View Full Version : Locke - No longer the Man of Faith
bumpygrimes 05-11-2006, 11:43 PM John Locke was my favorite character in Season 1. He was mysterious, wise, and the most interesting Lostie by far. Season 2 rolled around and Locke was no longer the jungle trekking, advice giving, Boone hallucinating man of faith. All he did was sit in front of the computer and press the numbers. (Yes, I know I'm beating the dead horse here, but please bear with me.) A few episodes ago he gave up the number pressing thanks to NotHenry's claims that it does nothing. So now Locke appears to be sapped of his faith in the island that made him so intriguing. It was evident in the '?' episode when all he did was mock his old self and conclude that his whole life has been meaningless.
It appears that Mr. Eko has become the new man of faith, and Locke has been demoted to old bald man. While the Ekmiester is a cool dude, he doesn't come close to matching the greatness of Season 1 John Locke. Hopefully something will happen that tests Locke's faith and reverts him back into his old jungleman self, but I fear the writers are making his character less likeable so they can kill him off without taking too much scrutiny.
NathanielStarr 05-11-2006, 11:52 PM I think this season has made him into the most interesting character on television. No character is as troubled as John Locke, not even Sawyer. This show takes things slowly and gradually. This loss of faith will lead into a great story of when he regains his faith and develops a true sense of self worth.
Him being a wise, shaman like character was cool and all but now he is this flawed realistic human being who I feel is still the most important character on the show.
eggbeater 05-11-2006, 11:55 PM NathanielStarr i agree with you. People should be patient. With Locke's loss of faith, he really has the most layers of any character on lost. I am betting that his faith will be renewed by the end of the season. But i do hope that he starts fighting with a different character other that Jack. It just seems too easy.
bumpygrimes 05-11-2006, 11:55 PM I think this season has made him into the most interesting character on television. No character is as troubled as John Locke, not even Sawyer. This show takes things slowly and gradually. This loss of faith will lead into a great story of when he regains his faith and develops a true sense of self worth.
Him being a wise, shaman like character was cool and all but now he is this flawed realistic human being who I feel is still the most important character on the show.
I disagree. A "flawed realistic human being" makes him just like every other character on the show. He no longer emits the mystique that was present in Season 1.
CUinAnotherLife 05-11-2006, 11:58 PM Even Christ has a crisis of faith before the end. Locke will come around again. Have faith.
bumpygrimes 05-12-2006, 12:00 AM Even Christ has a crisis of faith before the end. Locke will come around again. Have faith.
I have more faith in God than I do in the writers of this show...but of course I'll have faith until Locke is killed off or he gets his faith back. :biggrin:
fourthpoliceman 05-12-2006, 12:01 AM Hopefully something will happen that tests Locke's faith and reverts him back into his old jungleman self, but I fear the writers are making his character less likeable so they can kill him off without taking too much scrutiny.
That would be pretty cool if they kill him off as a parallel to Gilgamesh and Enkindu's journey into the Cedar forest to kill the demon guardian of the forest. It would be ironic in that, his ultimate step towards faith would be to sarcrafice himself for the rest of the Losties, because 'the island demands it'.
bumpygrimes 05-12-2006, 12:03 AM fourthpolicemen, that would be the best way for Locke to die. Then he would really be a Christ-like figure.
CUinAnotherLife 05-12-2006, 12:04 AM Jack is the Christ figure of the show, not Locke. Ah-hem, Jack SHEPHERD!
bumpygrimes 05-12-2006, 12:07 AM Jack is the Christ figure of the show, not Locke. Ah-hem, Jack SHEPHERD!
Was Christ a patronizing SOB? No, Jesus talked to everyone as his equals ('cept Satan, of course). All Jack does is talk down to people and act like he knows what's best for them.
CUinAnotherLife 05-12-2006, 12:23 AM Whoa, you clearly have very personal issues with Jack so I'll just say why I think Jack is the Christ figure.
1 - The Good Shepherd is another name for Christ. Jack's last name is Shepherd. That's pretty obvious.
2 - Jack seems to be the one to carry the weight of the entire group on his shoulders. He makes himself responsible for everything. I think this is meant to parallel Christ taking the sins of the world upon himself even though he himself was sinless.
3 - A lot of Jack's backstory indicates that he can perform miracles and healings.
So that's why I think Jack is the Christ/Messiah figure.
bumpygrimes 05-12-2006, 12:31 AM Then Jack needs to live up to his title. He was great for the first half of Season 1, but since then his character has become a patronizing jerk.
fourthpoliceman 05-12-2006, 12:40 AM All Jack does is talk down to people and act like he knows what's best for them.
I don't neccissarily agree with this. He seems to interact to those around him at their level... For example, of the primary characters I'm hard pressed to think of a time where he talked down to Sayid or even Hurley. I know he has issues with Locke, but come'on Locke has finally realized Locke has issues with Locke. Stop lying, and your friends will stop dying... maybe not.. but stop lying would be a start. As with Sawyer, well.. maybe it's true that a only a SOB can communicate with another SOB.
That said, Jack is not a christ figure... not by a long shot. But neither is Locke. If a sacrafice is all that is needed to become christ-like, then Boone was there first.
NathanielStarr 05-12-2006, 11:38 PM I disagree. A "flawed realistic human being" makes him just like every other character on the show. He no longer emits the mystique that was present in Season 1.
I disagree that he is like all the other characters on the show. Most of them are not relateable to by the average person but many many people in reality are caught up in a life that most would consider meaningless. Yes it's true that no one has stolen their kidneys but were not con men, murders or overly heroic surgeons either. To me Lockes problems are just more easy to relate to because most of us lead average lives and yearn for something more. The others problems stem from their above average lives for the most part...
You can use Locke's loss of faith and wanting something more to the average persons search for something more and they need faith just to survive day to day.
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