FIRESTARTER!!!! Kind of.....what the heck? He can conjure things up! I want to see this explained by something other than pseudo-science. This opens a new world to theories!!!!

Walt definitely has the force. Someone needs to check his mitochlorian count.

I was thinking that Walt was more like Carrie (Steven King) than the Firestarter . . .

I was thinking that Walt was more like Carrie (Steven King) than the Firestarter . . .


I think that if you want to compare Walt to a character from a Stephen King book, the best book to use would be The Regulators (written as Richard Bachman).

Walt seems to have a power like the little autistic boy from King's book.

(I'm also reminded of the movie Forbidden Planet.)

I'm not a big Steven King fan so my knowledge of characters is limited . . . thus my "Carrie" comment. :)

Okay, okay...I didnt mean literally Firestarter, just that what he appears to be able to do cant be explained by cold hard science fact. :)

He's like the kid in the Twilight Zone episode, It's a Good Life.

http://www.tzworld.com/ITSAGOODLIFE_EP.html

Only he doesn't seem to want to really hurt anyone.

He's seems to be more of a "chick" magnet.

Animal magnetism?

He's like the kid in the Twilight Zone* episode, It's a Good Life.

http://www.tzworld.com/ITSAGOODLIFE_EP.html

Only he doesn't seem to want to really hurt anyone.


True, but that kid knew he had powers. I don't thnk Walt does.

Didn't Walt explain to Hurley that he had 'special' abilities when he kicked his leaf worn butt at backgammon? How could Walt not know? Kid stubs his toe while eating a drumstick and suddenly their back porch is littered like the exit doors to Foster Farms. His mother couldn't afford to pay him attention, his adopto-aussie dad was frightened of him, so it certainly stands to reason Walt had more than a few hundred fowl snuffing tantrums growing up.

Walt spills milk on his Babaar book and everyone in the house runs for the cellar. I think he'd catch on.

Well, TPTB said that they'd use science and pseudo science. Walt ability seems to be a psychic sort of think so I'm thinking they are taking psychic ability as a pseudo science.


Didn't Walt explain to Hurley that he had 'special' abilities when he kicked his leaf worn butt at backgammon? How could Walt not know? Kid stubs his toe while eating a drumstick and suddenly their back porch is littered like the exit doors to Foster Farms. His mother couldn't afford to pay him attention, his adopto-aussie dad was frightened of him, so it certainly stands to reason Walt had more than a few hundred fowl snuffing tantrums growing up.

Walt spills milk on his Babaar book and everyone in the house runs for the cellar. I think he'd catch on.


But we don't have a lot of evidence that he had any episodes that were that huge and obvious. All Walt said to Hurley was that his mom always said he was lucky. In a world that tends to snub the idea of magic and psychic stuff really happeneing, it isn't all that uinusual for someone to take being unusually lucky at face value and not read any psychic powers into it. In this ep, the bird thing was freaky, but it was only one bird, and birds do run into windows from time to time. It would be very easy to dismiss the event as a coincidence and make no connection to Walts emotionality. Now obviously Brian saw something in it, but that doesn't mean Walt saw anything in it. I don't think Brian would tell Walt that he was different to his face. To be honest, Brian and Walt's mom weren't the models of honesty, at least in regards to telling Walt the whole truth.

I suppose what I'm getting at is that from the ep, I assumed that Walt's manifestations of power at this point in the series were generally in the range of unusual luck (the whole visualize and it happens thing) and the occasional animal hitting the window or other such slightly odd but easily explained/reasoned away incidents. I assumed, based on what we've seen that his "difference" was just enough to raise the eyebrow of an observant person, but little enough that someone who wasn't reading into it could dismiss it away.

So to make a long story short (I really do talk too much) I honestly think that Walt doesn't really know that he is actively doing these things. I think he might know that weird things happen around him. He might know that he is unusually lucky in that he gets what he wants more often than other kids, but I don't think he knows or understands that he has control over these events. IMHO of course.

Your mom spends more time nurturing her clients than caring for you, then she up and dies before your eleventh birthday. Your adopted father doesn't love you, your real father got hit by a car and NEVER saw you past the age of two, your dog always wants to run away from you, and your plane has now crashed onto an unchartered island.

If Walt was any luckier he'd have no arms or legs.

Ah yes, but some people would gladly go through all of that in exchange for being able to win at backgammon. You gotta give something to get something.

P.S. The kid didn't seem too broken up about his mother being dead, and what's with Brian making it to the states the very next day? Let's see....my wife just died, I can't handle this kid...TAXI!!!! Get me to the airport, pronto!

If Walt was any luckier he'd have no arms or legs.


But he'd still be ahead.

;)
I am so on board with you for the Firestarter thought! My boyfriend said it just as I was thinking it.

Your mom spends more time nurturing her clients than caring for you, then she up and dies before your eleventh birthday. Your adopted father doesn't love you, your real father got hit by a car and NEVER saw you past the age of two, your dog always wants to run away from you, and your plane has now crashed onto an unchartered island.

If Walt was any luckier he'd have no arms or legs.


I never asid he was lucky, or that any logical person wouldn't reevaluate their luck after all that happened. *I only said that that was Walt's explanation for winning every backgammon game. * Apparently when he magically won or got what he wanted, His mother (who as I said before isn't the model of honesty) *explained it away as luck. *

I personally don't see why a young kid might not accept that explanation at face value and not look too deep into his strange happenings. * That is all I'm saying.

As for his lack of emotionality in regards to his mother's death, I don't have an opinion on that yet. *It could be that by the time Micheal got there, he had had his emotional outbursts and was in the numb phase. *It could be that he is the type to bottle up feelings. *Maybe he is evil incarnate, does all of these things on purpose and I'm totally wrong. *

We have no more than a handful of scenes as evidence and thus far. *It seems to me that so far the evidence indicates that, unless the kid is an evil genius and purposely hiding his actions from everyone, that he doesn't know how, or can't control his ability. *If he knew the extent of his ability and couldn't control it, I'd expect him to be more freaked out. *So I go with the idea that he doesn't know (consciously at least) that it is him that doesn these things and the he has the ability to control it. *Either that or he is the island's Damian.

Your mom spends more time nurturing her clients than caring for you, then she up and dies before your eleventh birthday. Your adopted father doesn't love you, your real father got hit by a car and NEVER saw you past the age of two, your dog always wants to run away from you, and your plane has now crashed onto an unchartered island.

If Walt was any luckier he'd have no arms or legs.


Ok, THAT was funny! :)

I also think that Walt probably knows something's different about him (do you think these events, small as they are, happen with no feeling behind them on his part?) but mostly I don't think he's had anyone around him willing or able to talk about it with. Special or not he has the intellect of a 10 year old. I think thats part of why he likes Locke so much - Locke taps into and will discuss with him who he is and what he's capable of... or was starting to before Michael forbade it.

Do you think Michael will reverse his choice about Locke spending time with Walt after the big polar bear save?

Nanse is right on Walt's take on his "luck". He's just 10 years old. To a kid, the whole world is magic. They take those kind of things for granted.

My question to you all - do you think Walt killed his Mom? Just before she started feeling bad, Walt was getting angry because she wasn't paying attention to him. He killed the bird (or, at least, we are led to believe so), perhaps he lashed out at his Mom as well.

Do you think Michael will reverse his choice about Locke spending time with Walt after the big polar bear save?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Michael ask Locke to help Walt learn more on how to defend himself. He realized last night just how much self preservation means out there. He doesn't want Walt to not be able to defend himself next time if they can't get there in time.

Isn't there folklore that says someone in the house dies when a bird hits the window and dies? I'm sure there is. Plus, it seemed like the bird showed up b/c Walt wanted Brian to look at the bird in the book and he wouldn't look *- guess he got his attention. I don't know if I believe that walt *conjurs* things - or if that was just Brian being superstitious and uncomfortable around kids.

I think that's Hitchcock folklore isn't it? In Africa they have a similar theory, lion hits the patio door, someone in the family is probably in for a bad afternoon.

Walt's mom died, in just ONE week, because of a blood infection right?

Walt is a blood relative.

I can accept that he wouldn't be totally distraught about his mom dying. By now it's been about a month since she got sick, three weeks since she died, and she was the type of person who once gone, was only missed by herself. Heck he probably wore his best dancing shoes to the funeral.

Eulogy: "My mother is dead. See, I AM lucky!"

Walt's mom died, in just ONE week, because of a blood infection right?



No it was a blood red herring!

Actually it was a blood disease, and in my line of work it is possible for someone to go undiagnosed for so long that they can die within a week of diagnosis. She probably felt sick for a while and it wasnt until she was really sick that she went for treatment.

Just wait for Walt's Flashback when they are on the plane...."Is anyone even listening to me!!!" "Anyone??" Then the plane breaks up into pieces...

Claire goes to her fortune teller, who convinces her to go on the Oceanic flight so that she is forced to raise her child herself.

Walt has magical powers, er, I mean psychic powers.

Yup, it's quite obvious that the claim that Lost would be based on science or pseudoscience was a hallucigenic paste induced fantasy. This show is losing credibility with each episode and at the current pace won't make it through it's second season. Which is really sad because it was such a great premise.

Uhhh, just to be a nerd. Walt isn't starting fires so he wouldn't be a Firestarter, or a pyrokinetic.which is the term. He's most likely a Teek, or telekinetic but that doesn't explain him conjuring blurry polar bears.

He might be some omni Psionic who can effect reality or something. Perhaps the island enhances what he was born with naturally. Being that the supernatural is pretty much shot to sh*t and everyone is saying its psuedo science I figure the island is a giant psionic amp. Perhaps the black rock is some alien thingie, meteorite that enhances aspects of a person's biology / psyche, etc. Maybe its unique form of radiation kills people too, drives them mad...The Sickenss.

Or it could be Alien Polar Bears attacking mankind.

Uhhh, just to be a nerd. Walt isn't starting fires so he wouldn't be a Firestarter, or a pyrokinetic.which is the term. He's most likely a Teek, or telekinetic but that doesn't explain him conjuring blurry polar bears.

He might be some omni Psionic who can effect reality or something. Perhaps the island enhances what he was born with naturally. Being that the supernatural is pretty much shot to sh*t and everyone is saying its psuedo science I figure the island is a giant psionic amp. Perhaps the black rock is some alien thingie, meteorite that enhances aspects of a person's biology / psyche, etc. Maybe its unique form of radiation kills people too, drives them mad...The Sickenss.

Or it could be Alien Polar Bears attacking mankind.


He still could be a TK and creating the bears out stuff that is lying around.

He still could be a TK and creating the bears out stuff that is lying around.


TK is mainly throwing stuff around with your mind. I don't think a TEEK could whip up a polar bear and hold it together and make it attack itself. Why would you?

He seems to be manipulating the environment around him.

Then again somebody will show up with some goop that does all that for you from the island.

I keep seeing people referencing the writers claim that all things Lost could be explained via "science or psuedo science", and then acting bewildered that every instance of the show can't be explained on Nova. "Psuedo science" is just that, "counterfeit science". They might as well have said "everything will be written logically, or be scripted by monkeys with pencils in their butts". They left the door WIDE open with that su-su-psuedio statement and then drove a plane through it.

Anyone want to buy a genuine psuedo-hundred dollar bill?

Fan of Mr. Tibbs now.

Why didn't they just call it magic?

Walt's an up and coming Uber Mageling and Locke is Merlin, that backwards aging little imp from Arthur's days.

Where's Morgan Le Fey?

TK is mainly throwing stuff around with your mind. I don't think a TEEK could whip up a polar bear and hold it together and make it attack itself. Why would you?

He seems to be manipulating the environment around him.

Then again somebody will show up with some goop that does all that for you from the island.


A TK is a person who can manipulate matter and energy with his mind. So I do no see why he couldn't do that.

Fan of Mr. Tibbs now.


Welcome to the club, we've got jackets. ;)

If someone could listen close enough, maybe in the background you can hear the stewardess bell ringing (and ringing and ringing) right before the plane breaks apart.

Toonces!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG that is so funny. We had a cat at work that the manager named Cybil, but I called it Toonces. She used to literally scream at me, "Her name is not Toonces!"
Love the picture, too.

P.S. I paid for my jacket through Paypal, but haven't received it yet. Who do I call?

i think that when walt is upset, he somehow unknowingly conjures up whatever animal he's thinking of...I don't think there's a word for wat i'm thinking...

About Walt killing his mother: I think it's possible he had something to do with it, though not intentionally. He might have wished that something would happen to make her stay home from work, and his ability that he doesn't really know about went to work overtime.

I don't think he truly knows about his talents, because of his reaction after throwing the knife. After Locke asked Walt to picture throwing the knife in his mind, and it worked, Walt seemed genuinly astonished (that may be too strong a word--"suprised" maybe?) that the knife throw was exactly how he pictured it. Plus, if he knew about his talent, he'd probably use it more often.


Why didn't they just call it magic?


Seriously. I expected Hagrid to show up last night and say "You're a wizard, Walt."

The word is CONJURACIOUS. As in:
Dude, you just made a vicious polar bear appear out of nowhere. That was conjuracious, man.


Sorry.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Michael ask Locke to help Walt learn more on how to defend himself.* He realized last night just how much self preservation means out there.* He doesn't want Walt to not be able to defend himself next time if they can't get there in time.


Agreed. *I think Locke (whom I don't think is as evil as some here do) has sucked in another island resident.

As for Walt killing his Mom - No, I don't think so. *I do think he makes things happen, be that by telekinesis, some other psychic ability or actual magic. *I think its less in his control than we want it to be... and I predict that Locke helps him contol and develop this gift. *Fast.

I think I am so in love with the word "Conjuracious" I am going to buy a cat or something just so I can name it that.

And yes, Walt it totally conjuracious. So would he be Slitherin?

Uhmmmm, does Sawyer just run around stealing sh*t all day?

BTW i just read a spolier about Claire ands Ethan threatening everyone in some upcoming thingie. So my question is, why doesn't someone grab one of the new guns and blow his *** away next time he shows up?

Dude there's not even a need to argue the point, he kidnapped a pregnant girl and almost killed a guy...kill him!

Shoot him in the face hunny bunny!

i don't think that walt killed his mum. seriously doubt it. that's the word for it! :laugh:

We don't know what Walt is yet, or even if he is anything other than a normal boy. I know the show is leading us towards him being some kind of super-powered being, but we have been deceived before. Walt is reading about a bird, and then that bird hits the window, this could be a coincidence. One time I was watching the Ring and my phone rang right after the videotape was watched. I remember reading about a drive-in that got hit by a tornado while it was playing Twister. Strange coincidences do happen in real life. As for the polar bears, I am not completely convinced they were brought about by Walt's "powers." Walt has been reading the comic book for how long? Yet the polar bears have showed up only twice. The first time the polar bear wasn't close to Walt, and the second time the bear showed up a day after the comic book burned. So if Walt thought up the polar bears, why did they show up so far away if the bird popped up at Walt's house? I am probably wrong, but I am just trying to play devil's advocate here.

I rememeber this one time I was totally thinking about eating a delicious bass and my friend right next to me got hit in the face with a BASS! Can you imagine the odds of that? Totally conjuracious!

That word is way too much fun.

it is fun, isn't it? :lol2: hmm, i want dom to be online now...

If Locke even half-suspected that Walt could 'conjuralize' his own personal petting zoo, he'd be handing over a box of No. 2 pencils and begging "Please, think of pigs, I'm supposed to be hunting right now".

Man, I can't wait for Walt to hit puberty!

If Walt is such a great conjuratorist why doesn't show him a friggin photo or drawing of a raft, like one big enough for 48 people with cable and bathrooms. Yeesh.

Shoot him in the face hunny bunny!


Hey, hey! I'm a pacifist, Goof! Oh, you weren't talking to me :-[

In follow-up to my last post, I don't think that Walt purposefully killed his Mom. Rather, like welsh said, that he was angry at her for being ignored. He might have had some passing thought during his anger and up pops this blood disorder. I really felt that after we say Bryan's meeting with Michael. Bryan really seemed afraid of Walt, like he had some idea of his power. I'd love to see more of Walt's backstory. Perhaps that is why they moved around so much (Walt was so conjuracious that he kills people when he gets angry).

So nobody here is on the "special" title of this episode being for Vincent and not Walt? It's the dog that is conjuracious people! ;)

He still could be a TK and creating the bears out of stuff that is lying around.

Like the villain in Dean Koontz's book Dragon Tears.

That's not simply telekinesis though.* Bending a spoon is telekinesis.* If Walt built the polar bear, the bear would basically be a "golem."* Building an animal out of dirt and plants isn't just moving things with your mind.* It's like alchemy.* You'd be changing one chemical into another.* That's not TK.

We don't know what Walt is yet, or even if he is anything other than a normal boy. I know the show is leading us towards him being some kind of super-powered being, but we have been deceived before. Walt is reading about a bird, and then that bird hits the window, this could be a coincidence. One time I was watching the Ring and my phone rang right after the videotape was watched. I remember reading about a drive-in that got hit by a tornado while it was playing Twister. Strange coincidences do happen in real life. As for the polar bears, I am not completely convinced they were brought about by Walt's "powers." Walt has been reading the comic book for how long? Yet the polar bears have showed up only twice. The first time the polar bear wasn't close to Walt, and the second time the bear showed up a day after the comic book burned. So if Walt thought up the polar bears, why did they show up so far away if the bird popped up at Walt's house? I am probably wrong, but I am just trying to play devil's advocate here.

I don't think the bird hitting the window was a coincidence because of the look on Brians face when it happened ....he looked scared of him(Walt) as if this weren't the first time something like this had happened, and he even said as much to Michael when he was handing him the plane tickets. We've only seens a few instances on the island of strange things happening around Walt ....but from Brian's reaction to the bird and his haste in wanting to unload him on Michael after Susan's death, I would say he has witnessed many more.

there's definitely something about walt...

I'd have found it freakier if the dead bird (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=27253&fullsize=1/) was the same type as the one in the bird book (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=27258&fullsize=1/) rather than some misc. bird.

Isn't there folklore that says someone in the house dies when a bird hits the window and dies?

You know, I had a TOTAL Scarlet Ibis moment back there.

I don't believe that Walt had anything to do with the death of his mother. However, the idea that is being thrown around the boards that this show can easily be explained by science is starting to deteriorate in my mind more and more every week. I guess some people might consider psychic abilities and such to be a science, which would technically make it that statement true. The writers are obviously pushing us to believe that Walt has some sort of ability to be a sort of 'firestarter', but that makes me question my judgement. I tend to think that if something starts to become obvious, like Walt having special abilities, that there is another explaination, but we are being steered away from it. The problem I have is that I can think of no other good explaination for the bird and polar bear.

I'd have found it freakier if the dead bird (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=27253&fullsize=1/) was the same type as the one in the bird book (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=27258&fullsize=1/) rather than some misc. bird.



Exactly, this could be further evidence that Walt is not what people are saying he is.