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3pod
05-11-2006, 02:21 AM
Libby leaves Hurly to get blankets.......Day
Libby gets shot..........Night
Hurley starts looking for Libby..............Day Where has Hurley been all night??/?

Sawyer/Kate leave Hatch to get Heroin..........Night
Sawyer/Kate enter Sawyers tent.............Day It took that long to get to the beach??? Shouldn't they have been in a bit of a hurry?????????

Also,
1. Last year Locke saw a vision of the Beechcraft craching while standing near the hatch. He and Boone get there pretty quick. The Beechcraft wreckage is pretty near to top of the Hatch, yet it seemed to take Locke and Eko an awfully long time hike there.

2 Anyone who entered to work the Pearl over the years would have seen the wreckage.

fourthpoliceman
05-11-2006, 02:22 AM
Yeah, I noticed that too. But maybe, the timing on the island is just tough for viewers.

ilgandy
05-11-2006, 02:22 AM
I don't think its anything other than just bad continuity. As for anyone else going to Pearl I would have to say it hasn't been visited in quite some time.

myothercarisflight815
05-11-2006, 02:26 AM
It's often that way. Kind of distracting, but I guess they had to figure out dream time.

penyours
05-11-2006, 02:30 AM
yeah the contant flipping back and forth between night and day was distracting, and I also had the feeling that the beechcraft was close to the hatch, didn't Locke start losing his ability to walk in S1 close to the hatch, but he still managed to limp to the beechcraft?

bringerofchill
05-11-2006, 02:42 AM
yeah the contant flipping back and forth between night and day was distracting, and I also had the feeling that the beechcraft was close to the hatch, didn't Locke start losing his ability to walk in S1 close to the hatch, but he still managed to limp to the beechcraft?

The first thing i thought when they got near the beechcraft was the fact that locke was able to walk. so it was a bad oversight by the writers or there was something causing it before. and i have faith in th writers so i'm thinking its important that he couldn't walk before and could now.

dietcoke
05-11-2006, 06:29 AM
I agree with all about the night/day thing. Something seemed off. It was supposed to take Sawyer 20 minutes to get the heroin. But it was night in the very beginning of the ep when they went to the hatch, correct? I need to re-watch the ep, but last night, my mind thought that maybe Jack told Sawyer to get the heroin the next day. I also think Sawyer had a different shirt on when they were in the hatch than when Jack burned his book. Although I don't know why Sawyer would "pack" a shirt for the trek to the hatch. :confused:

Baileysdad
05-11-2006, 07:35 AM
Keep in mind...I am sure the Pearl has another entrance much as the Swan did...the ground cover existed for both and I am sure there is a doorway to it out there close by...

uneekwahn
05-11-2006, 07:47 AM
perhaps the island didn't want locke to climb up because he would have seen the circle and found the hatch?

lost34
05-11-2006, 07:51 AM
I am so glad that someone wrote about this because it bothered me as well. I just thought I must have missed something. The writers know how much each scene is scrutinized; they wouldn't make a mistake as big as that. I didn't tape the episode, so someone will have to go back and watch it and take notes.

mbsieve
05-11-2006, 07:54 AM
right off the bat the show was off to a weird start. when jack pulled the gun on sawyer demanding weapons it was daytime. john then decides to tell jack that ana lucia has a motive so they head back to the hatch. when they arrive it is in the dead of nite. that really threw me. maybe the hatch is a long walk from the beach....but it just seemed that the timeline was out of place a bit without any explanation...

BlemiChic
05-11-2006, 09:46 AM
When Michael is in the hatch with Ana Lucia at the end of "TFTR" Jack is with Kate trying to get the guns from Sawyer. They're on the beach and it's clearly daytime. Locke then tells Jack about Henry trying to kill Ana Lucia so presumably they head back to the hatch. AT the beginning of "?" it's night time. Eko wakes up from his dream in the middle of the night and Jack and the others are trecking back to the hatch with torches, and it's clearly night time. After they get to the hatch, and Michael tells them Henry left 20 minutes ago, Eko and Locke take off and it's daytime again. What gives?

imailicrazy
05-11-2006, 09:51 AM
I don't know. Because Hurley was still looking for Libby for their picnic and it was during the day. He gave no indication that he had been looking for her all night.

John Doe
05-11-2006, 09:59 AM
I noticed the same thing... I can't imagine that could be a production mistake as its way too obvious. Also, after Eko and Locke leave, doesn't Sawyer leave to get the heroine, telling jack to give him 20 mins to return? The beach can't be that far from the hatch to allow it to be in the middle of the day by the time they get there...

There is no way i can think of to resolve that timeline to allow it to be PITCH BLACK in the middle of that whole sequence. So... What could it mean?

acerbaluna
05-11-2006, 10:01 AM
yeah, this stuff drives me CRAZY.. grr. i always notice this stuff, it's just so blaringly obivous (even though i'm always missing most of the easter eggs in the show.. ha).

ImSoLOST714
05-11-2006, 10:04 AM
I noticed that too and in other episodes. I thought that maybe Eko had the dream the night before it all happened and then we were just lead into the next day, but I'm not sure.

sickotriz
05-11-2006, 10:12 AM
I have to agree, time was wonky in this episode...

And then you have the fact that Eko+Locke slept. Were their events going on simultaneously with the events in the Swan? We saw Locke viewing them once they turn on the monitors...

"I figured, hey, why let a $20,000 dollar watch go to waste which is ridiculous since time doesn't matter on a damn island!"
-Michael from "House of the Rising Sun"

MinnieVanMommie
05-11-2006, 10:15 AM
I have to say my daughter picked up on that right away...I was just kinda going with the flow...The days and nights were totally flying by on this show....and I could not get the idea that Hurley didn't find Libby until the next day

jessieslost
05-11-2006, 12:01 PM
My husband and I were both really confused about the timing on this episode. It did seem really odd that it started in the middle of the night, when the last epi ended in broad daylight. ANd then when everybody got back to the hatch, it seemed to be daylight again. I can't imagine Jack let Libby lie there suffering overnight, and then told Sawyer to get the heroin. I'm so LOST!!

Islandgurl
05-11-2006, 12:15 PM
I am with everyone on this too! I was so confused about the daylight and then its night! What gives?

MaggieRyanJr
05-11-2006, 12:23 PM
It seemed pretty logical to me at the time...

zee1116
05-11-2006, 12:28 PM
I am with everyone on this too! I was so confused about the daylight and then its night! What gives?

I noticed that too and I think it was definitely intentional being that nothing on this show is by mistake or accident. I think that it's important and we just don't know why yet. Time generally passes really slowly on the show so it stood out that it was night and then day all of a sudden. It was definitely night when Michael fell out of the hatch and when Eko woke up from his dream and then bright sunny daylight when they went to look for the ? so to me I think something was happening there.

Drake
05-11-2006, 12:32 PM
That was pretty creepy. Anybody keeping tabs on how many times this has happened so far?

RamessesIX
05-11-2006, 12:43 PM
I noticed that too and I think it was definitely intentional being that nothing on this show is by mistake or accident. I think that it's important and we just don't know why yet. Time generally passes really slowly on the show so it stood out that it was night and then day all of a sudden. It was definitely night when Michael fell out of the hatch and when Eko woke up from his dream and then bright sunny daylight when they went to look for the ? so to me I think something was happening there.

I'm sorry, I can't agree. I think the writers want to set certain scenes at nighttime because it's "sexier" or more dramatic, or whatever, so they just do, regardless of how that fits in the established narrative. I ranted about this at length in the "Rate this episode!" thread, so here I'll just say that it's sloppy, amateur, and completely unworthy of one of the best shows on TV.

If you wanted a No-Prize, you could, I suppose, make the case that they are so far south of the equator that night only lasts a few hours. I still don't think it accounts for the way it gets pitch dark, immediately, when that's convenient for the writers.

KLJ
05-11-2006, 12:46 PM
I noticed that too and I think it was definitely intentional being that nothing on this show is by mistake or accident.
this is the biggest fallacy on these message boards.. there are plenty of mistakes and accidents on this show.. tptb have talked about them in the past..

lostgurl
05-11-2006, 12:56 PM
When Michael is in the hatch with Ana Lucia at the end of "TFTR" Jack is with Kate trying to get the guns from Sawyer. They're on the beach and it's clearly daytime. Locke then tells Jack about Henry trying to kill Ana Lucia so presumably they head back to the hatch. AT the beginning of "?" it's night time. Eko wakes up from his dream in the middle of the night and Jack and the others are trecking back to the hatch with torches, and it's clearly night time. After they get to the hatch, and Michael tells them Henry left 20 minutes ago, Eko and Locke take off and it's daytime again. What gives?

It must have gotten dark on the hike back to the hatch, they probably had to go slow because of Locke.. that's my best guess anyway.

At the beginning of "?" it is nighttime, Eko wakes up from the dream and catches up to Locke/Sawyer/Kate/Jack. When Locke and Eko take off to look for Henry it is still night time though.. just rewatched that part and it is night. Eko has a flashlight and he headbutts Locke, they rest for a while, wake up and walk to the plane, then they sleep(again) and Locke has the Yemi/cliff dream. It all happens in the same night.

imailicrazy
05-11-2006, 12:58 PM
It seemed pretty logical to me at the time...

Since we're all really confused by this and asking for answers or theories, would you care to elaborate?

Thanks:)

sickotriz
05-11-2006, 01:16 PM
It must have gotten dark on the hike back to the hatch, they probably had to go slow because of Locke.. that's my best guess anyway.

At the beginning of "?" it is nighttime, Eko wakes up from the dream and catches up to Locke/Sawyer/Kate/Jack. When Locke and Eko take off to look for Henry it is still night time though.. just rewatched that part and it is night. Eko has a flashlight and he headbutts Locke, they rest for a while, wake up and walk to the plane, then they sleep(again) and Locke has the Yemi/cliff dream. It all happens in the same night.

Was it dark when Michael came dramatically stumbling out of the Swan Station doors of the Hatch? I can't remember and I'm at work so I can't check.

lostgurl
05-11-2006, 01:28 PM
Was it dark when Michael came dramatically stumbling out of the Swan Station doors of the Hatch? I can't remember and I'm at work so I can't check.

yes, and at the same time that locke/sawyer/eko etc. get there... they go in and find libby and ana, talk about henry, and then Eko and Locke leave to track him and it's still night when they leave.

elfdream
05-11-2006, 01:38 PM
I think it had to do with the heavy rains that were happening at the time and they had to shoot scenes whenver they could in between downpours.

My niece lives on Ouahu and she was making jokes about 'forty days and forty nights' of rain! It got pretty bad there for a while and filming on the show was interrupted more than once.

MinnieVanMommie
05-11-2006, 05:35 PM
elfdream ...that would explain a lot of differences in the day night discrepencies...Thank you as usual :-)

Heroic Poser
05-11-2006, 11:02 PM
I noticed that too and I think it was definitely intentional being that nothing on this show is by mistake or accident. I think that it's important and we just don't know why yet. Time generally passes really slowly on the show so it stood out that it was night and then day all of a sudden. It was definitely night when Michael fell out of the hatch and when Eko woke up from his dream and then bright sunny daylight when they went to look for the ? so to me I think something was happening there.

Except for the mans hand trying to get the horses' attention, the car driving in the back field during Ana and Goodwins standoff, the record player changing from wood paneling to tin, the lamp changing, Jack's X-ray date, the mural changes, etc.
Stuff happens.
BUT, after saying that...I think last night was enormously obvious that something was up.

debispretty
05-11-2006, 11:15 PM
Oh my i have missed you all.. havent been here since January (STUPID JOB, wish i could quit and watch lost full time)

They dont do day and night by mistake COME ON, but i think that it was to confuse us. i cant follow it!!

Ladybug_ocean
05-12-2006, 03:11 PM
I wonder if it's intentional. In Dave, there were those discrepancies between the taking of the photo and the photo itself, most notably the daytime/nighttime. And we're all aware of the recurring themes - good/evil, black/white, perhaps day/night as well.

lostgurl
05-12-2006, 03:15 PM
There's a thread about this already.

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=48524

Witchking
05-12-2006, 03:21 PM
Keep in mind...I am sure the Pearl has another entrance much as the Swan did...the ground cover existed for both and I am sure there is a doorway to it out there close by...I hope not. With Eko going to all the trouble to pack all the materials he found in the Pearl I imagine he would have explored all of the bunker he could find. We were shown nothing more than a ladder and an observation room. Perhaps there are toiletry facilities (I rather hope there are), but beyond that we were shown nothing more. I am not ready to make the leap of faith that there is more than we've been shown.

Tiny Time Machine
05-12-2006, 03:51 PM
^^^i love your kate-has-a-choco-gasm avatar haha

yeah, the day/night stuff was odd
it didn't bother me too much though

KyleSBeaver
05-12-2006, 03:58 PM
In Dues Ex Machina...

Locke wakes Boone up before dawn and they go to find the beachcraft.

Somepoint in the day, they find it, Boone climbs up, it falls.

A limping John carries Boone back to the caves.

John goes to the hatch at night and the light comes on.


In Two For The Road/ "?"

Jack and gang want the guns from Sawyer in the evening. John tells Jack about Ana, they start to head back to the hatch.

Michael shoots Ana and Libby. Jack arrives 20 minutes later. Night.

Eko and Locke go to look for Henry. Theyget to the beachcraft and sleep. Night.

Sawyer and Kate go to get the heroin. Night.

Sawyer and Kate arrive at Sawyer's tent. Day.

Locke and Ecko wake up. Day.


It's somewhat believable that the beachcraft is more than a day's walk. Only because Locke and Boone started before dawn, find it during the day, and got back after sunset. So they just had a full day. Ecko and Locke start in the night and find it in the same night. Plus, it could take them longer to get back with Lock limping.

corvin12xu
05-12-2006, 03:59 PM
I have stopped carring about day a night long ago as it seems to happen randomly so much that unless the characters notice then I figure there is little concern.

But yes I agree it seems that a lot of things happen at dusk and dawn as light goes to night and vice versa quite often.

acmb
05-12-2006, 04:38 PM
IMHO there's no way that type of inconsistency was unintentional. They are trying to tell us something with that. I think it all keeps going back to the "severe forgetfulness" the Losties seem to suffer from. People fail to mention important/vital things to one another all the time. They spend some time on a subject than move along and it's like it never happened, they never mention it again. The medical hatch is a clear example of that. It's so important, how come nobody ever mentioned it again? It seems like their consciousness is being messed with somehow and they skip from subject to subject and from day to night and whatever apparently without noticing. Ok, I'm rambling and going off-topic now, but this "forgetfulness" thing keeps bugging me.

The Walrus
05-15-2006, 09:48 PM
This has to be a production 'necessity' glitch of some kind. Rain in Hawaii and Two for the Road secrecy sound like good explanations. There is a bizarre shift from sunshine on the beach when Sawyer discovers his gun missing and they rush off to the hatch, to them arriving there, still arguing, in the dead of NIGHT with torches and Michael tumbling wounded out of the hatch. Having the shootings happen at night clicks with Eko waking from his dream and going after Locke (he shows up just as they enter the hatch). It DOESN"T mesh with the ongoing picnic scenario -and especially is distracting when it shifts back AGAIN midstream as Sawyer and Kate run off for the heroin and arrive at his digs in broad daylight at the same time Eko and Locke are trekking off into the night after Henry and the Question mark.

The whole thing -from Michael shooting the women to Jack injecting the heroin -takes 90 minutes tops in island time - not a day-night-day cycle of 12 to 24 hours. It had me shaking my head and destroyed LOST's "grand illusion" that they usually achieve with me. :rolleyes:

nuno2
05-15-2006, 09:55 PM
remember in the pilot, when charlie and kate and jack heading to the cockpit and it starts raining and gets dark. Charlie asks if its weird that it just turned from a nice day into dark and then rain. i think theres something else to it and i think thats what we gona find out in the next epi thats coming up, thats why everyone is in shock i think the sun is comin up and down or somthing like that. its happened more then once, so something to it.

meira
05-16-2006, 02:38 AM
Yeah, something is going on alright. I noticed it when Kate was following Jack asking for a shower and it was still light and next thing its pitch black with a food drop and a flashing beacon. This day into automatic night has gone on throughout LOST, and I started to think back to the pilot and how we never saw anything crash and how everyone was seeming placed, and I have wondered if this is some experiment that causes them all to black out, or be unconscious or under some hypnosleep. It bothered me how Libby was almost asleep-like and then all of a sudden comes awake spitting blood. Something felt really off to me with her. Someone mentioned peoples clothes changing...and I noted AL has never seemed to change out of that white t-shirt with the low jeans and belt..ever! And something is striking me off with Kate. She looked like a boatbilly in the last two epi's, with some awful oversized dirty long sleeved shirt on and her hair was filthy greasy hanging in strings. Yet AL hair always seemed clean and shined but she never hit the shower as far as I know. Im off subject here, but I am wondering just what mind experiments or TIME experiments are going on here??

Save The Humans
05-16-2006, 02:48 AM
Maybe it's like "The Truman Show," where they make it day or night to suit their purposes! :laughing:

sickotriz
05-16-2006, 08:25 AM
You know what? I think we might be on to something here (or maybe not, it could be that working towards the end of the season, and with all the rain it has made it so that they have to shoot when they can to finish the show in time!)

If we ARE onto something, it makes me think. I have seen somewhere around here that someone mentioned that the producers have said that "There is something important in the pilot episode that everyone is overlooking". Now, I have not actually seen this quote myself, and when the person posted that here in one of the topics, I know another member mentioned that they would like a link to this statement.

Now, if we ARE missing something from the pilot, it might be this bizarre time weirdness. Someone mentioned a few posts back Charlie's quote about day turning into night and how weird it was. At the time, I just thought he was being funny, talking about the sudden rains. And I know there have been theories about the time of departure for the flight and the amount of time that passes while they are in the air, and how fast it gets dark on the island after the crash has been mentioned.

Then you take Danielle's words about what her science team was studying (Time, although this scene was cut) and things start adding up.

I don't believe this show is about time travel (and I think it's a theory that the writers have shot down), but there may be general weirdness with time going on. They could have been being tricky with their words, as there may be time anomolies, but it still wouldn't count as time travel persay.

T.I.M.E. - The Inner Mind's Eye! (I remember an album with this as the title, cool acronym that has stuck with me for many years)!

Just some thoughts running through my head, carry on!

Amber
05-16-2006, 08:36 AM
remember in the pilot, when charlie and kate and jack heading to the cockpit and it starts raining and gets dark. Charlie asks if its weird that it just turned from a nice day into dark and then rain. i think theres something else to it and i think thats what we gona find out in the next epi thats coming up, thats why everyone is in shock i think the sun is comin up and down or somthing like that. its happened more then once, so something to it.

Yes! I agree 100%. Charlie wouldn't have mentioned it if it didn't play into the plot somehow right? (*crosses fingers*) I can't wait to see what they're all staring at next ep.

Good Twin
05-16-2006, 09:07 AM
I think these ideas go hand and hand with the ideas mentioned in the Hatch Door thread. There are things that don't make sense. Things that are suddenly different, etc.

Amber
05-16-2006, 09:33 AM
I think these ideas go hand and hand with the ideas mentioned in the Hatch Door thread. There are things that don't make sense. Things that are suddenly different, etc.

Yes, many inconsistencies! I think that everyone who checks out this thread would be interested in the Hatch Door thread http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=48400

Also discussed there is the changing of the counter in the hatch kitchen area, Jack's eye colour changing in certain episodes, and the safe/armoury door switching from a swing door to a slide door. There's definitely something going on, and I think we are supposed to notice these inconsistencies.

Lost_In_NJ
05-16-2006, 11:39 AM
HEY! Here's a thought! Maybe pressing the button every 108 minutes turns the daylight on and off??? hahaha Just kidding. I'm as puzzled as the lot of you.

Bugzzie
05-16-2006, 12:16 PM
What if time is actually speeded up on the island. A day is not necessarily 24 hours. Would that have anything to do with the possibility of a fountain of youth correlation with the children being taken. Could the "sickness" be rapid aging?

Funny how a show can be so obsessive. Gotta luv it!!

Bongo Fury
05-16-2006, 12:19 PM
It's somewhat believable that the beachcraft is more than a day's walk.Except that in last years season finale, Sayid and Charlie were running after Danielle, and stopped to rest at the Beechcraft. It's not like junkie Charlie could run for an hour before needing a rest (not many heroine addicts are running 10k races). So in that case, the Beechcraft was a lot closer than it appears to be at other times. IMO, the simplest answer is the most likely answer, the person responsible for continuity on the show is doing a poor job.

EvanAgee
05-16-2006, 12:26 PM
How do we know that it was night when Libby was shot? I don't recall seeing anything going on outside at that same point.

Cluck
05-16-2006, 12:43 PM
Something else to note - is that the whole trip time from when Jack Locke and Kate left to get the guns from Sawyer to the time when they got back to the hatch - that whole trip back and forth could not have taken longer than 108 minutes because the button wasn't pushed. -- unless Michael pushed it??

The night day thing bothered me too -- but a possible explanation might be that when they were coming back to the hatch, it was cloudy or something, so the jungle was dark and that is why they needed the torches? who knows -

I don't usually care too much about the inconsistencies, but in this episode, that night / day switching was just too much and drove me crazy.

hollisterbumx3
05-16-2006, 04:48 PM
wow i noticed that too. It was kinda weird. But I ignored it.

so maybe Libby left at like, lets say 6:30 and it took until 7:00 to get to the hatch. She finds the blankets, gets shot at 7:15 and isn't found by Jack and the gang until 7:45 ; when its probably dark. Meanwhile, Hurley searched for the wine until 7:45, got it, and came back to not find Libby. He probably thought she stood her up so he went to bed.

Mr. Eko and Locke had a head start, they started at the hatch, not the beach. It did take them sorta a long time anyway.

Danny
05-16-2006, 05:34 PM
Good points Hollister.

I don't believe i've enjoyed a thread so much as i have this one in a LONG time lol. Maybe we can all just agree to "blame Damon" :24:

nuno2
05-16-2006, 05:45 PM
wow i noticed that too. It was kinda weird. But I ignored it.

so maybe Libby left at like, lets say 6:30 and it took until 7:00 to get to the hatch. She finds the blankets, gets shot at 7:15 and isn't found by Jack and the gang until 7:45 ; when its probably dark. Meanwhile, Hurley searched for the wine until 7:45, got it, and came back to not find Libby. He probably thought she stood her up so he went to bed.

Mr. Eko and Locke had a head start, they started at the hatch, not the beach. It did take them sorta a long time anyway.

i doubt he went to bed and thought she stood him up due to the fact that when jack asked micheal how long ago was it that it happened, mike said 20 mins or so. and jack was in the hatch not 2 long before the whole shooting thing happened, if im correct.

Also the whole thing about jacks eyes changing color in some epis is weird, same thing with fenry he had one green eye and a blue eye in that got milk scene. And in the pilot notice jack is looking at one side of the island and its quiet and then u see another angle and you hear screaming almost as if everyone woke up and the engines just went on at that point, or is it that we are seeing two alternate worlds as they happen at the same time? weird but hey its lost, lol.

Weeping_Buddha
05-16-2006, 06:35 PM
I believe that the Eko/Locke plot was not simultaneous with the ones in the Hatch, as someone have pointed.
Regarding the 20 minutes turning to day was not an error. They were probably on a twilight, and during a twilight if you look west (the direction where the sun sets) you'll see nothing but darkness. The twilight becomes day really fast. 20 minutes is enough for total darkness to become bright.

Walt Disney
05-16-2006, 06:57 PM
The quick transitions from day to night are definitely not a continuity error.

In the episode "Pilot" when Jack Kate and Charlie are searching for the nose of the plane Charlie says something like "Apocolyptic weather, day turning into night all of a sudden, where did we crash"

im paraphrasing alot but the writers obviously want us to know that there is either little daylight or the day and night cycle is much faster than normal. Much faster than earth time at least.

my guess is their on another planet which is not likely or they are far south and have very little daylight. Also being that far south might explain the polar bear. It coulda swam from antarctica or something.
What do you guys think?

fourthpoliceman
05-16-2006, 08:08 PM
I don't think there's anything to it in terms of the mythology of Lost, rather just production quirks. For example, In the Pilot - part 2, while the it was dusk on the beach and everyone was on the beach. The scene jumps to Kate stitching up Jack in broad day light.

Danny
05-16-2006, 08:37 PM
Well, i don't think it's a matter of skipping time, it's a matter of switching back and forth really weirdly like that, and no explanation of why hurley took so long to ask about Libby and stuff.

ForgivenTheWarlord
05-16-2006, 08:42 PM
I don't think there's anything to it in terms of the mythology of Lost, rather just production quirks. For example, In the Pilot - part 2, while the it was dusk on the beach and everyone was on the beach. The scene jumps to Kate stitching up Jack in broad day light.
The quick transitions from day to night are definitely not a continuity error.

In the episode "Pilot" when Jack Kate and Charlie are searching for the nose of the plane Charlie says something like "Apocolyptic weather, day turning into night all of a sudden, where did we crash"

im paraphrasing alot but the writers obviously want us to know that there is either little daylight or the day and night cycle is much faster than normal. Much faster than earth time at least.

my guess is their on another planet which is not likely or they are far south and have very little daylight. Also being that far south might explain the polar bear. It coulda swam from antarctica or something.
What do you guys think?

It's probably just a combination of these two. They knew that they were going to have continuity issues (being outside so often) so they listed it as one of the island's quirks. It IS an island quirk though because it was mentioned.

Laurieg
05-16-2006, 08:56 PM
Do any of the losties wear a watch? Is there an actual clock any where in any of the hatches?

I wonder if Dharma is some controling the light and dark and cutting hours off their day. They think they have been stranded for so many days. What if it isn't close to what they think?
Not sure what the purpose would be, but it seems like it is being done on purpose.

I have to say. There are ways around island weather. If they need it to be brite and sunny and it's dark and grey, then they bring in more spot lites.

waswere
05-16-2006, 09:26 PM
I think at least some of the losties keep track of the time and days that passes. rose had mentioned what day it was to bernard in SOS and that was just a few days prior on island time, right?

Bongo Fury
05-16-2006, 11:26 PM
my guess is their on another planet which is not likely or they are far south and have very little daylight.If they have short daylight, that means the nights will be longer. So they spent even more time fooling around in the bunker before they went to get the heroin for Libby. And if the days were less than 24 hours, someone would have mentioned something by now. IMO, you're trying to rationalize away the sloppy writing.

Also being that far south might explain the polar bear. It coulda swam from antarctica or something.There are no Polar Bears in Antarctica, they're only found in the Arctic (north).

tiaxrulesall
05-17-2006, 01:57 AM
-the light inconsistencies are most likely not part of the lost mythos, as they do not regularly apear, would have been comented on by characters at some point. occam's razor would generally tend to point us to the light inconsistencies being unintentional.

-As for a clock, they have jin's watch, as well as the giant timer in the hatch.

fourthpoliceman
05-17-2006, 02:01 AM
-the light inconsistencies are most likely not part of the lost mythos, as they do not regularly apear, would have been comented on by characters at some point. occam's razor would generally tend to point us to the light inconsistencies being unintentional.


Though I for the most part agree with you... Smokey doesn't appear regularily either. Ockam's razor doesn't apply here though.

ForgivenTheWarlord
05-17-2006, 02:16 AM
-the light inconsistencies are most likely not part of the lost mythos, as they do not regularly apear, would have been comented on by characters at some point.

CHARLIE: Hey guys, is this normal? Day turning into night, you know? End of the world type weather. Is this -- guys?

Shamu
05-17-2006, 01:49 PM
OK i couldnt bare to read the whole of this thread full of annoying people getting so easily confused so sorry if this has been said by someone else who was actually paying attention. Just because its dark in the hatch it doesnt mean that its night, the epi was only during one night when they went back to the hatch to find everyone all shot up and then the whole going for the heroine thing was the next day, its not hard! If you need more help: http://lost.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

Automission
05-17-2006, 02:41 PM
Well i honestly think there was a mitake with sawyers time. It wouldn't of taken him 20 mins, much longer, as it cant be a mistake because in whichever epi jack and sawyer play cards, jack leaves the beach during the day and its night when they arrive, and in the first 3 epi's of series 2, they enter the hatch at night, the computer gets shot within the first 30-50 mins, kate leaves to get sayid, she arrives at the beach during daylight while desmond was also running off during the day, despite it was late at night when they blew the hatch. It just makes no real sense, so i am confused. More confused by the other latest events though.

rocheclip217
05-17-2006, 04:11 PM
Ok, I don't think this has anything to do with the lost mythology other than a possible hint as to where they are.
From wikipedia about the equator and sunrise and sunset:
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equator
Places near the equator experience the quickest rates of sunrise and sunset in the world, taking minutes. Such places also have a relatively constant amount of day/night time on every day throughout the year compared with more northerly or southerly places.

Also Gregg Nations talks about the day/night here:
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=48861

Basically the theory about their being a lot of rain in Hawaii holds some weight.

I don't think the whole thing is unbelievable though. At least there were no scenes were it was dark and then light and then dark again. I think they just tried their best with what they had to work with and that is that. When you are filming outside you are at the mercy of mother nature.

mgracer102
05-17-2006, 04:35 PM
The first thing i thought when they got near the beechcraft was the fact that locke was able to walk. so it was a bad oversight by the writers or there was something causing it before. and i have faith in th writers so i'm thinking its important that he couldn't walk before and could now. I think the island wanted only Boone to go up on the plane so it disabled Locke so he couldn't go up there too.