Worthy . . . interesting. Worthy of what? Clearly she wasn't on the 'good' list, but worthy of what?

Changing? Which she kinda did, by not killing Henry.

Ya, I think Goodwin saw the goodness deep inside of her and wanted her to change. He was definitely disappointed when she found him out, but I don't think that he really wanted to kill her, as Henry said.

Changing? Which she kinda did, by not killing Henry.

Agreed, worthy of redemption... or in other words, is a 'good' person.
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but I don't think that he really wanted to kill her, as Henry said.

yeah, but i can't blame her for killing him. she couldn't have known.

I agree. The underlying question is...why are the Others taking the "good" ones? The children, Claire (though that one has a host of other issues), the ones who have been taken from the Tailies...what is this weeding out of the "good" ones about? Do they taint the "experiment?" Are they being "saved" from the island and brought into the fold?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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but I don't think that he really wanted to kill her, as Henry said.

yeah, but i can't blame her for killing him. she couldn't have known.

Rember in The Other 48 Days (I think), The scene when Goodwin woke up early and was watching Anna sleeping. Very Creepy!!!!:eek2: Yes I guess he did like her.

Ana would have been good for the "others" because she doesn`t think for herself. She reacts to situations without thinking about the consequenses. Just the kind of person that`s "good" for brainwashing, following orders, and not questioning what is right and wrong. The "others" want people who will follow their leader without question. She followed Jack`s Dad without any questions, didn`t even know his name. So worthy--yea, of being used for whatever they are doing.

Worthy of being taken for their 'higher purpose'? It just struck me that the perception with Henry and Goodwin are that to be on the 'list' and to be abducted, is to be worthy. This good list/bad list thing makes me nuts.

I think Goodwin had a soft spot for Ana and was trying to save her by convincing his friends she was redeemable or "good" for their purposes. Obviously she blew that when she killed Goodwin. I was surprised that Fenry knew all that though. He obviously was in close contact with Goodwin since the beginning.

I took it to mean that he thought she was worthy of becoming part of their group. They took the people they "knew" to be good right away. Once they had them, why didn't Goodwyn just leave. I think he was sticking around in the hopes that he could bring Ana Lucia, and possibly Eko, around. However, I think that the whispers played a larger role in his death than we know. Through reading the whispers thread, I have come to the belief that the whispers can manipulate peoples actions through, for lack of a better word, subliminal messages. When AL shot Shannon, the whispers were telling her to shoot. Maybe the whispers were telling her to kill Goodwyn. The reason I think this is maybe Goodwyn was supposed to return to the Others after acquiring all 9 people that were on the "list". When he didn't, "He" might have seen that as a failure as NotHenry called it, and been very unforgiving.

Furthermore, I am thinking this is looking a lot like a game of chess (or backgammon if you prefer). It seems as though we have quite a few pawns (losties), some stronger pieces like knights and bishops (the Others, however many groups there are), then you have the King piece (the protected secrets of the island - Him, "?", numbers, etc.). I think "Him" is one of the players of the game. Who he is playing against is anyone's guess. My stab would be Nature (mother-, human-, etc.)

Here's a even more interesting theory. The Others take only the good ones. They had Claire...Had her. Yet they were going to take the baby and kill her. They had no interest in keeping her at all.

So Claire isnt one of the good ones.....why?

I don't believe Goodwin had a soft spot for AL at all...in fact, I don't think he said anything nice about her, if he even reported to the Others at all while he was infiltrating the Tailies.
This is just another of Master Manipulator Henry's mind games, intended to get himself off the hook for awhile. And it worked, too. AL couldn't kill him.

i don't think it's about being "good", because Eko was on the good list, but he WAS a murderer...unless they considered that he had "changed"?

I'm just wondering how and when Goodwin communicated all of this information to Fenry and group.