Ok right Claire was kidnapped in week 2 or 3.

She spent 2 weeks in captivity or whatever.

So that brings us up to a month.

Which means the others must have cleared the medical hatch, of all its stuff in the last month on the island.

How did the losties not see or hear. They must have caused noise or somewhat when they were moving all the furniture out. Nearly everything in the baby room was taken, beds and dressers and cots, how could they move them through the jungle without anyone spotting.

Not even Danielle

There is an escape hatch, also others are a sneaky bunch and we don't know how far inland it is.

It could be right in the middle of the island for all we know, theres no way the losties could be expected to hear them move especially if they went out through the escape hatch which probably leads underground...

There is an escape hatch, also others are a sneaky bunch and we don't know how far inland it is.

You'd think Claire would search more for the medicine with the escape hatch there.

Hopefully some explanation will come soon cause its eating at me.

Ok right Claire was kidnapped in week 2 or 3.

She spent 2 weeks in captivity or whatever.

So that brings us up to a month.

Which means the others must have cleared the medical hatch, of all its stuff in the last month on the island.

How did the losties not see or hear. They must have caused noise or somewhat when they were moving all the furniture out. Nearly everything in the baby room was taken, beds and dressers and cots, how could they move them through the jungle without anyone spotting.

Not even Danielle

Perhaps all the hatches are linked by tunnels somehow? It could be possible, even in the hatch they're in now, that they haven't discovered "everything" about it. There could be a hidden door behind a panel, something of that sort.

i highly doubt that the others would make so much noise that the losties would hear them. they are just to smart to make such a stupid mistake like that. And plus the island is pretty big this place could be anywhere. Even a kilometre difference b/w the other's hatch and the losties would kill all sound that the others would have made.

Perhaps all the hatches are linked by tunnels somehow? It could be possible, even in the hatch they're in now, that they haven't discovered "everything" about it. There could be a hidden door behind a panel, something of that sort.

I agree. I think there is a network of underground tunnels. I think that is how the others move around without being seen or leaving tracks.

Ok right Claire was kidnapped in week 2 or 3.

She spent 2 weeks in captivity or whatever.

So that brings us up to a month.

Which means the others must have cleared the medical hatch, of all its stuff in the last month on the island.

How did the losties not see or hear. They must have caused noise or somewhat when they were moving all the furniture out. Nearly everything in the baby room was taken, beds and dressers and cots, how could they move them through the jungle without anyone spotting.

Not even Danielle

the same way they don't "see" that henry is playing them. :)

I am having problems with the outlines of the decorations in the babys room. Why would the paint be so faded as to leave behind an impression after only a few weeks. She saw the outlines of the pictures hanging on the walls - to see those outlines the paint was seriously faded. Something like that (paint fading) does not happen overnight. How long were thos pictures hanging there ?

Ok right Claire was kidnapped in week 2 or 3.

She spent 2 weeks in captivity or whatever.

So that brings us up to a month.

Which means the others must have cleared the medical hatch, of all its stuff in the last month on the island.

How did the losties not see or hear. They must have caused noise or somewhat when they were moving all the furniture out. Nearly everything in the baby room was taken, beds and dressers and cots, how could they move them through the jungle without anyone spotting.

Not even Danielle

Did Danielle hear or see the crash of Flight 815? Henry said he didn't, and he was farther away from it than Danielle was.

Consider this:
Danielle has been on the island for 16 years, and she never saw other people on the island ("...But I hear them, they whisper....")

How could you NOT open the escape hatch and at least look inside? This show is becoming more frustrating than fun!

I am having problems with the outlines of the decorations in the babys room. Why would the paint be so faded as to leave behind an impression after only a few weeks. She saw the outlines of the pictures hanging on the walls - to see those outlines the paint was seriously faded. Something like that (paint fading) does not happen overnight. How long were thos pictures hanging there ?
This point makes me belive those flashbacks were years before they found the hatch. Like in desmonds hatch we saw the opening sequence, everything was clean, crisp, bright. Then when we see the hatch in real time, its all dirty, old and looks musty. This makes me belive that both events were flashbacks years before they found the hatches. But then claire couldn't of been pregnant years before she found the hatch, so this kind of disproves my theory. But still, its something to go on. Anyone else agree?

There could be plenty of explanations about why things disappeared and where they are, for all we know they are locked in a storage room somewhere down there in that same facility, to make it look like they moved out...as for fading paint, I would guess that nursey has been used a lot over the years it could well be 20+ years old...and the flashbacks you can bet happened recently not years ago, I have watched the episode three times now and that medical area wasn't as pristine as a lot of people keep saying...there were dingy molding walls in the Hall when Ethan was walking with Claire, take a second look and you'll see this....

I'm confused... so you're saying that the losties should have every inch of the island scoped out to the point that if anyone moves around at all they would notice it? I think that's a little absurd, don't you? I'm sure the losties have only discovered maybe 10% of the entire island so far... so that leaves 90% undiscovered territory.. and there are only like 30 of them so I'm sure the others can move around without being detected fairly easily.

I am having problems with the outlines of the decorations in the babys room. Why would the paint be so faded as to leave behind an impression after only a few weeks. She saw the outlines of the pictures hanging on the walls - to see those outlines the paint was seriously faded. Something like that (paint fading) does not happen overnight. How long were thos pictures hanging there ?

They've probably used it for several babies in the past...including Danielle's Alex. It makes you wonder how long exactly this has been going on, and how many of the adult "others" were once babies raised in that room.

I can see why people would wonder about Danielle not hearing a huge plane crash into the island, but I really wouldn't expect the Losties to hear anyone moving out of a bunker. We really don't know how far the medical facility was from the beach. I have neighbors that are in a house 50 yards from me and I rarely hear anything at all from them. Granted, I'm not outside all of the time listening, but they are very close and the only noise I ever hear from them is their car starting.

Jen

Just as an aside, everybody knows about white noise generators right? They sense and then create a noise field which counteracts the noise in a given area, essentially making it so you can't hear anything. Not saying they are on the island, but it is ONE good explanation as to why certain people can't hear all this banging.

The others could have rolled up in Uhaul trucks and cargo ships and the Losties wouldd have been like, "The Others are up to some more of their crazy antics. Those Others are real characters."
More importantly, with the information that Kate and Claire know, the Losties should have a very good idea or at least a very good guess at what is going on. Obviously, the Others are being manipulative, and they should not trust them that they are safe. I guess Michael and Walt are not important enough to look for anymore. I guess Sawyer forgot about being shot. I guess Charlie has forgotten about being strung up by a rope. I guess the tailies forgot about everyone else being kidnapped. If I was Claire and my child had been possibly infected and Rosseau told me if the child was then it would have to be killed. I would go ahead and search the island until I could find some Others and get some answers. Claire was kidnapped, they wanted her baby, and they gave it a shot. All this happened for a reason, and in the future something else will happen because of all that, you may want to find out before it is too late. But the rash and fever are gone, so I guess that means none of that stuff ever happened.
Good ol' TV. Hss anyone seen the movie Eight Below, or did you hear about the guy in Colorado who caught off his own arm to survive, or perhaps the movie Touching the Void? These are examples of the steps humans take to survive, in the real world. They are proactive. The Losties wont even search the Island, We get the relaionships and backstories, enough.

I thought I had seen somewhere that two hatches are connected to each other (i.e--they're in pairs). One hatch on one side of the island leads to another hatch somewhere else. If so, then all the Others had to do was hide the Medical hatch with shrubbery (as they did) and go through the tunnel until they reached the other hatch door.
By the way, someone had to have come out a hatch and come around to put up the shrubbery...you can't do that from the inside! Unless you have telekinetics working for you.....hmmm......................

second that. i mean...the ladies search like one room of the place and then roll out. what is in the other rooms or lockers? annoy. everyone only remembers things when it's important to the week's plot. i'm not really concerned with the losties not hearing the others move the equipment out of the medical hatch. they are sneaky and who cares. that isn't really that i'mportant is it? isn't more important to know WHY they moved the stuff? i'm really hoping for an episode where the losties sit around and share all their knowledge and come up with their own theories! here's something else i'm gleaning from this episode....sun gets pregnant, others want to take her...we finally find out what they want with the kids....9 months in tv time should put us at about...season 7

I thought I had seen somewhere that two hatches are connected to each other (i.e--they're in pairs). One hatch on one side of the island leads to another hatch somewhere else. If so, then all the Others had to do was hide the Medical hatch with shrubbery (as they did) and go through the tunnel until they reached the other hatch door.
By the way, someone had to have come out a hatch and come around to put up the shrubbery...you can't do that from the inside! Unless you have telekinetics working for you.....hmmm......................
Exactly my thoughts, but how do they do it? Unless its not usually covered when it was in use? maybe it was just covered up after being abandoned so the losties wouldn't find the cure?

A) It's in the middle of the Jungle underground

B) You can never hear the others except when they are talking to you or talking about you (the whispers)

C) The underground tunnel/transportation system...I won't explain unless needed....I've said this 100000 and 1 times on other boards and I'm sure you all are sick of reading about it! :)

1. They are VERY quiet. And remember they don't leave tracks.
2. We don't know how far the medical hatch is from the camp.

i guess this is one of those if a tree falls in the forest questions. If the Others move out of the medical bunker - does anyone hear? I kinda just want to know where they went!
and yes I've been thinking this whole time there's gotta be underground tunnel systems - to go from bunker to bunker so the scientists can stay hidden while observing ;)...
They probably moved b/c they didn't know Claire didn't remember - they probably thought she would go back to camp and the Losties would come looking for them..

What if Danielle is with the others? I know that is unlikely, but...
She sure distracted them pretty well at the end of season one. She convinced Jack and Locke to herd everybody into the caves to hide, to keep away from the others. She led the more tenatious ones on a wild goose chase after Claire's baby, and sent the other ones to blow the lid off the hatch. She could have been instructed to do this in order to give the others time to evacuate the medical hatch. And they could have given Desmond warning that this was coming...which was why when he ran out of the hatch, he seemed to be running with purpose, to a specific direction. Perhaps he had already been told which way to go.