So Rose and Bernard knew each other 5 months before getting engaged. Then due to her illness....quick wedding. Maybe 5 more months tops. Then their trip to Austrailia for their honeymoon. Then the two months on the island. One year....maybe.

When did Rose and Bernard do all the traveling? Remember when Rose said she had to hold on to Bernards rings when they flew because his hands swelled so bad. It sure seemd like they traveled a gread deal. At least had flown more than the one time to Austrailia and then the attempt home.

Can anyone explain?

One plane trip is enough to find out that your fingers swell and Bernard may have been on airplanes before Rose to know that his fingers swells so..
A.) Bernard knows his fingers swell so asks Rose to hold on to his rings on the way to Australia and back..
B.) They both went on at least one trip before their honeymoon which equals 2 airplane trips which is enough to know that your fingers swell..

Bernard probably knew in his 56 years on the planet that his fingers swelled when he flew. It would only take one flight with Rose (to Australia) for her to realize this about him, and offer to hold his rings on the fated Oceanic flight leaving Australia.

Just speculating. They seem like kindred spirits. If they flew jsut once in the past she owuld know the thing about his fingers.

Were they at Niagra falls when he proposed?

Maybe they flew there...

Just speculation.

She sure made it seem like they flew alot. Not just once or maaybe twice.

Just speculating. They seem like kindred spirits. If they flew jsut once in the past she owuld know the thing about his fingers.

Were they at Niagra falls when he proposed?

Maybe they flew there...

Just speculation.

I'm pretty sure that was Niagara. The view didn't exactly match up with the restaurant though.

She sure made it seem like they flew alot. Not just once or maaybe twice.

I think you are making an assumption based on not much info. They had an entire flight to Australia and like another poster said, Bernard had his whole life to fly before he met Rose to know his fingers swelled. What exactly are you basing this on? Just the fact that she said it to Jack on the plane? Or is there something else?

It was definitely niagra falls where they were at.

Another explanation is that they had not fleshed out Bernard and Rose when they scripted the previous scene--and now it is much more defined. So the writers, at the time of the "finger-swelling" statement, had written Bernard and Rose to have been together for a long period of time, and now when they developed their backstory, they changed it.

They definitely could have flown to Niagra...does anyone know where they lived when they first met?

It did seem a little like an inconsistancy though...perhaps etienne is right with the story not being fully developed at the time.

It's just hard to tell the difference in a show with so many clues!

They definitely could have flown to Niagra...does anyone know where they lived when they first met?

It did seem a little like an inconsistancy though...perhaps etienne is right with the story not being fully developed at the time.

It's just hard to tell the difference in a show with so many clues!
Her tag on her car was a NY state tag.

Hmmm...well that makes it interesting. They probably didn't fly then.

Unless that particular honeymoon trip to Australia was not the trip that took them on flight 815 then I guess I have to go with minor goof by TPTB.

The Bronx probably, thats where Rose said she was from

Hmmm...well that makes it interesting. They probably didn't fly then.

Unless that particular honeymoon trip to Australia was not the trip that took them on flight 815 then I guess I have to go with minor goof by TPTB.

They don't make mistakes!! ;)

They've probably flown a lot since they've been together. Retired people traveling... he did have $10,000 to blow.

Having flown to Australia from NY, I can honestly say that it isn't just one straight flight there. NY to LA, LA to New Zealand, New Zealand to Melbourne. Seeing how they had to fly out to Ayers Rock where the healer lived, that would constitute enough flying in just one trip to realize that Bernard's fingers swelled! Just my thoughts.

You don't have to go via New Zealand. In fact, I'm struggling to think of a reason why anyone would...

I'm pretty sure that was Niagara. The view didn't exactly match up with the restaurant though.

That's because they didn't film at Niagra Falls. It was a green screen.

I'm pretty sure that was Niagara. The view didn't exactly match up with the restaurant though.

There seemed to be more than one view of the falls shown out of the restaurant window (different angles/distances which struck me as odd), but the main angle seemed to be from the Cdn side of the falls, overlooking the Amercian falls, right at the Rainbow Bridge crossing. There are plenty of restaurants in the area, but if I had to guess which restaurant they were supposedly at, I would say it was The Secret Garden restaurant considering it's the only one close to ground level overlooking the falls - the rest of the restaurants are all at the top floors of hotels for the best views... (Anyone who watches Regis in the mornings may remember the Niagara Falls shows in the outdoor theatre -- The Secret Garden restaurant would be right beside that). Also, because of its name, this restaurant would fit in with the literary themes that are scattered throughout this show.. :)

It definately was the Niagra Fall, was there 2 weeks ago :) and it was nice to recognize it!

But the view of the falls didn't mach any resturant, the falls was shown too much from the sides to be from the Canadian side, and not enough sideways to be from the american side... I guess the view was filmed from the bridge :) Unless there is a resturant in the "half-bride" on the american side?

If Rose lived in The Bronx (NY) as stated in the pilot epi then they could have flown to Niagara Falls...its well over 400 miles from The Bronx and there are no direct highways so it takes over 7 hours to drive. They could have flown into Buffalo, NY and then drove the last 20 miles to the falls.

Hi, all. First time poster, long time lurker. (And I mean looooong time.)

While I'm generally willing to excuse any minor continuity flaws in favor of the "big picture" implications -- and as a die-hard fan of The X-Files, I'd certainly have to be -- the fact of the matter is I've been spoiled by LOST so far. While I'm sure there are nitpicks to be made, as of this point in the series, the Rose / Bernard wedding ring is the only one I've managed to catch.

I have no problem assuming that Rose and Bernard traveled in the five or so months before they married, but it still doesn't account for Rose telling Jack that she "always held on to [Bernard's] wedding ring" way back in "Walkabout."

I know that we can write it off as TPTB not really knowing the fates of all the character yet, but the fact remains that it hasn't proven to be a problem in any other case. In a show that's all about details, I find myself hoping (probably in vain) that this minor inconsistancy is somehow dealt with in a later episode, if only because I admire this program's ability to wrap up loose ends so completely and in such a satisfying manner (like the connection between Eko and the drug plane, for instance).

ETA: For grammar.

I'm pretty sure that was Niagara. The view didn't exactly match up with the restaurant though.

That was Niagara Falls? Looked like a restaurant with a nice beach view.

I still don't see how it needs to be rectified. They've only been together for a small while, but they may have traveled the whole time. He did have $10,000 to blow on a mystic healer.

I still don't see how it needs to be rectified. They've only been together for a small while, but they may have traveled the whole time. He did have $10,000 to blow on a mystic healer.

Like I said, I'm willing to accept that they've been travelling throughout their courtship. That makes perfect sense. I suppose it's just the fact Rose tells Jack that Bernard always asks her to hold on to his wedding ring when they fly. If she hadn't specified the wedding ring, I wouldn't consider this a continuity flaw in the slightest.

It's nitpicky, I know, I know. But I've found nothing else to complain about in the series to date thus far. :biggrin:

This scene really bothered me, because I happen to be a Niagara Falls native and the views they were showing in the background just don't add up... first the view is from the Canadian side (of the American falls), then it suddenly shifts to a view of the Horseshoe falls (From an American side perspective).... now I know that could be just a production error -- but come on! It's not like the falls change dramatically every moment. They could have just kept the same imag in the background....

That being said, I began to wonder if what we saw as a flashback actually happened. Up until now I've just assumed that the flashbacks that we have scene is the actual truth that the character had lived... BUT, why do we (or maybe just I) believe this... literature has taught us not to always believe what we are presented.... What if this flashback, and maybe others, are dreams, half truths or out right lies. The first two possibilities - that the flashbacks are dreams or exaggerated truths, could work because people's memory of events will alter as time passes... so what they remember may not be as accurate as we are lead to believe. As for a flashback being an outright lie... maybe we're all being conned and Rose and Bernard actually do work for Dharma!

This is probably for naught, as it was likely a production error ... but you never know. :undecide:

Not to undermine the purpose of this thread or whatever, but really a small inconsistency like having two characters seem well-traveled in the beginning of the season as the story was fleshing out, and then later showing just a small experience of their travels, doesn't seem to merit so much attention. I mean, the lady is supposedly married to him. When you really love and get to know a person, you know minute little things like that about them. I don't think it warrants that much concern. My thoughts. Don't freak out because my opinion is what it is. Please.

What makes us think that they haven't spent their whole maried life traveling? Hes a dentist in NYC so he's making big bucks. Maybe knowing that Rose was only going to be with him for a year, he decided to travel for a year?

They may have only Flew Twice together once to Austraila and then to the Island and that is where she can honstly say that she aways holds onto it