so it seems like no one wants off the island. they all have a better deal on the island than off. do you think that this will be resolved? do you think the losties will just continue to build their own society? and if they do will we get a 'Lord of the Flies' type deal between them and the others?

It seems to me that a lot of them have a much better life on the island than back home (Locke being able to walk, Kate not being hunted by the police, Jin escapes from Mr. Paik, Rose is cured, etc etc). If I were them, I'd just build up my own little society right there on the island!

Very good point Chrono, i think the building of the church sybolizes the beginning of this colonization.

It seems to me that a lot of them have a much better life on the island than back home (Locke being able to walk, Kate not being hunted by the police, Jin escapes from Mr. Paik, Rose is cured, etc etc). If I were them, I'd just build up my own little society right there on the island!

good point , i think that too ...actually i'm sure that Rose doesn't want to come back .
it's like they had another chance ...who doesn't want a second chance in life to restart everything from zero ?

It seems to me that a lot of them have a much better life on the island than back home (Locke being able to walk, Kate not being hunted by the police, Jin escapes from Mr. Paik, Rose is cured, etc etc). If I were them, I'd just build up my own little society right there on the island!

Except if they run into Smokey the Monster or Zeke and his gang.

Except if they run into Smokey the Monster or Zeke and his gang.

Well, when you think about it, every place has it's own dangers. For a civilization to be successful anywhere it has to learn to adapt to the dangers inherent to it's geographical location. Rome wasn't built in a day...:biggrin:

Two problems with this theory.

One, Mike wants off the island. It will be one thing to get Walt back. Quite another to keep him. The others have resources we don't even know about yet. Even if our Losties do rescue him, they will have to lock him up in the hatch just to keep Walt safe.

Two, just because people don't want to work on a SOS sign doesn't mean people don't want to be rescued. There is ALOT of very hard work involved in making this sign. Work made more difficult without the use of modern tools. Would you want to hand carry large rocks 1/2 mile everyday? Also, the location of the sign is bad. Being on the beach, the Losties would have to maintain it almost everyday due to tidal changes, bad weather, etc. It is better located in a clearing away from the beach. I suspect that most of our Losties think that the only planes and satellites checking on the island are probably owned by Dharma. And it is in Dharma's best interest not to come to the Losties rescue.

I think that's what the Island has "wanted" all along--for our Lostaways to try to create a new society. So the scientists can watch how it grows, how they all get along, and if it does turn into a "Lord of the Flies" situation.

One, Mike wants off the island. It will be one thing to get Walt back. Quite another to keep him. The others have resources we don't even know about yet. Even if our Losties do rescue him, they will have to lock him up in the hatch just to keep Walt safe.

Do you remember the raft scene after Michael found out that Walt had burned it? I do believe that Michael now realizes that Walt is really digging the island and it feels like "home" to him. But you're right... after having been kidnapped by the Others... he might not be so crazy about staying :rolleyes:

Well, when you think about it, every place has it's own dangers. For a civilization to be successful anywhere it has to learn to adapt to the dangers inherent to it's geographical location. Rome wasn't built in a day...:biggrin:

No you di-ent:)

The only thing I'd miss on the island is indoor plumbing, I guess.

It seems to me that a lot of them have a much better life on the island than back home (Locke being able to walk, Kate not being hunted by the police, Jin escapes from Mr. Paik, Rose is cured, etc etc). If I were them, I'd just build up my own little society right there on the island!

I don't understand why the other losties - not mentioned above - would not want to get off the island..?! Maybe they are becoming like the writers and just draging this out as long as possible for the commercials? They are not acting like real people. I am a lic. Coast Guard Capt. and this just does not make a whole lot of sence. At least Gilliagan tried. ;-)

I've gone through every character & cant find one who truely has anything to go home to.
(except maybe Sayid - who's dream was to find Nadia)

Will we not see the outside world, in present time, until they are rescued?

Everybody would want access to modern medical care. At least for your children, if not for yourself. (Movie spoiler ahead.)

(As you'll recall, this need was what finally broached the quarantine in "The Village.")

But if the island DOES heal anything short of a wound or disease that would be fatal anywhere--if it heals impacted wisdom teeth, inflamed gall bladder, placenta previa, runaway infections--then that argument doesn't apply. I think, however, that cures are selective.

One, Mike wants off the island. It will be one thing to get Walt back. Quite another to keep him. The others have resources we don't even know about yet. Even if our Losties do rescue him, they will have to lock him up in the hatch just to keep Walt safe.
The thing is that Michael should wake up to the opportunities the island has given him. On the outside world, Michael and Walt would not have an opportunity for happiness. Remember his life? Work all the time. He even tried to pawn Walt off on his mom. Michael did not want the responsibility of his son, and Walt would not have a good relationship (if any) with his dad.

The island has given Michael and Walt the same opportunity it's given Claire and Aaron. The opportunity to be together and bond with each other without the interference of trying to survive in a materialistic world. This simple life has allowed them both to keep and enjoy their kids.

Two, just because people don't want to work on a SOS sign doesn't mean people don't want to be rescued.
If there are people who want to be rescued - and I stress the word if - then it's their responsibility to do something about it. Let Joe Schmoe Redshirt build the sign on his own time in the background if he wants off the island so badly.

I think it was said several times in S1 that everyone gets a new life on the island. And the people we know (main cast) seem to want to stay, if only those darn others and smoke monsters and pouring rain would go away....I agree that once Michael realized Walt was getting comfortable, he was inclined to stay, but then Walt told him they had to go...

I think this all ends with them floating in the ocean after the get dumped out of this 'extra dimensional' place the the island is in somewhere between dark and light energy.