Charlie
01-19-2005, 09:03 PM
Well I don't know what to say right now, lol..... wow
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View Full Version : Claire! Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:03 PM Well I don't know what to say right now, lol..... wow Haeddre 01-19-2005, 09:04 PM I almost had a heart-attack! Was she still pregnant? autumnscars 01-19-2005, 09:05 PM Could anyone tell if she was still pregnant or not? adrienne 01-19-2005, 09:05 PM Boy do I feel the same! *I had a feeling she'd be back because I saw Emilie's name in the credits and I didn't see it last week and then they showed the clip from when she was taken so that kinda made me think a bit more. *I cannot believe it! * :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:06 PM She didn't look pregnant to me. Wow, I wish I had taped it now. ELTaino74 01-19-2005, 09:07 PM I bet any amount of money that she is not pregnant. *Ethan took the baby, i know he did. Willow7697 01-19-2005, 09:07 PM i got so excited..... and then they said that next week is a freakin rerun.... she didnt look pregnent TerryLost 01-19-2005, 09:08 PM CLAIRE!!! That was unexpected! I don't think she was still pregnant. Not sure. Whoa! What an epi! CharliesFate4 01-19-2005, 09:08 PM OMG I thought I was going to fall off my chair! *I really couldn't tell if she was still pregnant or not I couldn't tell. autumnscars 01-19-2005, 09:08 PM This show is just so freaking awesome!!!!! I didnt think she was pregnant either...but I thought I would come and consult with the experts, lol :) Lost_In_Louisiana 01-19-2005, 09:09 PM :( We taped it and rewatched that part ---- She didn't look pregnant anymore * :-[ We think the "others" took her baby for their own purposes..... LostIslandRain 01-19-2005, 09:09 PM I taped it and watched when she appeared a few times. Claire does not appear pregnant! *She is thin around the mid section. lostfan88 01-19-2005, 09:09 PM I'm soooo happy Claire's back but I forgot there's going to be another break. NOOOOOOO How many weeks do we have to wait this time? *:'( I couldn't tell if she was pregnant or not, but she did look thinner. It might have been just because she was behind some bushes though.... Charlie was adorable (again) in this episode. I laughed while he was deciding to read her diary or not. Claire's dream sheds some light into why she may have been taken... Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:10 PM I don't think that ANYONE is going to be able to prove for SURE that she wasn't pregnant, not from the short clip we just saw. And yeah, I really, really, was not expecting that to happened. AudBall 01-19-2005, 09:11 PM I couldn't tell! I was spoiled for this episode and there was NOTHING on this!!!! I believe the term is OH MY GAWD! adrienne 01-19-2005, 09:12 PM The moment I heard the rustling trees, I told my sis "What if it's Claire?" *she said that she didn't think it was and then Claire just magically appeared! *I, too, have a feeling that Ethan took the baby. *BTW, in her diary, who did she say she hated? *I saw names and it said "I HATE HIM!" * I saw what she wrote about Charlie though. Earendil 01-19-2005, 09:12 PM She didn't look like she was still pregnant. I will have to re watch after Point Plesant to be sure. Oh my. That was a great ep. LostWord 01-19-2005, 09:14 PM She definitely didn't appear pregnant to me. Interesting Boone and Locke are out looking for Vincent and Claire suddenly pops out of the woods. I can't believe they are making us wait through another two weeks or whatever of reruns before we find out more. Argh! Lost-In-Homework 01-19-2005, 09:15 PM I rewatched it and saw that she did not appear pregnant :o I didn't like the fact of that. The poor baby :'( Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:16 PM I didn't think we ever got a real look at her stomach or anywhere near, maybe it was too fuzzy on my screen, lol. Oh and, do you really think they were looking for Vincent? I don't think so, I think Boone just heard something and thought maybe it was the dog. Lia2141 01-19-2005, 09:17 PM she did't look pregnant at all. she looked really thin lostfan88 01-19-2005, 09:17 PM The moment I heard the rustling trees, I told my sis "What if it's Claire?" *she said that she didn't think it was and then Claire just magically appeared! *I, too, have a feeling that Ethan took the baby. *BTW, in her diary, who did she say she hated? *I saw names and it said "I HATE HIM!" * I saw what she wrote about Charlie though. I was trying to read her diary too, but it was too dark and it didn't fit in the whole TV screen. GRRR My guess is maybe she was mad at Jack for not believing her?? Or Sawyer? Lost-In-Homework 01-19-2005, 09:18 PM I thought they were looking for the dog , He had a dog whistle *:-\ Im not sure what to think right now. Im so confused ??? Hmmm... Maybe the polar bear ate the dog. *:P ewwww. lostfan88 01-19-2005, 09:19 PM They were looking for Vincent, but I guess Claire heard the whistle and found them. LATE 01-19-2005, 09:20 PM I was trying to read her diary too, but it was too dark and it didn't fit in the whole TV screen. GRRR My guess is maybe she was mad at Jack for not believing her?? Or Sawyer? I think the man who got her pregnant then ran away, there looked like a lot of pages written. I'm sure she would have covered that. greeneyes 01-19-2005, 09:21 PM I think we can assume she's not pregnant, why else would Ethan want her over anyone else? Cause she has a baby! She probably wouldn't have gotten free if Ethan wasn't through with her. lostfan88 01-19-2005, 09:22 PM I think the man who got her pregnant then ran away, there looked like a lot of pages written. I'm sure she would have covered that. Ah, that's true... there's a good reason to 'hate him.' Lost-In-Homework 01-19-2005, 09:22 PM She looked a little bruised on the face. But of course. A man tried to get her baby and she is in the jungle. And she is probley thin from not eating. *Just trying to guess what's going on. :-\ Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:22 PM LATE: You didn't see the "Raised by another" show did you? And yeah, I remember the whistle now, lol, I'm just so confused right now. TarHeelTeacher 01-19-2005, 09:24 PM Oh my Lord! I screamed when I saw her. I would be so happy if we didn't have two weeks of reruns before a new episode. That baby better be okay. Phoenix39 01-19-2005, 09:24 PM Okay, WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW!!!! When I saw the person, I thought it was just going one of the other castaways, like Sayid, or Jack. *You know, no biggie. *But when we saw that it was Claire, I literally screamed. *I rewatched that part. *I don't think she was pregnent either! *breaths* *looses train of thought* How the f-ck can they do that to us?! *Making us wait TWO WEEKS!! *What's the point of this break? *Why are they making us wait?! *I might kill somebody waiting TWO WEEKS! LATE 01-19-2005, 09:25 PM LATE:* You didn't see the "Raised by another" show did you? And yeah, I remember the whistle now, lol, I'm just so confused right now. I missed it, yes, ( :( ) but I've read the summarys. *Can't remember her exact story, but I do remember hearing about her boyfriend getting her pregnant, claiming it was okay and eventually flipping out on her. Lost-In-Homework 01-19-2005, 09:25 PM Im more concentrated on the Comic book. And of course clair. But they showed us the pages for a reason. Maybe aliens mutated the polar bears! And the Alien is the monster LOL! :laugh: Oh well just a thought. Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:27 PM LATE: Ok, yeah, I thought you were saying that you "guessed" that her boyfriend left her, when if you had seen that episode, I didn't think you would have said that. Cool :) markl 01-19-2005, 09:27 PM Baby's back at Black Rock with Ethan and his pals - else where would the plot go?? And what was this rumor of Shannon being pg as well? So we do have the rest of the Claire abduction story - one assumes in the Charlie/Claire upcoming episode. Ethan bound to appear before season's end. But we hafta suffer with the rest of Jack's dad story first it seems... Phoenix39 01-19-2005, 09:29 PM I think that diary excerpt: "I HATE HIM" is referring to Tomas. Lost-In-Homework 01-19-2005, 09:30 PM I mean think about it! Why else would they show us. I'm not saying what I thought was right but I know there is a reason ??? It's just so confusing. Why do the comercials be so long I want to see more of the show. Not see advertisments! Goodness! And I don't think Michael is going to build the raft anymore. elfdream 01-19-2005, 09:30 PM I don't see how you all can say she doesn't look pregnant? I re-ran it and her tummy is all dark and in shadow. You can't see it. I personally don't think she is but you really can't tell from that. Maybe someone can grab that frame and post it and we can examine it more closely..but to me you couldn't tell one way or another. Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:31 PM Why would Ethan be bound to show up before the end of the season? Lost-In-Homework 01-19-2005, 09:33 PM I have no clue. They want to make us think! :-\ onpaperwings 01-19-2005, 09:34 PM Baby's back at Black Rock with Ethan and his pals - else where would the plot go?? Does the "Black Rock" remind anyone else of the mountain top in Lord of the Flies?? I mean, if they walk up there in two weeks and find a parachuter...or savage children with painted faces... ::) Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:35 PM Claire looked very thin, I think that's the only thing they're seeing. *But also... I would have expected her to no longer be pregnant. Lost-In-Homework 01-19-2005, 09:36 PM ??? What ??? diabolo237 01-19-2005, 09:36 PM I read somewhere that Claire was going to return, no longer pregnant, so I think its safe to assume she is back without the bambino Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:37 PM It works into this theory I have, hehe. onpaperwings 01-19-2005, 09:40 PM Two separate camps...a character named Jack...I just hope no one ends up like Piggy, Simon or that littl'un!! :o bal1016 01-19-2005, 09:41 PM claire looked bruised/cut up around the face area.. did y'all notice that? markl 01-19-2005, 09:42 PM Why would Ethan be bound to show up before the end of the season? Cause it's all setting up for the battle tween good and evil to climax the season isn't it? Locke's remaning back story being delayed until #19 would perhaps mean that he is the agent between the two sides. *His story coming very late in the season would point to that... And with the abduction of the baby and - here we go again - rumors of Shannon also being pregnant and the Ethan gang would go after her as well... And Boone is being 'trained' by Locke as a second in the 'conflict' to come.. Claire's baby is catalyst to set this up and the 'others' have no reason to keep her after the theft... but this sets up a nice confrontation to come....when the group decides to go after it... Hey - maybe the Polar Bear is pg too! And let's see now, speaking of babies - what about Danielle's story of the abduction of her Alex?? Eh?? bal1016 01-19-2005, 09:44 PM surely they will go see danielle now that claire's baby has been taken ... riiiiiight? Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:44 PM Mmmm.... sounds like Ethan's people are searching for something among newborns. WebLass 01-19-2005, 09:45 PM I have to download the episode before I will have screen captures, but I have to disagree with the majority here and say that Claire WAS still pregnant. Looking at her straight on, it was very hard to tell because of her black shirt and it being night time and all (and the scene only lasted a couple seconds). But you could see the bulge on one side of her where there was some light. Unless my eyes are seeing things! This is going to be the longest two weeks EVER. Kind of an off topic question... why in the WORLD did Kate imply that Claire would just show back up? WHY weren't there people out there trying to find her/rescue her??? That was just so completely crazy sounding to me. As if Claire walked off intentionally. Gah! ~Aimee coastie 01-19-2005, 09:46 PM I don't know about bruised, but she definitely looked filthy. I'm guessing she had been walking or wandering for a day or two at least. Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:47 PM This is going to be the longest two weeks EVER. ^ understatement :) kristin 01-19-2005, 09:48 PM WebLass, that's what's been driving me CRAZY the past couple weeks. *So many little story threads that they leave hanging! *I guess Kate was just trying to be reassuring/strong for Charlie, but it did come across as if she wasn't really all that worried about Claire! Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:49 PM Hey, we have the same pic. I thought you were me for a sec, lol. Yeah, that's what I think too. She was just trying to keep his hope up. greeneyes 01-19-2005, 09:51 PM Even if she wasn't pregnant, she'd still be a little chubby (you can't lose the weight that fast) I am guessing she's not pregnant just because I don't know how she would have gotten free if she was. *Ethan must want her baby. So "the others" took Alex and Claire's child...I wonder what's so great about babies? WebLass 01-19-2005, 09:53 PM Maybe Kate *was* just trying to keep Charlie's hopes up, and maybe I'm wrong that out of a group of strangers there would have been people who *wanted* to possibly risk their lives for somebody they don't even know... but geez. Not looking/not risking your life is one thing. But to assume Claire is just going to waddle her pregnant or not pregnant self back to camp after being KIDNAPPED and her companion almost KILLED... just seems dumb. But then... Kate seems kinda dumb to me, so why am I surprised? ; ) ~Aimee withay 01-19-2005, 09:54 PM I'm in the "Claire is no longer pregnant" camp. It was hard to tell but I never expected her to come back with her baby and the rumors are that the others kept the baby. As far as her diary, I could read that she "really liked" Charlie, she thought he was funny and he "made her feel safe". After that, he turned a page, read something, and ran off to talk to Jack. :) frequent flyer 01-19-2005, 09:54 PM I read the next new eppy isn't until Feb 9 which is THREE weeks away!!! Yaaahhhhhrrrrrgggghhh! Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:56 PM Three weeks?! How!? I heard they were showing Sayid's and then Claire's episodes, that's two! It can't be three, please!! frequent flyer 01-19-2005, 09:57 PM But then it's another week after the second eppy. <sniff> >:( WebLass 01-19-2005, 09:59 PM Teehee, that's only two weeks. January 26 they are replaying Solitary (Sayid eppy), then February 2 they are replaying Raised By Another (Claire eppy). I guess it is technically three weeks away, but it's only two re-runs, not three. Either way... BLEEP! ~Aimee Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:01 PM Ouch... Back to Claire- *I wonder what's so great about babies? Exactly. *Like I said before, Ethan and his people are looking for something... someone. *And they, for some reason, believe that they are going to find it in the children on this island. CrankyCarlita 01-19-2005, 10:02 PM I agree with you, Weblass. *Kate appeared quite nonchalant about Claire being gone. * Quite frankly, I don't think any of them are acting very rational. * Why haven't they searched the island? *Why didn't they TRY to rescue Claire? *Why haven't they gone in search of Danielle? * If you say that it's because they are scared of the monster, then why are these fools constantly wandering off into the jungle alone at various times? It makes no sense. WebLass 01-19-2005, 10:04 PM CrankyCarlita -- I totally agree with you. ~Aimee Lost-In-Homework 01-19-2005, 10:05 PM She might have looked thin because she probably didn't eat anything for a few days. So we will have to wait for the episode where they show her again. *She looked sick either way.... :-\ I can't wait THREE WEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *>:( AlaneSue 01-19-2005, 10:06 PM I'm in the "Claire is no longer pregnant" camp. It was hard to tell but I never expected her to come back with her baby and the rumors are that the others kept the baby. They definitely filmed it that way to keep us guessing. :) I'd say "not pregnant" just because I can't see a woman ready to deliver being able to make it through the jungle and away from Ethan unless he didn't care anymore. Alane Julia` 01-19-2005, 10:08 PM Yeah, I hear you too. They just all seem to be stagnant. Claire? yeah we looked for her for a bit... but why go any further? I think a group should definitely circumvent the island like Sayid set out too... if only to know how big it IS! .I wonder what's so great about babies? Maybe the Others simply can't have any. I've heard nuclear radiation can do that to you. lol. going by the proposed nuclear theory, at least. I've heartd that Sun gets kidknapped in a future episode... and a rumor that she was also pregnant at the time, and that's why she was taken. heh... Kate's turn soon! I propose Jack over Sawyer to be the daddy... lol as for Claire still being pregnant... I don;t think you can tell from the clip, but it's likely that she's not. Either she naturally delivered while in captivity and they kept the baby, or they forcibly took it from her. Also, remember... Claire thinks that Charlie is dead. that should be interesting! Earendil 01-19-2005, 10:10 PM I'm going with not. Simply because from the way I am seeing it, her shirt is really loose on her it seems. When before it was almost skin tight around her belly. I'm fairly sure that they didn't give her new clothes while they were keeping her. Lost_Fanatic 01-19-2005, 10:13 PM OMG....how can she not look pregnant...what a bad sign! I agree though, I think Ethan took it...but WHHHHYYYY?!?!?!?! And why must we wait 3 weeks? NOOOOOOOOOOOO! I simply can't wait that long....need.....lost......watch....NOW...... welshmuse 01-19-2005, 10:14 PM How happy was I to see Claire again!! During the episode, I was thrilled that people were (FINALLY) mentioning her, and at least showing some concern, but then when she showed up it was great. About whether she was still pregnant--I think they tried to make it ambiguous in the scene, but I could have sworn one of the writers on here said "just wait until the birth." Of course, if she did already had the baby, we might see the birth in a flashback.... The whistle--it's supposed to be a dog whistle, did it end up being a Claire whistle? :laugh: How odd. Also, remember... Claire thinks that Charlie is dead. that should be interesting! Yeah, I hadn't thought of that---I can't wait to see how their reunion will be. Will she be thrilled to see him alive? Or will she be angry at him for not protecting her like he promised. I for one hope she brings out a big can of whoop a$$ on everyone at the camp for not putting any effort into finding her!! Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:16 PM Good point Alane. * I have been reluctant to reveal my overall theory for several weeks... I came up with it quite some time ago, while we were still early on in the shows. *It will seem out there at first, but who knows... Anyways this is it at last- My theory, is that Ethan is part of a satanic cult somewhere on the island. *And these people have reason to believe that the Antichrist will rise soon, so they are looking for a baby... with something. *After Claire went to the psychic guy, and how terrified he was, I really began to believe this. *And then he told her that the baby MUST be raised in a good home. *The people in this cult, on the island, somehow brought the plane down because they had learned somehow of Claire and the fears of this guy (the psychic). *And now... they've found her, and taken her baby. * That's all I've got so far, that's the theory I keep coming back to no matter what happens. *In the end... I come back to that. deppluver 01-19-2005, 10:17 PM What??? The next new episode of lost wont be on for another three weeks!! I need to see Boone, Sawyer, Jack, Sayid!!! I NEED THEM!!! :-[ bport132 01-19-2005, 10:25 PM I thought Kate sounded like a parent telling their child that the dead dog had "run away" and maybe it would come back.. I got the distinct idea tonight that everyone but Charlie thought Claire was long dead but that they were just trying to placate him. Julia` 01-19-2005, 10:28 PM heh... charlie with Claire's diary was so cute... it was funny though, when she showed it to Jack and Sayid.. "You read her DIARY?" "Yeah, I know. I'm scum. listen to this." lessthanthree 01-19-2005, 10:29 PM Obviously she's bruised.. she was kidnapped, held prisoner for a week, [maybe] gave birth, and [maybe] escaped.. How would she not be bruised?? One weird thing about bruising, however, is that the bruises on Charlie's neck were gone this week. I'm not so sure, but if someone was HUNG only a week ago, he would probably still be bruised. I've gotten bruised by banging my knee on my desk that stay longer than a week.. My proposition about Ethan.. he's just one of the others. There are many, and he's at the bottom of the barrel; Ethan's in no way the leader of them. And as much as I want to like Locke, he did something more to Boone than we saw last week. His personality is COMPLETELY different than he was before. And, I know, I know, he had a changing experience when he realized he would be "relieved" if Shannon died, but please. If someone cracked you over the head and tied you to a tree in the middle of the jungle, would you forgive him and DEFEND him 2 days later?? I wouldn't.. And GREENEYES -- it's Kir.. HEY!! Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:29 PM Bloody scum* *:D Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:31 PM My proposition about Ethan.. he's just one of the others. There are many, and he's at the bottom of the barrel; Ethan's in no way the leader of them. If you're talking about what I said, I never meant to imply that he's the leader. welshmuse 01-19-2005, 10:32 PM My theory, is that Ethan is part of a satanic cult somewhere on the island. And these people have reason to believe that the Antichrist will rise soon, so they are looking for a baby... with something. After Claire went to the psychic guy, and how terrified he was, I really began to believe this. And then he told her that the baby MUST be raised in a good home. The people in this cult, on the island, somehow brought the plane down because they had learned somehow of Claire and the fears of this guy (the psychic). And now... they've found her, and taken her baby. Now that's an interesting theory. What I find interesting though, is how she left--did they force her to leave? Did she escape with the intention of bringing back reinforcements to get her baby back? You'd think Ethan and co. would want to keep Claire with them, at least for awhile. If nothing else than for breastfeeding. I thought Kate sounded like a parent telling their child that the dead dog had "run away" and maybe it would come back.. I got the distinct idea tonight that everyone but Charlie thought Claire was long dead but that they were just trying to placate him. Totally agree with you there. I half expected Kate to tell Charlie "we send her away to a farm where she can play with other pregnant girls." lkwaclawik 01-19-2005, 10:32 PM My theory, is that Ethan is part of a satanic cult somewhere on the island. *And these people have reason to believe that the Antichrist will rise soon, so they are looking for a baby... with something. *After Claire went to the psychic guy, and how terrified he was, I really began to believe this. *And then he told her that the baby MUST be raised in a good home. *The people in this cult, on the island, somehow brought the plane down because they had learned somehow of Claire and the fears of this guy (the psychic). *And now... they've found her, and taken her baby. * But if that is true then why did the psychic put her on the plane since he 'knew' that the plane was going to go down there. lessthanthree 01-19-2005, 10:33 PM If you're talking about what I said, I never meant to imply that he's the leader. No, I hadn't even read your post when I wrote my response.. But I don't think the psychic was involved in that way. Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:37 PM Now that's an interesting theory. What I find interesting though, is how she left--did they force her to leave? Did she escape with the intention of bringing back reinforcements to get her baby back? You'd think Ethan and co. would want to keep Claire with them, at least for awhile. If nothing else than for breastfeeding. I would imagine they would want to seperate the baby from it's original mother as quickly as possible, so as to not let her influence it. But if that is true then why did the psychic put her on the plane since he 'knew' that the plane was going to go down there. Maybe he was in on it? (faking fear of her, when really he knew he had finally found what he was looking for) He worked and worked for her trust.... then he got it. Now this, maybe this is what he wanted. lkwaclawik 01-19-2005, 10:38 PM And as much as I want to like Locke, he did something more to Boone than we saw last week. His personality is COMPLETELY different than he was before. And, I know, I know, he had a changing experience when he realized he would be "relieved" if Shannon died, but please. If someone cracked you over the head and tied you to a tree in the middle of the jungle, would you forgive him and DEFEND him 2 days later?? I wouldn't.. I know this is off the Claire subject but Boone didn't want to be in love with Shannon, I dont think, and he was relieve when he knew she died. *So now he is trying to get over her that is why his personality has changed so much. lessthanthree 01-19-2005, 10:41 PM I know this is off the Claire subject but Boone didn't want to be in love with Shannon, I dont think, and he was relieve when he knew she died. *So now he is trying to get over her that is why his personality has changed so much. Did you miss last week's episode? Locke asked Boone how he felt when he thought Shannon had died, and Boone said "Relieved." Do you think he was lying? Because I don't think he would have any motive at all to lie at that moment.. Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:43 PM I don't think that's what lkwaclawik meant. DC_Camel 01-19-2005, 10:44 PM Where did Locke take Boone at the end of the last episode? Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:45 PM That's exactly what I was wondering about five minutes ago. Locke- "That's right, it's time to let go. Follow me." lkwaclawik 01-19-2005, 10:45 PM yeah, I meant that I think he regrets giving into his feelings for Shannon. *Sort of... *Its hard to explane markl 01-19-2005, 10:47 PM If you subscribe to the official notion that all the characters are somehow involved with each other prior to the crash, then, speaking of the psychic who MAY or more likely MAY NOT be real - then confidence man Sawyer rushes to the fore as the intentional or unintentional cause of Claire being on the plane pregnant. I don't know that I can buy the psychic sending her specifically to crash land with a late term baby on the island - but I'll give you that for now. Thus me suspect that Sawyer would be behind the psychic or psychic is a front for one of Sawyer's bunco deals and perhaps the cops were catching up to him when he encountered Jack's dad - to come soon two nights before the flight as we saw him in the station scene. Ethan and the others as religious figures doesn't 'figure' in that sense. The good vs. evil confrontation likely has nothing to do with religion, only the absolute forces in conflict. That would be keeping with the developing themes. Newborn innocents would have some kind of *force perhaps that gives Ethan and friends what they need to survive in their world/part of the island. Oh and you were right to mention Sun - I'd forgotten that part of the puzzle. Where does that leave Kate - good or bad girl? Somehow I think bad girl setting something up prior to the flight. You're right in mentioning her seeming unconcern for Claire, minus the baby. lkwaclawik 01-19-2005, 10:47 PM Back to Claire, *I wonder what she will do when she finds out Charlie is alive, and that he read her diary!! welshmuse 01-19-2005, 10:49 PM But if that is true then why did the psychic put her on the plane since he 'knew' that the plane was going to go down there. I don't think the psychic saw everything. I think he saw what the baby would become if raised by someone other than Claire. And he saw the plane crash (probably from doing a reading for someone else who was supposed to be on the plane). So he figured putting her on the plane would ensure that the baby would either be killed or would live in isolation with Claire. The irony was that his actions brought about exactly what he feared would happen. jme 01-19-2005, 10:51 PM I don't think the psychic saw everything.* I think he saw what the baby would become if raised by someone other than Claire.* And he saw the plane crash (probably from doing a reading for someone else who was supposed to be on the plane).* So he figured putting her on the plane would ensure that the baby would either be killed or would live in isolation with Claire. The irony was that his actions brought about exactly what he feared would happen.* I completely agree with you welshmuse!!! That is what I wanted to say, but I just can't get anything to comeout, I'm still in awe over this epi!! :o markl 01-19-2005, 10:52 PM Welsh - ok, but consider what IF he was a phony set up by Sawyer and had a hand in setting things in motion. Ask yourself why Sawyer knows so much of where things were - personal belongings, etc on the plane after the crash. *Were multiple folks bunco'd by Sawyer including Claire and her baby? Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:52 PM I don't think the psychic saw everything. *I think he saw what the baby would become if raised by someone other than Claire. *And he saw the plane crash (probably from doing a reading for someone else who was supposed to be on the plane). *So he figured putting her on the plane would ensure that the baby would either be killed or would live in isolation with Claire. The irony was that his actions brought about exactly what he feared would happen. Ah, yes! *Thank you, you expressed it better than I could think to. *Especially crucial is the "I don't think the psychic saw everything", that's exactly my assumption. LostWord 01-19-2005, 10:53 PM One weird thing about bruising, however, is that the bruises on Charlie's neck were gone this week. I'm not so sure, but if someone was HUNG only a week ago, he would probably still be bruised. I've gotten bruised by banging my knee on my desk that stay longer than a week.. I saw the bruises when he was talking to Kate, he's still bruised around the neck. DC_Camel 01-19-2005, 10:53 PM Or maybe they'll be able to get the baby back from the others eventually? Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:54 PM Welsh - ok, but consider what IF he was a phony set up by Sawyer and had a hand in setting things in motion. Ask yourself why Sawyer knows so much of where things were - personal belongings, etc on the plane after the crash. Were multiple folks bunco'd by Sawyer including Claire and her baby? I'm still not seeing exactly how you brought Sawyer into this equation. Could you elaborate? jme 01-19-2005, 10:55 PM I'm not seeing the Sawyer connection either. The diary probably fell out when her stuff was being moved and of course Sawyer happened to be the one to pick it up. The_Sheppardess 01-19-2005, 10:56 PM I agree that Claire isn't pregnant anymore, but I'm definitely going to have to take another look at my tape! I also think it was really good idea to have her return to them. It would have been so easy for the writers to build up to a big episode where they all go out and look for and find her (although it probably would be quite enjoyable to watch). It's so much more interesting this way: they don't really know where she was or who she was with or what happened, and they have to deal with the fact that while she was wandering through the jungle trying to get back they were just sitting around reading maps, looking for toy airplanes and staring at hatches in the ground. This is going to be good! Three weeks... I'm not sure if I'm going to make it! jme 01-19-2005, 10:58 PM I can barely make it a week between epi's!! Charlie 01-19-2005, 10:58 PM I understand what mark's saying about Sawyer AFTER he's entered the pre-crash equation, but I don't get how he got there... markl 01-19-2005, 11:00 PM How is Sawyer involved? Well, as a catalyst to alot of things that seem to be happening to the characters. This only holds of course if you take the view, as I do, that the psychic was a phony and was paid off by someone (Sawyer the bunco man - see?) to have Claire on the plane. Perhaps she was going to be kidnapped on her arrival in LA rather than setting the baby up for adoption by the (supposed) American people she was going to see. Charlie 01-19-2005, 11:03 PM I see now. Interesting. But where do you go from there? Stefanie_2010 01-19-2005, 11:04 PM Hmm... not so sure about that (Sawyer fitting into all of this), but with what they've thrown at us so far, anything's possible... Yeah, I don't think Claire is pregnant anymore, especially since it seemed like she was going into labor when she & Charlie were kidnapped (I know... could've been a false labor or something, but still... after that trauma, she probably gave birth or they forcibly took the baby from her). And for all we know, they separated Claire and Charlie & she has no idea that they hung him and tried to kill him. She might think Charlie is still out there somewhere. Charlie was precious when he was fighting with himself over reading her diary. I just *hope* she still feels the same way about him when she sees him. wonderlost 01-19-2005, 11:06 PM From a writer's standpoint, having Claire come back without the baby is the best of both worlds: you get all of the trauma of Claire and the drama of the mother/baby seperation, and you don't have to deal with filming an infant in the jungle in Hawaii. *This is the way I figured it would work out, especially after the set up of the psychic (you know, the baby must be raised by Claire to benefit from her goodness...). Ophelia 01-19-2005, 11:07 PM first post since the infamous rearrival of everybodys favorite Aussie::::Claire!!! Oh my gawd, I was hoping this was when Claire would return. When Emilie De Ravins name was in the credits, I literally was like, YES! At least we may get like a flashback of her or something but her actually coming back was freeking awesome!!!! I danced on my sofa. I did a few 'its ya birfday's' and literally tried not to scream cause my mum was on the phone but I was in histerics! Ya'll know how badly I wanted Claire to come back! And she is! YAY! Fast Eddie 01-19-2005, 11:09 PM I don't think the psychic saw everything.* I think he saw what the baby would become if raised by someone other than Claire.* And he saw the plane crash (probably from doing a reading for someone else who was supposed to be on the plane).* So he figured putting her on the plane would ensure that the baby would either be killed or would live in isolation with Claire. The irony was that his actions brought about exactly what he feared would happen.* Did his actions bring about what he feared would happen? Think about this guys. *The psychic is beyond scared if Claire doesn't raise the baby, evil will follow him or whatever. *That could quite potentially have large scale problems. *Let's say, for arguments sake, one thousand people would be harmed by the baby or something. Now, let's say the baby is on the island not being raised by Claire. *An island that no one will get off, with a finite number of people. *Let's say the baby hurts fifty people. The lesser of evils. *The psychic knew this. *The lives of fifty are peanuts to the lives of thousands. So his actions didn't bring about what he feared. *He already knew Claire not raising the baby was inevitable. *He just found a situation that minimized the collateral damage of the baby. welshmuse 01-19-2005, 11:11 PM How is Sawyer involved? Well, as a catalyst to alot of things that seem to be happening to the characters. This only holds of course if you take the view, as I do, that the psychic was a phony and was paid off by someone (Sawyer the bunco man - see?) to have Claire on the plane. Perhaps she was going to be kidnapped on her arrival in LA rather than setting the baby up for adoption by the (supposed) American people she was going to see. Oh, I see what you mean now. I was thinking you thought Sawyer was involved with Ethan and had something to do with the plane crashing. I've probably just had too much diet coke today. :) Anyway, that an interesting theory. I do think Sawyer will have something to do with other castaways--especially with regard to his cons. But, I don't buy it regarding Claire. Here's why--during Confidence Man, Sawyer became genuinly upset when he saw the little boy whose parents Sawyer was conning. It upset him so much that he couldn't go through with the con. So Sawyer is not completely cold--he has a heart. I don't see him being heartless enough to be involved in a con that involved a pregnant woman and an innocent child. But I've certainly been wrong on these boards before, so who knows? Oh yeah, I almost forgot...I do think the psychic was for real. It's just too much of a coincidence for a psychic to say the things he said to Claire about her baby being raised by her, and then to have a random crazy person on an island trying to steal her baby. Unless the psychic was connected to Ethan--but I just don't buy that. We'll just have to wait and see... markl 01-19-2005, 11:12 PM I see now.* Interesting.* But where do you go from there? Charlie, we should see something along the lines of Sawyer involvement in yet another character in "Outlaws" but again as a background player without face to face meeting... though I still wonder about Sawyer and Kate in the past...might prove the exception to the above. I guess if I extrapolate the idea then Sawyer eventually becomes the go-between between the two groups on the island. *Also - his character is too well-built-up in previous eps not to have major involvement in the big, big, May sweep, *season-ender plot line that they're working on. markl 01-19-2005, 11:17 PM Oh yeah, I almost forgot...I do think the psychic was for real.* It's just too much of a coincidence for a psychic to say the things he said to Claire about* her baby being raised by her, and then to have a random crazy person on an island trying to steal her baby.* Unless the psychic was connected to Ethan--but I just don't buy that.* We'll just have to wait and see... Aha very good as the opposite point. Not impossible,is it, if we review the clues. DC_Camel 01-19-2005, 11:20 PM You guys are talking like Claire will never get her baby back to raise it. Be optimistic like Sawyer! Charlie 01-19-2005, 11:22 PM Haha "like Sawyer" yea, that's what we need. She might get it back... I don't see how, but why would I be able to? So maybe. jacknkate1 01-19-2005, 11:38 PM SOOOOOOO happy to see claire...although obviously she didnt look too good.....poor thing....well anyway I think she will get the baby back....it'll be like the island goal...everyone will join forces to find the child, and fight the "others" in a battle ending with almost everyones death......ok maybe not....but I do think she will somehow get the baby back Cardielost 01-19-2005, 11:42 PM The logistics of using an infant on a show that does this much location work is just too daunting. I don't think we'll see Claire's baby any time soon. Cardie markl 01-19-2005, 11:44 PM Oh I think she gets it back alright, but not before the season finale - after all, the baby is in good hands - Alex is taking care of it up there on Black Rock... Danny 01-19-2005, 11:50 PM well i just tried to post but the fuselage doesn't like me.... and i think it had something to do with (it's been a while lol) i like the whole occult deal and that ethan is involved. And could Danielle be part of this group as well? And yeah, i'm guessing ethan was a spy or scout that found them. But however this works out, i believe the writers to be doing an awesome job at keeping ppl coming back for more :laugh: And i don't mind the three week wait, i missed those last two episodes before reg. programming cuz they never showed them! I came in late by the way when they started re showing them. So bear with the new ppl eh? lol :angel: Charlie 01-19-2005, 11:51 PM Eh, you've got it all wrong, ;) Alex is another baby they snatched while looking for whatever they're looking for. Fast Eddie 01-19-2005, 11:53 PM Exactly. markl 01-19-2005, 11:59 PM Don't think so Charlie in that Alex is at least nine years old... Danny 01-20-2005, 12:00 AM Don't worry mark, i'm just as confused as you lol. I missed those sayid and claire eps so i don't know who alex is either, but i'm assuming i'll find out next week or the week after heh. goloptious 01-20-2005, 12:10 AM I was so happy to see Claire...I actually WooHooed out loud! Hee hee....but I couldn't tell if she had already had the baby or not...guess we'll see in a few weeks, won't we?? The writers are all geniussss!!(I don't know the plural of genius, but they are it!) technophobe 01-20-2005, 12:17 AM I totally called the "Claire return". And then, they go straight to a preview, I'm thinking "oh my gosh, oh my gosh", but IT'S A REPEAT!!!!!! AHHHHH!!!! Now that that's out of my system, I can't believe Claire's back! Agree, she kinda looked like she wasn't pregnant anymore, but it was dark, and I was freaking out, so I wasn't paying that much attention to the little details. I was thinking, since you know, Brian was all afraid of Walt, maybe there's a connection between Walt and Claire's baby... anyone? jennnnnnnn 01-20-2005, 12:19 AM I was thinking, since you know, Brian was all afraid of Walt, maybe there's a connection between Walt and Claire's baby... anyone? but Brian wasn't the biological father--Thomas was. But I see what you're saying, and if there is some kinda connection it would just feed into the IMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEENNNSEE amount of daddy issues going around that i predict will have a huge part to play in what will happen. Nuj 01-20-2005, 12:25 AM I just watched the tape several more times. As Claire emerges, look to the right of her waist. She bends and turns a bit to get around some foliage. And she TOTALLY looks pregnant. You can see the bulge. I think it's less believable that a woman who just gave birth without benefit of any medical care whatsoever can traipse through the jungle than a woman about to give birth. The logistics of filming with a DOLL are easy, even on location. They don't need to show the real baby very often. And aren't the caves an indoor set? I don't know that one, maybe they're not, but they look like one. Natalie, opinionated, drive-by poster who will never survive until February 9 technophobe 01-20-2005, 12:29 AM My point above (sorry that I wasn't very clear, my brain's still muddled): The whole theory about Walt bringing doom wherever he goes, and then the psycho psychic predictions about Claire and the baby bringing evil or whatever word they used. That was the connection I was thinking of, but yeah, it does lend itself to those "daddy issue" theories. jennnnnnnn 01-20-2005, 12:31 AM wait; just checked lost-media...she DOES look pregnant! http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=27449&fullsize=1 markl 01-20-2005, 12:34 AM Are you saying Walt conjured up a baby? More likely is that Walt is conjuring up all the daddy issues that plague the characters: Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Michael, Claire, Sun... Yet to be told and maybe/likely daddy issues: Hurley, Locke, Rose, Shannon, Boone, Jin, Charlie CutiePie 01-20-2005, 12:35 AM A possible theory that I've just thought about involves Walt's "special" abilities. * Based on the good vs evil theory what if Walt is the evil child that "the others" seek and maybe they knew that the child they sought would be on the plane, but not which child. * Maybe Claire could still be pregnant if Walt is the child they're really looking for, and once they found out Claire's baby wasn't "that child" they let her go. * Just one of the many, many ideas that float through my head regarding this show!!!! ??? chloe173 01-20-2005, 12:37 AM The media doesn't show that she was pregnant. It just showed she had a small chubby stomach section. Which she would hav ehad even after she had the baby. (guessing you have never seen a women a few days after giving birth, jennnn?) I think we are just going to have to wait to find out. All this baby talk is making me think aobut that news story from last week where that women cut that other woman's baby out of her stomach...*shudder* markl 01-20-2005, 12:38 AM Still thinks she's no longer pregnant - doesn't necessarily mean that Ethan actually has the baby - other possibilities but guess we may find out more in Homecoming... three weeks *to speculate - or at least until some new promo photos turn up. But Ethan and Alex still have a couple to go for if rumors are true: Sun and Shannon markl 01-20-2005, 12:48 AM A possible theory that I've just thought about involves Walt's "special" abilities. * Based on the good vs evil theory what if Walt is the evil child that "the others" seek and maybe they knew that the child they sought would be on the plane, but not which child. * Maybe Claire could still be pregnant if Walt is the child they're really looking for, and once they found out Claire's baby wasn't "that child" they let her go. * Just one of the many, many ideas that float through my head regarding this show!!!! ??? Hmm... very good - no one's thought of that one and it would fit -loosely- but plausible. Of course we have to find out more about the "others" as in - do they really exist as something other than a tribe of lost survivors from the French expedition? Meriadegrin 01-20-2005, 12:51 AM That's a really great thought! It would certainly make sense. I just wonder what Ethan wants the children for... they must be a great significance to 'the others'. Did you see Claire's face? She looked very thin and worn out, so I think she did have the baby. Maybe Ethan and 'the others' need a new generation to live on the island after them, and they can tell the kids the secrets of the island... (just a thought *:P ) If her baby is gone, I really hope they'll go looking for it! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *~ Jill markl 01-20-2005, 12:54 AM I think alot of us are in agreement that the season finale will involve the search for the 'others' - baby or no baby and Claire is certainly in the forefront of that... Turnpike Joe 01-20-2005, 01:42 AM Claire is so sexy!!! ;D creme 01-20-2005, 01:48 AM Are you saying Walt conjured up a baby? More likely is that Walt is conjuring up all the daddy issues that plague the characters: Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Michael, Claire, Sun... Yet to be told and maybe/likely daddy issues: Hurley, Locke, Rose, Shannon, Boone, Jin, Charlie Where do we see Kate having daddy issues? You forgot Shannon and Walt on that list. Man_U_Fan 01-20-2005, 02:57 AM I guess dom really did know hwat he was talking about )for those of you who dont know, Dom let it slip at ORC that claire was coming back) YAY! Turnpike Joe 01-20-2005, 03:34 AM Yes Dom did know what he was talking about! The yummy sexy Claire is back!!!! car88win 01-20-2005, 04:57 AM Ouch... Back to Claire- * Exactly. *Like I said before, Ethan and his people are looking for something... someone. *And they, for some reason, believe that they are going to find it in the children on this island. this got me wondering and sorry if someone posted this already it came to me...what if (if i type that one more time i might scream) the "others" were looking for a certain child, only they took the wrong one and that's why the let her go? Maybe the one they really want is Walt?? Jacqui 01-20-2005, 07:06 AM I am so glad to see Claire again. I heard about Dom letting it slip she would be returning, but I honestly thought it would be after The Homecoming (the next episode, which is Charlie-centric and is rumored to have flashbacks about the abduction). I can't wait until she sees Charlie, I'm pretty sure Ethan made her watch Charlie die as torture. So thinking that he's dead...and then seeing him at camp, that's going to be one helluva scene. ELTaino74 01-20-2005, 07:46 AM I found the pic of Claire coming out of the woods. http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=172&pos=678 If you blow up the picture, it kinda looks like she still is pregnant. Any insight to this?? arentwealllost? 01-20-2005, 08:41 AM this got me wondering and sorry if someone posted this already it came to me...what if (if i type that one more time i might scream) the "others" were looking for a certain child, only they took the wrong one and that's why the let her go? Maybe the one they really want is Walt?? I completely agree with this. Claire looks to me like she is still pregnant. I think they want Walt because of his special abilities......they want to use them for evil.... theshapeshifter 01-20-2005, 08:44 AM Actually, that coming out of the woods cap makes me think even more that she's NOT pregnant. A woman who's just given birth will look about five-ish months pregnant at first... it takes a little while for the body to recover a non-pregnant shape, even if someone hasn't gained much 'extra' weight. Jacks Dad 01-20-2005, 08:50 AM re: the pic of Claire. Don't foget that the shirt she was wearing would be extremely stretched out since she had been weraing it for who knows how long while being very pregnant. I dont' think she is still pregnant. fanboy17 01-20-2005, 09:51 AM this got me wondering and sorry if someone posted this already* it came to me...what if (if i type that one more time i might scream) the "others" were looking for a certain child, only they took the wrong one and that's why the let her go?* Maybe the one they really want is Walt?? I think Claire's baby is going to be the Other's counter to Walt. I.e. the White to Walt's Black (granted the skin color metaphor is a little obvious). That also makes me think that Ethan has the baby. I think the writers did say that in addition to The Tempest, that a great deal of inspiration came from Stephen King's "The Stand." Unfortunately, I can't find that interview to link it. Charlie 01-20-2005, 12:24 PM Really? That would line up with my theory perfectly then! (them getting insperation from The Stand) this got me wondering and sorry if someone posted this already it came to me...what if (if i type that one more time i might scream) the "others" were looking for a certain child, only they took the wrong one and that's why the let her go? Maybe the one they really want is Walt?? Yeah, someone else kindof posted something like this. But anyways- This is interesting, and could not be too far off. I would change the theory JUST slightly though- Let's say they took Claire's baby, and then they realized it was the wrong one. There you go :) because I really do not think she's still pregnant. name was taken 01-20-2005, 01:59 PM Other than being seriously traumatized, whether she is still preggers or not, don't you think Claire is going to right pissed that no one was really out looking for her? Charlie just sat around and moped, Jack did what?, Sawyer did nothing but look sexy, Kate nothing, Sayid got into his maps, Boone and Locke pretended... I would be totally mad. And the other survivors should be ashamed for not trying harder! She was nine months pregnant and ready to pop at any time! elfdream 01-20-2005, 02:11 PM I honestly don't think Claire is going to care what they did or didn't do. She probably doesn't have her baby and if she is like most new moms she will want it back..bad.* That will be what will uppermost in her mind right now..that is if she is in her right mind. She will probably demand ,plead and beg that they go look for him/her and not give a flying flip about what went before. Assuming she hasn't been traumitzed to the point of amnesia...or doesn't have some kind of postpartum depression* or psychosis. whistler 01-20-2005, 02:57 PM She still seems pregnant in the picture... I wonder if she has "the sickness"? car88win 01-20-2005, 06:47 PM I think Claire's baby is going to be the Other's counter to Walt.* I.e. the White to Walt's Black (granted the skin color metaphor is a little obvious).* That also makes me think that Ethan has the baby.* I think the writers did say that in addition to The Tempest, that a great deal of inspiration came from Stephen King's "The Stand."* Unfortunately, I can't find that interview to link it. Yea! Not that it's a racist thing, just like the physic said. This child needs your goodness bla bla bla and if Walt has the same hoo doo voo doo about him....this could be a hit on something we need to make note of.... CajunGrl 01-20-2005, 06:51 PM Yea I was very suprised when I saw Claire... She didn't look pregnant to me! ??? whistler 01-20-2005, 06:54 PM She sure looks pregnant to me (see here (http://homepage.mac.com/futurama/claire.html) and here (http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=172&pos=678)). Man_U_Fan 01-20-2005, 07:10 PM one can only hope PARADiSEiS808 01-20-2005, 07:41 PM She sure looks pregnant to me (see here (http://homepage.mac.com/futurama/claire.html) and here (http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=172&pos=678)). She really does look pregnant in those pictures.. I think she still is. Maybe she escaped? lostbylost 01-20-2005, 07:53 PM First, I believe Claire has given birth. *As others have mentioned, she was bursting at the seams of her shirt. *If she was still pregnant belive me there would be no doubt. *But reading your posts has given me some inspiration to ceertain theories. *First they have taken Claire's baby in order to create a stronger need for Claire to raise it. *You want something more once it's taken from you. *If this is being influenced by The STAND. *This island is the meeting place for one faction that will eventually need to fight the others but not the other who are on the island those left in the world after some catastrophy. * The others have been on the island preparing for this day. *Walt is a central character wwith his special abilities and Claire's Baby is the key. *Locke already knows this that is how he survived when he should have been killed by the monster. Claire is definately traumatized, think what she has been thru. Kidnapped, witness to Jack being beaten, Charlie being hanged and heer baby being taken, She is probably in shock. Look haow affected Charlie was when he returned PARADiSEiS808 01-20-2005, 08:11 PM There had to be more than one person who took Charlie and Claire. Unless Ethan drugged her or something... because if she was alone while Ethan beat up Jack then she could have ran away. Danny 01-20-2005, 09:05 PM Yeah, all these are great thoughts! I'm gonna have to check out The Stand again just cuz Lost reminds me of it so much lol. :o lostinchitown 01-20-2005, 09:07 PM maybe ethan didnt take her baby, he just killed it. maybe because of the abduction, she's gonna have a miscarriage. just a thought lkwaclawik 01-20-2005, 09:51 PM OMG!!! Spoiler for Homecoming!!! After the missing Claire returns with no recollection of what has happened since before the doomed flight of Oceanic 815, Jack and Locke formulate a plan of defense against her kidnapper, the mysterious Ethan, who threatens to kill off the other survivors unless Claire is returned to him. That is from www.spoilerfix.com* And it makes me very sad.* *:'( goloptious 01-20-2005, 11:10 PM Hmm....I thought it looked like she wasn't pregnant still.....guess it is back to the tape for me!! ;) markl 01-21-2005, 01:35 AM Where do we see Kate having daddy issues? You forgot Shannon and Walt on that list. Oops yup - right you are. Daddy issue big time with Walt who would rather have Mr. Locke as daddy I guess... Kate's toy DC3 supposedly belonged to her daddy... see? Something in the deposit box from him from also that we have not seen as yet. Daddy stuff and more to come on Jack's daddy stuff too - so maybe Locke will have the opportunity shortly to have Jack let go too... Kate might be a tougher nut. markl 01-21-2005, 01:43 AM So if Claire memory is wiped then who brings her back to reality? Good twist in that it won't be so easy for the group to go out looking for Ethan without her to lead them. And so - with memory wiped, does she now have the 'island plague' and will Danielle find out and come hunting for her too? Could be interesting... lkwaclawik 01-21-2005, 10:07 AM I dont know if she has the 'island plague' but I want her to remember everything, especially Charlie!! Charlie 01-21-2005, 02:28 PM I had wondered if now she would have the sickness too, interesting. banksy 01-21-2005, 02:57 PM oh no! charlie is going to be devestated that she wont remember him! but he has the diary.. maybe it will come back to her if she reads it?! lostfan88 01-21-2005, 05:13 PM I thought about that, I hope that doesn't happen... :( Danny 01-21-2005, 05:58 PM Well i don't think..* that she forgets everything, maybe just her kidnapping? eh, who knows lol? lkwaclawik 01-21-2005, 09:17 PM Nope, they say that she doesn't remember anything after the flight going down. :'( banksy 01-21-2005, 09:23 PM i suspect it's only temporary though she'll probably get her memory back by reading through her diary and triggering memories... but will she believe such preposterous circumstances? and HOW did she lose her memory? did ethan and co. do something physically damaging to her? and will this afffect her baby as well as her memory? Is her baby now going to be special.. just like walt is?.....BLAH BLAH Mygirl 01-21-2005, 09:38 PM Did anyone see if Claire was still pregnant?* I taped the show on a brand new VCR and I got nothing but a blue screen.* >:(* *:'( It was such a short time on camera, it was hard to tell.* ::) Danny 01-21-2005, 10:50 PM Well MG, if you really wanna know if she is or not, you can see above spoilers or from a previous post on this topic to find out. Stinks about your VCR, i would check your set ups and everything. lostinchitown 01-21-2005, 10:52 PM mygirl, she's very pregnant...vcr's can be a pain. car88win 01-22-2005, 01:38 AM she is still prego in abcmedicanet they list the captions under the photo for Outlaws and it say something about Claire and her still being pregnant i just can't remember what exactly it said this very second markl 01-22-2005, 01:48 AM I looked at the still from ABC media and it is unconclusive about her condition -so whoknows? but consider the fact that it would be VERY silly to have a pregnant woman show up wandering through the jungle and have no idea what she's doing there or how pg she is. I think the writers will come up with something better than that -though it would certainly invoke a great deal of sympathy for the character if she was 'zombiefied' by the 'others' as Danielle warned. I don't see any reason to sustain that bit for very long without resolving it - gets to be too much of a soap opera type unreality thing. Won't really wash. car88win 01-22-2005, 01:51 AM on abcmedianet.com they say in the caption that accompanies the pics that she is still pregnant but who knows about her mentally poor thing markl 01-22-2005, 02:05 AM Assuming that is the case then what'd she do? Kill Ethan and become traumatized and amnesiac afterwards? Starting to like the idea of Claire being 'zombiefied' with the island sickness/curse- adds some potential to the coming good vs.evil battle. And if she got to Ethan than why didn't Charlie have a better chance at him? Something big missing here folks and must be some really big reason she was writing a diary. Danny 01-22-2005, 02:20 AM Man i hope ppl who hate spoilers haven't been reading the previous posts..... (no not me lol) car88win 01-22-2005, 02:25 AM polar bear poo it's a bit too late now ooops :angel: Betsy 01-22-2005, 10:39 AM I'm not sure how Claire escaped (she surely wasn't released, or Ethan wouldn't be coming after her, threatening the other castaways), but I think (not having seen the Outlaw pics or captions yet) that she must still be pregnant. If she had already given birth, there's no way (assuming it just happened) that she could find her way back to where the castaways were......not in her condition. Wouldn't it be funny if one of the "Others" felt bad and released her, and Ethan came after her.....after quickly dispatching that treacherous "Other"? LOL .....In all seriousness, maybe Claire was drugged, but she "came to" earlier than expected and dashed off......I have to ask, though, when did she lose her memory? If she lost it while she was with Ethan and the "Others", why did she try to escape? She wouldn't remember that she was abducted......she could have thought that she was one of them. I assume that they were treating her pretty badly - not too smart if they wanted that baby to be born healthy. I don't know now Claire would have lost her memory after she "escaped", so I think that the drugging theory works.... Betsy 01-22-2005, 11:18 AM she is still prego* * in abcmedicanet they list the captions under the photo for Outlaws and it say something about Claire and her still being pregnant* *i just can't remember what exactly it said this very second Car88win, do you know which photo it is? There are no pics of Claire for that eppy, and all the other pics had the same caption...meaning, a summary of the plotline. I didn't see anything about Claire. Thanks! Danny 01-22-2005, 02:04 PM yeah, that's what i think he's talking about, those captions that mention her. SpikeChick666 01-22-2005, 02:13 PM Claire isnt pregnant you can tell from the show because her stomache is flatter but what really makes me think that she isnt pregnant is that just before her and charlie got taken she was about to have the baby everythime she got stressed out so i think that all the stuff that happed when she was taken would have stressed her out alot. i mean got kidnapped saw charlie get hanged thinking that no one would come for her scence she was gone for a whole week and not knowing weather her and her baby would live or doe i think that all of the pressure cause her to give birth to the baby and then once the people like ethan had the baby they let her go not caring what happend to her Charlie 01-22-2005, 05:49 PM No, Jack told her it'd be another week or maybe even two. It's been a week since he said that now. lostinchitown 01-22-2005, 05:52 PM sorry, i've seen undeniable footage of the next episode (two weeks from now) and she IS pregnant. Charlie 01-22-2005, 05:54 PM And then there's that ^ too. :) Danny 01-22-2005, 11:14 PM Hey Charlie, hope you didn't mind the spoilers bro lol. Charlie 01-22-2005, 11:22 PM Crazy people, hijacked my topic with spoilers ;) Naw, it's fine, I just skipped over it :P Danny 01-22-2005, 11:24 PM Hah, glad you knew when to look over them... your gonna have three weeks of dodging spoiler posts :lol: Snurtz 01-22-2005, 11:26 PM OMG I'm going to die waiting!!! Charlie 01-22-2005, 11:27 PM Yes, I'm sure. *It is enevitible... enevibible.... ENEVIVIBLE!!!!! *Things are enevivibly going to change!! CharliesAngel 01-23-2005, 12:17 AM *shakes head* So confused.... Fast Eddie 01-23-2005, 12:22 AM Yes, I'm sure. *It is enevitible... enevibible.... ENEVIVIBLE!!!!! *Things are enevivibly going to change!! Hans Brix Roah No! Spaztastic 01-23-2005, 12:24 AM I think that I am on the pregnant boat. I mean if you think about it logically Claire probably would have received little to no food while being held captive, therefore she would have become more thin. This can mean one of two things. 1) Claire is still pregnant, but the baby's life is now in danger of being born and then becoming a still born. or 2) Claire is pregnant and you just can't see her belly because of the shot. * * * * * I really give a shout out though to that shot though. If you think about it the lighting would have had to be just right so that Claire's pregnancy would be a huge topic on the message boards.So, Good job cast and crew! Betsy 01-23-2005, 12:25 AM sorry, i've seen undeniable footage of the next episode (two weeks from now) and she IS pregnant.* You saw footage from Homecoming? How'd the eppy look? It sounds great! Julers 01-23-2005, 12:31 AM i just wanna see charlies expression when he sees claire :angel: Julers 01-23-2005, 12:33 AM oh and i kinda hope charlie will kill ethan cuz ethan is eevviill...but i don't want charlie to become a killer :-[ Charlie 01-26-2005, 08:43 PM It's been proven that she isn't pregnant anymore, so there's no boat to be on anymore ;). And yeah, it'll be really interesting to see what Charlie does... indiansummer 01-26-2005, 09:15 PM Huh? Where was that proven? jedimaster 01-26-2005, 10:38 PM Anyone else see the preview for the new episode after tonight's rerun? It showed that Ethan is back and it looks like Charlie and he have a confrontation!* I didn't see anything about Claire, but I missed the first part of it. Charlie 01-26-2005, 11:01 PM I saw it! That episode looks pretty interesting... btw, it was "proven" in all those spoilers some people posted a little ways back in this thread about the new epi. Lost_In_Louisiana 01-27-2005, 12:04 AM It's been proven that she isn't pregnant anymore Ok, I've been searching and can't find any DEFINITIVE proof that she isn't pregnant - in the last 5 pages of this thread anyway.* Where are you getting the idea that it was PROVEN she wasn't pregnant?* Please provide a url or link or something.... (The spoilers mention what will happen during the episode but don't state whether or not she is still pregnant) Betsy 01-27-2005, 07:55 AM I saw it!* That episode looks pretty interesting... btw, it was "proven" in all those spoilers some people posted a little ways back in this thread about the new epi. Check this week's TV Guide- Claire is very much pregnant. MadisonFire 01-27-2005, 08:27 AM IF Ethan had taken the baby and cast her back out when he was done with her, then he would not NEED to confront or even be near Charlie. If he had what he wanted, why bother? I think she IS pregnant and Ethan still wants that BABY. Lost_In_Louisiana 01-27-2005, 06:31 PM I had thought at first that she would have given birth and Ethan was hunting her down because he still needs someone to FEED the baby - if he needs it to stay alive that is.... But the TV guide does say a very pregnant Claire returns....so, I guess he's still after her bump. :-[ (Apologizing if this post seems a bit morbid - I was just throwing out another scenario) DC_Camel 01-27-2005, 07:08 PM THe promo for episode 15 is up at http://lostmultimedia.beyondgrey.com/ (http://lostmultimedia.beyondgrey.com/)if anyone missed it Danny 01-27-2005, 09:27 PM yah, forgive my friend there, he's a little messed up in the head lol. you know i love you dude! Yeah, Claire has been proven pregnant. She could be spaghetti sauce cuz she's prego! sry bad joke ::) markl 01-28-2005, 02:28 AM You guys sure the pg scenes are not flashbacks to around the time of her abduction? blackrock47 01-28-2005, 03:08 AM ;D. Man, was I ever so glad to see Claire!!! elfdream 01-28-2005, 01:41 PM You guys sure the pg scenes are* not flashbacks to around the time of her abduction? He's wearing a different shirt. The shirt in the preview is a dark brown shirt..the one he wore when she was abducted was a lighter brown one with designs on it. AlaneSue 01-29-2005, 07:43 PM He's wearing a different shirt. The shirt in the preview is a dark brown shirt..the one he wore when she was abducted was a lighter brown one with designs on it. I'm sure Ethan would be happy to know we are keeping up with his wardrobe. :)* That does raise a question, though, as to where he gets his clothing. It's not as though he's been wearing animal hides or homespun. Alane TerryLost 01-29-2005, 08:25 PM I'm sure Ethan would be happy to know we are keeping up with his wardrobe. :)* That does raise a question, though, as to where he gets his clothing. It's not as though he's been wearing animal hides or homespun. Alane AlaneSue Maybe Sawyer's not the only whorder on the island?! :lol2: Maybe Ethan stole a suitcase from the wreckage and is so excited over having new clothes that he's in something different everytime we see him. You know how it is when you have new clothes and just can't wait to show them off. :angel: (whorder-is that spelled right? Can't find it in the dictionary.) elfdream 01-29-2005, 08:33 PM I'm sure Ethan would be happy to know we are keeping up with his wardrobe. :)* That does raise a question, though, as to where he gets his clothing. It's not as though he's been wearing animal hides or homespun. Alane Sorry if I wasn't clear in my post. I meant Charlie's shirt was different...not Ethan's. When he and Claire were abducted Charlie was wearing a light colored shirt with designs..in the preview he is wearing a dark brown shirt. I have wondered about Ethan's wardrobe as well. I guess he could have rummaged around in the plane wreckage like everyone else... Fogey 01-29-2005, 08:59 PM (whorder-is that spelled right? Can't find it in the dictionary.) Uh no I think you coined a new word. Perhaps something to do with the eh “ladies” he dealt with? Maybe Sawyer's not the only whorder on the island?!* :lol2: * *He also may not be the only hoarder on the island. ;D It's not just Ethan, Danielle also appeared to have decent clothes for the amount of time she has been on the island. Must be a Sam's Club on the other end of the island. ;) AlaneSue 01-29-2005, 09:46 PM It's not just Ethan, Danielle also appeared to have decent clothes for the amount of time she has been on the island. Must be a Sam's Club on the other end of the island. ;) Heh! A new one - Sam's Club that is - just opened where I live. It was quite the event here. :)* Maybe Danielle also picked up the bulb for her lights at Sam's, too. Alane Lost_In_Louisiana 01-30-2005, 01:23 AM (whorder-is that spelled right? Can't find it in the dictionary.) LMAO!!!* :lol2: What a great word - I must remember this for later.... ;D Thanx for my smile for the night! TerryLost 01-30-2005, 10:52 AM See, this is why I never bother to use spell-check. I try to spell something and it just sits there because I am such a TERRIBLE speller it can't even guess the word I want! I knew that I was way off, but I had nothing. At least I can laugh at myself and give everyone else a chuckle as well. * :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: Charlie 01-30-2005, 09:24 PM I believe the word is "horder" Cardielost 01-31-2005, 06:08 AM No, the word is hoarder. It means someone who hoards things, i.e. collecting more than he really needs and not sharing or sometimes even using what he has--a pack rat. A "horder" would be someone with an affinity for hordes, large groups that generally have the context of being aggressive or dangerous. (I don't think "horder" in this sense is ever used, but if it existed as a word, it would have to be formed from horde.) Spelling isn't just some random set of rules, you know, says this English teacher. Cardie markl 02-02-2005, 01:47 AM Um wouldn't THAT be funny if a highway appeared on the other side of the"island" and it's like the old Twilight Zone where they are only ten miles from civilization but nobody knows it. So maybe Ethan is shopping over there.... :laugh: bluelost 02-02-2005, 12:15 PM Um wouldn't THAT be funny if a highway appeared on the other side of the"island" and it's like the old Twilight Zone where they are only ten miles from civilization but nobody knows it. So maybe Ethan is shopping over there.... :laugh: How do they know for certain they are on an island at all? Fogey 02-02-2005, 08:14 PM How do they know for certain they are on an island at all? This was hit on by other posters (I don't remember which thread), but the plane didn't fly far enough to get to another continent. So unless they flew in circles and landed back in Australia, they are on an island. A second chain of logic, Danielle said her ship was 3 days out of Tahiti - I don't think you can get to a continent by ship in 3 days travel from Tahiti. Say 15 knots (a decent speed) times 24 hours = 360 nautical miles per day for 1,080 Nautical miles from Tahiti under the unlikely assumption that they traveled in a straight line even during the storm and never slowed down. So unless they went through some kind of cross dimensional portal, they are on an island. Or this is all Vincents dream and the plane is still in the air ;) TerryLost 02-02-2005, 09:23 PM Or this is all Vincents dream and the plane is still in the air ;) This is the best theory yet! ;D Charlie 02-02-2005, 10:39 PM Ah yea, you gotta love the theories like that... Nothing has even happened yet. It's all a dream. It's all the PAST. etc etc... ProudToBeAGerman 02-03-2005, 12:46 AM i was watching it and before it could register in my brain to check if she was pregnant or not and then they cut it. I HATE IT WHEN THEY DO THAT!!!!!!!!!!! NEXT EPISODE IS NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE GET TO SEE CLAIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! hahaha i was watching the rerun tonight and i just realized that ethan said he was from ontario. only a canadian would kidnap a pregnant girl....... :laugh: just kidding..... lkwaclawik 02-03-2005, 02:51 PM I have been watching that promo for next weeks epi, over and over, and there is a part in where Claire is standing out in the middle of an opening with her hands around her still large tummy. Plus, TV Guide has said that she is still preggers, and they would know (dont you think?) Charlie 02-03-2005, 06:26 PM Yes, I saw that they said that- and they would know... I think. Where do you go to see the trailer? I've just seen the commercials and the trailers they've played after the reruns. |