I've gone back and watched season 1 and 2 yet again, and I am appalled at how quickly Cliare dumped Charlie. After how much Charlie did for her... saving Aaron, caring for him, creating that Bjorn... wow. Many people in Charlie's situation would do nothing... who needs the reponsibility.

I realize he is is a recovering drug addict, but who is anyone to judge.

If you agree, declare it on the "lage" with me.... "Claire, you were an idiot for dumping Charlie!"

No. He lied. I don't like liars, and I don't think Claire would either. Especially after she got attached to Tom and he just dumped her.

I don't think she dumped him that quickly. After she found out he was a drug addict she said she needed space, she still talked to him but just wanted time away from him.
Then Charlie took the baby off her twice which just made it harder for Claire to trust Charlie!

Yeah he just shoulda left the baby alone, wouldn't you try and keep a druggy who kidnapped your baby away from your baby?

I love Charlie but carrying heroin around a baby is not a good idea... Futhermore, I think she was a little irritated with Charlie and was looking for good excuse to through him out. She a mom and her baby’s safety should come first.

However, she should have listened to him about his dreams. She had a similar experience in Raised by Another (sleepwalking and prophetic dreams) and Charlie was the only one to believe her back then. If she had listen to him then the whole setting the camp of fire and baby snatching would not have happened.

I agree that once Claire realized that Charlie had been keeping drugs around the baby, and lied about it, she was right to tell him to stay away. When you have a baby to protect, that has to come before anything else, even a friendship with someone who has done a lot for you.

But when Charlie said he wanted things to get back to the way they were before, she said "There was no before." She said they were friends, but the way she said it, it sounded like she considered him as barely more than acquaintance. It certainly didn't acknowledge that he'd been hung from a tree for her sake, or that he brought Aaron back at the cost of having gunpowder poured in the cut on his head and lit. She belittled their friendship, that's what I thought was harsh.

But when Charlie said he wanted things to get back to the way they were before, she said "There was no before." She said they were friends, but the way she said it, it sounded like she considered him as barely more than acquaintance. It certainly didn't acknowledge that he'd been hung from a tree for her sake, or that he brought Aaron back at the cost of having gunpowder poured in the cut on his head and lit. She belittled their friendship, that's what I thought was harsh.

Spot on. I understand her trust issues and that how Charlie was acting towards her even before the baby snatching was suffocating and a little off. She did what she had to do. But I agree that her method was cold and unfair.

Actually, it first hit me when she told Locke in Abandoned that she thought she and Charlie were "practically strangers". That surprised me after all they had been through together, plus the talks, the beach walks, etc. Then to tell Charlie there was no before, well you could just see his face darken and I can understand why he threw her that line about Locke being her friend. Charlie needed a friend at that moment, and Claire proved that she was not willing to be that person for him.

Question: anyone else think she was way too hard on Charlie?
My opinion: I think Charlie deserved to be left on his own, and he deserved to be punched numerous times by Locke...and he also deserved to be hanged (OK, I'll admit I am exaggerating a little here). He wants drugs more than anything...but he also wants Claire. Let him stay there with his cuts and bruises, along with his heroine.

Question: anyone else think she was way too hard on Charlie?
My opinion: I think Charlie deserved to be left on his own, and he deserved to be punched numerous times by Locke...and he also deserved to be hanged (OK, I'll admit I am exaggerating a little here). He wants drugs more than anything...but he also wants Claire. Let him stay there with his cuts and bruises, along with his heroine.

I know that Charlie had not started using again, but I agree that Claire was right to cast him out of her life. Especially after the events of "The 23rd Psalms" and "Fire and Water".

wouldn't you want to help charlie the way he helped you i also want to see the underlying reason why he started using in the beginning i have a feeling its not really his fault per se. Moreover i thought they could have listened to charlie and be a little more complacent instead of the hes a druggy so he must be wrong about everything sorry i just felt bad for charlie i know the feeling of trying to make things up to people when you're really desperate and people will have nothing of it its one of the most depressing and frustrating things. hence cool angry charlie who has little will to live actually i like his character a little better now

Yes, she was too hard... I mean, after all Charlie is a good guy.

Yes, she was too hard... I mean, after all Charlie is a good guy.

I like Charlie but, doing that to Sun was not a good thing, he's not much of a good guy!

I don't think she was too hard on him at all. It's her baby, there are enough dangers on the island without adding a drug addict into the mix. And when said they don't really know each other, its true, they don't they've only been talking for just over a month or so. How well can you get to know someone in just a month?

No. She should have physically piicked him up and thrown him into a tree.

Yes I think Claire has been a bit hard on Charlie but I can understand why her defences kicked in.

It is a shame but I really hope that edventually she regains her trust in him, after all Charlie is a wonderful guy at heart (Um, can't explaain the Sun incident though) and he genuinely cares a lot for her and the little un and his intentions have been misunderstood.

I think that they will resolves this in time and they will be the cutest couple again. :grin:

I have to admit im not the biggest Charlie fan in the world (mainly due to his drug addiction) but I do sometimes feel sorry for him. It doesn't matter what he does it always seems to backfire on him, He cannot do right for doing wrong, I honestly believe he is attracted to Claire and obviously has formed a bond with Aaron, but does Claire feel the same?, I get the feeling that she doesn't, she likes him as a friend but that's about it, I guess the same goes for Locke.


But...


I wonder if we could have a potential “Mulder and Scully” situation on our hands. ;)
100%
In the foreseeable future....

I think Claire & Charlie will get together eventually but I think the whole situation will revolve around the most important factor in each of their particular lives, which is obviously Aaron.

Picture the scenario...

Aaron ends up in a life and death situation, it alls looks bleak, the little ankle-biter is going to meet his maker, when Charlie comes and saves the day...

But at a cost, he sustains fatal wounds and after he and Claire declare their undying love for each other he dies in claire's arms,

It will be a real tear jerker, and a fitting way for Charlie to leave planet earth a forgiven spirit.

(Obviously this is just a 5min keyboard bash, so don't be to critical of me!) ;) :)

Yes, she was too hard... I mean, after all Charlie is a good guy.

I'm with you on this one. Charlie may have messed up, but he is a good guy. Claire and Charlie need to make up!!! :D

They will get together but like ive said previously it will be a case of “will they, wont they” the writers will milk it for all its worth, (no offence intended) when they do eventually get together bang disaster strikes, the whole show revolves around ratings, having Claire and Charlie in a successful meaningful relationship might prove a short term hit, but in the long term it wont work, people will get bored, death and destruction are proven rating winners, most shows follow this trend as im sure most people will agree!.
(But hey I could be wrong!, I usually am!) :)

I sincerely hope they can find their way through this. She does have a valid reason to go crazy on him though because of her loving mothering nature. I think that he'll lose even more points with her when it is discovered that he is the one who attacked Sun. Claire will definitely think he is dangerous. But they are just so cute together. Too bad things happen the way they do.

Claire is suppose to play an important role in the finale so maybe they will get back together there though i doubt it. they may get back together because(Lost last episode tiny spoiler)
what with Charlie going to get dynamite with Eko

She thinks that keeping Charlie away will keep her baby safe but she is very hard on him what with the whole were just friends thing. What about all he went through for her like beliefing her when no one else would, Almost dying in the tree and getting gun powder put in him. If you ask me anyone who goes through that to get a girl deserves to get her i mean he obviously cares a lot about her the question is: is it mutual