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momo
04-20-2006, 07:36 AM
Revelation has just aired here in Oz. In the promos for this "episode" JJ Abrams claimed he would reveal a secret about Lost exclusively to Australia. Apparently that secret is that he has hidden a reference to Lost in Mission Impossible 3.
He also revealed that Hurley may or may not be the only one to have survived the crash.
Please don't let it all be in his head!
(For the record, I have seen "Dave". I'm up to speed with you guys in America :) )

GotLost4815162342
04-20-2006, 07:54 AM
If Hurley is the only one to have survived the crash, then how does that explain all the other people on the island? Are they all clones of dead passengers? I difinitively heard, on the lost podcast that this was not all in one persons head. Which is the only plausible way I can think of to explain this if Hurley is the only survivor. Do you have any links or documentation of this spoiler?

jennday
04-20-2006, 07:58 AM
Didn't he say that Hurley may or may not have been the only person on the island that was in the mental hospital?? That's what I thought he said and I figured that was for the Aussies because over here we are behind and won't see who was in the hospital with Hurley for a while :)

mj
04-20-2006, 08:26 AM
Revelation has just aired here in Oz. In the promos for this "episode" JJ Abrams claimed he would reveal a secret about Lost exclusively to Australia. Apparently that secret is that he has hidden a reference to Lost in Mission Impossible 3.
He also revealed that Hurley may or may not be the only one to have survived the crash.
Please don't let it all be in his head!
(For the record, I have seen "Dave". I'm up to speed with you guys in America :) )


If this is true and JJ has said this, I just don't think I am going to continue watching. This answer would really be a bummer for the show. Does this mean that all the characters are in Hurley's head? This reminds me of the movies, A Beautiful Mind, Identity and Fight Club. I am going to be so P***ED, having invested time watching this.

GotLost4815162342
04-20-2006, 08:30 AM
Damon Lindeloff, in a podcast, made reference to having seen Identity, and claims to have not liked the movie at all. Not having liked the movie, I highly doubt there is any validity to this all being in one persons head. .

KGraham
04-20-2006, 08:47 AM
Didn't he say that Hurley may or may not have been the only person on the island that was in the mental hospital?? That's what I thought he said and I figured that was for the Aussies because over here we are behind and won't see who was in the hospital with Hurley for a while :)

Jennday, did you hear the same interview as Momo, perhaps there is some confusion on this thread whether JJ was referring to Hurley being the sole survivor or the only former patient of a mental hospital?

I think it has been clarified in interviews with the creative team before this point that the Island does not represent pergatory, and possibly also that the Island is not just all in someone's head... can anyone confirm?

It's not really logical for Hurley to be the sole survivor and all that has gone on is just his imagination working overtime - for one he wouldn't have lasted this long anyway, we know he can't hunt or fish and has relied on the others to help him make it this far.

jennday
04-20-2006, 09:30 AM
Jennday, did you hear the same interview as Momo, perhaps there is some confusion on this thread whether JJ was referring to Hurley being the sole survivor or the only former patient of a mental hospital?

I think it has been clarified in interviews with the creative team before this point that the Island does not represent pergatory, and possibly also that the Island is not just all in someone's head... can anyone confirm?

It's not really logical for Hurley to be the sole survivor and all that has gone on is just his imagination working overtime - for one he wouldn't have lasted this long anyway, we know he can't hunt or fish and has relied on the others to help him make it this far.

Well if Momo is in Australia, I'm guessing it was, because JJ was hosting 'Revelation' on the channel that airs it here in Australia. I'm pretty sure JJ implied Hurley was not the only survivor that had been in a institution, not that he was the only survivor of the crash, as a whole. Usually I lurk, but I know how we can all get with Lost and didn't want people to think that JJ said something he didn't :)

jon419
04-20-2006, 09:24 PM
He also revealed that Hurley may or may not be the only one to have survived the crash.


You do realize that saying "may or may not" means he told you absolutley nothing. This was not a reveal at all. That is like saying "I am going to reveal to you that Jack may or may not be gay". I have not told you anything.

myothercarisflight815
04-20-2006, 09:27 PM
This should also be in the spoiler section if it really a big thing. It's not like he's going spell the whole show out.

Accidental Tourist
04-20-2006, 10:05 PM
Lost hintage in MI:3, eh? Great, I bet this is a ploy to get Lost fans to rush out and buy the DVD.

I don't think I'll buy the "It's all in Hurley's mind" theory just yet. Why would the powers that be bother showing us the backstories of people who may or may not exist? Why get us involved in their lives if they may or may not be a figment of Hugo's imagination?

TheHade
04-25-2006, 07:47 AM
He also revealed that Hurley may or may not be the only one to have survived the crash.
Is this available online anywhere?

momo
04-25-2006, 05:53 PM
I tried finding what he said online, but to no avail. I'm pretty positive that he did say Hurley may or may not be the only one to have survived flight 815, but jennday, you've got me questioning what I heard now. I figured it wasn't a big deal anyway, simply an allusion to the upcoming episode "Dave" that plays with the notion it is all in Hurleys head.
Jon419, I agree, it's not a real reveal at all. The revelation the promos talked about was the reference to Lost in MI3.
Jennday, I think we need backup from another Australian to really figure out what he said.
(Incidentally, what episode was it that we first found out Hurley had been in a mental institution? Because if we didn't already know before the airing of Revelation, it would make no sense for JJ to say Hurley isn't the only survivor to have spent time institutionalised.)

TheHade
04-26-2006, 06:28 AM
I tried finding what he said online, but to no avail.
That's too bad ... but thanks a lot for having a look around.

Incidentally, what episode was it that we first found out Hurley had been in a mental institution? Because if we didn't already know before the airing of Revelation, it would make no sense for JJ to say Hurley isn't the only survivor to have spent time institutionalised.
That would have been the first season episode "Numbers" (At the latest! Wasn't there some other clue in an episode before that? I can't remember it right now.). So I think he might have said something about Hurley not being the only survivor to have been at Santa Rosa because I sure as hell hope that it's not all just in Hurley's head!
[Edit: spelling]

Occono
04-26-2006, 10:28 AM
I guess he was referring to
Libby being in the mental hospital too.

TheLadyLovesLost
04-26-2006, 10:49 AM
I wouldn't like to believe that it is all in Hurleys head....surely that would be a real cop out and a disappointment to al!! Very unlikely outcome I think. :undecide:

I can't wait to hear what the Lost reference in MI:III is! But I am not curious enough to rush out and watch the film, but I hope someone posts it somewhere on here when
they find out! :smile:

kikin444
04-26-2006, 11:21 PM
I want to see MI3 to discover the clue

SteveinNC
04-26-2006, 11:31 PM
Oh, they better not go there. All in Hurley's head. I pray the writer's are more original than that. And after investing so much time watching and discussing with you good people, it would be a huge disappointment.

What if......ALL the survivors are in the same hospital in Santa Rosa? Just trying to think of why they MIGHT all be on the mental ward. Or perhaps Santa Rosa is not JUST a mental institution. Perhaps it's more? Dharma related?

Nah...I have no idea what I'm talking about....I am so LOST. All I know is they better not go "it's all in Hurley's head".

momo
04-27-2006, 01:45 AM
That would have been the first season episode "Numbers" (At the latest! Wasn't there some other clue in an episode before that? I can't remember it right now.). So I think he might have said something about Hurley not being the only survivor to have been at Santa Rosa becuase I sure as hell hope that it's not all just in Hurley's head!

We didn't find out in Numbers, we weren't sure at that point how he knew Lenny. I remember there was a lot of speculation about whether Hurley had been in the mental hospital, but we didn't know for sure until sometime in season 2 I think.

TheHade
04-27-2006, 07:09 AM
I want to see MI3 to discover the clue
Please share it with us later. But don't get your hopes too far up because J.J. Abrams called it only a reference (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=942769&postcount=7), instead of a clue or a hint. :( Still, it might be the best thing about the movie! :)

We didn't find out in Numbers, we weren't sure at that point how he knew Lenny. I remember there was a lot of speculation about whether Hurley had been in the mental hospital, but we didn't know for sure until sometime in season 2 I think.
I see, I only signed up here after the second season already had started. When I watched "Numbers" I always thought Hurley had been a patient because Dr. Curtis asked what Hurley was doing back at Santa Rosa (Considering the way he was portrayed at home with his mother he didn't look like a nurse or a doctor to me.) and said he didn't remember Hurley and Lenny being that close, because of the way he asked the nurse for Lenny. And I still think there was some other clue even before that episode which made me wonder about Hurley's mental health.

Fishy76
05-23-2006, 05:25 PM
But don't get your hopes too far up because J.J. Abrams called it only a reference (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=942769&postcount=7), instead of a clue or a hint. :(


This probably isn't it, but while I was watching MI:III, there was a scene wherein I was like, "Where have I seen this being done before?" Then it hit me.

Remember in season 1 when Jack and Kate saw Charlie hanging from a tree (because of Ethan), and when they got him down, Jack tried reviving him for a good amount of time. It looked like Charlie wasn't going to make it. Jack was so mad and couldn't accept that Charlie's gone so instead of just pumping Charlie's heart, he was already pounding on it with his clenched fist, while crying. Then, as we all know, Charlie regains consciousness.

The exact same thing happened in MI:III, when Tom's character's girlfriend looks to be dying. Probably not the reference, but its a cool similarity between two of JJ's babies. :)

Porcelain
05-26-2006, 04:25 PM
if hurley was the only one to surive............then...why is he making these people up? and why are they connected?

adam8023
05-26-2006, 04:28 PM
^^^It's probably all a joke from J.J. I respect his vision though.

Porcelain
05-26-2006, 04:41 PM
so do i but.....still kinda of a crappy joke

TheHade
06-01-2006, 07:28 AM
He also revealed that Hurley may or may not be the only one to have survived the crash. Is this available online anywhere? I finally found it at http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2721459 (Beware: It loads slowly!) and after watching it I, fortunately for the sake of the series :biggrin:, have to tell you, momo, that you remembered the quote incorrectly and that it really was the way jennday said at www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=932511&postcount=3 (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=932511&postcount=3)!
Whew, what a relief! ;)
Don't worry, momo, JJ chose his words a little strangely; if I hadn't known what to listen for I probably would have misunderstood him as well.
Anyway, thanx a lot for notifying us about this nice special (I love the way he pulls out his Oceanic-tickets at the end! :cool:)!

momo
06-03-2006, 03:02 AM
Sorry about that guys. I was wrong.:redface:

TheHade
06-03-2006, 02:14 PM
Sorry about that guys. I was wrong.:redface:
No worries, mate! J.J. chose his words a little ambiguously and you didn't have a chance to watch it again. Thanx a lot for telling us about that special in the first place!
By the way, if anybody around here has the means to save or record that video drop me a PM, please!

Heroic Poser
06-03-2006, 02:22 PM
The LOST reference is In MI3 there is a sheet of paper on the bosses desk. It has a small Dharma logo on it and is mostly covered with random pieces of paper. It says "Lost Spoi" (Rest of text covered up) next to the logo.

EarlhamGirl
06-23-2006, 07:48 PM
I am going to be so P***ED, having invested time watching this.

I know how you feel! ;) That would be so cliche! :rolleyes:

lh89
06-24-2006, 07:32 AM
I'm going to sound really stupid, but what is revelation? We don't seem to have this in the UK!