Here comes DES to save the DAAAAY!!!!! (put this in the wrong area first grrrr):biggrin:

Ha, ha ! Yes, but he doesn't quite look like he's in the mood for saving the day, does he ?

http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/livedie/livediepromo14.jpg

I just don't think that Desmond is in the boat. First, if it's his boat ... that was wrecked on the reef 3 years ago. I doubt there's anything on the island to fix a boat that's been wrecked that long. The salt water alone would have rotted the wood even if it hasn't been in the water all this time. That boat is in too good of a shape to be his. I think it's either empty or another boat that the island has "brought" to itself.

He looks like he's ready to save the day (and kick ***!) in your avi, though, number_22!! :biggrin:

michael asked for a boat, the Others couldve set it to drift towards their camp so the losties wouldnt know about the bargain.

it could still be Des' boat tho, the Others couldve taken his boat and fixed it, or he didnt crash at all but was made to believe he did

Here comes da :boat:!!!! Here comes da :boat:!!!!

:laughing:

Jack and Des are going to sail off into the sunset together...:inlove:

Jack and Des are going to sail off into the sunset together...:inlove:

Ha, Ha, my goodeye!!

the ship is happening and you knows it!

Thats a good pic of Desmond. Is that from LOST or some other project?
as usual I not on top of things lol.:confused:

Which pix are you talking about, jheri? :confused:

Actually, mygoodeye, as sad as it is for me to say,
I don't think Jack and Desmond will have much screen time together in this eppy. Jack will be going off with Michael's "rescue party." Desmond, if he leaves the Beach Camp area at all, will probably be going with Sayid and Jin on their mission to flank the "rescue party" from a distance. If he stays around Beach Camp, I suspect he'll wind up having to help defend it!
I'm the #1 member of the Jack and Desmond friendship club, as you know! :D So it doesn't give me joy to say the above. But I'm hoping that
Ian will become a regular on the show next season. Then there'll be PLENTY of time for Des and Jack to be together and grow their friendship!
Meanwhile. . .is it Wednesday yet?

michael asked for a boat, the Others couldve set it to drift towards their camp so the losties wouldnt know about the bargain.

it could still be Des' boat tho, the Others couldve taken his boat and fixed it, or he didnt crash at all but was made to believe he did Actually MGE, Michael asked for "the" boat. He asked for the boat that he knew they had ... the tug that Zeke was on when the raft was bombed.
Thats a good pic of Desmond. Is that from LOST or some other project?
as usual I not on top of things lol.:confused: Who's pix are you talking about? I noticed that MerryMac didn't have an avi. Was it that one and maybe it's been taken down for some reason?
Which pix are you talking about, jheri? :confused:

Actually, mygoodeye, as sad as it is for me to say,
I don't think Jack and Desmond will have much screen time together in this eppy. Jack will be going off with Michael's "rescue party." Desmond, if he leaves the Beach Camp area at all, will probably be going with Sayid and Jin on their mission to flank the "rescue party" from a distance. If he stays around Beach Camp, I suspect he'll wind up having to help defend it!
I'm the #1 member of the Jack and Desmond friendship club, as you know! :D So it doesn't give me joy to say the above. But I'm hoping that
Ian will become a regular on the show next season. Then there'll be PLENTY of time for Des and Jack to be together and grow their friendship!
Meanwhile. . .is it Wednesday yet? I see it differently, STH. I see Jack and Desmond in the jungle talking quite a bit. Though they probably won't get as much time as you'd like since the finale is a Desmond back-story. But I just don't think we'll see Desmond on the beach with the Losties ... at least not until the end of the eppy sometime.No, dang it! It's not Wed. yet! But it's just 5 more days to go!! :biggrin:

FIVE DAYS IS TOO LONG!! :bawling:

The promo pix show Mike and The Four, and no one else, Jane. And those five will be setting out the next morning (remember, the funeral is at sundown), so the nighttime is basically IT for opportunity to talk. And much of that night, Sayid's gonna wanna strategize with Jack. I do know Desmond is in the hatch with Locke at one point. But I don't think he's gonna be there when all heck breaks loose. Personally, I think he should go with Jin and Sayid, but he wouldn't be NEEDED, as Jin knows how to sail. So I don't know WHERE he's gonna be in the present time, beyond the first scenes of the Finale!
And five days is STILL too long! :down:

You will let us know when you hear from him, right, Jane? Oh, I'm being silly. OF COURSE you will! :hug:

Actually MGE, Michael asked for "the" boat. He asked for the boat that he knew they had ... the tug that Zeke was on when the raft was bombed

true...but...ah nevermind. youve read the spoilers:rolleyes:

You guys might like to listen to the new podcast, there's a little Desmond bit in it, the boat might just be his boat indeed...

FIVE DAYS IS TOO LONG!! :bawling:

The promo pix show Mike and The Four, and no one else, Jane. And those five will be setting out the next morning (remember, the funeral is at sundown), so the nighttime is basically IT for opportunity to talk. And much of that night, Sayid's gonna wanna strategize with Jack. I do know Desmond is in the hatch with Locke at one point. But I don't think he's gonna be there when all heck breaks loose. Personally, I think he should go with Jin and Sayid, but he wouldn't be NEEDED, as Jin knows how to sail. So I don't know WHERE he's gonna be in the present time, beyond the first scenes of the Finale!
And five days is STILL too long! :down:

You will let us know when you hear from him, right, Jane? Oh, I'm being silly. OF COURSE you will! :hug: I don't know what you're talking about by saying that it's only the 5 setting out. I never said that Jack, Sayid or Desmond would be involved with Michael's trek. But I do think that Jack and Sayid are going to try and follow Michael et al and that's when they're going to stumble on Desmond.
true...but...ah nevermind. youve read the spoilers:rolleyes:Go ahead and say what you wanted to. I haven't read EVERY spoiler! LOL
You guys might like to listen to the new podcast, there's a little Desmond bit in it, the boat might just be his boat indeed... I still say that if it's Desmond's boat ... they're going to have to do some fancy explaining to justify its condition.

Ok, here's some finale spoilerage, I can't say how credible it is, but apparently it's from a good source. A lot on Desmond's past and a few quite unexpected things:

"Hey Doc. I promised some finale scoop for you, and here it is. I'm going to give this to you in three pieces. No, I do not know the twisty bread thing. It is being cut in secret and, amazingly, still very few people know what it is. "

"The episode opens with Desmond arriving in the sailboat, completely drunk. In flashback he is being let out of jail and being picked up by his fiancee/wife's father Charles Widmore. Widmore thinks Desmond is useless and tries to talk him into leaving his daughter. Desmond refuses.


His backstory is all about Desmond's battle with alcohol. He is desperate to free himself from the bottle and be taken seriously. He sees his "race" as an opportunity for renewal but nobody believes in him. You find out his problems with alcohol are what prevented him from becoming a doctor. When he is "training" at the collesium he doesn't even have a clue how he is going to enter the race. There is talk of faith and redemption all through this part of his backstory.


I think that Widmore was somehow responsible for Libby being in the institution because she is very contemptuous towards him and is working behind his back to help Desmond because she knows it will piss Widmore off. Don't know if she is his wife like some people say, or daughter. Little bit fuzzy here.


In the island scenes Desmond and Locke find themselves kindred spirits. When Locke tells Desmond that there was someone watching him, and shows him the printouts and explains the orientation for the Pearl station, Desmond flips out. He can't believe he was set up. Locke explains the situation with Eko and Desmond decides to show him something he thinks can help Locke with his quest to stop the button from being pushed.


Meanwhile, Sayid convinces Jin to join him off shore to make sure things are kosher with the Walt rescue. Jin absolutely does not believe that Michael is "compromised" and comes along more to keep an eye on Sayid. "

Ok, here's some finale spoilerage, I can't say how credible it is, but apparently it's from a good source. A lot on Desmond's past and a few quite unexpected things: Well, all I can say is if this is true (and thanks for posting it!), I'm going to be a bit ticked off because it does not follow logically what we've been lead to believe (yea, I know ... this is Lost LOL) but one has to be able to take some things as credible in order to try and follow along with the story. I stick by my belief that it doesn't make sense for Desmond to be in the boat that he said was wrecked on the reef (and the thing mentioned in his past in your spoiler post explains how that probably happened) since it appears to be in perfect shape. I guess then it must be a switch on a switch ... and sometimes I like those but I'm not sure if I'm going to buy the reasons they'll have to give. I'll have to watch and see.

But bottom line ... I don't care whose boat it is because DESMOND'S BACK!!!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Desmond being an

alcoholic

sure is something I didn't expect...

You guys might like to listen to the new podcast, there's a little Desmond bit in it, the boat might just be his boat indeed...

thanks, that was my first listen, it's totally fun.
xoxoxoox

4 days...grrrrrr:eek:

Well, all I can say is if this is true (and thanks for posting it!), I'm going to be a bit ticked off because it does not follow logically what we've been lead to believe (yea, I know ... this is Lost LOL) but one has to be able to take some things as credible in order to try and follow along with the story. I stick by my belief that it doesn't make sense for Desmond to be in the boat that he said was wrecked on the reef (and the thing mentioned in his past in your spoiler post explains how that probably happened) since it appears to be in perfect shape. I guess then it must be a switch on a switch ... and sometimes I like those but I'm not sure if I'm going to buy the reasons they'll have to give. I'll have to watch and see.

But bottom line ... I don't care whose boat it is because DESMOND'S BACK!!!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Interesting point, Jane. I just realized that my disbelief is so totally suspended on this show (and on "24" as well) that I don't really care about whether this logically follows what we have been lead to believe. Unless it is completely outrageous, I think I will be okay with it. AndDesmond/HIC fans have got to be happy that there boy will be back! :biggrin:
Ann Marie :desmond:

Desmond being an

alcoholic

sure is something I didn't expect... Tell me about it! I guess he has two friends named "Jack." ;) (Jack Shephard and Jack Daniels)And that now explains the bottle of alcohol that rolled out of his backpack when he fell down the hill!

Am pleased that number_22 posted that spoiler. Outside of a tweak here and detail there, I think it's pretty much accurate. What a relief! I'm serious. I was going nuts, having to wait and wait and WAIT for Wednesday! Now, at least, I know what I'm looking forward to.

Look like I was
not only right about Desmond's being on that boat, but that he wouldn't be with Jack for most of the eppy. But he IS gonna be in the hatch when all heck breaks loose! Our poor Desmond!

I, too, was a bit surprised that his backstory revolved around his being
an alcoholic,
but I guess that WOULD explain why
he was "almost" a doctor.
Doubts about that? Ask Dr. Christian Shephard. . .if he's actually still alive! :eek:

Looks like The Others--or, at least, "Henry"
are as good as Their word about letting Mike and Walt go off on Their boat.
Of course, this could be because They know
there's NOTHING OUT THERE.
But is that for real, or just another Dharma/Hanso/Widmore set-up?

Maybe (if we're lucky) we'll learn SOMETHING about all this NEXT season, yeah? :rolleyes:

But like Jane says, the IMPORTANT thing is that
DESMOND'S BACK!
:kicking: :jump: :kicking:

Ok, here's some finale spoilerage, I can't say how credible it is, but apparently it's from a good source. A lot on Desmond's past and a few quite unexpected things:

All I can say about those spoilers is Wow :eek: .
If they're true I'm going to have to rewrite part of my fanfics.

Start writing, xgirl!! :grin:

But not till AFTER Wednesday's eppy!

Is that a great storyline (accurate or not), or is that a great storyline?

It certainly is. I never would have thought of anything like that.
I'm still trying to get used to the idea of Desmond as an alcoholic. I have a hard time thinking of him that way.

I tried to warn everyone that we'd find a "dark side" to Desmond. :frown: But, like my friend used to say ... "While there's life, there's hope!" :biggrin:

Yea, STH, you were right. But I still stand by my beliefe that it doesn't make sense.

New Promo with more Desmond !

Only here:

http://media.putfile.com/Season-Finale-Promo-33

Yea, STH, you were right. But I still stand by my belief that it doesn't make sense.
Like you said in your earlier post, Jane, this is LOST! What's sense got to do with it? :D

And next season, Smokey the Monster will come and help them start a huge new signal fire! :laughing:

The LOST honchos SAID all our expectations will be turned inside out next season. I'm beginning to think that, for once, they're telling the truth!

Just as long as we look at the regulars' cast list for Season 3, and HIC's name is on it, that's fine with me!! :biggrin:

It certainly is. I never would have thought of anything like that.
I'm still trying to get used to the idea of Desmond as an alcoholic. I have a hard time thinking of him that way.

As far as what is in your spoiler font xgirl, I think that is going to be GREAT, if true, because Jack's father lost his right to practice medicine because of alcohol abuse. Like many adult children of alcoholics, Jack wanted to "save" his father, but he couldn't do that, and he eventually had to be the one that lodged a complaint that precipitated his father losing his license. He then goes to Austrailia to retreive his father's body, and "loses" that in the crash. If Desmond is a doctor who lost his right to practice due to substance abuse, Jack may direct his need to "save" an alcoholic onto Desmond. And that means plenty of screen time next season for HIC, and opportunity for some good acting. This is a scenario that would make sense logically from what we know. Desmond may have a dark side, but a dark side means there is a chance for redemption. I am hoping this is how they go.
Just three more days till the finale. :biggrin:
Ann Marie :desmond:

As far as what is in your spoiler font xgirl, I think that is going to be GREAT, if true, because Jack's father lost his right to practice medicine because of alcohol abuse. Like many adult children of alcoholics, Jack wanted to "save" his father, but he couldn't do that, and he eventually had to be the one that lodged a complaint that precipitated his father losing his license. He then goes to Austrailia to retreive his father's body, and "loses" that in the crash. If Desmond is a doctor who lost his right to practice due to substance abuse, Jack may direct his need to "save" an alcoholic onto Desmond. And that means plenty of screen time next season for HIC, and opportunity for some good acting. This is a scenario that would make sense logically from what we know. Desmond may have a dark side, but a dark side means there is a chance for redemption. I am hoping this is how they go.
Just three more days till the finale. :biggrin:
Ann Marie :desmond:

Thanks number_22 for the way-cool spoiler!! Anne Marie you beat me to the punch (...just getting caught up on this thread...). As I was reading thru I thought wow, Desmond as an alcoholic. Coincidence? I think not. What a great set-up for Jack -- he must confront the reincarnation of Christian Shepard in the guise Desmond, who Jack already has issues with because of his seemingly unfounded faith in pushing the button. You've gotta bet Jack is going to re-live all the guilt and anguish over not being able to save his dad -- now his ability (compulsion?) to "save" will again be tested, right on the heels of not being able to save Libby. It could also go the other way -- Jack will grow even more resentful of Desmond because of his alcoholism and not want anything to do with him at all. Either way, it certainly seems like an awfully deep storyline to work into the finale. Something I would think they would want to pursue NEXT SEASON!!!! [hint hint hint]. And JANE -- thanks for reminder about the bottle rolling out of Desmond's backpack. I forgot all about that little bit of foreshadowing.
HEY! Here's a thought (...and forgive me if it's not original...). An EW spoiler on SpoilerFX.com says Desmond returns and gives the Losties "fresh hope of escape". So, Desmond ran off into the jungle [...wait for it] to fix his boat and get the heck off the island!! (or maybe the boat wasn't damaged to start with). Anyway, I think it is his boat we see at the end of last week's eppy. But, with poor Desmond being an alcoholic, he's passed out and unaware he's drifting aimlessly back to the island. That might explain the LT/DA promo pix showing him looking pretty messed up, sitting by a fire trying to dry out -- in more ways than one.

Wednesday just cannot come soon enough! :Jumpy:

Barb

I'm not sure how credible all these finale spoilers are, I guess we'll have to wait it out, yeah ?

Just enjoy the new promo and I'm sure we'll be getting some extremly teasing preview clips very soon, that should work for me to get over the next four days !

Sorry I didn't get back here sooner to answer which pix, I clicked on the link at the beginning of this thread and there was pix of HIC.

As far as what is in your spoiler font xgirl, I think that is going to be GREAT, if true, because Jack's father lost his right to practice medicine because of alcohol abuse. Like many adult children of alcoholics, Jack wanted to "save" his father, but he couldn't do that, and he eventually had to be the one that lodged a complaint that precipitated his father losing his license. He then goes to Austrailia to retreive his father's body, and "loses" that in the crash. If Desmond is a doctor who lost his right to practice due to substance abuse, Jack may direct his need to "save" an alcoholic onto Desmond. And that means plenty of screen time next season for HIC, and opportunity for some good acting. This is a scenario that would make sense logically from what we know. Desmond may have a dark side, but a dark side means there is a chance for redemption. I am hoping this is how they go.
Just three more days till the finale. :biggrin:
Ann Marie :desmond: Oh I hope so! Desmond seemed so up beat when we first met him. Sure, he was down over the break in and computer blowing up ... but we all saw that glimer of compassion and hope when he recognized Jack. The man may have a demon in him but there's also an angle. And I believe that the angle will win! :biggrin:

Barb, you're welcome on my reminding of the bottle of booze that rolled out of his back pack. I had really wondered where that came from and why he'd take it with him. Now my question is ... if he had the bottle with him all along, did he ever drink while in the bunker? Was there more booze on hand? How did he manage to press that button so regularly if he was drunk? I think he managed to stay dry while there. Too bad he's fallen off the wagon.

And I'm thinking that he tried to escape via his boat but couldn't and just chucked it all and tied one on. Let's face it. You've got a boat and can't sail away ... I think anyone would get plastered with that situation!

OR
What he saw while he was sailing out there was enough to drive anyone to the bottle!

Wednesday just cannot come soon enough!
Truer words were never spoken, Barb! :biggrin:

Yep, the projection about
Jack and alcoholism
is dead-on.

But as you all know (ad nauseam), it is the word FRIENDSHIP that draws me like a pin to a magnet. Hummmmm. . .wait. . .maybe a magnet isn't the best comparison, seeing we're talking about the Island. . . .:D

HEY! Here's a thought (...and forgive me if it's not original...). An EW spoiler on SpoilerFX.com says Desmond returns and gives the Losties "fresh hope of escape". So, Desmond ran off into the jungle [...wait for it] to fix his boat and get the heck off the island!! (or maybe the boat wasn't damaged to start with). Anyway, I think it is his boat we see at the end of last week's eppy. But, with poor Desmond being an alcoholic, he's passed out and unaware he's drifting aimlessly back to the island. That might explain the LT/DA promo pix showing him looking pretty messed up, sitting by a fire trying to dry out -- in more ways than one.

OK, at the risk of self-aggrandizing....

I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS RIGHT!!!. I mean, I'm never right about these things. My husband actually laughs at me when I espouse theories about TV shows, because I'm usually just so horribly misguided. Maybe this one was a bit obvious, but, well...hooray for me!!!

OK, I'm done.

OK, at the risk of self-aggrandizing....

I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS RIGHT!!!. I mean, I'm never right about these things. My husband actually laughs at me when I espouse theories about TV shows, because I'm usually just so horribly misguided. Maybe this one was a bit obvious, but, well...hooray for me!!!

OK, I'm done.You were right and so were a lot of folks but I only had my reservations based on what we'd been told prior to the finale. I had posted here that I'd be really unhappy if the explanation didn't make sense but it was brilliant! Desmond did think his boat was wrecked so it wasn't even him that repaired it! And when he told Jack and Locke he'd crashed it ... he didn't lie. He never had to tell them it was fixed ... just like he never told them he killed Kelvin (or did he? New thread on that topic to be begun by me after I post this). It was truly done magnificently and I am very happy with the entire eppy! (And I must admit, having our first reintroduction to Desmond being in his undies with the long tailed shirt and barefeet was scrumptious!)

(And I must admit, having our first reintroduction to Desmond being in his undies with the long tailed shirt and barefeet was scrumptious!)
You WOULD see it that way, Jane! :D

Guess they need to find a crate of rum on The Black Rock. I can just see a happy hour in The Pearl Station, with Desmond, Jack, Locke, Sayid, and Charlie sharing a bottle or two, and commiserating about the women in their lives! :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, back at beach camp, Kate, Claire, and Danielle could be doing the same, only the menfolk would be the topic! :laughing:

You WOULD see it that way, Jane! :D

Guess they need to find a crate of rum on The Black Rock. I can just see a happy hour in The Pearl Station, with Desmond, Jack, Locke, Sayid, and Charlie sharing a bottle or two, and commiserating about the women in their lives! :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, back at beach camp, Kate, Claire, and Danielle could be doing the same, only the menfolk would be the topic! :laughing: Okay, explain how ELSE I could have seen it? ;) The man has great legs! Hair to feet ... shere purrrrfection! :biggrin:

That bar scene at the Black Rocks sounds good! I like that. It has the true ring of a pirate's escapade ... complete with skeletons in shackles! :eek2:

Yo, ho, ho, and a bottle of rum! :pirate2: :pirate: :champagn:

Does anyone else have a hard time believing Inman could have lumber,nails,screws, tools and marine paint to fix boat? Even if Inman did get all of the above, Desmond should have detected sawdust, paint and paint fumes on him (unless he showered and washed clothes at another hatch). We were all made to believe the sail mast hit Desmond on the head. What did we actually see? l do not believe the boat was ever wrecked!!!!!

Does anyone else have a hard time believing Inman could have lumber,nails,screws, tools and marine paint to fix boat? Even if Inman did get all of the above, Desmond should have detected sawdust, paint and paint fumes on him (unless he showered and washed clothes at another hatch). We were all made to believe the sail mast hit Desmond on the head. What did we actually see? l do not believe the boat was ever wrecked!!!!! Well, considering that Kelvin knew about the map then there are really good chances that he knew where other stations were. Those tools could have been found in either those other stations or even on Desmond's boat. It doesn't seem strange that Desmond could have had some of those items on the boat. And, after all, it did take Kelvin nearly three years to fix it. And if Desmond had never really wrecked it, why should Kelvin wait 3 years to make his get-away? It's didn't take that long to train Desmond to take over the button pushing. Kelvin could have, and would have, left in just a few months ... if even that long if the boat had been sailable right off.

As for his cleaning up ... the ocean. That's how the Losties have been cleaning up (and the waterfall) all this time.

I agree on the question of what took Inman so long to leave. Then another pops up! Why did Inman want to turn the key if knew he was going to leave in Desmond's boat and Desmond would be pushing the button? Desmond asked the same question and Inman answered that " he was drunk." The lumber, paint etc. would never be put on a racing boat. It would make the boat too heavy thus Desmond would have never won the race.

Maybe the "drunkenness" was faked, and Inman (really believing what his predecessor may have told him about the key) was setting up the situation so that Desmond would have an option once he sailed away and left Des all alone?

I like that idea. Maybe that is why Inman waited till the count down was getting low and the alarm woke Desmond to set him up.:confused: :confused:

I agree on the question of what took Inman so long to leave. Then another pops up! Why did Inman want to turn the key if knew he was going to leave in Desmond's boat and Desmond would be pushing the button? Desmond asked the same question and Inman answered that " he was drunk." The lumber, paint etc. would never be put on a racing boat. It would make the boat too heavy thus Desmond would have never won the race. Let's remember that we don't know what Kelvin used to fix Desmond's boat. Someone posted "lumber" and I replied to that post. The boat looks like fiberglass to me ... but then I don't know about boats. There does have to be, I'd think, some amount of lumber in it besides the cabin and deck. But again, even if Kelvin fixed the boat with lumber, he wasn't in a race and after 3 years ... the race Desmond entered was long over so it wouldn't matter if it was heavier now or not as long as it sailed and stayed afloat.
Maybe the "drunkenness" was faked, and Inman (really believing what his predecessor may have told him about the key) was setting up the situation so that Desmond would have an option once he sailed away and left Des all alone? Possible but we really don't know how long it was between that dunken scene with the key and when Kelvin realized that the boat could be repaired. I think that the key incident occured much before Kelvin realized he could use Desmond's boat to escape the island. My reasons are 1] all we know is that they were together 3 years before Kelvin died & 2] Desmond seemed to buy into everything else Kelvin told him so why not just sit Desmond down, show him the key and explain it to him? I think Desmond would have believed that as much as he did with Kelvin being drunk and telling him.

But it happened the way it happened, Jane. So I think that Inman wanted things to happen that way. Spooks are very good at "arranging" things, you know.

I don't think the Inman story is over. It may be that it will be told posthumously, like Libby's is gonna be. We shall see. . . .

But it happened the way it happened, Jane. So I think that Inman wanted things to happen that way. Spooks are very good at "arranging" things, you know.

I don't think the Inman story is over. It may be that it will be told posthumously, like Libby's is gonna be. We shall see. . . . Sure it happened the way we saw it but we don't know how much time transpired between events. Keep in mind that everything we saw with Desmond and Kelvin covered 3 years! If the episode of the drunken Kelvin was, let's say, 6 mos after Desmond arrived, he may not have even found anything to try and repair the boat so he felt that the key was an option, though he couldn't find the courage to use it ... hence why I think he was drunk. He felt he needed to be drunk to turn the key. But then after 3 years and the boat being fixed, he no longer needed to worry about the key. That's what I was saying. I doubt when he was down there with the key that Desmond's boat was ready to set sail in about a week.

Some things about the boat storm scene do not add up! My main problem is why Desmond would go below and get a red boat fender and bring it up to the deck if there was no place to dock the boat! I did see the buoy in the water when the scene first started so I thought that might be the answer. Most of the clan agrees about the GPS on the boat so I also asked about that. I asked a dear friend that has Captain's license and a beautiful sailboat to help me out......Thanks Captain Jack for your answers!!!

1) Would a person that was entered in a race around the world be allowed to have GPS on Board? Yes, unless rules say no.

2).If you were in a terrible storm would you ever tie off the wheel with a rope and go below? What would happen if you tied off the wheel? Yes, it is called "hove to" you put the sails in a starboard tack and turn the wheel or helm in the opposite direction and tie off the wheel or tiller. This action will cause the boat to go in a slow zig zag direction you go below and lay on the sole(floor) the lowest part has the least rocking.

3).During this terrible storm would you ever bring a boat bumper up from below and possibily tie it up somewhere on the rail for any reason? It is not called a bumper it is a fender and no.

4). Would it ever be possible to tie a boat up to a buoy in a storm? No, it is against the law to tie to a navigational buoy and it would be bouncing around and beat a hole in the boat.

My conclusions are Desmond must have saw somewhere to dock the boat and that is why he went down below to get the fender and "Our Mutual Friend". Sounds like a storm made by our friends on the Island and a nice boat dock to attract him there. Someone wanted to Keep our Desmond on the Island Forever!!!!

Some things about the boat storm scene do not add up! My main problem is why Desmond would go below and get a red boat fender and bring it up to the deck if there was no place to dock the boat! I did see the buoy in the water when the scene first started so I thought that might be the answer. Most of the clan agrees about the GPS on the boat so I also asked about that. I asked a dear friend that has Captain's license and a beautiful sailboat to help me out......Thanks Captain Jack for your answers!!!

1) Would a person that was entered in a race around the world be allowed to have GPS on Board? Yes, unless rules say no.

2).If you were in a terrible storm would you ever tie off the wheel with a rope and go below? What would happen if you tied off the wheel? Yes, it is called "hove to" you put the sails in a starboard tack and turn the wheel or helm in the opposite direction and tie off the wheel or tiller. This action will cause the boat to go in a slow zig zag direction you go below and lay on the sole(floor) the lowest part has the least rocking.

3).During this terrible storm would you ever bring a boat bumper up from below and possibily tie it up somewhere on the rail for any reason? It is not called a bumper it is a fender and no.

4). Would it ever be possible to tie a boat up to a buoy in a storm? No, it is against the law to tie to a navigational buoy and it would be bouncing around and beat a hole in the boat.

My conclusions are Desmond must have saw somewhere to dock the boat and that is why he went down below to get the fender and "Our Mutual Friend". Sounds like a storm made by our friends on the Island and a nice boat dock to attract him there. Someone wanted to Keep our Desmond on the Island Forever!!!!Very good! And my thanks to Capt'n Jack, too!

But do keep in mind that Desmond, by his own admission, was not an experienced sailor. So while these things he did could lead us to conclude that he saw a place to dock, it doesn't have to mean that. He may have thought about trying anything he could and then just gave up and jumped in and tried his best to make it to shore.

But we do know about the Pala Ferry pier but we don't know how far Desmond's boat was from that and the storm seemed too severe to be able to dock anyway. All we see is his boat in the lagoon after Kelvin fixed it. My gutt reaction is that the boat had to have been somewhat close to that location since, with its being damaged, Kelvin would have had a hard time getting it somewhere else. And that lagoon looks nothing like the area around the Pala Ferry's pier. Of course, that doesn't mean that there isn't another pier on the island but so far we've only seen the Pala Ferry pier.

And then we also have to remember that the writers may have just been making it look overly dramatic ... but I don't want to go that route because it just puts too much to question and then there goes the "story." ;)

Can you play that scene for Jack and see what he thinks of it? Maybe seeing it would trigger something more that you might have missed. Our own resident "expert." How cool! Thanks, Desmondslass! :biggrin:

But it happened the way it happened, Jane. So I think that Inman wanted things to happen that way. Spooks are very good at "arranging" things, you know.

I don't think the Inman story is over. It may be that it will be told posthumously, like Libby's is gonna be. We shall see. . . .

I agree. I think we will find out more about Kelvin. Plus Clancy Brown is the voice of Mr. Krabs on Spongebob Squarepants, so I'd love to see him get more work! ('Cause I love Spongebob!):biggrin:
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That is a great idea Jane, letting Captain Jack view the whole storm scene. Could someone clip the scene for me so I could Email it to him? I do not want to ask him to go to ABC and find the scene. He will think I am crazy. Thanks

Desmondslass, we are all crazy--crazy about DESMOND! :D

That is a great idea Jane, letting Captain Jack view the whole storm scene. Could someone clip the scene for me so I could Email it to him? I do not want to ask him to go to ABC and find the scene. He will think I am crazy. Thanks I'll see what I can do.

I'll see what I can do. Thanks Jane