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Kel_el
04-19-2006, 10:31 AM
I have to say aside from the "Take charge attitude" He's a good guy.

A Specific moment for me was when he took Shannons Asthma seriously. Being an asthmatic myself, the thought of not having medication when an Episode hits is scary.

Then we get the "Jedi" moment.

When Jack went to bat for her as well as Sayid. Neither could do wrong Im my opinion.

What's your reason?

squid
04-19-2006, 01:08 PM
Hi Kel el

I like Jack too and partly for the reason a lot of others seem to hate him:rolleyes: I like it that he's more of a flawed & reluctant hero than an outright anti-hero...

I've gotten really kind of tired of the one-dimensional anti-hero stereotype main character glut that TVdom & Hollywood-dom seem to churn out all the time -- Jack's character presents a good contrast imo - he's not a goody goody but he is good -- someone I can get behind and really pull for. The way he thinks, his motives and how he acts reminds me of my husband and a number of guy friends so he seems pretty realistic to me.

I have a theory that more guys relate to (and are fans of) his character than other characters...but that's just my opinion, of course:)

Another factor is that Matthew Fox is a very good actor -- he takes really simple lines and somehow gives them an impact and believeability. I like it that he doesn't rely on his looks but is willing to make the character unsympathetic at times.

myothercarisflight815
04-19-2006, 01:14 PM
I liked Jack at first b/c he was sort of a tortured soul. I can relate to that.

I love the complexity of his character and I am really looking forward to seeing more of why he does what he does.

I do get my nose out of joint when he's snotty to Locke, but I know there's something behind it. I love how he admitted that his bedside manner sucked in the last ep.

Krystal
04-19-2006, 02:45 PM
I like Jack because he seems so real. Every situation he is in I can put myself in his shoes and nine times out of ten, I would have done the same thing or reacted the same way he did.

JL4L
04-19-2006, 05:45 PM
Jack has a good heart. And there's nothing he won't try his best at.

Claudia815
04-19-2006, 06:45 PM
For all of this (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=18225&page=15)and more. Truth is, I don't know if I can rationalize and put into words why I relate to him the most. I could say that he's adorable and I want to have his hazel-eyed babies and I could say that I have a great deal of respect for Jack and both statements would be equally true. :biggrin: I do respect him for being the adult in most situations, for making that constant choice of being good when he could just as well be bad, or he could simply not give a damn about others like his father did. I like that he keeps me guessing and I can't wait to learn more about him.

I also love his "boring" flashbacks. I'm a sucker for dysfunctional family stories and to me, his is the most interesting on the show precisely because it's not as spectacular as others. It makes him look more like a human being and less like a character with a quirky story. I'm not all about answers!answers!answers!, so a slowly-but-nicely developed backstory with great supporting characters and an incredible cast works just as well for this Lost fan. And squid, I couldn't agree more with Jack being a breath of fresh air in the tv landscape.

bo_is_lost
04-19-2006, 06:49 PM
I like him because somebody has to. People I watch it with hate him.

But I take his side, he's right, and things Sawyer or Locke do really mess things up, but everybody loves them. I'm with Jack.

Skybluelost
04-19-2006, 07:51 PM
jack is an old soul...and foxy plays this character to a tee...that kind of, been there.. done that, kind of guy...
skybluelost:-))

Herk
04-19-2006, 08:01 PM
He has all the confidence in the world that he is right and will get what he wants and because he's a good guy and good guys win.

Krystal
04-20-2006, 08:29 PM
He has all the confidence in the world that he is right and will get what he wants and because he's a good guy and good guys win.

Well I don't really think good guys win, but I wish that were the case. :cool:

jheri
04-29-2006, 09:42 PM
I've always liked Jack, though he wasn't may absolute favorite character.
But as the show progresses for some reason I am liking Jack more and more.
Aside from his good looks, I just like his personality. He is strong. He cares for others.
He believes in his convictions, and so much more.

Lost_obsesed_Jade
05-01-2006, 03:20 PM
He's a hero
he's caring
he's a doc
he's got a cool sense of humor (when he lets it show)
he's the type of guy you would trust, who would make you feel safe
and the giggly girl reasons:
he's cute when he smiles
he's cute when he's angry
he's just genrally gorgeous

lockeisthekey
05-06-2006, 09:22 PM
wow. I've never really thought about it.

I didn't like Jack at first. It wasn't until I was rewatching the first season last summer
that I realized he is awesome.

I think a lot of it is just Matthew Fox's talent. I'd never seen him before, so it's
not that I brought any preconceived notions with me...

Jack comes across as REAL, non manipulative, trustworthy, good, loyal, tough,
sensitive-- what's not to love?

The fact that he's easy on the eyes also doesn't hurt. :)

my only problem with Jack is that he totally disrespects John. However, I
can see WHY he does, so I don't let it bug me too much.

EarlhamGirl
05-09-2006, 07:32 PM
I like Jack too and partly for the reason a lot of others seem to hate him:rolleyes: I like it that he's more of a flawed & reluctant hero than an outright anti-hero...

I also like the attitude like Kel- El had mentioned! :D

Winni_Bay
05-11-2006, 08:02 PM
Because he is just simply amazing. Love his strong/powerful character that he plays. "Amazing actor to watch on the screen" The question should be why we LOVE, not like Jack...

evassu esaelp
05-12-2006, 03:21 PM
I like Jack because he does his best in respect to everyone and always puts others before himself. sure he might be getting a little agitated lately but how would you feel if you were looking after 42 people every day and curing them and telling them what to do.

Liplocked
05-20-2006, 11:43 PM
I dunno that I do like him.

I don't dislike him.

But I do enjoy his screentime, and credit for that must go to Matthew Fox, for a performance that - in less sympathetic hands - could become self-pitying and borish.

There's such an intensity in much of the work it's a wonder to me he hasn't dropped from exhaustion.

Angela12
05-22-2006, 09:25 PM
I like Jack because he's hot, and because...

umm....

well...

actually, that's all I've got. :D

mstsparks
05-30-2006, 08:04 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L0cLaRbX9e0 I love Jack!

mattyfan
06-05-2006, 03:41 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L0cLaRbX9e0 I love Jack!

EXACTLY!!!

Ahhh i love this man!!!

evanesco75
06-05-2006, 05:36 AM
He's hot... he's emotional, strong, yet fallible.. he's HUMAN

And definitely, Foxy does an incredible job. Jack wouldn't have been half as appealing in anyone else's hands.

I just loved him in LTDA. He was so good!

wyoscrapper
06-05-2006, 06:30 AM
... he's emotional, strong, yet fallible.. he's HUMAN

I like it that he's more of a flawed & reluctant hero than an outright anti-hero...


I agree with both of these statements. I actually like that he is not perfect.The thing that surprised me most when I first came to these boards was the outright hatred for Jack (and the love of Sawyer!!??!!). After rewatching last years episodes, Sawyer has grown on me, but I have always liked Jack, and he has been my favorite character since the show's beginning.

Claudia815
06-05-2006, 06:31 AM
He's hot... he's emotional, strong, yet fallible.. he's HUMAN
And definitely, Foxy does an incredible job. Jack wouldn't have been half as appealing in anyone else's hands.

I just loved him in LTDA. He was so good!

Yep. That scene where he tells them "I would never bring you out here without a plan" was one of the most intense and beautifully-acted moments in the finale.

I think I need to add to my list that I love Jack because he's an overachiever and he's not ashamed of it. He's also a bit of a paradox. I think he's essentially a loner and as it's been OH so many times been pointed out in this fandom he lacks interpersonal skills, yet at the same time, he chooses to put his faith in people who often don't deserve it and he's loyal to people who wouldn't know loyalty if it bit them in the a**. Also? With the possible exception of Ana Lucia, I've never seen a character who stirs up so much hostility and venom for all the wrong reasons. ==> :jack: even more.

keepitsecretkeepitsafe
06-05-2006, 09:48 AM
I think Jack represents most of the human race- He trys to be a good person and make the right decisions, feels remorse at his failures, tries to make up for them, tries to learn from his mistakes- Hes just a 'regular' guy. I bet 90% of the male population can identify with him- I think hes written into the story that way so people CAN identify with him- its hard to get into a story if you cant relate to any of the characters....

If you look at each of the characters in the show there is a large cross-section of the population represented- Jack -divorced,regular guy with Daddy issues, Sawyer- conflicted criminal, Kate- comes from a broken home, domestic violence in her past (Sawyers too for that matter) Claire- Single Mother, Michael- divorced, single Father, Charlie- Drug Addict, Rose and Bernard-Interracial marriage etc etc. I know that may be over-simplifying it, and obviously theres more to each character than what Ive gone inot, however, there is someone in the show each of us identifies with more than the others for one reason or another. Excellent way to suck us in, huh?

wildjinx
06-08-2006, 10:55 PM
I have loved Jack's character right from the beginning, but I have to say that the video someone on this thread just posted added or clarified something else about him that I like.

Jack, of all the people on the island, is the one who has had to mentally adapt the most. (the other characters have not had to change their way of thinking the way Jack has had to: Locke always wanted to be Mr. Hunter, Sawyer is still working his cons, etc) His flashbacks show him as a successful, though unhappy surgeon, a man well respected and sought after in his field. A man who took life seriously and took failure to heart. A man who was trying to figure out how to express and even admit to/give in to his own feelings. A man with a comfortable life, and materialistically had every thing he needed.

But then, in the days and weeks after the crash, he has had to adapt .. suddenly he is sleeping on cave floors with a crowd full of strangers, unable to have even the simplest modern convenience, is walking miles every day just for the basic necessities of food and water. Those have been his physical adaptations. Emotionally and mentally, he has had to adjust to being in very close confines emotionally with complete strangers and complex personalities. He has had to take on the responsibility for 40+ people. He has had to deal with kidnappings, attempted murder, strange things that go "grrrrrrrr!" in the night and the apparition of his dead father wandering around. He has had to accept and adjust to this new reality where civility is now more of an afterthought. Lesser men would have crumbled a long time ago, unable to let go of their past life. But not only did it not destroy Jack (though it tried), Jack has actually managed to still inspire civilized behaviour in a survivalist environment (think back to the lynch mob that went after Boone).

There are many, many reasons why I love that character, and this was just one.


wow. I've never really thought about it.

I didn't like Jack at first. It wasn't until I was rewatching the first season last summer
that I realized he is awesome.

Jack comes across as REAL, non manipulative, trustworthy, good, loyal, tough,
sensitive-- what's not to love?

Tht is a very good way to describe him ...

The fact that he's easy on the eyes also doesn't hurt. :)

my only problem with Jack is that he totally disrespects John. However, I
can see WHY he does, so I don't let it bug me too much.

Thank you very much for seeing why Jack behaves the way he does to Locke, even when you find it unlikeable... so many people don't take the time to see where Jack is coming from, so instead of disliking his action, they take the easy way out and just dislike the entire character. ... it is rather like throwing out everything in your closet instead of just the one or two shirts you dislike.


But I do enjoy his screentime, and credit for that must go to Matthew Fox, for a performance that - in less sympathetic hands - could become self-pitying and borish.

Fox's portrayal is a definite plus and really helps to show how diverse and complex his character is. I think that because Fox doesn't hold back, the audience is able to see that Jack gives it his all too
There's such an intensity in much of the work it's a wonder to me he hasn't dropped from exhaustion.
Who, Jack or Fox?
.

I like it that he's more of a flawed & reluctant hero than an outright anti-hero...


I agree with both of these statements. I actually like that he is not perfect.The thing that surprised me most when I first came to these boards was the outright hatred for Jack (and the love of Sawyer!!??!!). After rewatching last years episodes, Sawyer has grown on me, but I have always liked Jack, and he has been my favorite character since the show's beginning.

I know what you mean ... it sometimes makes me wonder what kind of world we live in that some people shun the man who is working himself to death trying to help everyone and keep them safe, and who asks for nothing but honesty in return, while cheering on selfish, destructive, pain-in-the-butt behaviour.

shoegirl
06-09-2006, 07:19 AM
I Love jack for who he was, who he is, and who I hope he will become:

He was.....
A brave child who was told he was weak, and shouldn't defend others. An impressionable boy who grew up in a family where performance and results were more important than simple unconditional love. A son living in the shadow of a successful, yet caustic alcoholic miserable father. A young husband, working longhours, trying to be successful at all things, and like many, he couldn't juggle both his marriage and his career. A dutiful son, still hoping to repair a broken relationship with his Father.

Jack is.....
A man who has care and concern for people he didn't know at all until 65 days ago. Weary and tired, exhausted, at carrying the burden of leadership, but he still gets up and goes every day. A leader, who sometimes doubts his own abilities and leadership skills, yet still attempts to do the right thing for the most people. Impatient under stress (like most of us). A loyal friend. A pissed off enemy. Athletic, getting honed even more by the rigors of island life. Knowledgable. Compassionate. A good doctor. Adjusting to island life and what that means to his doctoring capabilities. A thinker, who takes a problem and works it in his mind to find the best solution. A protector. Afraid, afraid he'll be like the man his father told him he would be. A man who can keep a confidence. A man who has faith in people changing for the better. A man, deeply attracted to a woman he doesn't yet fully understand.

I hope Jack will become.....
Sawyer's true friend. A man who still makes mistakes (we all do!), yet uses his mistakes to learn lessons in life, and correct his own wrongs. More understanding of those he doesn't "get". Henry's most frightening enemy. Stronger, tougher. A man of faith and trust. Better understood. Claire's big brother a man with a real family. A man who knows unconditional love. Kate's Lover.


So yes, I love Jack. I choose Jack!

justluvit
06-09-2006, 09:25 AM
Jack is a man of integrity and honour, earnest in every endeavour, determined to always give his best and these traits have not changed regardless of the circumstances he finds himself in. He has faithfully given his best to these people and sustained them through their tribulation with his strength of character, intelligence, determination and willingness to believe that they can and will survive. His courage has been displayed many times through his readiness to put his life on the line for others. Yet he is openly vulnerable, his humanity exposed and his emotions unveiled for all to see.
Basically
Jack is passionate and intense
Jack is a wonderful doctor with a deep and intrinsic belief in the preservation of life and helping others.
Jack is a gorgeous sexy man and even more so because he is oblivious to the fact
He is a faithful leader
He is every mothers dream for her daughter
He is every young woman’s dream lover, friend and husband
He is every mans hope for a best friend

ETA - I'm madly in love with Jack if you hadn't already guessed and if he was real I would jump his bones (just as well that he is make believe!!!)

Zatherran
06-09-2006, 12:42 PM
we need more heros like Jack.. finding a real one is heaven.. we need more Jack..period..

notfadeaway
06-12-2006, 04:18 PM
Last season I basically said that I like Jack cause he's holdin' it down on the island despite being broken. I think I'll stick with that. He's a bit mysterious, a little nutty, compassionate, badarse, sometimes awkward, funny, serious, someone mentioned on another thread earnest to a fault. I think Rose said it best. He has a good way about him.

JoanLocke
06-14-2006, 03:56 AM
I like him,because he is commited and loyal and cares a lot for the other survivors.He thinks about everyone else first.But he isnīt a saint (what would make his character annoying to me).He has flaws like everyone else and that makes him human.

Jackaroo
06-16-2006, 10:01 AM
*whoa. what could I add?* everything they said ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Because I chickened out of watching White Rabbit last night 'cuz I'd know I'd feel yucked up afterwards. LOL; the ******* got me sympathizing with and feeling for him more than's good for me.

And because he told us 'we should all be able to start over.'

And the future Jack hopes... amen to it (xcept for Kate - lemme think on that one)!!!

krekk
06-16-2006, 09:33 PM
What got me liking Jack? Ummmm, well, I have liked Matt since Party of five so I knew he'd be good in this too. But it's the depth he puts into his character. When he cries you can feel his pain. His history with his father, the sadness and heartbreak he has suffered, it's all echoed in his acting..
Jack is amazing, and the way he dealt with the Charlie sistuation in All the best cowboys gripped me..He refused to give in and his determination won that day..

Katrina
06-23-2006, 05:00 PM
I like Jack because he never gives up, he is so caring towards everyone even the peep he doesn't like [when Sawyer got shot].He just has a way about him.Also he is very misterious eg. his tatoos and how is he so good with wepons and with handeling bad situations, that makes Jack intresting .I like the fact that he always puts others before himself and also because he is sexy.There the reasons why Jack dos it for me.

fourthpoliceman
06-27-2006, 04:50 AM
Why do I like Jack's character? Because he's the perfect study of a control freak who can't control many of the circumstances he and the Losties are in, and I find that extremely interesting.
Locke's issues of faith are interesting as well, but that idea's been explored before, given not the same situations, but explored numerously nonetheless.

Zatherran
06-27-2006, 11:15 AM
Jack know who he is and isnt out to prove is.. they say queit waters run deep, well this guy is one serious deep eddie!

Liplocked
06-27-2006, 12:00 PM
Eddie? I think the man's a maelstrom! :D

I like Jack because the man I supposed was a romantic hero may yet beat John to the crackers punch and outdo Mike to boot. He doesn't frighten me - yet... but he is cause for concern.

I like not being sure about him.

Hufflepuff
07-02-2006, 06:41 PM
I like Jack because he is not the perfect hero he seems to be in the pilot. He is a caring person who does his best to help everybody. Jack gives everyone a second chance and he is fair.
He is a fascinating character with a huge inferiority complex. I want to find out more about his past.

LostFANatic91
07-04-2006, 12:23 AM
I like Jack for several reasons. I like him because he is a good guy. I like a good guy every now and again. I also like the fact that he's not ALL good. He has a past, and he has baggage. He just seems so real and that's what I love about him. He's always trying to help others. (Even when they don't want help) But that fact that he doesn't give up is a good quality. I think at least. There is SO much more I coulf write to WHY I LOVE JACK :biggrin:

lockeisthekey
07-04-2006, 11:24 AM
someone (fourthpoliceman, maybe) posted that Jack is a control freak who can't
control things on the island.

BINGO. that right there makes him fascinating. I think it's a huge part of why he
is a bit out of sorts. he NEEDS to control his environment. He can't.
Poor sweetie. Then he has to deal with all of these personalities around him,
some of whom are a bit nuts...

Matthew Fox is an amazing actor, and watching him bring Jack to life is one of the
main pleasures of LOST for me (in addition to doing the same with Locke/O'Quinn
and Desmond/Cusick, among others).

justluvit
07-05-2006, 10:05 AM
Why do I like Jack's character? Because he's the perfect study of a control freak who can't control many of the circumstances he and the Losties are in, and I find that extremely interesting.


Well your a bloke (thats aussie for male if you were wondering) :rolleyes: ....as a female I worship the make-believe ground he walks on :biggrin:........hadn't taken much notice of the control side as I can't get past the body and looks (and of course he's a neurosurgeon into the bargain ;) )

Zatherran
07-05-2006, 07:22 PM
because when I asked for my dream.. they sent me own Jack... patient, undestanding, sweet, wants to be loved for who he is, and loves with all his heart...
with out lost, I would never have found him....

justluvit
07-05-2006, 07:57 PM
because when I asked for my dream.. they sent me own Jack... patient, undestanding, sweet, wants to be loved for who he is, and loves with all his heart...
with out lost, I would never have found him....

awww....me too....we can share him Zath :biggrin:

fourthpoliceman
07-05-2006, 09:18 PM
Well your a bloke (thats aussie for male if you were wondering) :rolleyes: ....as a female I worship the make-believe ground he walks on :biggrin:........hadn't taken much notice of the control side as I can't get past the body and looks (and of course he's a neurosurgeon into the bargain ;) )
And they say men are notoriously shallow. ;) BTW, did you notice Gabrielle? She seems so 'intelligent'. :redface:

justluvit
07-05-2006, 09:42 PM
And they say men are notoriously shallow. ;) BTW, did you notice Gabrielle? She seems so 'intelligent'. :redface:

Booo....(I'm old enough to be allowed some leave way :biggrin: )...and I did notice Gabrielle (imo she is hot...ummm....intelligent looking....even from a female point of view) funny you mention that I was going to ask you the same question....quite a quandry there for Jack eh?

wildjinx
07-05-2006, 09:51 PM
Well your a bloke (thats aussie for male if you were wondering) ....as a female I worship the make-believe ground he walks on ........hadn't taken much notice of the control side as I can't get past the body and looks (and of course he's a neurosurgeon into the bargain )


And they say men are notoriously shallow. ;) BTW, did you notice Gabrielle? She seems so 'intelligent'. :redface:

Lol, Don't worry ... justluvit is just pulling your leg ... kinda :biggrin: She most definitely sees and appreciates his character beyond just the physical attributes, and is responsible for some of the most insightful and intelligent discussions/posts on the Fox Den, so she isn't just a Jack-Bunny. However, in addition to her excellent philosophical and analytical posts, she does sport very keen eyesight and has a fantastic appreciation of Jack's *ahem* more visible characteristics :winkkiss:

fourthpoliceman
07-05-2006, 10:20 PM
Lol, Don't worry ... justluvit is just pulling your leg ... kinda :biggrin: She most definitely sees and appreciates his character beyond just the physical attributes, and is responsible for some of the most insightful and intelligent discussions/posts on the Fox Den, so she isn't just a Jack-Bunny. However, in addition to her excellent philosophical and analytical posts, she does sport very keen eyesight and has a fantastic appreciation of Jack's *ahem* more visible characteristics :winkkiss:

Fox den? I think I'm gonna stay away from that thread. ;) :biggrin:

justluvit
07-05-2006, 10:22 PM
Lol, Don't worry ... justluvit is just pulling your leg ... kinda :biggrin: She most definitely sees and appreciates his character beyond just the physical attributes, and is responsible for some of the most insightful and intelligent discussions/posts on the Fox Den, so she isn't just a Jack-Bunny. However, in addition to her excellent philosophical and analytical posts, she does sport very keen eyesight and has a fantastic appreciation of Jack's *ahem* more visible characteristics :winkkiss:

:rotflmao2: .....I am a Jack Bunny first and foremost........and besides 4thcop is a doc (I have a thing for docs :eek2: ) and besides I have fun pulling his leg....you like me pulling your leg don't you 4thcop?..........4thcop don't run away.....come back.....its safe really it is :biggrin:

fourthpoliceman
07-05-2006, 10:24 PM
...quite a quandry there for Jack eh?

Not in my opinion.. after Sarah's confession, Jack should have went looking for her. lol. I'm sure he could have 'fixed' her too. ;)
100%
:rotflmao2: .....I am a Jack Bunny first and foremost........and besides 4thcop is a doc (I have a thing for docs :eek2: ) and besides I have fun pulling his leg....you like me pulling your leg don't you 4thcop?..........4thcop don't run away.....come back.....its safe really it is :biggrin:

Ummm, I'm gonna go look for a Gabrielle thread now! ;) Maybe, I can 'fix her'. :biggrin:

justluvit
07-05-2006, 10:31 PM
Not in my opinion.. after Sarah's confession, Jack should have went looking for her. lol. I'm sure he could have 'fixed' her too. ;)
100%


Say it like it is....love a man's take (straight from the hip or whatever).....hang on....I think I had the same thought :rolleyes:

Hey thats another reason I love Jack........can't wait till he "fixes" someone :biggrin:

wildjinx
07-05-2006, 11:11 PM
Fox den? I think I'm gonna stay away from that thread. ;) :biggrin:

LOL! It's just a Matthew Fox/Jack discussion thread, nothing to fear :3:

Zoriah
07-06-2006, 01:04 AM
I should probably weigh in, it's good to focus on the positive from time to time, and while I have sometimes been frustrated with Jack...

Probably my number one reason: I love that he really cares about people. Deeply. I am not sure he is always able to express it well, but I do believe that is how he is.

I think he's incredibly brave. And always puts other's people's safety before his own.

He accepts responsibility for his actions. Perhaps sometimes beats himself up about failures a bit too much, but still it's pretty darn cool that he doesn't pass the buck.

He believes in giving second chances, and tries not to judge people. Now I am not sure if he always succeeds, after all, he's only human, but I think it is an ideal he strives for.

These are some of the things I admire about Jack.

fourthpoliceman
07-06-2006, 02:19 AM
awww....me too....we can share him Zath :biggrin:

Share? ummm, now I'm getting scared. ;) Are you one of the 'naughty nurses' I heard about?

justluvit
07-06-2006, 03:32 AM
Share? ummm, now I'm getting scared. ;) Are you one of the 'naughty nurses' I heard about?

I was a nurse but very "florence nightingale" not at all naughty (hate to think what I would be like now :eek2: ) I was ernest like our Jack...late husband was a doctor (Obstetrician), dabbled in theology, minored in philosophy and Bachelor of Psychology nearly finished....plus two sons in Law who make me read and edit their work :rolleye1: :yawn: but they have never returned the favour for my psych assessments :mad:

Ok whats your specialty?................

Jack is special because....he just is.....and he is a neurosurgeon ( :biggrin: )

fourthpoliceman
07-06-2006, 04:18 AM
.plus two sons in Law who make me read and edit their work :rolleye1: :yawn: but they have never returned the favour for my psych assessments :mad: Isn't that the way it's supposed to work? :redface:, Ever try a guilt trip with them? ;)

Ok whats your specialty?................ Finished my fellowship in sports medicine not before beginning Orthopaedics but not finishing, after family medicine. However, I continue to work in Emergency Medicine two or three days a week while I'm building up my practice. Just finished everything just over a year ago.. so, I am enjoying the down time I get, but still enjoy being busy at times and like it at the hospital for some reason. I think it's because of the people there: the nurses, other docs, are all great people are hilarious.

Jack is special because....he just is.....and he is a neurosurgeon ( :biggrin: )
Neurosurgery is overrated! LOL.. just kidding. My dad is a head/neck surgeon (ENT) and pushed me to get into neurology for some reason. The other choice he pushed for was dermatology! Odd alternative, eh? :rolleyes:

Claudia815
07-06-2006, 04:45 AM
Share? ummm, now I'm getting scared. ;) Are you one of the 'naughty nurses' I heard about?

Yes, yes she is. Don't let her Aussie sweetness fool you. :biggrin:
Neurosurgery is overrated! LOL.. just kidding. My dad is a head/neck surgeon (ENT) and pushed me to get into neurology for some reason. The other choice he pushed for was dermatology! Odd alternative, eh? :rolleyes:
No kidding. At least he's more flexible than Christian. :biggrin:

And they say men are notoriously shallow. ;) BTW, did you notice Gabrielle? She seems so 'intelligent'. :redface:

Well, the truth is you'd have to be blind not to notice Monica Dean (http://www.hazbank.ro/opinia/1853_monica_barladeanu.jpg) whether you're a guy or a girl. That's another reason I like Jack's episodes. Pretty much all the supporting characters connected to him are rather... aesthetically pleasing.

justluvit
07-06-2006, 09:23 AM
Don't listen to them all 4thcop its not true.....yes it is.....no its not :eek2:

I think keeping your hand in on some emergency medicine is a great idea...even when you have your practice up and running....keeps the doctor skills honed.......gets harder when you are married and have a family though...I can remember when my husband was an ob registrar and he was on call every second/third night for a while there (after a full day) I would go and stay with him in at the hospital (little poky single bed in the doctors quarters!) cause I couldn't stand being home without him :biggrin: ......those were the days.......
btw hows your tinsy winsy cutesy neurosurgeon eh? :whistling2:

So you can relate to Jack because he followed his dad into medicine ....sounds like your dad is a cool guy though (unlike Christian :bash: )

Finished my fellowship in sports medicine not before beginning Orthopaedics but not finishing, after family medicine

Let me get this straight you did sports medicine certification (after doing pre-requisite time in family medicine)...didn't like the orthopaedics or just wanted to get out and get going?.........emergency medicine is a pre-requisite for certification also?..........pretty cool choice much better than Dermatology...all those moles and rashes and topical diseases :no2: ;)

Back to the thread.......Why do I like Jack because he is an intelligent hunk with a big heart and great biceps

fourthpoliceman
07-06-2006, 03:20 PM
Yes, yes she is. Don't let her Aussie sweetness fool you. :biggrin: Oh.. I'm on to her! ;)

Well, the truth is you'd have to be blind not to notice Monica Dean (http://www.hazbank.ro/opinia/1853_monica_barladeanu.jpg) whether you're a guy or a girl. That's another reason I like Jack's episodes. Pretty much all the supporting characters connected to him are rather... aesthetically pleasing. I love the fact that you have that picture ready to link... I bet, at least, I hope you also have that picture in your wallet. :biggrin: I've just bumped you up to one of my favorite people here at the 'lage. ;) :biggrin:
100%
Don't listen to them all 4thcop its not true.....yes it is.....no its not :eek2: I'd like to draw attention to your use of the words, "THEM ALL" :biggrin:.

I think keeping your hand in on some emergency medicine is a great idea...even when you have your practice up and running....keeps the doctor skills honed.......gets harder when you are married and have a family though..Yor're pobably right about maintain diagnostic skills, but what I love most about working at the hospital E.D. even during emergencies is, it rarely feels like work. Because of the people there, and the fun it is, it doesn't feel like work. And being 'unspoken' for, It's obviously easier with some of the night shifts for me. I can know how uneasy it is to be oncall and leaving in the middle of the night. My dad used to get called all the time.
I can remember when my husband was an ob registrar and he was on call every second/third night for a while there (after a full day) I would go and stay with him in at the hospital (little poky single bed in the doctors quarters!) cause I couldn't stand being home without him :biggrin: ......those were the days....... Obviously, he was a very lucky man.
[/quote]btw hows your tinsy winsy cutesy neurosurgeon eh? :whistling2: [/quote] If you're reffering to the cute orthopaedic surgeon, she'll great. A little older than me, but am supposed to be playing tennis with her sometime next week. As for the two neurosurgeons here, I still have yet to see them. I swear, maybe my dad was right. They don't ever seem to be at work.

So you can relate to Jack because he followed his dad into medicine ....sounds like your dad is a cool guy though (unlike Christian :bash: ) Maybe, but most of my parent's family friends who had sons and daughters all seemed to go into medicine or dentistry. So, it didn't feel unique by anymeans, and there was definitely no sense of entitlement. That said, my older brother and brother-in-law are both MDs as well. And considering the mischief I got into growing up, undergrad, med school, last weekend! I'd be the black sheep in the family.


Let me get this straight you did sports medicine certification (after doing pre-requisite time in family medicine)...didn't like the orthopaedics or just wanted to get out and get going?.........emergency medicine is a pre-requisite for certification also?..........pretty cool choice much better than Dermatology...all those moles and rashes and topical diseases :no2: ;) I'm pretty sure, the U.S. and British systems are akin to the Canadian system, whereby a fellowship in sports medicine can only be done with licensure to practice certain fields of medicine such as family medicine, ortho, physiatry... As for orthopaedics,.. I just got side tracked into sports medicine, and didn't want to go back. Shaving off a few years to begin working didn't hurt either. As for emergency medicine, it was after family medicine and before sports medicine that I erolled in the necissary program.

And the Dermatology thing, I know why my dad wanted me to go that route. Dermatology is a great specialty in that they hold private office hours, no on-calls, no wierd hours. Its very clean, relative to pediatrics, surgery, .... They're malpractice insurance is next to nothing, and, they make ALOT of money.

Back to the thread.......Why do I like Jack because he is an intelligent hunk with a big heart and great biceps I'll take your word that you do infact mean biceps. ;)

justluvit
07-06-2006, 06:32 PM
4thcop
I'd like to draw attention to your use of the words, "THEM ALL" :biggrin:


oops....

If you're reffering to the cute orthopaedic surgeon, she'll great

I seem to have a one tracked mind :eek2:

A little older than me

no problem :biggrin:


Maybe, but most of my parent's family friends who had sons and daughters all seemed to go into medicine or dentistry. So, it didn't feel unique by anymeans, and there was definitely no sense of entitlement. That said, my older brother and brother-in-law are both MDs as well. And considering the mischief I got into growing up, undergrad, med school, last weekend! I'd be the black sheep in the family.

My husband was one of three siblings who all went into medicine and his mother was a dentist....go figure.......You sound like my husband, he was a wild one in med school......but I tamed him :whip:

And the Dermatology thing, I know why my dad wanted me to go that route. Dermatology is a great specialty in that they hold private office hours, no on-calls, no wierd hours. Its very clean, relative to pediatrics, surgery, .... They're malpractice insurance is next to nothing, and, they make ALOT of money.

Perfect medical specialty........but oh so :yawn: :sleepy:


I'll take your word that you do infact mean biceps. ;)


Remember I'm florence nightingale incarnate :angelnot:

I like Jack because he has great ARMS and TATOOS (I don't normally like tats but these ones are very attractive on that body)

fourthpoliceman
07-06-2006, 08:46 PM
[quote]My husband was one of three siblings who all went into medicine and his mother was a dentist....go figure.......You sound like my husband, he was a wild one in med school......but I tamed him :whip: It scares me that you found an emoticon demonstrating getting 'whipped' LOL :biggrin: I like being 'whipped', but I;m unsure about the cougar thing. ;)

Remember I'm florence nightingale incarnate :angelnot: So you keep on saying. But who are you trying to convince? Maybe yourself? :eek2:

I like Jack because he has great ARMS and TATOOS (I don't normally like tats but these ones are very attractive on that body) Is that what they're calling it these days. :biggrin:

Claudia815
07-08-2006, 10:18 AM
I bet, at least, I hope you also have that picture in your wallet. :biggrin:

Damn. I knew I should have snapped some pictures of her when I met her in person. Of course, I had no idea she'd be on Lost back then, but trust me, she looks great even at 3 am in the morning with no makeup. And she got paid for kissing Matthew Fox. Which only goes to prove there's no justice in this world. :sadwalk:

I've just bumped you up to one of my favorite people here at the 'lage. ;) :biggrin:

Awww... I feel so special. How (http://www.curierulnational.ro/foto/701_50206.jpg) do (http://www.hotnews.ro/images/articole/img_33781.jpg) you (http://www.tvmania.ro/images/content/127mare.jpg) like (http://www.tvmania.ro/images/content/2413mare.jpg) me (http://www.vedeta.ro/admin/_files/newsannounce/repres_cat_247_MonicaBarladeanu_16.jpg) now (http://www.hotnews.ro/images/articole/img_37590.jpg)? :biggrin:


As for the two neurosurgeons here, I still have yet to see them. I swear, maybe my dad was right. They don't ever seem to be at work.


Hm. Maybe that's why Christian didn't respond to the call when Sarah and Mr.Rutherford were brought in in the ER. See? I told you not all neurosurgeons are portrayed in a positive light.

fourthpoliceman
07-08-2006, 04:38 PM
Awww... I feel so special. How (http://www.curierulnational.ro/foto/701_50206.jpg) do (http://www.hotnews.ro/images/articole/img_33781.jpg) you (http://www.tvmania.ro/images/content/127mare.jpg) like (http://www.tvmania.ro/images/content/2413mare.jpg) me (http://www.vedeta.ro/admin/_files/newsannounce/repres_cat_247_MonicaBarladeanu_16.jpg) now (http://www.hotnews.ro/images/articole/img_37590.jpg)? :biggrin:


I think I LOVE YOU!! ;)

justluvit
07-09-2006, 07:39 AM
Awww... I feel so special. How (http://www.curierulnational.ro/foto/701_50206.jpg) do (http://www.hotnews.ro/images/articole/img_33781.jpg) you (http://www.tvmania.ro/images/content/127mare.jpg) like (http://www.tvmania.ro/images/content/2413mare.jpg) me (http://www.vedeta.ro/admin/_files/newsannounce/repres_cat_247_MonicaBarladeanu_16.jpg) now (http://www.hotnews.ro/images/articole/img_37590.jpg)? :biggrin:



I think I LOVE YOU!! ;)

Clauds you are such a :pimp: for Gabby...i.e. Monny

ETA - and Jack/Foxy

-Scully-
07-10-2006, 10:38 PM
I always like Jack. He is one of my favorite character.
He's strong and has a good heart. He cares for others. He's hot!
And his smile kills me! *thud*

Giuly
07-11-2006, 08:42 AM
Well, saying that he is hot is obvious!
So I say: he is good, a sensitive man (I love when he cries because I can see his fragility) but in the same time he is strong and he is able to take right decision, to give hope to people who are around him and I love him with Kate :)

Michelle67
07-11-2006, 07:41 PM
Why do I like Jack? -- because I kind of see him as the anchor of the show.Got nothing to do with being the main character or anything but more along the lines of being the stable one -- the one that's going to weigh out everything and try to make the best possible decision for everybody (he's a natural born leader).

In his little contest with Locke he kind of got of course with that and became a little annoying(what character hasn't become a little annoying as of late anyway -- we still love them) but I think that with the seperation(Locke on one side of the island and him on the other) that Jack will return to the way he was at the first and find a way to get him and Sawyer and Kate out of the mess they are in with the others.

I noticed in the finale that Hurley still looked to Jack to let him know what to do(whether or not to return to camp when the others told him to) as well as Kate -- they all still see him as the leader.Even though some of them have rebelled against his leadership this season -- when things become serious --it's Jack they turn to.

wildjinx
07-11-2006, 11:51 PM
Why do I like Jack? -- because I kind of see him as the anchor of the show.Got nothing to do with being the main character or anything but more along the lines of being the stable one -- the one that's going to weigh out everything and try to make the best possible decision for everybody (he's a natural born leader).

In his little contest with Locke he kind of got of course with that and became a little annoying(what character hasn't become a little annoying as of late anyway -- we still love them) but I think that with the seperation(Locke on one side of the island and him on the other) that Jack will return to the way he was at the first and find a way to get him and Sawyer and Kate out of the mess they are in with the others.

I noticed in the finale that Hurley still looked to Jack to let him know what to do(whether or not to return to camp when the others told him to) as well as Kate -- they all still see him as the leader.Even though some of them have rebelled against his leadership this season -- when things become serious --it's Jack they turn to.

Great point (although I adore snarky Jack too, lol :3:)

Giuly
07-12-2006, 09:51 AM
I noticed in the finale that Hurley still looked to Jack to let him know what to do(whether or not to return to camp when the others told him to) as well as Kate -- they all still see him as the leader.Even though some of them have rebelled against his leadership this season -- when things become serious --it's Jack they turn to.

I noticed that too! I have to confess that I have a blind faith in Jack!

Layla_V
07-20-2006, 07:11 AM
Why do I like Jack? -- because I kind of see him as the anchor of the show.Got nothing to do with being the main character or anything but more along the lines of being the stable one -- the one that's going to weigh out everything and try to make the best possible decision for everybody (he's a natural born leader).

That's one of the many reasons I like him, Michelle. Very well put. I also enjoy watching him try to deal with so many incredibly difficult problems and adjust to life on this strange island. He's human and like a lot of us sometimes he breaks under the sheer weight of all those problems, but what I love most about him is how stubborn he is. He won't give up on people, even if sometimes they don't deserve the effort.

Katrina
07-20-2006, 08:41 AM
Why do I like Jack? -- because I kind of see him as the anchor of the show.Got nothing to do with being the main character or anything but more along the lines of being the stable one -- the one that's going to weigh out everything and try to make the best possible decision for everybody (he's a natural born leader). .

That was a lovely way to put it *wipes a tear from her eye* well done Michelle:)

I love Jack because he is the most real character on the show, that you can relate to.

By the way may I just say Love the avi Layla_V :D

KMG
07-20-2006, 07:35 PM
Jack is like all the cool young doctors I've worked with that you just respect for their kindness & their leadership skills.

_Ingrid_
07-23-2006, 02:01 PM
He's so unlike any other lead character on tv. I love Dr.House but he's a jerk cut from the same cloth as a lot of other snarky bad boys with a mushy core on tv. Jack's different and human. I like both the good and the bad of the character, he's just interesting to watch. (And nice to look at, obviously ;))

campusgirl
08-07-2006, 08:13 AM
For all the mentioned reasons, and because he is masculine and sensitive, and a person with a vocation to do good and 'serve' others. Not many of those in that camp.

Karrin Murphy
08-07-2006, 08:29 AM
Funny thing is that I didn't care for the character all that much in the first season. Didn't hate him mind you, but thought him a tad boring when compared to characters like Sayid , Locke , Charlie and Hurley. The more we see his back story and how it affects his current decision making, the more I like him. Wonder if we'll ever see more of his father of the empty coffin.

Claudia815
08-08-2006, 10:44 AM
The more we see his back story and how it affects his current decision making, the more I like him. Wonder if we'll ever see more of his father of the empty coffin.

Puff Daddy (TM shoegirl) is a big part of the reason I love Jack's story--I can never make up my mind if I hate Christian, love him for how great his character is or feel sorry for him. John Terry and Matthew Fox work together so well that each one of their scenes together is a joy to watch. I'm actually glad Jack's backstory hasn't had any explosions/murders/mobsters/organ stealing (so far). Most people don't have those kind of experiences, but family issues are easier to relate to and more complex to explore in a story, imo.

I think it's very likely that we'll see Christian again, Two For The Road opened another potential storyline: Jack's Australian sister. In the latest issue of the Lost magazine, John Terry said he'd like to see a different side of Jack's relationship with Christian, explore some of the things they have in common. Damon has recently mentioned Christian as well in a recent interview. I think I read somewhere that at Comic Con, the follwing answer was given:

"If you're asking about daddy issues, you're asking the right questions"
I'm just paraphrasing and my memory might be a little faulty, but it's looking good for Puff Daddy fans. :biggrin:

wildjinx
08-08-2006, 11:00 AM
Puff Daddy (TM shoegirl) is a big part of the reason I love Jack's story--I can never make up my mind if I hate Christian, love him for how great his character is or feel sorry for him. John Terry and Matthew Fox work together so well that each one of their scenes together is a joy to watch. I'm actually glad Jack's backstory hasn't had any explosions/murders/mobsters/organ stealing (so far). Most people don't have those kind of experiences, but family issues are easier to relate to and more complex to explore in a story, imo.

I think it's very likely that we'll see Christian again, Two For The Road opened another potential storyline: Jack's Australian sister. In the latest issue of the Lost magazine, John Terry said he'd like to see a different side of Jack's relationship with Christian, explore some of the things they have in common. Damon has recently mentioned Christian as well in a recent interview. I think I read somewhere that at Comic Con, the follwing answer was given:

"If you're asking about daddy issues, you're asking the right questions"
I'm just paraphrasing and my memory might be a little faulty, but it's looking good for Puff Daddy fans. :biggrin:

Lol, you need an "I love Christian, sort of" sign :biggrin:

Liplocked
08-08-2006, 02:53 PM
I like the way - now he uses his first name - he manages to inject as much contempt into 'John' as he ever did into the much snappier Locke.

John reads like it has a sigh in the middle: ohhh; ;) all you have to do is exhale! but when the doctor's done...

then it sounds like someone got their thumb caught in a drawer. :thumbsup: Well done Foxy. :D

wildjinx
08-09-2006, 01:26 AM
I like the way - now he uses his first name - he manages to inject as much contempt into 'John' as he ever did into the much snappier Locke.

John reads like it has a sigh in the middle: ohhh; ;) all you have to do is exhale! but when the doctor's done...

then it sounds like someone got their thumb caught in a drawer. :thumbsup: Well done Foxy. :D

heee ... "exasperated Jack" rocks :biggrin:

Liplocked
08-09-2006, 02:19 PM
Doesn't he just? There's something about men behaving badly that brings out the worst in me - I'm like those old women sat beside the wrestling ring or guillotine egging proceedings on.

Oh, and I like Jack for his ambiguous name - heroic giant killer or tart stealing knave - I'll bet we're treated to some killer flashbacks in Season 3. *excited*

Deadshot
08-09-2006, 02:43 PM
I like the conflict in him,good drama right there. His role of leader and the way he has taken to it since the crash. His flashbacks. His take charge attitude. Just a good all round character.

everblue3
08-15-2006, 05:12 AM
Doesn't he just? There's something about men behaving badly that brings out the worst in me - I'm like those old women sat beside the wrestling ring or guillotine egging proceedings on.

Oh, and I like Jack for his ambiguous name - heroic giant killer or tart stealing knave - I'll bet we're treated to some killer flashbacks in Season 3. *excited*
:happy_bounce:I chortle at your turn of phrase. :thumbup:

Lol, you need an "I love Christian, sort of" sign :biggrin:
Christian pwns in that "I'll make your life miserable and lonely, but dammit, I'm awesome and you can't fault my twisted logic" sort of way. Or maybe I just have a thing for sadistic smooth-talking doctors. The revelations about how Christian molded Jack make him seem so much more than three-dimensional; if John Terry has his way, I can't wait to see how they'll present Christian's character next.

SenatorKent
10-05-2006, 03:53 PM
I think Jack is attractive to fans for the same way he is to the characters on the show. He has a lot of flaws, sure, but he has a ton of strength. He exumes confidence and security. He makes everyone feel comfortable and, if Jack's in charge, things are probably going to turn out OK. Because he makes them feel safe, it, in turn, makes me feel safe. After all, everything bad has happened when Jack hasn't been around. No, that happens when Shannon runs off into the woods alone...or Boone climbs up into a tree way off in the woods with Locke....or Libby descends into the hatch to get pillows....If our characters would just hang around Jack, I think they'd be OK.

petetheileet
10-13-2006, 03:54 AM
I like Jack because no matter what the situation, he always thinks in the now....unlike Locke he leaves nothing to chance and ultimately will never put anyone in any real danger. He's a true leader and the most important member of the cast

Zatherran
10-13-2006, 05:50 PM
Jack is the one person you could talk to and never judge you.
the show needs him. he is strong minded, determined, and yes stubburn, but he stands behind his beliefs.. locke is to fickle to easlity distracted.. but jack his focus will be his savor.
he is grounded.

CharliesHoodie
10-15-2006, 12:28 PM
You know, Jack just isn't my type. He does a lot of good on the island, but there's something about him that turns me completely off. He's a little to serious, I guess. I've never really liked anything to do with doctors, either. But sometimes, I don't mind him.

SenatorKent
10-15-2006, 05:34 PM
I agree that he's not the most interesting, but his personality is essentiel to balance out the cast.

Swan
10-25-2006, 07:58 PM
I like that Jack doesn't totally fit any particular stereotype, which keeps him interesting to me. He has multiple layers to his character, as do most of the Lostaways, and we never can be truly sure of what he, or anyone else, will say or do in a given situation until it occurs. I think this is part of the reason we all watch. You just never know....

wangho75
11-05-2006, 12:01 AM
It seems like he has alot of female fans and VERY few male fans. Well, I'll go on record to say Jack IS the greatest and most complex character on Lost and on tv, for that matter. He may even be the best, most complex, captivating, and most "real" character ever. Now since im a young, heterosexual guy, Locke, Sawyer, Desmond, Sayid, or Eko are supposed to be my favorites, but I like Jack the best and I agree with all the points in this thread. He is the most fun to watch onscreen. Just wait until you see episode 6 of season 3. The preview clips just has him putting in a VERY AMAZING performance. Jack is best, not Bauer, Shepherd.

pleasance
11-05-2006, 01:31 AM
I quite like Jack because he is the "everyman" of Lost; he is the first person we meet and we begin by seeing the island and the plane crash through his eyes. To start with Lost is his story. Perhaps Lost is still Jack's story, but we are seeing how each of other people on the island connect to Jack and what their back story is. Jack is a fairly ordinary man; extraordinarily gifted doctor, but an ordinary man. He is the foil for other characters, the straightman, the normality within the strangeness. Every good story needs its everyman.

I bet we are all quite relieved that TPTB decided that the monster in the first ep would kill the pilot instead of Jack....I think had they gone with the original plot idea (to have the monster kill Jack) the show would have (to borrow a neighbouring thread) "jumped the shark" in the first hour!

lostgurl
11-05-2006, 08:58 AM
I like Jack because he's truly a good guy. He does everything in his power to help/save people. The part where he shows his emotion just shows how much to actually cares. Also, he works to benefit the group as a whole, he's not selfish.
Oh, and he's super smart too. :smile:
:jack:

_Ingrid_
11-10-2006, 01:13 AM
Because I'm a nursing mother and can't use alcohol to dull my pain over what this show has become.

Oh, wait... What I mean was: because he's the best thing in season three.

flashbackfan
11-10-2006, 02:34 AM
It seems like he has alot of female fans and VERY few male fans. Well, I'll go on record to say Jack IS the greatest and most complex character on Lost and on tv, for that matter. He may even be the best, most complex, captivating, and most "real" character ever. Now since im a young, heterosexual guy, Locke, Sawyer, Desmond, Sayid, or Eko are supposed to be my favorites, but I like Jack the best and I agree with all the points in this thread.
Well, just for the record, I'm a hetero guy in my 30's and I like Jack's character just as much as I like Locke and Sayid, if not a little more. I relate most to him and I think Mathew Fox does a great job at conveying deep emotions. Yeap, Jack's da man in my book. :cool:

Krystal
11-10-2006, 05:46 PM
It seems like he has alot of female fans and VERY few male fans.

You couldn't be more wrong lol. All of my guy friends love Jack. All of my guy co-workers love Jack. All of my friends guy friends love Jack and the list goes on. You just don't see it in fandom, but I'm sure if you would take a poll on the amount of women vs men on this site, you would get the shock of your life lol.

Now since im a young, heterosexual guy, Locke, Sawyer, Desmond, Sayid, or Eko are supposed to be my favorites, but I like Jack the best and I agree with all the points in this thread.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here and why you think young heterosexual guys prefer Locke, Sawyer, Desmond, Sayid and Eko over Jack.