it seems like it has been forever... although I know it hasn't. That Henry Gale gives me the creeps. I love it!

Oh and Charlie said "bum" *giggle*

Henry at the end, eating the cereal, salvaged the episode. Otherwise it was fairly mundane.

One thing: Lost has GOT to stop having so many off-weeks. It really kills the momentum. My one friend missed it because he simply forgot it was on tonight. They need a system like "24", which is on every week so it's impossible to forget.

It was interesting. The best part was Henry's manipulative banter at the end of the episode. If this guy isn't an Other he still knows more and IS a lot more than he lets on.

I'm a fan of character and plot development, so I really enjoyed this episode. They can't all be action packed. Plus, those that are often leave more questions unanswered than this type of episode. Ad I loved the ending - agree, that Hg is creepy.

Agreed, Lost_in_CA! This episode had some great character development - Sun and Jin, Ana, Sayid, Henry, etc. I can understand that if you're into action and the island mythology this episode might not be your thing, but I adore the characters, so I really liked this episode! :smile:

It was a good episode, but I really wanted to get some answers.

I thought it was pretty good, Ill probably like it more once I watch it a few more times.

I loved it. Lost was absolutely excellent this week. Everyone's entitled to their negative opinion, it doesn't bother me any, we're here to share our thoughts, not bash anyone for what they think. But I must say, it was an awesome episode. Great job to the entire Lost crew!

I had to rate the episode not bad , but nothing special , which I think of as being a "C" grade. "C " when compared to all the great Lost episodes.

I really enjoyed the last Jin and Sun flashback , but this one has to be my least fave.:ohwell:

I was really enjoying Henry Gollum in this episode . I don't care if he is an other or just an unlucky guy, because he is always entertaining.:smile:

Not bad, but nothing special

I was still riveted to the TV like I always am with a new episode of Lost... it wasn't spectacular, but it was ok. Like everyone else has said, the best parts were with Henry Gale and the scenes with Ana Lucia, Charlie, and Sayid. I really think that this episode (really big on backstory and character dev) would (and will) work better when you don't have to wait 3 weeks after Maternity Leave (super-mythology episode).

I really like Henry Gale as a character. The way he was echoing what people have been saying on the forums was awesome ("You people aren't curious at all!"). I just hope they don't kill him off like they did Arzt. His little monologue at the end while he was eating the Dharma cereal was great. RANDOM THEORY: What if Henry Gale is really Kelvin? It would make his remark about "What's the computer for?" more interesting...

This episode really feels like the calm before the storm...

Good character dev episode:) Can't wait for next weeks.
Have to agree.
Just because things don’t blow up or people don’t get hurt, doesn’t mean it’s a bad episode.
My attention span will allow me to wait for the story to develop. To build not only the mystery but the characters as well.
Loved it!

Poss spoiler
I will now cry my eyes out when Sun looses the baby
That is how GREAT story telling is done.

This was the first break in which I lost some interest in Lost. I thought that once it started up again I would regain the interest but this episode was a snooze fest. I realize that this epi set up things to come and not all episodes can be mystery revealing, action filled adventures. I'm sure the weeks to come will see thing get back to "normal".

Not bad, but nothing special

Though the show was lacking in "action" scenes, until the end, I liked the backstory on Jin and Sun, and felt it was necessary for their character developments. It's going to be interesting to find out if, in fact, Sun's pregnancy is another island "miracle".

And as for Henry...GOSH! That man scares me! He always knows the right thing to say.

I would also like to thank Ana for having the smarts to ask Henry the question we've all had on our minds, "How come you have no beard?" You go girl!!!

And, last, but certainly not least, dayum Hurley...no wonder you aren't losing weight. Exactly how much goodies do you have hidden away? Gotta love Hurley :)

I thought it was a solid "C" as well. There were things that just did not line up.

Sun told her "Teach me English" friend that she wanted to learn English because she was leaving Jin and going to L.A. Isn't that where Jin was headed? Wasn't she actually supposed to leave him in Sydney? I assume that if she was really leaving him, she would not abandon him in Sydney and then fly to the same city he was headed for.

Jin's tantrum at Sun's garden? I didn't buy that either. That was season one Jin, the guy who fought with Michael over the watch. After his misadventure with the other raftees, I thought he had come to terms with how much he really loved and respected Sun. To see him rip up the garden she has worked so hard on in a fit of anger had me thinking the writers have already forgotten the whole Raft/Others/Tailaways story.

I'd also like to add that if I were kidnapped while working in my garden and seriously injured, I'd be very unlikely to go back to that garden solo. With 40 some odd people, surely Sun could have found someone to go with her.

Why didn't Locke ask AL what she and Henry talked about when she came out? He sends her in there to interrogate the guy and then doesn't bother to ask her what she found out? C'mon!! :confused:

How does drawing a map to a balloon "prove" that Henry is not an Other? All it would prove is that he knows where there is a downed balloon on the island. And that he was either the pilot, or he was an Other and was using it to concoct a cover-story.

I was disappointed.
More questions, no answers. It especially infuriated me that I can't be sure if Sun is telling the truth or not. If I have to sit through an episode like that and feel that I will have to sit through another one just like it in which we find out that Sun did sleep with Mr. Bald Hotel Man, it leaves me let down.
I really don't know if I can believe that everyone on the island is so stupid that they won't tell each other things like new hatches and talk about where Michael and Walt are or try to get off the island again. What the hell else do they have to do?!
If Sayid totally forgives Ana-Lucia and/or he starts making pretty, secluded huts for her, I'm out.
This mini-rant has been building up for weeks now. Maybe next week will cure me of my Lost disillusionment.

Thanks,
VJ

**wearing my poster hat...putting down MOD badge...**

There was about five minutes of way above average moments...Henry at the table..."Do you have any milk?" was BRILLIANT...Charlie's snark toward Ana...PRICELESS...the backstory? Snoozer...total filler...completely uncompelling...why introduce yet another mystery (Sun and did she didn't she where did it come from?) that really adds nothing...how about...um...do we remember Michael? Walt? The medical hatch? Why stack something else on top of so many other unanswered questions?

I am hoping this "pregnancy" opens at least a door to some kind of experiment that is happening to our Losties and not just a throwaway...

I was let down! I wanted more and didn't get it. I feel they keep on playing around with the Characters we love. I want the writers to be consistent with the character development.

I am afraid that the Sun/Jin story line just bores me to tears. I don't hate the characters..I don't want them to die but I just don't CARE about their story. I barely care that Sun is pregnant.

However I DID like the island stuff. Henry in the hatch (sounds like the name of a song!:D) and the trek of the brave but snarky and yet contemplative balloonies.

This is potentially the best show on tv. great acting, great writting and a cool story. the problem is that more questions are ALWAYS raised then are answered. Frankly it is getting a bit tiresome. My wife has already stoped watching and I am not far awayif some of the MAJOR questions are not answered

Not bad - I find Sun/Jin episodes a little slow, but I don't mind it since they have a very sweet story. It's a nice change of pace from the sitting on the edge of my seat, nail biting, hands on face (ala Macauley Culkin in Home Alone) that I usually experience during Lost. Loved the Henry scenes as well as the scenes with the Baloonies. Overall not too bad, but I'm now ready for more oomph...

I thought it was a good episode, but it was a little predictable. I guessed every twist, but the character interactions were great this week. Everyone was getting their little digs in with each other.

I rated it above average, but mainly for the Island story not Sun's flashbacks.
It was nice when Jin said I love you in English.

I liked Ana in this one. She seems to be learning from her mistakes.

I liked the episode Sun and Jin were very interesting in it. They are brilliant together.
I was disappointed at the end. As Henry was speaking i was expecting us to see Charlie, Ana & Sayid, but it just ended.

In all it was a good episode.

I enjoyed this episode very much. Two things I'm still trying to decide on:

1) Is the baby Jin's? and 2) Is Henry an Other?

I'm torn. Sun didn't look like she was confident that the baby was Jin's and the writers did allude to an affair with the bald guy. Hmmm..... :undecide:

Also, Henry was definitely being a bit devious last night. The only thing that is making me not totally think he is an Other is based on next week's promo where they show Sayid, Ana & Charlie looking up at the deflated balloon which proves that there really was a balloon but Henry was pretty creepy last night so I DON'T KNOW!!!!!:o

After such a long wait, I was hoping for better.

Next week looks good.

Great episode, although it did have the first English subtitle mistake. Dr. Kim, when he is talking with Sun on the sidewalk, says (in English subtitles), "You're husband..." Should have been "Your husband..."

Hmm...I have to admit that this episode didn't do a whole lot for me. The entire episode (flashbacks and most of the island story) was about Sun's pregnancy, which the viewers knew about ten minutes in, even if we hadn't been speculating about it online since last season. There's a little remaining drama in the questions, "Is Jin the father?, "Will he find out?", but c'mon, that's soap opera stuff. Not bad in small doses, but you can't build a precious hour of Lost around that. At least someone could have said, "With all the child-nappers around here, let's hope we get rescued before her third trimester."

The other thread (the continuing enigma of Henry Gale) was far more interesting, and Jin's "I need you" speech was vintage Lost, but aside from a few classic lines, like "Jack and Locke are too busy worrying about Locke and Jack", it didn't have that Lost feel to it. And Hurley calling Sun "dude" was funny the first time, and even worth a chuckle the second time, but don't beat it to death.

I got the strong impression that this was the first episode they had filmed after a long break. The actors looked more tanned and fresher somehow, especially Sawyer, Kate, and Hurley. Maybe everyone was a little rusty, I don't know. But it felt like an episode of "just another show". If this was the first episode I ever saw, I don't know how tempted I would be to watch the following week, despite the great cliffhanger. One character who was totally "on", though, was Charlie. He's developing a 'nothing to lose' edginess about him, making him a lot of fun to follow. His smirk when Jack and Locke were mentioned and his baiting of Ana Lucia were perfect. He's turning into one of my favorite characters to watch, and I am so glad he's out of the pure comic relief role. It would be a totally cool development if he was leading Sayid and Ana into a trap. Why did he risk getting caught with the gun? Is it even loaded? And....how did he know that Henry was even down there?

Despite those few shining moments, I had to say, "Totally sub-par." Especially after the brilliant, fast-paced, previous episode. I'm sure everyone will have their second wind for the Season 2 homestretch, though.

Just what I did NOT want!!
Lost Drama!!
No progress on the island, we aren't any closer to finding anything important out-- what a bummer!!
Seems like one of those filler episodes to me!!
2 Thumbs Down!!!!

I never have liked the Jin & Sun flashbacks. They just dont interest me.
And what kind of mind game was Henry trying to play at the end? Is he trying to get them to trust him or not? Even if they find the balloon and a grave nearby, I still wont believe his story!

i would think that the previous episode would positively impact the ratings for this week, and the break would negatively impact it. whether this episode was good or not has more an effect on next week's, than this week.

Generally, yes, but there are many factors and it makes it complex. Whether the March 1 episode (the last new one, which drew the up-until-then season low of 16.43 million viewers) was moderately good or bad will have had relatively little to do with viewership going up or down last night. Likewise the rerun last week, which drew even worse than usual (7.16 million). It was the three week break, plus strengthening American Idol competition, plus a lackluster promo/blurb for last night's ep, and the lack of much happening in the Lost series arc, that all argued in favor of a continuation of the downtrend. That's what happened based on the preliminary numbers -- 15.98 million, so down about a half million viewers.

My comments on last night were mainly part of my prediction that the ratings would "bottom out", i.e. that last night would be the low point and it would pick up a bit next week. The episode itself wouldn't be responsible for that, it's just that it wasn't awful so there'd be no further downward pressure due to that next week. The hiatus is over so people will get back to watching regularly, and the Henry speech (did he really set a trap?) plus the promo with the blast doors being activated and so on is a reasonably good hook to prevent many more viewers from dropping off. There's also an inertia effect, which is to say that ratings don't keep going down forever if something isn't really pushing them down, and I think most of the downward pressure is behind Lost at this point. I think it could be back up close to 20 million again by season end if it has some interesting stuff on screen the next several episodes (I'm not really following spoilers so I don't know). If not, at least 16-18 million.

7 out of 10. Pretty good but the preview was amazing.

Henry is totally creepy, loved the Charlie psych-out & the expression on his face ... there are so many subtleties to the characters facial expressions, so much is communicated without words ... that being said, below par episode, I agree, as the Island turns -- not my cuppajoe either. Next week looks much better (but then so did this week's eppy in last week's preview).

where's the monster????

sign me still hopeful, at least we're not in rerun hell any more

I really loved the scenes between John and Jack. The Sun/Jin stuff was okay.
I didn't hate the other scenes, but we really didn't get anywhere this week.

It was just OK for me. I was a little let down after waiting for 2 weeks. But it looks like next week's ep will be a good one!

It was just ok for me. It was a nice little backstory for Sun and Jin. But after 2 weeks of no new Lost, I would have preferred more exciting island stuff. It finally got good in the end with Henry. Next week's episode looks like an exciting one, but I won't give anything away.

Excellent episode, definitely one of the best this season. Even though the flashbacks went back to their S1 tone, with Sun and Jin, I can generally tolerate a lot more cheesiness than with other characters.

Loved the new interactions on the island: Locke/A-L, Gale/A-L, Charlie/A-L and more insight into the Bernard/Rose dynamic.

Extra points for almost no Kate. Missed Eko, though.

Sayid and A-L -- some great chemistry there, as always. (Side note: I'm not a shipper. I don't like shippers.)

And Gale rocks. Like, seriously. I'd sacrifice half of the main cast just to see that guy get more screen time. Wonderfully written, fantastic performance, and I hope he doesn't die any time soon.

Can't wait for Lockdown. :cool:

An excellent episode. Almost better than "...In Translation." Defintely better than "Maternity Leave," for sure--well, not in terms of Other/Dharma plot development, I'll grant, but almost nothing has come out of that whole storyline in an entire season and a half, so I don't really know why people got so excited about some unidentified medicines in a random hatch. The big plot point happening right now, Henry Gale, is starting to boil, and that's good enough for me.

I agree this might not have been the best episode to put out after a three-week hiatus, but the producers don't control the schedule and they shouldn't be writing for arbitrary deadlines anyway. And I really believe that when people look back at "Lost" a couple years from now, "The Whole Truth" will be up there as a highlight. This is an episode that will withstand the test of time.

I found it interesting that this kind of episode (in terms of who it focused on) ranked fairly low on my list of favorite episodes in the first season. I just wasn't as intrigued with the characters in question at the time. Now that some momentum has gathered for their relationship and backstory, I'm finding them a lot more worthwhile to the depth of the series. It helped alleviate the fact that this was a transitional episode, which has been a challenge to the writing staff earlier in the season.

Here's my review for Lost 2.16: "The Whole Truth":

http://www.entil2001.com/series/lost/season2/lost2-16.html

Overall, this episode is clearly a transitional step, setting the stage for more significant events in the next installment. The writers take the time afforded by this move to introduce another element with multiple levels of possible interpretation, but one that fits rather nicely into events past and “present”. Another good solid episode to round out the “complication” phase of the season.

I totally loved this epi! I was sooo excited about Sun being pregnant that I did not stop to consider what chain of events the future might hold with her being pregnant on the island.

I thought it was really good. I liked the Sun/Jin flashback a little more than their other flashbacks. I'm loving the Henry Gale character, he was definitely a strong point in this episode. Loved the psyche out Charlie pulled on Ana.

For every one of these polls some people rate the episode " Best Hour of TV ever broadcast". Does anyone realize how absolutely ridiculous that is? I'd love for someone to justify how this episode is the best hour of TV ever broadcast.

Show of hands.

Who would like to see Sayid continue to smack Henry around?

:78:

Or at least can Jack please tell him to shut up?

"The Whole Truth" was the second Jin & Sun-centric episode of Season Two. The episode itself was a more character driven affair rather than an Easter Egg/island mythology heavy episode.

Tonight's backstory fits inside the timeframe of the earlier flashback from this season and the flashback of Sun actually putting the plan in motion to leave Jin at the Sydney Airport. Tonight we learn that Sun learned English from her former arranged beau, Jae Lee, and that Jin, thanks to working for her father, strikes fear into the hearts of other Korean men. This time it's a fertility doctor. The doctor lies to Jin and Sun, telling the couple that Sun has a problem with her plumbing when in reality it is actually Jin who has trouble with his little swimmers. The reason why the doctor lies? He's afraid that Jin will burn down his practice if he were to find out "the whole truth."

On the island are two prominent storylines: Jin and Sun's relationship and the mounting tension between Jack and Locke thanks to the man in the Hatch, Henry Gale.

Sun and Jin's storyline starts with the pair having a fight and ending with Jin proclaiming his love for her in English. The one question that still hangs over this pair is can Jin understand English? Once in Season One and again tonight, the audience hears what Jin hears and it seems like he's hearing a foreign language (Korean?) or the dialogue backwards when the other Losties speak. So does he understand a little or none or can he not translate the words fast enough? He does tell Sun he needs her to help him understand what's happening on the island.

Sun suspects that she is pregnant after feeling faint on the beach. Rose and Bernard think Aaron may have made her sick. Sun knows better. She approaches Sawyer for a pregnancy test, which he has, oddly enough. Sun takes the Widmore Labs (more on that in a moment) pregnancy test into the jungle and shares a fun cat that ate the canary moment with Hurley. He gets snagged with food from his stash and she gets caught with a pregnancy test. The two pretend they didn't really notice what the other was doing and then Sun, with the help of Kate, reads the pregnancy test: Positive! Enter the self-righteous Jack who offers his two cents on the subject telling Sun to explain "the whole truth" to Jin. Which she does (as far as we know!) This leads Jin to declare the pregnancy a miracle. Is it a miracle or did "the island" make this happen? It fixed Locke's legs, why not Jin's lazy sperm? That could be one possibility. Another could be that Sun was holding back a fraction of "the whole truth" from Jin despite Jack's advice.

The other storyline revolved around Henry Gale. Jack and Locke have become even more distrustful of each ever since Henry Gale arrived inside the Hatch. Locke goes behind Jack's back and approaches Ana Lucia to interrogate Henry Gale to see what she can find out about him. His reasons? She has had contact with the Others before and she was a cop. Plus, he wants Henry Gale out of the Hatch--"my Hatch"--as Locke refers to it.

Henry Gale, after talking with Ana Lucia, draws a map to his balloon and the grave of his wife (One question: how would Gale know where the balloon is from The Hatch? He was carried there unconscious by Sayid.). She taps Sayid and Charlie (who's packing heat) for this adventure. Why Sayid and Charlie? In Ana Lucia's words: "Jack and Locke are too worried about Locke and Jack" to have brought the information to them. The real question here, however, is what were Sayid and Charlie building before Ana Lucia pulled them away from their work? And who told Charlie there was a prisoner in the Hatch? And wasn't Charlie acting a little big for his own britches teasing Ana Lucia with the gun before handing it to Sayid? (He still has to atone for his actions against Sun before he can be fun loving Charlie again!)

The end of the episode was the money scene. Jack, Locke, and Henry Gale sitting at the table in the Hatch over a bowl of DHARMA-O's (The box reads:dI9fftr731). Henry puts his creepy pants on big time. He questions the two men about the computer. He questions them about the cereal and how long its been inside the Hatch. He attempts to divide them once again spilling that he gave a map to Ana Lucia knowing that each man will think the other one was holding out. He very artfully plays these two men against each other in this scene building on what he attempted to do to Locke at the end of "Maternity Leave" and to Jack in a far more subtle way before Jack leads him to the breakfast nook.

The creepiness gets amped up even more when he details that he could really have laid a trap for Ana Lucia, Sayid, and Charlie with the map. He could have done that if he was an Other,as he says, He refers to the Others as the people Locke and Jack "seem to think are your enemies". Does he know otherwise? Gale goes onto say that he could have drawn Ana Lucia's little group into an ambush in a cave or in some underbrush for the Others to capture. Then, in turn, the Others could use the trio as a bargaining chip for Henry's return. Now the Others have already used Kate as a bartering tool so it is within their scope to use such a tactic.

There were at least two Easter Eggs last night. The first being Locke holding up the Geronimo Jackson album in the Hatch. He was actually listening to "Pushing Too Hard" by The Seeds, a garage band from the 60s. http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4265/600/200/lost.widmore-725251.jpg (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4265/600/1600/lost.widmore-725251.jpg)The second, and perhaps the more important of the two, was the pregnancy test. Yes, it was bizarre that the test was there in the first place (as Kate noted to Sun) but what made it even more bizarre was that the company on the test's box was Widmore Labs. Yes, the very same Widmore that is also a construction company who's sign was hanging on a building in the earlier Charlie flashback episode, "Fire + Water." (Would a company be in both construction and fertility? Now that's diversified!) And on the literary front, Sawyer was reading Judy Blume's classic coming of age tale, Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret. How that story ties into Lost I'm not sure, but there it was in Sawyer's hands last night. And The Brother's Karamazov was once again a focal point as it was the novel that Henry Gale has been reading thanks to Locke, quoting to Jack, and the map was drawn on the title page of this classic.


It looks like in next week's episode "Lockdown", a Locke-centric episode, all hell's going to break loose inside the Hatch. Henry appears to get loose. The Hatch's speakers begin to feedback (There might have been a female voice in that feedback as well. In the a female voice clearly can be heard counting down as the Hatch locks itself down.) and the blast doors drop with Locke trapped inside. Ana Lucia and Charlie find the balloon in the jungle and Sayid will end up in the Hatch with his gun trained on someone, most likely Henry. The teaser proclaims that five events will unfold next week. The flashbacks in this episode appear to be centered around a funeral with Helen and Locke in attendance. Locke's father (rumored to be the real Sawyer) will be returning along with Sayid's love interest from Iraq, Nadia (whether on the island or in a flashback is unclear).

Just a few other rumors and spoilers to surface over the last week Rose and Bernard will have a flashback episode before season's end and Rose will have a connection to Locke in her past. One of the big rumors floating around is that Bernard and Henry are going to be brothers. Someone on the island according to the Lost diary and rumor has it that Bernard is just that person. (Have we ever heard Rose and Bernard's last name spoken on the show?) Michael will be returning in May and the key to downing Oceanic Flight 815 will be revealed. The series is also rumored to be taking even darker twists and turns before Season Two wraps and more will be revealed about the Others, but not too much.


Personally, it has nothing to do with the excessive breaks, which have sucked admittedly, but it has more to do with slotting Season One episodes into the schedule. Why the hiatuses worked in Season One and continually brought new viewers in at different points in the season (myself included) was that the reruns, both during the season and the summer, helped to get viewers acclimated with the established storylines and jump in feet first with the new episodes without being terribly lost (sorry!) within the plotlines. If ABC wasn't so greedy about Lost, which its executives refer to as an "asset" not a series, fearing that rerunning Season Two episodes during the hiatuses would cut down on folks shilling out $1.99 an episode on iTunes, it wouldn't have alienated the casual Lostfans, allowing people to jump in at any time. Even those clip shows like "Revelation" helped to draw the casual fan into the mythologies of the series. If it weren't for the reruns during Season One, it would never have become the phenomenon it had become by the end of the first season.
The way things have played out this season, it's very hard to keep track of every detail that has transpired between "Man of Science, Man of Faith" through last night's "The Whole Truth." I think I will enjoy Season Two even more watching it straight through on the DVD set than in the choppy format of this season.

There are only eight hours (or seven episodes) left in Season Two! Don't forget--the next three weeks--three new Lost episodes! Then a week off and then the season winds itself up with a chunk of new episodes leading to the second season two hour finale on May 24!

This show was a let down. How nice, Sun can have a baby but is it the miracle of the island or did she have an affair with her tutor? Too much of a soap opera to me. The only cute part was realizing there was no need to announce it because everyone on the island probably already knows it.

Now why didn't Anna-Lucia not tell Jack & Locke about the map to the balloon? How stupid is that? People are always running off into the woods and no one seems to notice or care. Hmmm Sayid, A-L and Charlie went on a two-day hike - wonder why.

That whole Henry thing is so stupid. I mean, if I were beat up by these guys would I provoke them with talk of traps and mistrust? No, keep your mouth shut. Wake up everyone one - he's one of THEM!

If it weren't for half naked Jack and a glimps of Sawyer the whole viewing would have been a waste of time.

I really enjoyed this epi for one simple reason - the maternity episode was a total let down for me because when she pulls the trees and crap down and there's big garbage bag pulled off to reveal the medical hatchy place the island suddenly seemed a plastic sound stage. With Sun's pregnacy, a bit of the mysticism of the island has been restored. Just a thought.

Great episode in that it opens up quite a few doors in the upcoming weeks for possible storylines.

Great episode in that it opens up quite a few doors in the upcoming weeks for possible storylines.

LOL, that's what the last episode did, Tepster. And the one before that opened a different set. And the one before that. And so on.

The writers apparently have decided it is more fun to make doors than go through the ones that already exist.

LOL, that's what the last episode did, Tepster. And the one before that opened a different set. And the one before that. And so on.

The writers apparently have decided it is more fun to make doors than go through the ones that already exist.
To be fair, though, we got big-time closure on some long-standing questions in the previous episode. I'm still hopeful that they're going to kick it into high gear for the homestretch.

Just want to add that I enjoyed your insights in your earlier post in this thread - I've noticed that your posts in these episode threads are typically very thoughtful and worth reading.

I thought this episode was just so-so. Not bad, but nothing to write home about.

I think the show has lost a lot of momentum with the long breaks, and I no longer have the sense of anticipation I used to with new episodes. Maybe that's why this one didn't do much for me?

That said, I think that the characters of Sun and Jin are very interesting and I find myself making an emotional connection to those two, more so than some of the other characters on the show.

Let's hope next week lights a fire underneath this show, I think it needs it.

After weeks and weeks of annoying on-again, off-again... What a steaming pile of garbage. Worst episode ever. I am too disgusted with the producers to even bother to comment further.


Hopefully they will eventually get back on the right track, and I'll look forward to visiting the 'Lage when I'm able to generate any enthusiasm for Lost.

I think your enthusiasm is still there, being the first one to post/ the maker of this thread.:)
100%
Because it needs to be said more than once I shall repeat.....

Rubbish, boring, Soap Opera-like, Lame all around waste of an hour of my life.

As The Island Turns.

this is only my opinion. i just think you just didnt get it. when we watch a hurley episode, it is a black comedy. when it's sawyer, film noirish: jack's e.r. days, a medical drama. sun and jin's are definitely koreanovelas in type, a soap opera-like drama from korea. i love sun and jin and their soap things as much as you like your action. the show caters to different people, and i think this ep is not rubbish at all...

Not that great. It is getting bad when the promo for the next episode is the best part of the show. Very dissappointed.

I really enjoyed the last episode, so much...I am kinda of thinking right now, I want to change my vote to best hour of Television ever broadcast. (let me think about this some more).hmmmmmm, contemplates...be back later. :)

I voted "Definitely one of their best.", though perhaps that was a bit too optimistic, after reading what everyone else has posted... While I agree that this episode is definetely setting up future plotlines (as all good episodes should), I also feel the content was worthwhile and not just "filler" (as some have posted).

I believe Sun when she told Jin that she hadn't been with another man, so I am of the opinion that the "island" had something to do with the pregnancy, much like it gave Locke the ability to walk again, and I think that with what we know of the Others' child-knapping ways, it stands to reason that there was some kind of miracle conception involved.

As for Henry Gale... the plot thickens. I have no doubt now that he's an Other, after what he said to Jack and Locke about setting a trap, etc. If he's not an Other than he's either seriously deranged or an idiot for saying incriminating things like that.

Only time will tell, and that is one thing that I am allowing the writers to do: to take their time with this story. I don't want all the answers now, and I don't NEED all the answers now, because then this is all over. Patience, my friends, patience. :smile:

I think your enthusiasm is still there, being the first one to post/ the maker of this thread.:)
100%
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Dangerdork started making the poll earlier this season. Karri has been copying an earlier poll and topping it in the last few episode threads giving Dangerdork the credit for the poll.So, the poll will be in the episode thread whether Dangerdork likes the epi or not.:)

I voted "not bad, but nothing special". I had talked my husband into watching Lost again since he stopped after "Fire + Water" but he said he is stopping again after this episode. He is bored with waiting for something to happen on the island.

finally got round to viewing the epi...not bad, not bad. definitely left me with a warm glow (and wanting to chop off Henry's head, urgh, creepy git)

i always groan when its a sun/jin episode but i always end up enjoying them and this wasnt an exception, i think it must be down to brilliant acting, both are subtlely interesting characters too.

and - heart attack - i actrually liked AL this episode. kcik me out of the hate club or not, but she actually had a purpose for once, and Charlie knocking her down was so dman good.

Charlie excellent too.

Jack coming out of shower ditto:biggrin:


uh, bad points...guess there wasnt anything really bad about it, some epis have been really patchy but this one at least maintained goodness. if that makes sense.

Show of hands.

Who would like to see Sayid continue to smack Henry around?

I would! but then again torture usually only gets you the answers you want to hear

This is crazy. I voted nothing special, but every Lost episode IS special. Oh the irony:ohwell:

I just watched it again last night to get ready for tonight, and I liked it a LOT better the second time. Last night I was struck by the subtlety of the various actor's faces, and remembered why I loved Kurosawa's films, how so much was expressed just on faces with no dialogue (does anyone else remember The Demon in the Pond -- Demon Pond? whatever it was called. spectacular. wonder if its out somewhere on DVD -- anyone know?) OK, I digress, but that was what I really loved last night. Charley's face was wonderful, talk about twinkling eyes! I was laughing so hard! so glad to see it, so hated when he was on the dark side ...

and Henry? good God! he is so creepy! wonderful acting. and what WAS that thing Sayid and Charlie were building? Not to mention Sun and how the heck did she get together with the hotel owner's son to teach her English? and what happened after they stood there almost but not quite leaning towards each other .... yearning maybe? he sure is cute.

so looking forward to tonight. For a few minutes I was kind of going off Lost, but not any more!

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I realized watching the finale there is a very thin line between tragedy and farce. I spent much of the 2 hours laughing. They have Lost their way, it seems. Too many characters and twists for all but the obsessed to follow. They should get back to the core group of characters that made the first season such a success, and recall the KISS principle. Otherwise, I think the show is destined to become a cult failure. The numbers really are the key here-Nielson ratings and website traffic numbers.

I didn't rate episodes in season 2 and now I want to go back and add my vote because I feel the ratings are skewed towards people who are into mythology and not character development.