The poster on Lost-Media.com clearly shows that it says Occupational Therapists Month 2000, in the scene with Michael in the wheelchair...it's mentioned that Walt is almost 2 years old at this time...since he's 10 y.o. in the show's present-time that would make it 2008 (not 2004).

So if it is 2008, what would be the significance of this if any?

I find it hard to believe that the show's creators just felt like setting the show 4 years in the future unless it meant something...or is that their way dropping another "4" clue to the viewers?

Well, there's been much speculation about a 4 year time period.

On these boards people talk about things that happend 4 years ago to the characters. And apparently JJ uses 4 a lot in other shows (don't watch 'em so...).

You could definately have a good point, cause the show taped in '04 and add 4 years gets you '08.

G3T5VM

47 is also privilant.

APPARENTLY (never watched it personally) Alias has the number 47 in it somewhere in every single episode!

and...ta da - there are 47 survivors


also

Oceanic flight #815
kates locker thing was number #815

numbers its all about the numbers......

I should have listened when my math teachers told me that I would need this math stuff one day.....

Roswell happened in '47
The earliest reporting of a crop circle happened in 815 a.d.

pure coincidence?

The poster on Lost-Media.com clearly shows that it says Occupational Therapists Month 2000, in the scene with Michael in the wheelchair...it's mentioned that Walt is almost 2 years old at this time...since he's 10 y.o. in the show's present-time that would make it 2008 (not 2004).

So if it is 2008, what would be the significance of this if any?*

I find it hard to believe that the show's creators just felt like setting the show 4 years in the future unless it meant something...or is that their way dropping another "4" clue to the viewers?


I asked Fury (the writer of the Special episode) this very question yesterday in the ask the VIP section. Crossing fingers that he'll answer. I also found it very interesting. BTW, OT month is April. This could also be a clue as to when Walt was born. April, 1998? Wondering what significance there might be to that.

I just assumed the 2000 thing was a flub-up. Then again, the producers know we look at everything, so...

They have mentioned a few things, the Patriot Act for one, which led me to believe it was in fact 2004. Since a big chunk of the Patriot Act has already been invalidated by the Supreme Court, I doubt people would be mentioning it much four years from now. Okay, maybe now I'm getting a little too detailed. ..

I just assumed the 2000 thing was a flub-up.* Then again, the producers know we look at everything, so...

They have mentioned a few things, the Patriot Act for one, which led me to believe it was in fact 2004.* Since a big chunk of the Patriot Act has already been invalidated by the Supreme Court, I doubt people would be mentioning it much four years from now.* Okay, maybe now I'm getting a little too detailed. ..


good point

L8r,
WharffRat :chris:

I asked Fury (the writer of the Special episode) this very question yesterday in the ask the VIP section. Crossing fingers that he'll answer. I also found it very interesting. BTW, OT month is April. This could also be a clue as to when Walt was born. April, 1998? Wondering what significance there might be to that.

April, you say? Hmmm....you mean the 4th month of the calendar year ;) If OT month is truly April (btw, may I ask how you know that), than the poster was definitely not a prop flub. :)

So is it possible that the plane crash hasn't happened yet and this is Walt's first full vision? These are the people that are waiting in the airport around him and he is seeing their past and what the future will be if the plane crashes? Locke, for some reason, knows that Walt is the only one who can change their destiny by fulling believing in his powers? It's kind of mind twisting and you have too let go of the present and think of it as the future and the 4 years ago is now...Oh I'm so confused.

No, I think the show is just set 4 years in the future; now, for what reason is the puzzle. ;)

I don't think there is much to the 2000 poster. Every work enviroment I've ever been in always had some expired calendar or poster of a seminar or conference that was at least a few years old hanging somewhere.

Anyone out there with the patience to go through the Lost-Media.com website screen captures for previous episodes? Anyone? :)

I believe that in Walkabout and Whatever the Case May Be, that there are posters put up with the same tape in the Special episode; if my recollection is accurate, then that is too much a of coincidence. Hopefully, Fury will answer the question someone posted about it's significance.

I don't think there is much to the 2000 poster. Every work enviroment I've ever been in always had some expired calendar or poster of a seminar or conference that was at least a few years old hanging somewhere.


The thing is that if Walt is 10 years old in 2004 that would mean he was born in 1994. Micheal said that Walt was going to be 2 years old when he was in the hospital, so that would mean it would have to be 1996. The poster wasnt an expired poster but a 4 years in advance poster.

So if the poster is correct and it is the year 2000 and Walt was going to be 2, then he would have been born in 1998 and if he is 10 on the island the year would have to be 2008.

Is that right? I dont know anymore, Im so confused.

There were a couple of other numbers dropped that are significant.
Kates mug shot number and the number 125300 on the transciever (see another one of my wild theories thread). So the change of date is probably to Walts birthday to be on a certain year or just to make the current year 2008 for some reason.

To Omegamann

The interation count was actually 17,294,533; the one that Sayid based his calculations on to get to 16 years and 5 months (give or take a few days). The distress signal is approx. 30 seconds long, so if you do the math yourself, you will see that the iteration count had to be 17,294,533.

The poster on Lost-Media.com clearly shows that it says Occupational Therapists Month 2000, in the scene with Michael in the wheelchair...it's mentioned that Walt is almost 2 years old at this time...since he's 10 y.o. in the show's present-time that would make it 2008 (not 2004).

So if it is 2008, what would be the significance of this if any?*

I find it hard to believe that the show's creators just felt like setting the show 4 years in the future unless it meant something...or is that their way dropping another "4" clue to the viewers?


So that would change when we believe Danielle to have started her distress call from 1988 to 1992 still 16 years only a different start time.. Any information that we had using 2004 as the base would need to be altered. I wonder what that tells us

heyy im new and i absolutly looooove lost and wat im writing to say is that lost is four letters too JJ reeeeally likes 4 :lol2:

125300! I am not talking about the distress signal counter. I am talking about the transciever when they found it. The script says that the transciever showed 125300! Do a search on google and look at result number 6! It has to do with stem cell research. 125300 is the section number in California law that is about the laws concerning stem cell research.

The 2008 theory is a good one but there is one fatal flaw. Sawyer's envelope with the letter has a bicentennial stamp. Didn't Sawyer mention he was about seven when he mailed it. That would make him 39 now. It seems a little old for him. Also didn't Jack's dad mention in Jack's flashback that he liked watchin the Carol Burnett show. Wasn't that show late 70's and Jack seemed to be about 10-12 at that time. If it was 2008, Jack would be 40 or over. Not possible. Having said that, the 2008 theory is butressed by the following: (1) What is a haliburton case? No one one on the boards seems to know. Perhaps because it has not been invented yet. You ever heard of Driveshaft. well neither have I. Since maybe they did not become a popular music band until after 2004.

The 2008 theory is a good one but there is one fatal flaw. Sawyer's envelope with the letter has a bicentennial stamp. Didn't Sawyer mention he was about seven when he mailed it. That would make him 39 now. It seems a little old for him. Also didn't Jack's dad mention in Jack's flashback that he liked watchin the Carol Burnett show. Wasn't that show late 70's and Jack seemed to be about 10-12 at that time. If it was 2008, Jack would be 40 or over. Not possible. Having said that, the 2008 theory is butressed by the following: (1) What is a haliburton case? No one one on the boards seems to know. Perhaps because it has not been invented yet. You ever heard of Driveshaft. well neither have I. Since maybe they did not become a popular music band until after 2004.

To respond to your points:

1) Sawyer's age at 39:* All I know for sure is that the actor is 35/36 (depending on his month/day of birth), so 39 is not impossible to believe
2) Jack, or should I say Matthew Fox is 39, so Jack being 40 is realistic
3) A Zero Halliburton attaches are made of very strong aluminium and generally utilized by photographers, engineers, etc (those with special equipment to carry)
4) I assume that Driveshaft is an invention of the writer's minds.
:)

The thing is that if Walt is 10 years old in 2004 that would mean he was born in 1994.* Micheal said that Walt was going to be 2 years old when he was in the hospital, so that would mean it would have to be 1996.* The poster wasnt an expired poster but a 4 years in advance poster.




In an episode of that 70's show, the kids go to Marquette, where posters are abound of the Marquette Golden Eagles. Problem is, they were the Warriors up until the 90s.

Everyone... deep breaths... I challenge any of you to go to any public place and not see a single poster/sign out of date. It's not even an oversight... I have a 1996 Atlanta poster in my bedroom. Deep breaths.

In an episode of that 70's show, the kids go to Marquette, where posters are abound of the Marquette Golden Eagles. Problem is, they were the Warriors up until the 90s.

Everyone... deep breaths... I challenge any of you to go to any public place and not see a single poster/sign out of date. It's not even an oversight... I have a 1996 Atlanta poster in my bedroom. Deep breaths.

To Fast Eddie,

I am confused re: the point you are trying to make.

If the show is set in 2004, then the scene where Michael is in the wheelchair and speaking of Walt's upcoming 2nd birthday would have to be 1996, which would be FOUR (4) years prior to year 2000 (the date on the poster); how many posters have you seen that are 4 years in advance of the event they are promoting? That is why I feel, if this is not a prop flub, that the show is actually set in the year 2008 versus 2004.

Deep breaths ;)

The 2008 theory is a good one but there is one fatal flaw. Sawyer's envelope with the letter has a bicentennial stamp. Didn't Sawyer mention he was about seven when he mailed it. That would make him 39 now. It seems a little old for him. Also didn't Jack's dad mention in Jack's flashback that he liked watchin the Carol Burnett show. Wasn't that show late 70's and Jack seemed to be about 10-12 at that time. If it was 2008, Jack would be 40 or over. Not possible. Having said that, the 2008 theory is butressed by the following: (1) What is a haliburton case? No one one on the boards seems to know. Perhaps because it has not been invented yet. You ever heard of Driveshaft. well neither have I. Since maybe they did not become a popular music band until after 2004.


As someone with a daughter who will be 35 this year, I'm here to say that 39 is NOT old* ( LOL) and , IMHO, given the lines on his face, 39 is a more believable age for Sawyer than 35 would be.

The Carol Burnett Show ran from 1967 to 1978.* Jack could also easily be 40 years old. Looks and acts more like a 40 yr old than a 36 year old.

I'm still down with the idea od this being 2008. I DO think the poster is key.

I only see 2 possibilities for the poster.
1. The episode was shot in an actual Clinic and the poster was already there and the props Dept. goofed in not taking it down.
or
2. The props department put it there themselves, very deliberately.

arguments against 1 :
1. The way it's fastened to the cabinet vs the way other wall posters/papers in the room are fastened.
* * a. It's the only one that is fastened with what looks like black electrician tape.
* * b. Nurses usually have white paper surgical tape in their pockets, or quick and easy asscess to it. Not so with black electrician's tape.
* *c. The bottom of the poster doesn't seem fastened at all.* After 4 years, don't you think that would have been a problem for it's longevity?
* *d. Every April is Occupational Therapy month. (just do a google) I imagine an OT clinic would get a new promotional poster every year. Why wouldn't they have a more recent one up instead?
* e. The poster is in remarkably good condition for having hung there for 4 years.

let's keep in mind that this picture is one of the few that the creators chose to use in the episodes promotion.* I think they like to throw clues at us (and I thank them for that.. I LOVE solving mysteries).. so many number clues in LOST.. why 7 candles on Michaels' drawing of a birthday cake he made for walt's 2nd birthday? Why have the safe deposit box be the same number as the doomed flight?* Why have Sayhid spend all those brain muscles to calculate that Danielle's transmission has been playing for 16 years??

Did Danielle's plane crash in 1992 or 1996? Would the year her plane crashed be significant?
So many questions, so few answers.;)

Some more arguments that it is not 2008. Hey it could be (the poster sure seems deliberate)but I am not totally convinced yet.

1. Michael was using a pay phone before his accident. By year 2000 who was using pay phones. When watching the scene (before even being clued in as to the 2008) I thought the pay phone was a purposeful propt to try to recreate a scene from the mid 90's.

2. if Carol Burnett was 1967-1978, we have to assume that the scene with Jack's dad was in 1978 just to put Jack at 42 (i.e, he looked 12 at the time). If let's say it was during the middle of Burnett's hey day 1973-jack would be 45. He may be 39 in real life but it looks like he is playing a younger character in his mid 30's much like he played a younger character in party of five (i.e, mid 20's). Jack has been portrayed as the young doctor who is trying to work himslef up while living in the shadow of his father. Doctors in their 40's are usually more establsihed and sure of themselves.

3. The whole Sayaid Republican Guard thing. The fearful reaction Sayaid got from the other surviviors specifically Sawyer would seem more appropriate during 2004 when the US was at war with Iraq not in 2008 (although it is possible the US may still be fighting with Iraq at that time). Also didn't Hurley mention he had a good friend that fought in the Gulf war. If it is 2008 that friend would have to be at least 35 by now. even if his friend was 18 when he fought, Hurley who seems to be in his mid 20's would have only been 8 or 9 at the time.

4. If Shannon was living with a french guy and the French guys son was watching Finding Nemo which was popular on video in 2002 , 2003, that would have made Shannon jail bate. She is like 22 on the show.

Notwithstanding, I do think it would be very interesting and logical to set the show in 2008. First, every character apparently has a connection four years ago which is the present to the viewing audience, It presents an interesting dynamic to the show. Second, the writers may have a four year plan for the show. They keep each season 40 days so by the time season four comes around, the audience is caught up to 2008. And that is where they end the show in the present. if the show takes place in 2004 and they keep each season at 40 days, the characters will be stuck in 2004 /2005 even though the audience is in 2008. It may make the show difficult to produce especially if they finally get off the Island.

So in conclusion, there are some good points either way.

Love the idea. Didn't see the calendar. I have a BIG TV and I didn't see a calendar. I went throught the scence frame by frame. There was nothing that I could see clearly enough to be a calendar or read year and month on. Where exactly is it supposed to be?

numbers its all about the numbers......


"NUMBERS"-HURLEY'S EPISODE!

I dunno...what you said reminded me of that...

The 2008 theory is a good one but there is one fatal flaw. Sawyer's envelope with the letter has a bicentennial stamp. Didn't Sawyer mention he was about seven when he mailed it. That would make him 39 now. It seems a little old for him. Also didn't Jack's dad mention in Jack's flashback that he liked watchin the Carol Burnett show. Wasn't that show late 70's and Jack seemed to be about 10-12 at that time. If it was 2008, Jack would be 40 or over. Not possible. Having said that, the 2008 theory is butressed by the following: (1) What is a haliburton case? No one one on the boards seems to know. Perhaps because it has not been invented yet. You ever heard of Driveshaft. well neither have I. Since maybe they did not become a popular music band until after 2004.


Do a search on Halliburton - you'll find extensive information on it in the Whatever the Case May Be Forum.

The poster on Lost-Media.com clearly shows that it says Occupational Therapists Month 2000, in the scene with Michael in the wheelchair...it's mentioned that Walt is almost 2 years old at this time...since he's 10 y.o. in the show's present-time that would make it 2008 (not 2004).

So if it is 2008, what would be the significance of this if any?*

I find it hard to believe that the show's creators just felt like setting the show 4 years in the future unless it meant something...or is that their way dropping another "4" clue to the viewers?


I've gone to Lost-Media.com and I can't find the screen capture with the poster. Can you help?

Thanks

poster picture from Special promo section. (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=22880&fullsize=1/) The frame wasn't seen in the episode. The clearest shot of the poster in the episode had the year blocked by Michael's shoulder when the nurse was walking away. When Susan was in the scene the poster was both very out of focus and blocked by Michael's head.

Has anybody taped the promos to see if it actually appeared in them or is it like the pics of Boone, Shannon and Bryan sitting leisurely at a table chatting, or the one of him touching her hair while she was reading the Oprah magazine?

poster picture from Special promo section. (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=22880&fullsize=1/) The frame wasn't seen in the episode. The clearest shot of the poster in the episode had the year blocked by Michael's shoulder when the nurse was walking away. When Susan was in the scene the poster was both very out of focus and blocked by Michael's head.

Has anybody taped the promos to see if it actually appeared in them or is it like the pics of Boone, Shannon and Bryan sitting leisurely at a table chatting, or the one of him touching her hair while she was reading the Oprah magazine?


OK, found it. Obviously, this shot is not something that was to be used in the episode. When I watched the episode again that poster was the only one I could think was what we had been talking about. But it is there.
It doesn't look like they did a screen capture for that part of the scene. You would never be able to read it on TV.

The electrical tape makes me think someone thought they were doing something funny. Oh those wacky gaffers. But who knows. Why would they just happen to have that poster around. The prop department wouldn't go out of it's way to get a 4 year old poster unless they needed it at some point. Hum........

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=22&pos=24

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=22&pos=20

Here's another episode, Walkabout, with a poster put up with electrical tape.* I can't see a date on it, but this is too coincidental to be flub as well.* These posters are either clues or inside jokes with the creators.

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=22&pos=24

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=22&pos=20

Here's another episode, Walkabout, with a poster put up with electrical tape.* I can't see a date on it, but this is too coincidental to be flub as well.* These posters are either clues or inside jokes with the creators.


I's a map in the Tour office. On another filing cabinet. What is interesting is that there is a large model plane sitting on top of the filing cabinet.

It's definitely a map, but the thing that I find interesting is that it, like the poster in "Special", is tacked up with electrical tape.

It's definitely a map, but the thing that I find interesting is that it, like the poster in "Special", is tacked up with electrical tape.*


I agree, it is interesting. The screen captures are great. I'm starting to look through the ones that are just the flash backs who knows what will show up. The psychic that Claire went to may have some promise.

"numbers its all about the numbers......"



Maybe some of these number coincidences will be revealed in the upcoming episode "Numbers"

"numbers its all about the numbers......"



Maybe some of these number coincidences will be revealed in the upcoming episode "Numbers"


Looking through the screen captures and promotion stills I came across a few things. in "Raised by Another" Claire is holding a pamphlet for Gannon Car Rentals with a picture of the Golden gate bridge on it. It's in the scene when the psychic gave her the airline tickets.

I also ran across Claire hanging the draperies she made and that made me think if Kate when Jack asked if she could sew, in the pilot episode and she said she had sewn her drapes. Silly, but still why the connection?

The marshall that died was married and had a very expensive watch on.
Jack's fathers medical records, at ther coroners, number was A7184.

There were 3 globes at the psychic's and one at the tour guide's.

Lost_in_Louisana wrote:

In the "Special" episode, Michael is talking on a payphone about 8 years ago. In the background is a subway station with the letters N, R and W.

Only problem is, the yellow W line did not exist at that point. It was not used until 2001!

Now, of course, that was just a small background symbol and perhaps it's nothing but an oversight, but it does lend credence to the theory floating around that this series is set several years in the future....


More confirmation??????

This screencap of Kate at the farm in Australia shows homemade canned pears dated 2003. This is not inconsistent with present time being 2004, as the pears would have been packed when in season the previous year.

http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season1/1x03-tabularasa/tabularasa213.jpg

This is a re-post.* I also posted it in another thread.* Evidence for the year 2008?
Just thought this might add a little something to the discussion.* I am posting here a screen capture from Raised by Another.* As you see, it shows Claire's apartment when she first learned she was pregnant.* There is a poster on the wall for the Brisbane Broncos, which I Googled.* That very poster is on e-Bay.* When blown up, it reads that it commemorates the years 1992-2000.* What shall we make of this?

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=66&pos=18

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39916&item=5159800313&rd=1

This screencap of Kate at the farm in Australia shows homemade canned pears dated 2003. This is not inconsistent with present time being 2004, as the pears would have been packed when in season the previous year.

When did the farmer's wife die? How many years did he say?

There are too many instances of possible dated things to be coincidence, aren't there? Maybe it's not 2008 but time almost certainly has something to do with it, it seems.

Ok, now we have "The French Lady" giving us a date of 8/15/1988.

Is she real or not? Is she in the know?* If the poster is right and it is 2008. I think she's a poetic fake. Any ideas?http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=6816.0

One other thing if she was a VIP wouldn't she be posting in color? Well, that's if they wanted us to know she was officially attached to the site.

how many posters have you seen that are 4 years in advance of the event they are promoting?*

quite many of them actually
I don't know for the specific event this poster was promoting, but for other events they would definitely have posters up to 4 or 8 years or more years in advance

Olympic Games for instance, wether it is advertising posters, or "running for candidate" posters, they all would be very much in advance

the year 2000 was also a symbolic year, everyone was talking about that year. A convention marking the turn of the Century could have been advertised well in advance

@SamGrant
assuming that 8-15-88 or 8/15/88 is a date would probably be a false assumption
The US are one of the only countries where we use the mm/dd/YYYY date format
other countries would use dd/mm/yyyy date format. as far as Australia is concerned 8/15/1988 is a date that would not exist since there is no 15th month in the calendar
The writers have put a lot of foreign references in the show, i doubt they would get stuck with something like that
if for Americans 8-15 means something, and hints for a date, in the vast majority of countries it would mean nothing (as a date)
The assumption of 8-15 being a date would assume that the show was solely intended for US domestic market, which I highly doubt

To put it in perspective, I have an "New York Olympics: 2012" pledge poster. Many things come out more than four years in advance.

According to Javi, it is the current year:

http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=4765.0

As for the "French Lady" livejournal, I think it's just created by a fan--probably similar to the driveshaft web-site. You never know, but I wouldn't take it too seriously until we get some kind of confirmation from a VIP on here.

I should have listened when my math teachers told me that I would need this math stuff one day.....


:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Out of the Archeives. What's with the x-ray in "The Hunting Party?
http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=887&pos=29

About Walt age, things are somewhat confusing. Michael makes a drowing for Walt, showing him, Michael, in the Hospital with a cake on his lap. the cake has 5 candles,but Walt was supposed to be only 2. Any comments?

About Walt age, things are somewhat confusing. Michael makes a drowing for Walt, showing him, Michael, in the Hospital with a cake on his lap. the cake has 5 candles,but Walt was supposed to be only 2. Any comments?

Yes, bizarre, http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=172&pos=347 Seven candles

The xray is the newest 'wtf' regarding dates...I want to know when the 'drunken surgery' incident occured in relation to this Italian guy.

1. Michael was using a pay phone before his accident. By year 2000 who was using pay phones. When watching the scene (before even being clued in as to the 2008) I thought the pay phone was a purposeful propt to try to recreate a scene from the mid 90's.


This is from way back, but I wanted to respond.

There are still payphones all over the place in my town, and probably other towns.

I think his point was that nearly everyone had cell phones.

Out of the Archeives. What's with the x-ray in "The Hunting Party?
http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=887&pos=29

I think it is written in military style, day month year

25 08 04 August 25th, 2004

Also, if the x-ray is from Italy it would be written that way.

ETA This is absolutely wrong, btw. I realize you are talking about the 16 Nov 2005 and not the numbers I was looking at. Haven't eaten all day. Sorry.

I lived in New York as of 1999, and phone booths were available and still working as of then. It's not that improbable.

Remember the episode from Season 1 entitled "Outlaws." Sawyer met Jack's dad in a bar in Sydney. He used the phrase, "that's why the Red Sox will never win the World Series." But, they did win right about the same time as the premire of Lost. Many people have speculated that JJ'n Friends used this phrase to date the crash in our time.

Javi said:
....i do know they didn't crash after september 2004!

Reference: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=30185

BUT...Might some period of time passed between the time the plane broke apart and fell to the island and the time the Losties "awoke" and found the plane's (staged) exploding and burning? Might they have been in some kind of suspended animation for as long as 4 years? This would allow for the "crash" to have ocurred on or before September 2004 (as Javi said) and still could make the current LOST year be 2008. By the time the series ends, our "real" time will have caught up to their island time..

Which brings up another question: Who/what could have put them into suspended animation? For what reason? What was done to them during this period of time? Why were they awakened? To be watched? (Think transhumanism and/or posthumanism)

Yes, bizarre, http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=172&pos=347 Seven candles
this is a picture of the other person in Michaels hospital room. There had been a picture on this persons wall of 2 kids that has disappeared from Lost Media
So where have we seen 2 kids? on the other end of the island, at Kates motel, on the OZ cops mug, on Tom's fridge

Remember the episode from Season 1 entitled "Outlaws." Sawyer met Jack's dad in a bar in Sydney. He used the phrase, "that's why the Red Sox will never win the World Series." But, they did win right about the same time as the premire of Lost. Many people have speculated that JJ'n Friends used this phrase to date the crash in our time.

Sawyer saying The Red Sox will never win may refer to the fact they were down 3-0 in the ALCS no team has ever comeback from 3-0. So at that point it would seem they would never get to the WS to win it.

Javi said:
....i do know they didn't crash after september 2004!

Reference: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=30185

BUT...Might some period of time passed between the time the plane broke apart and fell to the island and the time the Losties "awoke" and found the plane's (staged) exploding and burning? Might they have been in some kind of suspended animation for as long as 4 years? This would allow for the "crash" to have ocurred on or before September 2004 (as Javi said) and still could make the current LOST year be 2008. By the time the series ends, our "real" time will have caught up to their island time..

Which brings up another question: Who/what could have put them into suspended animation? For what reason? What was done to them during this period of time? Why were they awakened? To be watched? (Think transhumanism and/or posthumanism)and Damon supposedly said this:
Damon Lindelof said something on a DVD that comes with the fanclub stuff. On the Lost Transmission podcast, a caller played an audio clip from the DVD in which Lindelof addresses the use of music on the show. The clip begins with him commenting on Hurley and the discman and how that was the only comtemporary music used on the show and when the batteries "the needle drops", i.e. we don't hear contemporary music again. But what he says after this is particularly interesting. I transcribed some of it below:

"...[we] couldn't play music on the show that came out after Sept. 22, 2004, which is when the show premeired because [the Lostaways] wouldn't have it with them when they got on the plane. We often in the writers room try to say 'They're really only in Oct. 2004 right now'--at least in their own perspective. Who knows where or when they are for, uh-ah, our own purposes, but for their purposes, the idea that they're sort of, they don't know who won the [Kerry/Bush] election, like, that hasn't happened yet for them. So I guess they are are around Halloween of 2004 by their clock." ????

and Damon supposedly said this:
[spoiler] ...at least in their own perspective. Who knows where or when they are for, uh-ah, our own purposes... [spoiler]

Wow! Surely does appear that TPTB could be messing around with the timeline. Maybe it's not 2004 after all as we've been led to believe. 2008 could be a real possibility.

My guess is that if the show runs four years, the final show will be in the same year as real world time.As long as people are watching and giving the writers ideas, the show will last and in the end everyone will be happy. If the show doesn't last four years, the show can be ended with an explosion or something that most people on these sites already expect.

I was rewatching Tabula Rosa and Inside the farmers pantry are jars of peaches and tey are labelled by year, the newest ones i saw were from 04' i dont know, ive been rewatching eppies ill let u know if i c anything else

I was rewatching Tabula Rosa and Inside the farmers pantry are jars of peaches and tey are labelled by year, the newest ones i saw were from 04' i dont know, ive been rewatching eppies ill let u know if i c anything elseOne row is marked 2004 and the other is 2003. The growing seasons are reversed in Australia and peaches and pears are ripe in, if I remember right January - April. We looked this up the first season and I think that's right.

All this 2004.....2008 stuff reminded me of:

When Kate kissed Sawyer and he said "I made that birthday wish 4 years ago."

Sam,
I can't help but think you are seriously onto something here with Walt. (By the way I think Walt's birthday was Aug 24th, remember one episode Michael told him this as a way to prove he knew at least something about his own son?)
I remember watching the episode where Walt touches Locke and keeps telling him "Don't open it!" I think, referring to the hatch. Must go back and see in all flashbacks how many of the main characters Walt comes into contact with before the plane takes off. But how lame would that be if at the very end it turns out to be one big vision? Unless he can't stop it and they all still get on the plane.....

(sorry this is in reference to a much earlier post)

For a while I thought that maybe the show was set in another year, but now I'm pretty confident it's set in 2004. The reason being that towards the start of the show (I think when Hurley was doing his census) Shannon said that she was 20. There are a few times where it's mentioned that Boone is two years older than Shannon, and in his flashback episode there's a shot of his driving license (or some other form of ID) and his birthdate is shown as 1981, meaning that in 2004 he would be 22/23, which fits with the difference in age between him and Shannon.

I asked Fury (the writer of the Special episode) this very question yesterday in the ask the VIP section. Crossing fingers that he'll answer. I also found it very interesting. BTW, OT month is April. This could also be a clue as to when Walt was born. April, 1998? Wondering what significance there might be to that. i don't know if someone else already said this but April is the fourth month. i bet he was born 4/8/?? August 15th is a date that pops up a lot as well (8/15...)

The 2008 theory Having said that, the 2008 theory is butressed by the following: (1) What is a haliburton case? No one one on the boards seems to know. Perhaps because it has not been invented yet. You ever heard of Driveshaft. well neither have I. Since maybe they did not become a popular music band until after 2004.

i believe that haliburton is the company that makes products for war (george bush has investments in this company- some people think that's shady) it would make sense that they also make really strong,bullet-proof cases for u.s marshalls.

i believe that haliburton is the company that makes products for war (george bush has investments in this company- some people think that's shady) it would make sense that they also make really strong,bullet-proof cases for u.s marshalls.I can see some of you a new to the Fuselage and these discussions have been going on since the 1st season, things are bound to be repeated (many times) that's ok because so much has happened, it's good to go back and refresh ourselves on these things.

If you haven't used the "Search" feature yet, I suggest using it and dropping down to the "Advanced Search" for an example put in Halliburton, then go down and select 6 months and older, then select posts. You will then see a list of where the Halliburton case has been mentioned (Probably a long list)

http://www.zerohalliburton.com/ the company is called zero halliburton

Lost-Media.com has pointed out that on the recent Hunting Party episode, the X-Ray that Jack is looking at is dated 2005. It is sooo hard to find you would have to do a screen shot and examine it. But of course, this is what some of you nutty folks do! Could this just be a prop error or is it another clue that what we are watching on the "island" hasn't happened yet - what do you think?

Lost-Media.com has pointed out that on the recent Hunting Party episode, the X-Ray that Jack is looking at is dated 2005. It is sooo hard to find you would have to do a screen shot and examine it. But of course, this is what some of you nutty folks do! Could this just be a prop error or is it another clue that what we are watching on the "island" hasn't happened yet - what do you think?
Javi has confirmed that it is a prop error.

wEIRD

sam g- i am aware of the search feature, but if u read a couple of posts up from mind someone said that nobody seems to know what a halibuton case is- so it sounded as if that person had done the search already and didn't come up w/ an answer (although i was surprised that nobody on this forum knew anything at all about haliburton)- so that's why i gave him/her that little tidbit. but thanks for the tip anyway, i understand that the same information does come up alot ;)

Do any of these time switches now fall into place?

Roswell happened in '47
The earliest reporting of a crop circle happened in 815 a.d.

pure coincidence?


Yes it is.

The main narrative of the show is set in the latter part of 2004. Some of the most obvious indications of this include the number entry logs that Locke and Eko found in the Pearl station, in which Desmond found the date on which he caused the plane to crash, and the fact that Ben proved to Jack that they had contact with the outside world by telling him that since the crash George W. Bush had been reelected and the Red Sox had won the World Series.