Kate, one of four on the list. Why would the Others want Kate? Jack is a Doctor and the leader of the Losties. Hurley's super rich. Sawyer....a threat to Zeke?(OK, I'm stretchin here).
The Others wanting Kate would seem to give credence to the theory that Kate is an Other.

It's a stretch to think Kate is a other. Why think she's a other because they want her than I suppose we can say, Jack, Sawyer, Hurley is Ohters also.
All the supposesd evidence that she's an other is substantial to say the least. There's no prove and well maybe it's just me but I dont get that vibe that she's hiding something like that. She cares about those losties too much to lead them into a trap like that.

It's a stretch to think Kate is a other. Why think she's a other because they want her than I suppose we can say, Jack, Sawyer, Hurley is Ohters also.
All the supposesd evidence that she's an other is substantial to say the least. There's no prove and well maybe it's just me but I dont get that vibe that she's hiding something like that. She cares about those losties too much to lead them into a trap like that.

Betrayal, like death, seems to be what most viewers want to see these days. Look at how excited people got after Michael killed Ana and Libby! Personally I don't think Kate is an Other, but she is definitely capable of deceit and murder. Remember how she helped Sun to try to poison Jin, in hopes of taking his place on the raft? (Season 1) How about her entire backstory starting with the murder of her StepFather(Father)?! Another reason that I can see the writers possibly making Kate connected with the Others is because she's been too quiet over the last half of the season. Her last big hurrah was back when she got taken hostage(?) by Zeke and company.

The only reasons I can think of for why they would want Kate, would be (1) because of who her father (or stepfather?) is. Maybe somehow he is connected to the whole Dharma thing. Or (2) because the Others know the connection that Kate has with Jack and Sawyer and they will use her to get want they want from them.
But most likely it will be something totally different and unexpected.

Betrayal, like death, seems to be what most viewers want to see these days. Look at how excited people got after Michael killed Ana and Libby! Personally I don't think Kate is an Other, but she is definitely capable of deceit and murder. Remember how she helped Sun to try to poison Jin, in hopes of taking his place on the raft? (Season 1) How about her entire backstory starting with the murder of her StepFather(Father)?! Another reason that I can see the writers possibly making Kate connected with the Others is because she's been too quiet over the last half of the season. Her last big hurrah was back when she got taken hostage(?) by Zeke and company.

I agree with the death and betrayal thing, it's been rampant this year in a lot of shows and yes Kate has been waayy too quiet this season and I hope they got something big planned for her but her being in on it with the Others? It just doesnt make any sense for the show. She's the female lead, the romantic lead if they have her be a Other that will immediately kill the relationship between her and Jack and her and Sawyer not to mention all the other losties. So I really can't see them going in that direction with her.
I know she's capable of lying, manipulating, killing etc but I think she's learned from her mistakes she semed really hurt in BTR when Jack said he didnt know what she's capable of and I think she realised her mistake being involved in poisoning the water that someone lese could get sick as Michael did instead of Jin. She never meant to hurt anyone and Sun went along with it, they must've known no one's life would bein danger.
If she is betraying them now, she must surely know that Jack, Sawyer and Hurley in particular are in grave danger. She wont go that far to lead them into a trap.
So I'm sticking to it that she's not a Other.

I agree with the death and betrayal thing, it's been rampant this year in a lot of shows and yes Kate has been waayy too quiet this season and I hope they got something big planned for her but her being in on it with the Others? It just doesnt make any sense for the show. She's the female lead, the romantic lead if they have her be a Other that will immediately kill the relationship between her and Jack and her and Sawyer not to mention all the other losties. So I really can't see them going in that direction with her.
I know she's capable of lying, manipulating, killing etc but I think she's learned from her mistakes she semed really hurt in BTR when Jack said he didnt know what she's capable of and I think she realised her mistake being involved in poisoning the water that someone lese could get sick as Michael did instead of Jin. She never meant to hurt anyone and Sun went along with it, they must've known no one's life would bein danger.
If she is betraying them now, she must surely know that Jack, Sawyer and Hurley in particular are in grave danger. She wont go that far to lead them into a trap.
So I'm sticking to it that she's not a Other.

The big question stems from when Zeke and company captured Kate. Why did they cover her head with a sack? So she couldn't see Michael or so Michael couldn't see her? Also, why did they take Michael back to their camp but not Kate? They could easily have taken both of them and left Jack, Sawyer and Locke wandering aimlessly around in the dark. (Did they really need the ~5 guns so badly? I really doubt it considering all the other resources at their disposal (i.e. Boats)

The big question stems from when Zeke and company captured Kate. Why did they cover her head with a sack? So she couldn't see Michael or so Michael couldn't see her? Also, why did they take Michael back to their camp but not Kate? They could easily have taken both of them and left Jack, Sawyer and Locke wandering aimlessly around in the dark. (Did they really need the ~5 guns so badly? I really doubt it considering all the other resources at their disposal (i.e. Boats)

My thoughts on it was that they put the bag over her head so she wont see them and perhaps that they got Michael and gagged her so she wont scream and let Kack know they have her. They obviously didnt want her back then wonder what made them change their mind or they used her as bait to see what Jack would do. to find out if they cared enough about each other to give up their weapons when another's life is threatened. And Jack obviously fell for it hook line and sinker. Now Zeke and the others know that Kate is a weak spot for Jack and Sawyer. who knows maybe they only want her along to set the 2 men up again.

[QUOTE=briar910;1002083]The only reasons I can think of for why they would want Kate, would be (1) because of who her father (or stepfather?) is. Maybe somehow he is connected to the whole Dharma thing. [QUOTE]

That's a really interesting idea. Wasn't Sam Austin in Iraq and had some connection with Sayid and the CIA guy? Will the CIA guy show up again? And didn't Ana find a knife on the Island and make a point of identifying it as an army knife?

Wasn't Sam Austin in Iraq and had some connection with Sayid and the CIA guy? Will the CIA guy show up again? And didn't Ana find a knife on the Island and make a point of identifying it as an army knife?
That's a possibility. I forgot about Kate's stepfather (San Austin). Her real father probably has nothing to do with Dharma or anything else. Of course, if her father and the CIA agent are involved, I would be very disappointed. The last thing I want is for Dharma/Widmore/the whole freaking island to be a CIA operation of some kind. That would make Lost too much like the X-Files.

I agree with the death and betrayal thing, it's been rampant this year in a lot of shows and yes Kate has been waayy too quiet this season and I hope they got something big planned for her but her being in on it with the Others? It just doesnt make any sense for the show. She's the female lead, the romantic lead if they have her be a Other that will immediately kill the relationship between her and Jack and her and Sawyer not to mention all the other losties. So I really can't see them going in that direction with her.
I know she's capable of lying, manipulating, killing etc but I think she's learned from her mistakes she semed really hurt in BTR when Jack said he didnt know what she's capable of and I think she realised her mistake being involved in poisoning the water that someone lese could get sick as Michael did instead of Jin. She never meant to hurt anyone and Sun went along with it, they must've known no one's life would bein danger.
If she is betraying them now, she must surely know that Jack, Sawyer and Hurley in particular are in grave danger. She wont go that far to lead them into a trap.
So I'm sticking to it that she's not a Other.
The theory that Kate is an other is easy to start because it's a simple idea, Kate is part of the others and she will betray the Losties at some point. I guess that's part of why you think it would be a bad direction, it's too straightforward a plotline. But if you read what most people who post on the Kate is in on it thread are saying, quite a few don't actually think she is an other. It's more like Dharma had some influence on her life pre-island. This makes it more interesting because there's more tension and potential for plotlines.

About the list, not sure why she's on it, lots of good speculation but nothing completely convincing, hey kinda like the evidence for most theories.

I know I am jumping in here so sorry but, jfsquires has a really good point, they must have someone military on the island because of the knife and the guy in the oat was by no means a first timer with a gun, I think he is what you call a sharp shooter (don't know much about gun slang) and with that accuracy in a bobing boat at a moving target he must have some experience.

It could just be that a vessel went of course carrying military personel !!!

Oh yeah very very possible, there's also a lot of military terms used as well.

It sounds a bit like Alias now. Sydney being used and trained from a young age to become a spy/CIA by her father. If Kate's father is involved and made sure she came to the island to take part in some experiment or become one of Them or whatever the story is here.

Another possibility is that the US military (with Austen and the CIA agent from Sayid's flashback involved) planned some kind of black ops on the island to either attack or infiltrate Dharma/Widmore/the Others and either it failed or the operative(s) are still alive and undercover.

The Others cannot have Kate!!! If they hurt her, they'll pay dearly for there evil ways!!!

I''ll go Solid Snake on them!!!!

Great name, Adam, really random comment.

Why does everyone think this was arranged, OK it is possible but really how do you plan to split a plane in three places mid-flight, cause problems and endanger alot of innocent life. If this was a government thing then it would be impossible, a press leek talking about that would bring it down and that is a risk I don't think any Pressident/PM/Dictaror is willing to take !!!

Great name, Adam, really random comment.

Why does everyone think this was arranged, OK it is possible but really how do you plan to split a plane in three places mid-flight, cause problems and endanger alot of innocent life. If this was a government thing then it would be impossible, a press leek talking about that would bring it down and that is a risk I don't think any Pressident/PM/Dictaror is willing to take !!!

For some reason, I'm very protective of Kate. I do not know why though. Is she going to live throughout season 3.

Now that we know Inman was on the island (or his twin) is it so hard to believe Kate's stepdad may also be on the island or, at the very least, associated with Dharma/Widmore? I'm betting he guest stars at some point in season three.

Now that we know Inman was on the island (or his twin) is it so hard to believe Kate's stepdad may also be on the island or, at the very least, associated with Dharma/Widmore? I'm betting he guest stars at some point in season three.

It could happen. As long as Kate is not hurt by the Others.

October is so far away.

:doh:Did you all see the way Alex felt Kate up?? That's why they want her. Alex got a crush on Kate:roflmao:

:doh:Did you all see the way Alex felt Kate up?? That's why they want her. Alex got a crush on Kate:roflmao:
Hey, didn't she also feel Claire up? No...she just shoved her out the hatch door.

They wanted Kate because of her survivalist skills. They wanted Jack because any group can always use another doctor. They used Sawyer because he is a con man and a master manipulator and that is what these people need.

They live an illusion...which Sawyer can help with. They sometimes have to live in the wild (perhaps with the loss of Goodwin and Ethan they needed someone to replace them) and Jack is..a a doctor.

They get them to do this by threatning the lives of the rest of the survivors. "You do this or your friend Hugo won't make it back to camp' sort of thing.

Its that simple.

Once the show comes back in the fall, I think that it will be a reason that no one is thinking of. No reason of betrayal or revenge, etc, etc.

I don't think they want either of them for specific, individual reasons, but rather as a core group of representatives of the castaways. Jack and Kate are the de facto leaders of the pack. Sawyer doesn't really fit into the picture, though.

I'm not very convinced that Fenry wants to harm them so I wouldn't worry too much about Kate's fate. She's a tough girl, she's been through a lot.

I don't think they want either of them for specific, individual reasons, but rather as a core group of representatives of the castaways. Jack and Kate are the de facto leaders of the pack. Sawyer doesn't really fit into the picture, though.

I'm not very convinced that Fenry wants to harm them so I wouldn't worry too much about Kate's fate. She's a tough girl, she's been through a lot.

Fenry I'm not worried about, it's Mr. Friendly who I fear for Kate. God only knows what he'll do to her. Remember The Hunting Party? He held a gun to her head and from that point on, everytime I saw him, I have always wanted to kill him for doing that. No one should threaten to shot somebody in the head espically when there unarmed.


All of us Kate fans are stuck in a jam. I may not last till October.