View Full Version : Henry's mind games
wally3000 03-02-2006, 07:06 AM Sorry if this has been threaded already...Henry Gale has now successfully found Sayid and Locke's "hot buttons". He knew how to get personal with Sayid, by bringing back memories of Shannon and he knew that Locke had previous anger issues, so he belittled him. He noticed that beneath Locke's "wise-man" facade is an easily manipulated man with questions about his own self worth. Gale has masterfully accelerated the conflict at the top of the "losties" power structure.
bearsgonefishin 03-02-2006, 07:12 AM I agree Henry played Locke like a chump.
Colonel Sanders 03-02-2006, 07:15 AM Henry is IMHO an Other and he allowed himself to be captured so he could accelarate the conflict in the group...
pippin926 03-02-2006, 07:16 AM Whos next.. Jack? Hes trying to get everyone against eachother. Sayid really did kick the **** out of him though, eh!!
Bealzbob 03-02-2006, 07:17 AM Indeed. He played them both like a chump really, and I'm still not sure whether the look he gave Sayid after his beating was one of a quiet confidence or one of a man who just had the cr*p beaten out of him, like a whimpering dog.
Anyway, I definitely think he is an Other and as for the reference to Stephen King. My take is that he has access to the outside world and that he knows King is a modern prominent author and that mentioning him would have potentially given him a 'timeline' alibi.
I don't think the fact that King debuted in 1973 was meant to come into it because back then he only had 1 book out and would NOT have been the first thing to mention as suggestive reading for someone stuck on an island 20-odd years later - someone who, to Sayid, could not have known of King's career progress since.
No, I definitely think King was mentioned to throw the Losties off the fact that he is an other and that they do have access to the outside world.
Perhaps Gale is really DeRoot. I agree, he definitely knew Sayid's weakspot and Locke's weakspot. Would make sense if someone knew about their characters both on and off the island. Do you think Gale was the boat guy, with a fake beard and other make-up?
Bealzbob 03-02-2006, 07:47 AM No, the boat guy (Zeke) was the guy who called Ethan out of the room in the Claire flashback to tell him he was supposed to get 'the list'. He was a much stockier build and a taller guy.
And he certainly wouldn't have lost all that weight in the amount of time that passed between Claire's injections and the current day.
The_Others_2005 03-02-2006, 07:47 AM Henrey is indeed smart, but that doesn't prove he's an Other, after seeing this episode, I'm not so sure there are Others.
Bealzbob 03-02-2006, 07:54 AM What do you define as an 'other'. They are 'others' in that they are another distinct group apart from the crash survivors - that's all 'others' has really meant up to now.
The one thing that HAS changed after this episode is the motive of the others. Maybe we're just not so sure now that the 'others' are a malicious group. The costumes suggest they are trying to convince the survivors that they are also living wild, all the while protecting their cosy lifestyle (after all if they turned up in white coats, the Losties would go searching for a lab, but why search if you've no reason to).
But they are definitely others.
The question now remains whether Henry is one of that group of others (doctors or whatever) or whether he really did crashland with his wife.
This episode does raise questions because if he is an other, then Rousseau captured him 'in costume'. Did he mean to be caught ? Did he intentionally get caught so that he would end up with the Losties. Or is he not one at all?
I think he is.
The_Others_2005 03-02-2006, 07:57 AM Well, what I meant is that I don't belevie The Others are in the same situation we previously thought them to be in. Henrey Gale is indeed an Other, and it's obvious enough, they're going to pull dramatic irony on us with locke and Lucia attempting to rescue him.
Bealzbob 03-02-2006, 08:03 AM Agreed. Our outlook on the others has definitely changed after this episode.
rob1217 03-02-2006, 08:05 AM Anyone else think Henry got Locke riled up a bit too easily? All he had to say was one little line hinting Locke was in the shadow of a genius, and then all of a sudden Locke throws dishes around and is now planning to get him out of the Hatch That really didn't take a lot of effort- either Henry's that good, or Locke's fuse is getting incredibly small.
blahbityblah 03-02-2006, 08:08 AM I was kinda disappointed with Locke. I thought that of all the people on the island, he'd be the first to notice what Henry was trying to do. I guess playing second banana to Jack is really getting to him.
I'm definately leaning towards the "Henry is an Other & wanted to get caught" theory.
bearsgonefishin 03-02-2006, 08:23 AM Anyone else think Henry got Locke riled up a bit too easily? All he had to say was one little line hinting Locke was in the shadow of a genius, and then all of a sudden Locke throws dishes around and is now planning to get him out of the Hatch That really didn't take a lot of effort- either Henry's that good, or Locke's fuse is getting incredibly small.
I just think Locke isnt as strong as people have made him out to be, if he was he wouldnt have been crying, pounding on the hatch or cying on the floor of the computer room. Plus he has a history of anger problems, which probably never goes away, Im not a shrink but I would assume that problems like that never totally go away, people just learn to deal with them or channel that anger towards something else. The things that have happened over the last few months have probably distracted him and thus he probably has regressed some. We know he's not the hardest person to con, his dad got his kidney and Sawyer got the guns. All this played right into Henry's hands. (IMO)
GotLost4815162342 03-02-2006, 08:24 AM Henry is IMHO an Other and he allowed himself to be captured so he could accelarate the conflict in the group...
I agree with this. I think that Henry Gale is somehow involved with the experiment the Others are conducting. I think that since things didn't go, with the original losties, the way they did with the tailies, that Henry Gale is an undercover operative for DHARMA. I think he is there to finish the list they Ethan was supposed to compose. Maybe since they didn't get Claire/Aaron, they are revising their plan/going to plan b. Just my opinion.
Colonel Sanders 03-02-2006, 08:50 AM I agree with this. I think that Henry Gale is somehow involved with the experiment the Others are conducting. I think that since things didn't go, with the original losties, the way they did with the tailies, that Henry Gale is an undercover operative for DHARMA. I think he is there to finish the list they Ethan was supposed to compose. Maybe since they didn't get Claire/Aaron, they are revising their plan/going to plan b. Just my opinion.
Something that just occured to me after watching the preview for the next new episode of LOST:
Sun thinks she may be pregnant.....interesting that Henry should show up at about the same time. Perhaps Henry is there to watch over Sun?!?
Hmmmm....
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