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The healer Rose went to said that certain places healed certain people, and that a certain place of healing is not right for everyone.
What if the "good people" are people that can be healed by the island? We know Locke was healed by the island, and Fenry said he was a "good person."
That means the "bad people" have no reaction to the healing powers of the island. That is why Shannon still had asthma when they crashed, she was a bad person. If she were a "good person" the Others would have wanted her, and not have let her die.
The Others want these "good people" because they they won't die, and are powerful on the island. This could explain Ethan's apparent super-strengh; the island kept regenerating him.
This can be tied into Libby. If Libby was a "good person," the island could have healed her of her mental illness. Thus, she is sensitive to the healing of the island. I think when she got shot, she didn't die, instead when she was dying, the island healed her of the gunshots (like Wolverine in X2) and she will be fine again.
dpws500 05-08-2006, 11:26 AM I like it :biggrin:
Fenry did say something about it being debatable as to whether Ana-L was a good or bad person and so, if Fenry was to be believed, being good/bad isn't a permanent attribute (cf. Lockes temporary paralysis midway through season 1).
Perhaps, by the way you knowingly interact with the island, you are able to change the way in which the island interacts with you (if it heals you or not) and so your actions on the island are able to manifest themselves into the "goodness" and "badness" that the :others see.
zoraca 05-08-2006, 11:49 AM The Others want these "good people" because they they won't die, and are powerful on the island. This could explain Ethan's apparent super-strengh; the island kept regenerating him.
This can be tied into Libby. If Libby was a "good person," the island could have healed her of her mental illness. Thus, she is sensitive to the healing of the island. I think when she got shot, she didn't die, instead when she was dying, the island healed her of the gunshots (like Wolverine in X2) and she will be fine again.
But didn't Ethan die when he was shot?
But didn't Ethan die when he was shot?
Yeah, I think "good people" can be killed, if they are killed right away (like Lady Deathstrike in X2). Ethan was immidately killed, he had no time to be healed. Libby's injury isn't instantly fatal (especially if there was some Dharma cans underneath) so she may be dying for a while, then be healed.
^^ Yeah, good point about Goodwin saying AL could be changed, but was Goodwin talking about AL being changed into a good person? Or did he simply mean she could be changed to not be a killer.
Jack2 05-09-2006, 08:07 AM Why not take Jack i always considered him to be more of a "good" person then Locke. I mean he spent his live saving countless people and even performed a miracle in flashback Man of Science Man of Faith.
Sense his time on the island i haven't seen him doing anything that could be cosidered "bad" in the islands/others eyes.
The Island rewarding good people with health in the case of Locke & Rose is a interesting theory in terms of Ethan he doesn't have super human strength i think just caught Jack off guard as Jack pays him back in the next fight
The others only seem to want good people and i am curious how they define a "good" i mean Locke lied to Jack at the cost of Boones life. How can he still be considered a good person also Ethan killed scott/steve and abducted clare almost killed charlie
http://www.tv.com/story/story.html&story_id=4430
with the looming finalie just weeks away and the confrenation with the others will they tell us what a "good" person is
Not sure about Libby she could be after Hurleys money or maybe she is embarrassed
Steerpike 05-11-2006, 10:02 PM Smokie seems to be able to read people's memories and judge if they are "good" or "bad". Perhaps, if he isn't controlled by the Others, they need "good" people who can go on missions or do jobs in Smokie's territory without being attacked.
czardingus 05-12-2006, 12:59 AM With the ? hatch amping up the psychological research angle, I am beginning to think that good vs. bad indicates one's viability as a test subject. If this is true, then being "good" could mean:
1) You have a natural immunity to the sickness
2) You have "special" abilities (telekinesis, healing, precognition, etc.)
3) You were the product of an early Dharma/Hanso/Widmore eugenics program
4) You had a twin (separated at birth) that was raised on the island "utopia" - and you were the real world control subject
Other possibilities???
QuinceTheCarpenter 05-12-2006, 02:25 AM What the Others think is a "good" person may or may not relate to passing the Smokie scan test. They could be related, but they may not be. Smokie, according to Danielle, is a security system, so would logically be scanning for threats to the island.
In the whispers thread (link in my signature), we have discussed hints about remote viewing, which ties in with the idea of observation of experiments and the Pearl hatch, but if the Others have this kind of capability, why do they need to visit the Losties in person to make a list of who is "good" ? ... one hint is the whisper "eye to eye" (which sounds a bit like the Smokie scan). Maybe a remote viewer can look through the visitor's eyes and see something about each Lostie to determine their :"goodness."
One possibility that relates to experimentation and past experiences could be that a "good" person is one who has not experienced death first hand. Maybe this is needed so that a naive response to fatal trama may be observed. Almost all the main characters have killed or feel responsible for someone's death ... Locke has not (as far as we know). If this is true, then perhaps Ethan was so desperate to get Claire back, that he was willing to lose his "good" status by killing (and thus be rejected from his society).
I don't know. Any definition of "good" that includes Ethan and Fenry, but also the innocent children from the Tail section has to be pretty warped. Good genes?
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