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shokknterror 01-19-2005, 09:07 PM Did anybody catch the page prior to the polar bear? It had a really jacked red...thing strapped down being electrocuted.
I immediately recognized this as Sayid when he encounters the French woman.
I expected after I saw that for there to be a greater role for the comic book, but in turn Micheal burned it. Sooo what does everyone else think? Coincidental or nothing at all?
tdiac 01-19-2005, 09:10 PM i thought the SAME thing...looked completely like Sayid's encounter with the French woman...
Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:12 PM Wow, I failed to make that connection.
IMO, the comic book probably solves everything, but now we'll never know ;).
DarthKosh 01-19-2005, 09:14 PM Wow, I failed to make that connection.*
IMO, the comic book probably solves everything, but now we'll never know ;).
It did look like a sheild or something was put over the island in the comic book.
lostfan88 01-19-2005, 09:15 PM Michael shouldn't have thrown that comic book into the fire... I liked looking at the pages too to see any connections. Hmm I didn't catch the guy but I saw some triangle thing that reminded me of the "maps."
jcbrown 01-19-2005, 09:15 PM When I saw that, I thought of this theory post...
http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=4166.0
joyceybear 01-19-2005, 09:16 PM I don't think the comic book was so important as much as pictures in general. *Things that Walt pictures in his mind seem to come to life.... the polar bear, the bird, throwing the knife into *the tree...
Earendil 01-19-2005, 09:17 PM See...people always sell the comics short ! It could of been the answer to all of their troubles, but no...now it's just a pile of ash!
Hoodie 01-19-2005, 09:17 PM And Walt read a line from the comic book , but it was pretty mangled Spanish, so it was hard to understand except the "oso polar = polar bear" part. * * Anyone catch it?
Also - this might have been said somewhere, but it said "Los amigos verdes = the green friends" on the front. *
Yeah - *probably the comic book contains all the answers! *:D
lostfan88 01-19-2005, 09:18 PM I don't think the comic book was so important as much as pictures in general. *Things that Walt pictures in his mind seem to come to life.... the polar bear, the bird, throwing the knife into *the tree...
That's exactly what I thought. OK, I'm going with the theory now that Walt controls things through his mind....
TerryLost 01-19-2005, 09:20 PM I agree. I also thought of Sayid's encounter with Danielle when I saw the picture.
Why would the writers burn one of the things that we enjoy speculating about so much? :lol2:
Of course, now Walt has new pictures (that Micheal drew for him) to look at. The possibilities.....
lostfan88 01-19-2005, 09:20 PM I wonder what the other pictures look like.... hmmmm interesting.
DarthKosh 01-19-2005, 09:21 PM I agree. I also thought of Sayid's encounter with Danielle when I saw the picture.
Why would the writers burn one of the things that we enjoy speculating about so much? :lol2:
Of course, now Walt has new pictures (that Micheal drew for him) to look at. The possibilities.....
They showed us alot of the comic before he burned it though.
joyceybear 01-19-2005, 09:24 PM I have to admit that I thought a penguin was coming out of the woods in the last scene after he looked at the picture his father had drawn!
DarthKosh 01-19-2005, 09:25 PM I have to admit that I thought a penguin was coming out of the woods in the last scene after he looked at the picture his father had drawn!
It Did look like Claire had a sunburn.
diabolo237 01-19-2005, 09:28 PM If you search "comic book translation" on the fuselage, I posted the translation a long time ago, and some people didnt think much of it. I am too lazy to find the link and post it
Lost-In-Homework 01-19-2005, 09:39 PM I think I saw on the comic book page An alien and a polar bear! That's all I remember. ??? I don't know what to think of that. What do ya'll think?
bport132 01-19-2005, 09:41 PM I thought maybe the connection was that Michael was the illustrator of the comic book but I guess now that it was just used for foreshadowing.
Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:42 PM I searched it, but it only turned up you saying what you just said :P.
DarthKosh 01-19-2005, 09:43 PM I think I saw on the comic book page An alien and a polar bear! That's all I remember.* ??? I don't know what to think of that. What do ya'll think?
Plus some kind of force sheild over the island.
Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:46 PM Actually, something was sticking up thru the top of that "force shield"
I don't think that's what it was, I think it was clouds, and the thing sticking up out of the middle of it was a city (that's what it looked like). This representing, or giving the impression of an island.
But I have a feeling there's more to that picture than just that...
lostinchitown 01-19-2005, 09:47 PM Ok...i'm not sure how this Post thing works (being that it is my first day as a member of Fuselage), but here goes nothin...
I think that for the next charley/claire-centric episode, The guys are gonna 'make/ask' her to take her to 'black rock', the place that Ethan took her (at least i think), but she AND Charley are gonna be reluctant to let her do it...and i also believe that Lock is Jesus. *No, i'm not losing my mind, i feel that somewhere in this series, Locke is gonna sacrifice himself for the greater good, i think he feels thats his place. *But for now, he's the unofficial leader and my almost favorite character.
And if anyone wants to exact pity on a poor soul like me and explain how this whole mess of replies and posts stuff works, just write to me.
DarthKosh 01-19-2005, 09:49 PM Actually, something was sticking up thru the top of that "force shield"
I don't think that's what it was, I think it was clouds, and the thing sticking up out of the middle of it was a city (that's what it looked like).* This representing, or giving the impression of an island.
But I have a feeling there's more to that picture than just that...
That thing sticking up is the black rock and the sheild is emminating out of it.
lostinchitown 01-19-2005, 09:50 PM what i thought was more important in that comic book was the monsterish purple character getting tortured on some lab table...did u guyz catch that? *
...kinda reminded me of sayid...
p.s. *sorry for buttin in 2 ur convo
Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:51 PM Ooo, hmm. *It was pointy. *I'm not saying the black rock couldn't be pointy, but yeah-- and I thought it was gray "could still be considered black though". *
DarthKosh 01-19-2005, 09:53 PM Ooo, hmm. *It was pointy. *I'm not saying the black rock couldn't be pointy, but yeah-- and I thought it was gray "could still be considered black though". *
It looked like a big black control tower looking thing.
Charlie 01-19-2005, 09:57 PM Yeah, s'pose so.
TerryLost 01-19-2005, 10:01 PM Ok...i'm not sure how this Post thing works (being that it is my first day as a member of Fuselage), but here goes nothin...
I think that for the next charley/claire-centric episode, The guys are gonna 'make/ask' her to take her to 'black rock', the place that Ethan took her (at least i think), but she AND Charley are gonna be reluctant to let her do it...and i also believe that Lock is Jesus. *No, i'm not losing my mind, i feel that somewhere in this series, Locke is gonna sacrifice himself for the greater good, i think he feels thats his place. *But for now, he's the unofficial leader and my almost favorite character.
And if anyone wants to exact pity on a poor soul like me and explain how this whole mess of replies and posts stuff works, just write to me.
Looks like you're doing okay so far! *And welcome.
I'm no expert, but I will try to point some things out. Under group ships there is a thread for folks who worship Locke and follow him. (I like his character, but just can't bring myself to trust him.) Also on the home page in the left top corner in tiny print it says something like "new replies to your post," *this is always a good place to start when you first log on.
As for Claire leading them to the black rock, she's been wandering in the jungle in the dark, dazed; I'm not sure that she can lead them to Ethan/the others/the black rock.
Sorry to be OT.
Huskie 01-19-2005, 10:31 PM I have to admit that I thought a penguin was coming out of the woods in the last scene after he looked at the picture his father had drawn!
No added value to this topic by me here.
I just HAD to say :lol2: to that post . :lol:
OldManFan 01-19-2005, 10:49 PM All I know is Walt was turned to the page with the polar bear just before the first polar bear showed up also.
OldManFan
TerryLost 01-19-2005, 11:30 PM Funny how one (okay two) polar bears on a tropical island can drive us all CRAZY.* The writers must be LTAO over us.* ;D
Fast Eddie 01-19-2005, 11:32 PM On a side note... a polar bear didn't drive us crazy. A ridiculous CGI of a Polar Bear is driving us all crazy. Winktiy wink.
TRoss 01-20-2005, 04:13 AM And she's WHITE and wearing BLACK clothing . . .
car88win 01-20-2005, 04:15 AM here's some help with that comic book:
In early 1940, an extraterrestrial starcraft crash-landed in the countryside north of Gotham City. The craft's pilot, later to be dubbed "Alien X," made his way to Gotham City where his mere appearance terrified Gotham's citizens.
The United States military assigned a young officer, Gunther, to contain the public's knowledge of the extraterrestrial's landing. Gunther brought in the Golden Age Green Lantern and the Flash to assist in what was called a threat to national security. The young, patriotic heroes attacked Alien X and it responded with force.
Working individually, the heroes could not overcome the extraterrestrial. Only together could they marshal their forces and subdue Alien X. Rather than fight further, Alien X surrendered and, against the heroes' wishes, was taken into government custody. Had Alien X been able to communicate with the heroes, they would have seen it meant no harm to Earth. Realizing they had been used and cast aside by the army officer, the Green Lantern and the Flash hid the alien's starship, so it too would not fall into government hands.
Alien X' species was extremely long lived, with life spans of thousands of years. In that perspective, it saw its incarceration as a minor inconvenience. Unknown to the heroes, Alien X was subjected to decades of experiments. Eventually, Alien X was infected with a terminal cancerous disease.
Learning it would soon die, Alien X easily broke free of its imprisonment in the late 1990s. Seeking revenge against those that contributed to its death sentence, Alien X killed Gunther, now a General in charge of the government project and then went after Alan (Green Lantern) Scott and Jay (Flash) Garrick. The heroes were caught by surprise and Garrick had mere moments to leave a clue to his disappearance.
Fortunately for the Golden Age heroes, their wives realized Alien X had been involved. Molly called Kyle Rayner while Joan Garrick called Wally West for help.
Now under Alien X's mental control, the Golden Age heroes unearthed its starship, which was buried in the arctic. When the younger heroes arrived, Alien X ordered the Golden Age Flash and Green Lantern to fight their younger counterparts. Wally West and Kyle Rayner were able to free their elder namesakes and together they defeated Alien X. While West took Garrick and Scott to safety, Rayner tried to help the dying Alien X. Surprised by this sign of compassion, Alien X knew it was too little too late for him and the planet Earth. Rather than face imprisonment once more, Alien X took his own life.
[GREEN LANTERN/FLASH: FASTER FRIENDS # 1]
Before he died, Alien X had activated a summons which brought a swarm of otherworldly creatures to ravage the Earth. This was to be his revenge against the planet of his captors. The creatures were drones, joined in a group mind which teleported to a target world and overran all indigenous life before moving on to the next target world. The quartet of heroes took the battle to the last world the creatures had devoured.
On the unnamed planet, they forced the queen of the alien hive to realize her drones were devouring sentient creatures. Once it understood its responsibility, the queen teleported away with her drones. Earth was spared and the Flashes and Green Lanterns of two eras returned home.
TRoss 01-20-2005, 04:17 AM Sorry about that last post I thought I was putting it after the comment about Claire being sunburned . . .
And she's WHITE and wearing BLACK *clothing . . . .
(that makes more sense, I hope :P)
Templeton 01-20-2005, 04:39 AM On a side note... a polar bear didn't drive us crazy. A ridiculous CGI of a Polar Bear is driving us all crazy. Winktiy wink.
You said it all, pal. That had to be the fakest-looking polar bear I've ever seen. I guess they're not real plentiful on the Hawaiian islands :lol2:
Templeton
TRoss 01-20-2005, 05:12 AM Found some interesting threads on the ABC Lost Thread Boards, including a link to scanned pages from the English version of the comic book (the pages Walt read from), and some interesting theories! ;)
http://forums.go.com/abc/thread?threadID=151204
fletchmorg 01-20-2005, 12:47 PM Help me out here if this has already been answered, but why is the comic book in Spanish to begin with? Susan and Brian moved to Sydney from Italy if I remember correctly. Don't recall meeting any Spanairds yet either. Thoughts?
jcbrown 01-20-2005, 01:27 PM Help me out here if this has already been answered, but why is the comic book in Spanish to begin with?* Susan and Brian moved to Sydney from Italy if I remember correctly.* Don't recall meeting any Spanairds yet either.* Thoughts?
I don't think it originally belonged to Walt - probably belonged to someone else on the plane...Hurley perhaps since he has a Hispanic name.
scraggledoo 01-20-2005, 01:37 PM I haven't read everything on this post yet, so someone may have already mentioned it. But there was a page in that comic book that had some kind of glass looking half dome with a palace on top of it all by itself. I thought that was interesting.
desertislandgirl 01-20-2005, 02:05 PM I thought the electric machine that the guy was hooked up to looked an awful lot like Locke and his machine in the Walkabout flashback - but not sure of the significance. Anyone else?
Willowy 01-20-2005, 02:09 PM I think the polar bear looks weird on purpose. I think he's supposed to look like the "comic book" bear. All cartoony, because that's how Walt sees him.
mamamckie 01-20-2005, 02:41 PM If you want to see good close up pictures of the comic book check out this web page -
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=172&pos=205
The front cover said
"Linterna Verde" -- the Green Lantern - a comic book hero* ... not green friends...* although one of the inside pages did seem to have pictures of alien looking creatures in some of the frames....
it also said
"Lost Amigos mas veloces"* which could be roughly translated as
The Green Lantern and the fast friends.....
Sorry I started typing this before I saw the new post about the English version... GREAT WORK!!!
Can anyone find the English version of the page where the purple alien is hooked up tot he machine?
Thanks!
Chaos_420 02-25-2005, 01:27 PM I've been searching the many threads about Walt's comic book and haven't yet found anyone posting this, but prior apologies if this has been posted before...
Ok, from what I've gotten from various threads (especially, the summary of the plot of the comic posted earlier in this thread), the comic is basically about the Green Lantern and The Flash attacking an alien on the assumption that he is a threat to civilization, when infact he was friendly.
So, this could be a comparison or foreshadowing to the false-accusation-of-Jin thing, OR in my more outlandish theory --- maybe it alludes to the fact that Ethan was a parallel for the benevolent alien, and they killed him even though he was never a real threat to them at all. Now, I must admit, in all the eps with Ethan it never appeared that his intentions were anything but evil (ex: "Bring her to me or I'll kill one of them!"), but on Lost it is seems as if we are always forced to make assumptions about characters only to be later proved wrong, at least to some degree.
Anyone else see a possible connection there?
BurningStar4 04-14-2005, 05:05 PM Someone on another comic book thread who has read the comic book said the Glass Dome was really a space ship that was hidden in the Arctic.....
Charlie 04-14-2005, 09:17 PM Hmm, I don't know about that... but after seeing the epi again, yesterday, the comic book illustrations made me think more and more abou the Montauk and Philidelphia experiments and how they relate to LOST.
waltisfuture 04-14-2005, 10:16 PM You said it all, pal.* That had to be the fakest-looking polar bear I've ever seen.* I guess they're not real plentiful on the Hawaiian islands* :lol2:
Templeton
I kind of thought the polar bear looked real.* I've watched lots of documentaries on them, and when they move, their skin/fur kind of rolls around, like it did on Lost.
Do you think that they were portraying it as the comic book version come to life, so it wouldn't look right?
I think the name Green Lantern has more meaning too.* Not only the color green (lush jungle), but Lantern (light etc.)
This is how I see this comic book relates to The Philadelphia Experiment
It takes place in early 1940, and The P.E.,* happened in 1942.
The government deceives and manipulates in both situations.
In the comic book, they realize that they had been used and cast aside = The French Polynesians, Albert Einstein, crew of the USS Eldridge etc.
The Golden age heroes are rescued by todays namesake = being in two places at once, and Time Travel, are both the themes of The Philadelphia Experiment.
minaloush 04-16-2005, 01:19 AM Well, I am totally ordering a copy of the english comic now. must. must. read.
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