Over on the ABC boards, there are some people who want Sawyer to die first.* :-[ I am frankly appauled, and would be very upset if they killed off my favorite character. I still think he has alot to put on the table.* *Does anyone else feel this way?

Everyone has a favorite character that doesn't want to see get killed. I don't think you have anything to worry about :angel:, unlike myself lol

Thanks for the support Krystal ;) ;), who's your's???

Well, something I would really like to see happen, is if the Jack and Sawyer fans could just unite. Even if you don't particularly care for that character, it would be nice to support those that do not have the same character likes as you do. I would love to just talk to the Sawyer fans, because I could get along with the majority of them. Now I know I don't speak for everyone, but the Sawyer fans can be pretty cool :angel:

My faves are Charlie and Hurley, but I would hate to see Sawyer go, also. Or, any of them, for that matter. I think they all bring something to the group. Sawyer may be a mean ole s.o.b., but he's also hilarious and brings some comic relief to the show also.

Marina

I will definetly be devastated! He adds tension, fun and intrigues to the plot, and he is just an interesting character in his own right! So yes is my answer to that.

Speaking of the "war" between Jack and Sawyer fans, I gotta be honest to say that the downright "war" attitude between fans of these characters is most prominent on the ABC board, I frankly find some of the posts there ridiculous and immature, wich is why I won't register there. Also on an ezboard I find some immature posting but not as bad. On this board and the www.los-forum.com board I find that fans of these 2 characters for the most part get along just fine! I have nothing against Jack and I do NOT want him dead either...infact i wish the writers had kept quiet about this death towards the end of the season and I also wish they hadn't promised that Charlie would not be killed off...not cos I want him dead or anything, trust me I am happy he will be on the show!...but this sort of ruines the "surprise" that the creators wants to give the viewers....the element of surprise.

I know it is hard with keeping stuff secret at all cost..but I do honestly wish they hadn't even mentioned that one cast member would not be around for the second season....

They had to do the Charlie won't die thing to keep the LoTR fans (like myself) happy. I watched it for Dom and if he died I would stop watching...so they did that to keep us (and there are a LOT of us) and apparently its working.

Sawyer is not my favorite character but I don't want him to die! He addds so much to the show. The cast has to have someone who goes against the grain of any society, whether its out in the real world on on a tiny island. We need that angst and bad attitude. How boring the show wout be without him..and I'm not saying that just because he's pretty.

So yes, I would be very unhappy is Sawyer died. Not devestated but I wouldn't like it.

Krystal, I like Jack too, and think his death would bring a big loss to the show as well. Sawyer's just my fav ;D. Jack and Sawyer fans unite!!!(Atleast this one can ;))

Great :). Did you read that tv guide article where Matt called his character Jack and Sawyer twins separated at birth? That's one of the reasons I don't want to see either Jack or Sawyer get killed. I want them to end up being buddies, on the same side, not just with this whole Ethan ordeal.

Sawyer is one of my top favorites and I don't want to see him die. I don't want jack to die either. I like him too. I'm dreading the day it happens, I'll be devestated no matter who it is

Great :). Did you read that tv guide article where Matt called his character Jack and Sawyer twins separated at birth? That's one of the reasons I don't want to see either Jack or Sawyer get killed. I want them to end up being buddies, on the same side, not just with this whole Ethan ordeal.


That would be great!

Yes, I would be devastated.* *I like the other characters, but I LOVE Sawyer and Locke.* They're what keep me watching the show.* I've seen a few people wanting to "vote" Sawyer off the island, but he's one of the most interesting characters they have on the show.* Just look how many posts he gets compared to all the other characters.* Sure, he does bad things, but I think they've gone out of their way to show us he's not a bad person, and that there's something in the works for him (I hope!!).* We should be rooting for him, not just trying to cull him from the herd.* Is that what these people do to others in real life?* If the island were only full of do-gooders, how interesting would that be?* I WANT to see someone saved from his demons.* That's what I used to love about Spike and Angel.*

As I mentioned in another post, I once read somewhere that his character type seems to be the most appealing.* Given 3 character types, (1) one who's always good, (2) one who's always bad, and (3) one who was bad but becomes good, the third is the most appealling.* The theory seems to be that if there's hope for that character, there's hope for us, because none of us are perfect, either.

Not to mention the fact he gets some great lines!* ;)

I would HATE to see Sawyer die....he is my fave character on Lost. Each character brings something to the show, losing any of them would be hard. Sawyer started the show as the bad boy, and in a way he is, but we have seen that he also has a good side. Killing him off before we scratch the surface of who Sawyer really is would be devastating!!

I will be MAJORLY upset if he dies and Jack lives. Enough so that I may start HATING Jack. >:( Sawyer is one of the most interesting characters. If you aren't going to kill a character with major screen time (Kate, Locke, Boone, Jack) then kill someone like Michael. Sawyer and Locke are really the only characters that keep me watching the show and that I look forward to seeing. Jack and Kate bore me to no end.

You would actually hate a particular character if your favorite was killed off? Ummmmmm ok :-X

I also started watching LOST because of Dominic because I LOVE LoTR's! Charlie's not going anywhere until Dominic wants too. He's pretty safe.

BUT - now I watch the show for Josh Holloway/Sawyer. And, I have already said if they kill off the Sawyer character, I won't watch the show anymore. I mean, I like the rest of the characters and the more episodes I watch the more Iike about them, but Sawyer's now my favorite.

It's like ER. I didn't think it would be any good after George Clooney and the original cast left the show, but Michael Crichton is a fantastic writer (I love his books!) and they have found really good cast to replace the originals with. And unless JJ can come up with some really good replacement characters in the remaining survivors... :-\

GL 8)

Hmmm, I just don't see not watching a particular show just because your favorite would get killed. Not like I see Sawyer going anywhere (kudos) lol but there are 13 more characters to that show that add something. If people stop watching the show because a certain one character gets killed off, then the creators of lost are doing something wrong and it wasn't meant to be :-\

Agreed Krystal :). I wouldn't stop watching, but I think part of what makes the show so appealing is that we have become so attached to these characters. I really dont want anyone to die, but if the writers are smart, they will kill off someone who has either resolved their dilemna or who never really had much of one in the first place. If my theory is correct, Sawyer should be safe. But I'm not counting the chickens till their hatched, cause w/a show like this, anythings possible.

p.s. Krystal, I also read that tv guide article and do think that Jack and Sawyer are alot alike. They just handle things differenty. Jacks the yin and Sawyers the yang, and if they can work together, I think they could accomplish alot. ;D

You would actually hate a particular character if your favorite was killed off? Ummmmmm ok* :-X


I can see where Balguro's coming from. I'd like to think I'd still watch the show, but it might be too painful. We come to love theses characters, and like people in real life, we don't always want to be reminded of what we lost. (No pun intended!)

I'm not worried. Sawyer won't be the one to die. He has an important part to fill on the island. Sawyer is destined to be the anti-hero in the group. He is also a part of the Jack/Kate tri and that has to keep going too.

From what I have read it sounds like that tpab are invested in writing for this character.

TRoss, I really can't say I saw were Balguro was coming from. He didn't say he would stop watching the show if Sawyer got killed, but more that he would HATE JACK because he would live in his place so to speak. Not watching a show for it is too painful because your favorite is gone is different than taking your anger out on a character that has absolutely nothing to do with the reason your favorite is gone. Now, I'm assuming that Jack wouldn't kill Sawyer and if he did, then I would have to retract my statement. Otherwise, I can't :-\

TRoss, I really can't say I saw were Balguro was coming from. He didn't say he would stop watching the show if Sawyer got killed, but more that he would HATE JACK because he would live in his place so to speak. Not watching a show for it is too painful because your favorite is gone is different than taking your anger out on a character that has absolutely nothing to do with the reason your favorite is gone. Now, I'm assuming that Jack wouldn't kill Sawyer and if he did, then I would have to retract my statement. Otherwise, I can't* :-\


True.* I guess that's where resentment comes in.* Like the stories you hear about fathers hating their children because the mothers died giving birth to them (I know not all fathers suffering that fate are like that).* Resentment seems unreasonable, but how often do feelings and reason co-exist?

PS. I'm pretty sure Balguro's a girl. ;)

I've actually never heard of fathers hating their children because their mother died during childbirth. I guess in the world we live in today, anything's possible :-\ It was just that he specified Jack as the person he would hate and I was thinking, why are you pin pointing Jack and not someone else? He's not the only one that doesn't like Sawyer.

I'm going to be devastated whichever character dies but particularly if Jack or Sawyer was killed. I wouldn't stop watching the show but from a storyline perspective, I think it would be a big mistake to kill either one of them(I think I've figured out which main character loss would interest me the most but my lips are zipped ;) ). Sawyer and Jack are layered, multi-dimensional characters and I think it will be fascinating to watch their interactions and to see if they rub off on each other(Sawyer becoming more responsible,Jack being edgier,etc.)

I disagree with the get rid of Michael comment. I hope they don't go that route when there is still a potentially great story about a father building a relationship with a "special" child. I also agree with Krystal that I don't understand blaming another character for a death unless they were directly responsible for it. I don't believe that Sawyer views Jack as the enemy at this point so why blame Jack?

Hmmm, I just don't see not watching a particular show just because your favorite would get killed. Not like I see Sawyer going anywhere (kudos) lol but there are 13 more characters to that show that add something. If people stop watching the show because a certain one character gets killed off, then the creators of lost are doing something wrong and it wasn't meant to be* :-\


Like I said..I didn't start watching it for the SHOW. I started watching it for Dom. I admit it. If his character died I would lose interest in the show.

I wonder how many came in on the 'this program* looks interesting I'll give it a try ' bandwagon and how many came on because of a particular actor?

I also have to say that is something I rarely do EXCEPT in the case of the LoTR actors. A lot of us just like to support them in their post-LoTR projects because we like them..and many of us have gone to see things we NEVER would have otherwise were it not for* them. Romantic comedies...horror movies...big epics etc.

We know..we're a strange bunch..we admit it.* :laugh:

And as far as the creators go..that's the part of the risks of their business.

And I would stil hate it if Sawyer died..although I would keep watching.

I would HATE to see Sawyer die....he is my fave character on Lost. Each character brings something to the show, losing any of them would be hard. Sawyer started the show as the bad boy, and in a way he is, but we have seen that he also has a good side. Killing him off before we scratch the surface of who Sawyer really is would be devastating!!


Although I was a big fan of the Buffyverse, I think they went a little heavy on the whole "Redemption through death." In some ways, death can be the easy way out. You make the grand gesture, and then all your worries are gone. Living day-by-day and trying to be a better person, that's hard.

So, I guess what I"m saying is that I agree with you.* :) If they killed off Sawyer making one grand gesture for the good of the group -- when he has looked after only himself most of the time -- might be redeeming for the character. But it's more interesting to me to see the weekly struggle of angels and devils of his soul.

Alane

TRoss, I really can't say I saw were Balguro was coming from. He didn't say he would stop watching the show if Sawyer got killed, but more that he would HATE JACK because he would live in his place so to speak. Not watching a show for it is too painful because your favorite is gone is different than taking your anger out on a character that has absolutely nothing to do with the reason your favorite is gone.


I agree w/this....I think too much of the displacement over the intended/insinuated rivalry between Jack & Sawyer on the show spills over into the fan bases* :-\ Ppl can like who they do & still get along. Egads Sawyer may complicate a perfect path to J/K, but I don't want him dead, or hate the fans of him because he's Jack's competition! ... I would be too devastated to continue to watch if Jack went* :'( & I can understand others feeling the same about their favs. I'm going to really feel for the fan base of who it is.

I've seen a lot of "death wishes" for certain characters-& my feeling is just there's fans behind those characters who are already disconcerted & worried than to see lobbying for their death :( .

I don't think Sawyer fans have to worry because a)the triangle is too important to ratings & they're going to extend it as long as possible (maybe to our dismay LOL)
b) they said Sawyer would have ongoing "adventures" w/his partner in crime in his flashbacks. A story within a story.

I would be very upset if Sawyer got the boot. :( He can be such a jerk, but then he'll turn around and help. I think he's very important to the plot and I bet he'll prove useful in the future.

I'd say that Sawyer's one of my favorite characters, but I'm also a Jack fan. I can't believe people fight over who's better. :blink: I personally think both are swell. :wub: I love all of the characters, except Kate annoys me sometimes...

You would actually hate a particular character if your favorite was killed off? Ummmmmm ok

Well I already find Jack boring, especially his flashbacks. I also find his tendency to respond to others as if he's being personally blamed for something HIGHLY annoying, just as I find some of Sawyer's teasing to be HIGHLY annoying. My feelings are not based on either character being cool or hot looking. It's based on their personality types, and Jack's grates on my nerves often times.

If JJ or the others kill a character with as much long term potential as Sawyer however, I will loose faith in their ability to make good decisions for the show. I'm already accepting tons of unanswered questions in a genre where the show frequently ends up being the equivalent of a train wreck (X-files anyone?). I don’t feel killing Sawyer now is a good for the show. Maybe later and I wouldn’t care, but it’s too soon for that character to go. There are too many loose ends. Sawyer is what makes Jack bearable for me. Not Kate, not anyone else.

There are only two characters now I can see the story itself pointing to for death. Only two seem like a natural progression of the story, and those two are Sayid and Jack. I don’t hate either of them, but I feel they could die and it would be a natural development, with Sayid poking his nose into every corner and Jack having overcome his fear to be a leader in Cowboys. All the others either haven’t accomplished their purpose on the island (Michael developing a relationship with Walt for example).

Besides, who really wants to see more Jack and Kate dancing around their feelings? Sawyer keeps Jack from totally crawling up in his shell and looking like a shy third grader going through his first crush. I would go so far as to say, Sawyer makes Jack a better character. As the lead this means I will have to watch more of him no matter how I feel about it and it seems no one will be able to draw him out. Likewise I feel if Sawyer lives and Jack dies, unless he does some serious growing, Sawyer is in danger of being JUST as annoying.

And yes, I'm a girl. ;)

I find Jack highly interesting & compelling...I could list many reasons his purpose is no where near expounded....And I find what Jack & Kate have to be real, honest, & a joy to watch..I'm pleased to see something on tv where they actually bother to establish a friendship before they jump into bed* :P , & that's deeper than just physical attraction.

I see Jack responding in a natural way. He just needs help & w/Boone for example, there was no reason he couldn't go talk to Rose himself in WR...It's just that Jack had run around helping everyone & they were pushing all the responsibility off on him. He can't do everything & he was responding in a way anyone would, w/the exhaustion of someone who doesn't get sleep because he puts everyone elses needs ahead of his own. And sometimes understandably he gets frustrated because everyone looks to him for answers, but he doesn't always have them... He isn't just supervising, he's working all the time& getting his hands dirty...He's not the kind of guy who seeks out attention from ppl...He deals w/his issues himself & he moves on. Doesn't try to use his past as an excuse & doesn't whine-he does things even when he doesn't like him. I find him rather refreshing that he isn't the stereotypical overbearing, overtly assertive aggressive leader. I like his shy confidence & if I had an alcoholic father who used my feelings for him against me, I probably wouldn't open up so easily either..

Jack stands on his own as a great character. He & Sawyer compliment each other when they have scenes together,* good chemistry...but we're drifting off way topic.

.I'm pleased to see something on tv where they actually bother to establish a friendship before they jump into bed Tongue , & that's deeper than just physical attraction.

Personally, I don't care if anyone on the show hooks up at all. But then I'm the kind of person who dislikes ER and almost all real drama stuff on TV. The only reason I started watching this show was the idea of a monster and strange scfi/mystic stuff. No, not even Dom was enough alone to draw a Ringer like me in.

Although I was a big fan of the Buffyverse, I think they went a little heavy on the whole "Redemption through death." In some ways, death can be the easy way out. You make the grand gesture, and then all your worries are gone. Living day-by-day and trying to be a better person, that's hard.

So, I guess what I"m saying is that I agree with you.* :) If they killed off Sawyer making one grand gesture for the good of the group -- when he has looked after only himself most of the time -- might be redeeming for the character. But it's more interesting to me to see the weekly struggle of angels and devils of his soul.

Alane


I totally agree. Redemption by death has been overdone. How about redemption through acts? THAT would be fun to watch! ;)

I would be very upset if Sawyer got the boot.* :(* He can be such a jerk, but then he'll turn around and help. I think he's very important to the plot and I bet he'll prove useful in the future.

I'd say that Sawyer's one of my favorite characters, but I'm also a Jack fan. I can't believe people fight over who's better.* :blink: I personally think both are swell. :wub: I love all of the characters, except Kate annoys me sometimes...


lostfan88 -

I agree.* It's like Jack and Sawyer are yin and yang for each other.* Jack tries to be too good by taking on everyone's problems (not so much recently, though), and you can see the stress being the responsible one puts on him.* A little bit of Sawyer would be good for him.* And the same goes for Sawyer.* He tries to hard to push people (probably because he was hurt by a lot of people when he was young) instead of trying to participate and get a long.* Jack would be a great influence on him, too.* I hope they keep them both around.*

(Hey, I just found a scan of a TV Guide cover with a quote from Matthew Fox that hints at this!!

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&meta=lastup&cat=15&pos=67 )


I do like Kate, though.* I've been watching the old episodes, and though she's been a little cold lately, the old episodes helped convince me she is worth watching.* She is a leader in a way herself.* She puts herself out there to help others.* She's got her own baggage, to be sure, but that should be fun to watch unravel.* "Whatever the Case May Be" didn't give us much to love about her, but her whole story hasn't been told yet.* ;)

"There are only two characters now I can see the story itself pointing to for death. Only two seem like a natural progression of the story, and those two are Sayid and Jack."

Yikes, where to begin with this one :-\ I don't just want to ramble on about Sayid and Jack but I will say this. They are two LESS LIKELY to die as a NATURAL PROGRESSION of the story. The writers haven't scratched the surface yet of these two characters as far as backstory is concerned. How anyone can say there is nothing more to Jack's backstory is beyond me. If we are following your logic bulgaro, I suppose they will just leave his empty fathers casket that he opened in white rabbit as well as his relationship with Locke, Kate and Sawyer up in the air and a mystery to never be revealed. Even characters that die have some closure and well, with Jack there is only the one dealing with his internal conflicts about his father and what he did in the OR. With Sayid, we know about his time in the Iraq military and that's about it. There are plenty of unanswered questions about his time spent with Nadia (how he really felt about her) and Rousseau. With upcoming episodes, they have entered Shannon into the mix. They are bound to develop a relationship and you can't really do that in eight episodes where you aren't the central feature.

I think when you form a strong attachment to a character, or begin to relate to said character, losing them can easily kill your enjoyment of the show. It doesn't mean that the show isn't done well, it just means that some people lose that connection to the show. Or it simply becomes too much of a bummer to watch. Its more of an emotional reaction than an intellectual.

If Sawyer got killed off, that would just kill such a large part of the enjoyment of the show for me. I like other characters as well, but he's become my focus. For me, he makes an episode by being a part of it. When he's not in it, I feel like the show is missing such an important component.

It doesn't really matter who I would kill off, b/c there is always going to be someone that feels the opposite and tells me why they simply CANNOT be killed off. I wouldn't miss Jack at all. He bugs me. And his death would completely change the dynamic of the show, which would be interesting to me. But I realize that people have the same emotional connection and attachment to him that I have for Sawyer.

I think when you form a strong attachment to a character, or begin to relate to said character, losing them can easily kill your enjoyment of the show. It doesn't mean that the show isn't done well, it just means that some people lose that connection to the show. Or it simply becomes too much of a bummer to watch. Its more of an emotional reaction than an intellectual.

If Sawyer got killed off, that would just kill such a large part of the enjoyment of the show for me. I like other characters as well, but he's become my focus. For me, he makes an episode by being a part of it. When he's not in it, I feel like the show is missing such an important component.

It doesn't really matter who I would kill off, b/c there is always going to be someone that feels the opposite and tells me why they simply CANNOT be killed off.

YOU are a logical and rational woman! Nicely said!

Well, the writers did make it clear to everyone (I'm not sure which magazine this was in) to not get too attached to anyone.

Devastated? No, but I would certainly miss the shots of him coming up out of the water. ;)

I think I've finally put my finger on why this would upset me so much now: We would never understand Sawyer. They guy has such a bizarre, convoluted backstory so far removed from anyone's real life experience, I just can't see how JJ or anyone could wrap it up so quickly. He'd be the antisocial guy no one could really figure out. That would really frustrate me since Jack has such a simple backstory (so far) and is easy to understand. I don't want anyone I don't really understand to die yet.

I think Sawyer ironically is who we understand the most as fans....We have the most insight into what drives his modus operandi. His penchant for self punishment, how he acts negatively to gain the attention he seeks. And how his tragedy essentially caused him to become what he hated....This doesn;t make it unintersting though...Jack's backstory isn't simple imo-I find his as equally convoluted as Sawyer's & as interesting. An alcholic father who basically represses his son, Jack in turn takes on the responsibility for his father's happiness & therefore blame for his alcoholism. Launches into a life of trying to please his dad never attaining it, only to betray him & indirectly lead to his father's death. Then not only carrying the burden for what his relationship w/his dad did to him in his life, but now how Jack has to carry the guilt of his death. All while these issues creep into his responsibility as the leader & only doc-which are conflicts of interest.

Poor Jack & Sawyer both endured a great deal of emotional & psychological trauma from their father's selfishness* :'( I think it would be a shame not to delve further into both their stories. And while they seem so different, in how they outwardly manifest themselves, I find them highly complimentary to each other in how their pain is similar but from different circumstances.I wouldn't be surprised if they were brothers which would only intesify & deepen what i think, is a great paradoxical dynamic between them on the show.

Yikes, where to begin with this one Undecided I don't just want to ramble on about Sayid and Jack but I will say this. They are two LESS LIKELY to die as a NATURAL PROGRESSION of the story.

I have my evil spoiler reasons for thinking this. I shall leave it at that.

Hi Banshee, what's happenin ;D, It's always a pleasure to read your feedback...

Poor Jack & Sawyer both endured a great deal of emotional & psycholgical trauma from their father's selfishness I think it would be a shame not to delve further into both their stories. And while they seem so different, in how they outwardly manifest themselves, I find them highly complimentary to each other in how their pain is similar but from different circumstances.I wouldn't be surprised if they were brothers which would only intesify & deepen what i think, is a great paradoxical dynamic between them on the show.

I agree, that they both have severe emotional and psychological trauma. Jack's just happened to progress over a greater length of time, where's Sawyers has been behind him for awhile. The severity of both is what chases them, and I wouldn't be surprised if Jack snaps soon. Atleast Sawyer has an outlet, but Jacks probably been keeping all this anger and grief bottled up inside. It's only a matter of time...

As far as the 2 being brothers, I think it's very likely. Sawyer even called him "brother" in Whatever The Case May Be, when he was warning Jack not to trust Kate. I think Sawyer probably underestimates Jack and vice versa. As the show progresses, I could definately see them working together more. They may even decide, to hell with Kate . Maybe not, for their sake's I hope not, cause it's more fun to see the love triangle progress ;), but you never know with this show.

Here here to both Sawyer and Jack ending up on the same team :angel:

Hi Banshee, what's happenin* ;D, It's always a pleasure to read your feedback...

I agree, that they both have severe emotional and psychological trauma.* Jack's just happened to progress over a greater length of time, where's Sawyers has been behind him for awhile.* The severity of both is what chases them, and I wouldn't be surprised if Jack snaps soon.* Atleast Sawyer has an outlet, but Jacks probably been keeping all this anger and grief bottled up inside.* It's only a matter of time...

hey g- :D Good to see you in these parts *;D

I think you had a good & accurate analysis of the situation...It would certainly add to the drama if they were brothers wouldn't it? ;) I find the triangle very interesting despite our different preferences.... I do think the stress will *get to Jack *:-\ & that it's a yet unexplored dramatic avenue they could take his character down. I just hope he won't have to go through it alone :( , but I don't estimate he'd be down for the count for long. He's pretty resilient.

Another interesting thing is I think Kate is really bringing out Sawyer's softer side, & I think that's a plus. Just like MF said, I think we're seeing Jack be a bit more like Sawyer & vice vs. to get things done. It's adding to their complexity. Jack needs to be a bit more selfish, & Sawyer needs to be more selfless in order to be accepted as he wants...I'd imagine if Kate gravitates toward Sawyer now, it'll effect Jack detrimentally, & when & if Kate gravitates back to Jack, it will bring out the old Sawyer we 1st saw which was more salty than sweet. Either way there's lot of mileage left w/J/S, especially when they play off each other, it's like one's gravitational wave eventually reaches the other...I think they will wind up on the same team & may even respect each other <gasp> LOL.* :laugh:

If Jack would wind up being Sawyers only ally, I would be ok with that. I think it would be a great turnaround if and when other castaways attack Sawyer, Jack would stick up for him. If they did end up being brothers, I think that would be the biggest shock of them all. Ohhhhh, the possibilities :laugh:

Well, it happened on a mini me scale already because Jack did try to defend Sawyer against Sayid. Sayid had said he suspected Sawyer was who the one who sabotaged the transceiver, & Jack said we don't know that & tried to chase after Sayid before he got to Sawyer....What would be realllly interesting, is if Sawyer were put in the position of saving Jack since he said he watch him die if the tables were turned. I imagine we will get some of that. Juicy stuff....

As for bros-you can bet at first-even though Jack seemed privileged, got what he needed financially, his life sucked w/an alcoholic & distant father, that Sawyer would be more resentful of Jack for having a dad/getting "his life". Jack in turn would be resentful of Sawyer because his dad betrayed his mom & didn't tell him he had a brother. Eventually though I think Jack would be the 1st to come around & take a protective/accepting stance toward Sawyer, & then Sawyer would slowly become appreciative of that. Woah-I'd both consider it predictable & a shock if they were brothers LOL* :laugh:

I'm with Elfdream -

I probably would have never actually watched the show had it not been for my personal following and support of the LoTR's actors.* I have watched a lot of their individual appearances in TV/Movie as of late because I became attached to the actors/characters of LoTR's.* When I heard that Dominic would be in LOST I thought I would check out the show to see him in something different.* That's when I became a fan of Josh Holloway.* And now I have begun to watch him in different movies.

Everyone has particular actors that they like to follow in shows.* I have seen every Tom Hanks movie because I like Tom Hanks as an actor.* Same with Mel Gibson - LOVE him!*

All series have times when they have to adjust to new characters - BJ Honeycutt for Trapper John* on M.A.S.H. - look at Law and Order the original!!* How many times has that team changed?!?

Again, I bring up E/R.* The only originals left are Noah Wiley and the actress that plays Susan.* *The demise of old characters and the introduction of new characters has always been a "make or break" aspect of TV series.* It's up to JJ to risk the adjustments - some people will adjust also and continue to watch the show and some will not.* That's just the way the world works.

8) GL

<Again, I bring up E/R.* The only originals left are Noah Wiley and the actress that plays Susan.* *The demise of old characters and the introduction of new characters has always been a "make or break" aspect of TV series.* It's up to JJ to risk the adjustments - some people will adjust also and continue to watch the show and some will not.* That's just the way the world works.>

I agree Gettin...I mean I completely respect that it's JJ's decision to kill off whoever he chooses, but he has to know there will be consequences to that. The question becomes how* big of an impact that choice will have. It's a gamble, but as you've pointed out & I've discussed on some other threads, some ppl feel the demise of any of the characters won't have a detrimental effect, but I have to disagree. You have to be conscious of how each character fits into ppl's hearts I think, because sometimes the paradigm shift can be too much.

The real problem with ER is that it's too old. It should have ended a while back. Lost shouldn't go more than 4 or 5 seasons, lest it suffer the same fate.

First of all, let me answer the question.* Would I be devastated if Sawyer died?* I would have to say, Yes...I would.* I really enjoy his character.* At first I was thinking to myself, "Who is this guy?* What's his deal?"* When his "deal" started to unfold I just loved it.* For me, I love characters who are evil yet good inside.* That's what he is.* He's a bad boy with a heart.* I can't get enough of him.* Every episode I watch I hope he's in it just to see what he's going to do next.* When it comes down to it he's a good guy inside, but I think he doesn't want other people to see that.* He seems to find comfort in being the outcast at this time.* I figure during his life not on the island things were hard.* In episode 14 you saw him being arrested while Boone talked to an officer.* As they were taking him away he said something like "You won’t even listen to my side..."* I think he got that a lot in his life, so maybe he figures he's better off this way.* If he left the show now I would be very upset because I need to see what kind of man he can become.

Now lets see here....Jack and Sawyer brothers.....There is a connection between Jack and Sawyer, but I'm not so sure it is them being brother.* Whatever the case may be I think it's going to be shocking.* I don't really want to see Jack and Sawyer getting along at this point in the story because it's just too much tension to be lost when they are around each other.* It's like trying to put to magnets together at the same ends.* Doesn't work out to well.* I want to see more tension between them, but sooner or later you would thank they are going to have to get along.* I would love to see Sawyer save Jack just so he knows that he can be a hero too.

I don't like Jack very much.* I think he is very important to the show, and important to the people on the island.* I'm really sick of him being the hero all the time though.* Maybe it's like everybody says, when you really like one character you tend to not like the other character giving them the most problems.* Jack and Sawyer defiantly give each other the most problems....well except for maybe Sawyer and Sayid.* I was talking with my friend about that subject not to long ago, and I figured it's not just because of that.* Jack is the kind of character I just can't relate to.* (at this point)* Even though he's had a rough, father controlling, hard decision making life, Sawyer's problems just fit better with me.* At lot of us have felt like the outcasts, even by choice, and those of us can relate all to well with Sawyer.* Although I don't like Jack to much I don't want to see him die.* I think, like somebody else said, that he's going to break.* When Jack breaks it will be bad.* He keeps everything bottled up, and when it all comes out there's going to be hell to pay.* His emotions aren't healthy....or how he deals with them at least.* So, if he doesn’t die we will have some great character development there!

Getting back to Sawyer.* I have to add one more thing.* I loooooove the sexual tension between Kate and Sawyer.* Sure Jack would be the easy choice for her to pick if she had to.* But Sawyer, they seem to have a really odd connection.* I think their lives are similar in some way.* Although Kate seems to be disgusted with Sawyer a lot of the time, there's always that feeling of her understanding him.* You'll see her give a strange smile right before the camera goes off of her, or you'll see a look in her eye....the look of understanding.* It's odd and I can't wait for them to bond some more.* I'll be so thrilled if something comes of the two of them.* Even if it doesn't last, I think they should become allies.* They are both mysterious and I think they deserve each other.* Misery loves company!

Tarrish I'm a Sawyer/Kate shipper too.*;D I think they have great chemistry and would be a good match.* Kate could help Sawyer mend his wicked ways, and maybe vice versa.* I dont dislike Jack though.* Sawyer is my favorite character, but I can relate more to Jack personally.* Atleast with our father situations.* Sawyer is definately more magnetic, and I think his past and character is fascinating.* Which is probably what draws me to him.* I also think one of the reasons he has a solid fan base is because alot of people do know what it's like to be an outcast at one time or another in their lives.* I know I do.* But anyways, I hope it's not Sawyer or Jack.* They still have alot to give. JMO* ;)

Yes, absolutely, I'd be very unhappy to lose Sawyer. He's the most intriguing of the characters, IMO (with the possible exception of Locke), and it would be a shame to lose him before we'd even begun to scratch the surface of what's inside.

Plus - - Josh Holloway is REALLY hot. ;)

I'd just roll over and well die if they kill off Sawyer. I mean he's such an butt hole at times I just gotta love him. I mean he to me is a challenge and I like a challenge. He's got the cutest set of dimples I'd ever seen on a man and that grin. It'd bring the devil to his knees i'm thinking if the devils a she! lmao. Anywho I do like St. Jack too mm well Jack. He's pretty straight but i've noticed lately he's been not takin' much gull crap from anyone and keeps a level head. If I was Kate I'd be down right happy to be stuck on that island with both! ;D

<Sure Jack would be the easy choice for her to pick if she had to>

I don't want to go in to shipper debate ;) just cause I'll wander way off topic LOL...but briefly, I wouldn't say Jack is an easy choice or that she'd pick him as a last resort. He coaxes a lot of emotion out of Kate, more than she's probably comfortable with rt now since she's not a person used to sharing a lot, &* I think they could be good for one another as well because they're like ying/yang...Jack I think has always longed to be more of a free spirit like Kate & so she makes him feel a bit more free ironically. Also I don't think he's ever had someone take care of him...And for her, she's seen that even after she's lied to him, he's still there for her. They seem to be able to read each other w/o words, & I like how they respect/encourage each other's strength.... Anyhoo, it's all preference. Both K/S & J/K have a certain kind of appeal/chemistry & I think can be good for each other in different ways, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

I know what you mean about relation Tarrish....it's a good analysis of how you relate more to Sawyer. For me I relate more to Jack because he's just an average guy, trying to do the rt thing, but he's doesn't have all the answers, messes up sometimes, & has had to struggle w/falling into the abyss from the pain he's had in his life...None the less I can identify w/Sawyer's struggle as an outsider...I think Jack/Sawyer mirror each other in that Jack's pain results from trying to not fall in, & Sawyer's pain results because he did. The two extreme ends of the scale. They're both kinda lonely because they've had to withdraw in order to protect themselves emotionally. Lonely at the bottom, lonely at the top. Kate kinda needs counseling too ;) They're quite the trio :laugh:

They had said recently, the producers that is, that you'll be able to take Sawyer's flashbacks & put them together & kinda see how everyone is intertwined. So I think that speaks he plays a pretty significant role & they have no intention of getting rid of him.
I guess I hsould cloak this but* In addition they mentioned they were going to make "mini adventures" of Sawyer & his partner, like a show within a show. So I think Sawyer will be just fine* ;D

Sawyer is fine (literally). :-*

Hey bansh! Miss you girl! Glad to see your still up. I posted a question in our coffeeshop. Are you guys AIMing?

Oh yeah, Burky is on the LB right now. ;)

Di!!!! >pounces on & gives crushing hugs> funny to see you here loves ;)

I was just @ ABC but I bounced here. Yeah I'm still on AIM-I'm signed in so you should be able to zap me* ;D No I haven't caught the other girls, I think we're all keeping odd hours. Maybe I'll hop over to lb but if you wanna IM me feel free. I miss ya!* :( :mushy:

< know what you mean about relation Tarrish....it's a good analysis of how you relate more to Sawyer. For me I relate more to Jack because he's just an average guy, trying to do the rt thing, but he's doesn't have all the answers, messes up sometimes, & has had to struggle w/falling into the abyss from the pain he's had in his life...None the less I can identify w/Sawyer's struggle as an outsider...I think Jack/Sawyer mirror each other in that Jack's pain results from trying to not fall in, & Sawyer's pain results because he did. The two extreme ends of the scale. They're both kinda lonely because they've had to withdraw in order to protect themselves emotionally. Lonely at the bottom, lonely at the top. Kate kinda needs counseling too They're quite the trio >

I totally agree with the "two extreme ends of the scale." They are both lonely characters with two different stories. It's like the "hero" and the "villain" maybe not be different when you really come down to it. That's a really interesting theme.

I laughed when you said Kate needs counseling. This, I must say, I agree with as well. I really like her character. Thank God they put a woman in there that can take care of herself, even if she tends to lie and maybe a killer. lol.

Wow we've got Banshee and Diamond on this string, it's an honor ladies* ;D.

Agreed that Kate needs counseling* :lol2:

In her defense, she is a gemini though, so most of them always have that inner struggle going on between good and evil.* :angel:/ :devil:

Such is life though* ;).

shucks girlspy* :D Thanks it's always a pleasure to see ya...what insightful things does girls have to say* ;D Maybe Dr. Phil will emerge out of the background survivors because let's face it, all these ppl have issues & they could use some Phil love.* :lol2:

<I totally agree with the "two extreme ends of the scale."* They are both lonely characters with two different stories. It's like the "hero" and the "villain" maybe not be different when you really come down to it. That's a really interesting theme>
It is interesting. As Sawyer said, we're not all that different sweetheart.... I wouldn't so much call Jack the hero & Sawyer the villian though...I think MF's description was more accurate in how Jack/Sawyer seem 2 halves of the same person. Not in one being the angel & the other the devil, just in how they're both very human & the 2 extremes can cause a similar effect psychologically. Much like anorexia/obesity i.e., both often cause extreme sadness over appearance :( -the cause is different, but the effect is the same from an emotional standpoint.....Borrowing stuff by standardblack: For the most part Jack's this kind, caring, sensitive, good-guy type. But he's also shown his "baser, darker, intense" side sometimes, like when he was about to allow himself to engage in a fight w/ Sawyer on the beach & punched him for real later on. And I'd also label the moment when he found his father's empty coffin and unleashed all that rage as pretty intense and dark.

So Jack isn't all saint either. he's just been better @ hiding it...The other irony/similarity is Jack/Sawyer's worst enemy-is themselves. They have this ideal & in trying to live up to that, it causes them pain...I don't think we could fully appreciate each of their dynamics w/o the other to juxtapose against.

<I laughed when you said Kate needs counseling.* This, I must say, I agree with as well.* I really like her character.* Thank God they put a woman in there that can take care of herself, even if she tends to lie and maybe a killer.* lol.>
She needs to talk to Oprah* :laugh: have a girlfriend....ITA, I love that Kate is independent. I don't think she's a killer, & the compassion/caring she's capable of leads me to believe she's just made poor choices.

I love Sawyer and Jack both. I would be crushed if either of them were to go for different reasons all of which have been touched on (go Banshee!). I think Sawyer is sexier than Jack, but I tend to gravitate towards the Jack types for some reason. So I see Kate's upcoming dilemma....oh to be Kate. Lucky girl. Three things to take to a deserted island? Sawyer, Jack and lip gloss. :lol2:

hey karen* :D

lip gloss, Jack, Sawyer LOL!! I think they're both equally sexy in different ways. I guess Jack's intelligence & selflessness pushes him over the top for me-brains yummy....Yeah Evie's got it rough eh?* :angel: Let's see who will I smooch today-Josh, Matt, or Dom! Some have all the luck.* :P* :blink: Share the ice cream w/the rest of the class** ;D

The other irony/similarity is Jack/Sawyer's worst enemy-is themselves. They have this ideal & in trying to live up to that, it causes them pain...I don't think we could fully appreciate each of their dynamics w/o the other to juxtapose against.


Ooh, that is insightful! I never thought of it that way. Dr. Phil's got nothin' on you, banshee! ;)

That's right Banshee* - she should share the ice cream!* One scoop of Jack and one scoop of Sawyer please........ :hb2:* *maybe for my birthday (which I coincidentally share with Josh Holloway)*

I love Sawyer and Jack both.* *I would be crushed if either of them were to go for different reasons all of which have been touched on (go Banshee!).* * I think Sawyer is sexier than Jack, but I tend to gravitate towards the Jack types for some reason.* * So I see Kate's upcoming dilemma....oh to be Kate.* * Lucky girl.* * *Three things to take to a deserted island?* *Sawyer, Jack and lip gloss.* * *:lol2:


LOL!! :lol2:

* *Sawyer, Jack and lip gloss.* * *:lol2:


Now THAT sounds like a t-shirt!

<I don't think she's a killer, & the compassion/caring she's capable of leads me to believe she's just made poor choices.>

I didn't mean a killer in the "She's crazy serial killer girl." I meant more in the library term, "murderer." Whatever happened in her life I'm sure there are a lot of things behind it. She seems like a pretty good person that, like you said, has made some bad choices. Although some may call a person a murderer there are many reasons why people kill. I'm not condoning it in any way, I'm just saying things happen. So I think things happened. lol I want to know what!

Ummm....I love me some Sawyer too! He is a good looking guy. I'm into the scruff look.

LOL Tarrish all enquiring minds want to know* :laugh:

I know what you were getting at, I just think Kate blames herself for killing the man she loved but she didn't do it cold blood. There are many ways you can feel responsible for the death of someone w/o actually having killed them. Or it could have happened on accident... Kate freaks out everytime someone dies, & she broke down & balled when she revealed her secret to Jack. I just think when we find out her whole story, that she won't come off as bad as she does now.

LOL Tarrish all enquiring minds want to know* :laugh:

I know what you were getting at, I just think Kate blames herself for killing the man she loved but she didn't do it cold blood. There are many ways you can feel responsible for the death of someone w/o actually having killed them. Or it could have happened on accident... Kate freaks out everytime someone dies, & she broke down & balled when she revealed her secret to Jack. I just think when we find out her whole story, that she won't come off as bad as she does now.


I see what you're getting at. Maybe the man she loved didn't die by her own hands, but she blames herself. Good point. She's such a giving person it's almost hard to believe she would kill someone. Although maybe she's so giving now because she wants to redeem herself. It can go either way.

I really like Kate though. Great character.

Since this is Sawyer's place I should say something about him now. Umm...hehe. Hey, Sawyer's hot!

I'm excited about next week's ep because it's Sawyer time. Who's with me? lol

I'm with you Tarrish ;), I'm ready for an hour of Sawyerliciousness?

So back to Kate, yeah I dont think she would kill anyone in cold blood either. I think if she did kill someone it wasn't first hand, or it possibly could have been an accident. But yes, observing the way she acts when she see's human pain and suffering (Sawyer w/the stab wound, Charlie being lynched, Scott's body being carried away in a body bag,) she takes it seriously. I really would like to know more about her back story, cause you dont just wake up one day and decide to rob a bank. She must have had some sort of training for that. If only she would give us a little info. Bread crumbs people...

nope....

I cant wait for tonights epi, but I'm getting kinda worried about Sawyer though. A very credible source over on the abc boards named him along w/Boone and Sayid as one of the possible contenders to die in her theory string. I really dont want it to be Sawyer. Pleeeeeeeeease dont let it be Sawyer :'( .

I'm with you Girlspy! Everyone in Sawyerland hold hands and think "survival thoughts" for Josh/Sawyer!!

GL 8)

Count me in for the devastation.

*Sawyer will live . . . Sawyer will live . . *

They can't kill off my cowboy..he's still got too many one-liners to dish out !* *:lol2:

Stop the insomnia.... :pinch: I think I literally have a problem. Over the past few nights, I have been lying in bed awake at night worrying, stressing and having nightmares about our beloved dying. Any suggestions on vanquishing or compartmentalizing these horrible thoughts?

Stop the insomnia.... :pinch: I think I literally have a problem. Over the past few nights, I have been lying in bed awake at night worrying, stressing and having nightmares about our beloved dying. Any suggestions on vanquishing or compartmentalizing these horrible thoughts?


As a teenager, I had a horrible nightmare once when we were camping..don't know why..but I woke up screaming. The next night my friends mom gave me a shot of whiskey to help me sleep :laugh:. Always liked her mom....but anyway, it did work!
A shot of whiskey and warm fuzzy thoughts of Josh before bed... :-* We're here to help!!

Thanks cinamin ;). I'll give it a try. I've been taking melatonin, but that always seems to leave me feeling like my sleep is artificial. It doesn't help either that I've recently become unemployed. Too many things on my mind. Maybe when the world stops spinning I can relax :D. LOL though, thanks for the advice.

Thanks cinamin* ;).* I'll give it a try.* I've been taking melatonin, but that always seems to leave me feeling like my sleep is artificial. It doesn't help either that I've recently become unemployed.* Too many things on my mind.* Maybe when the world stops spinning I can relax* :D. LOL though, thanks for the advice.


Sorry about the job, girlspy. If only talking on the Fuselage were a job, life would be great . . .

I know how you feel about losing sleep. I was going through that a while back and it was all because I was worried they'd kill off Sawyer (think we have too much time on our hands?). Even if they do kill him off, which I don't believe they will, we can still look forward other projects with Josh Holloway. Unfortunately it's the character of Sawyer that we're really attached to.

Sad as it is to say, Lost is one of the highlights of my life right now, and in particular Sawyer's character. Call it escapism if you will, it's better for me that iliicit drugs or chocolate *yum*. I just try to enjoy what we do get every week on Lost, and hang out with you and the other Devotees at D.I.M.P.L.E.S. and that seems to help.

Also not going on the Fuse before bed. I'm still struggling with that one! :P ::)

I know how you feel about losing sleep. I was going through that a while back and it was all because I was worried they'd kill off Sawyer (think we have too much time on our hands?). Even if they do kill him off, which I don't believe they will, we can still look forward other projects with Josh Holloway. Unfortunately it's the character of Sawyer that we're really attached to.

Sad as it is to say, Lost is one of the highlights of my life right now, and in particular Sawyer's character. Call it escapism if you will, it's better for me that iliicit drugs or chocolate *yum*. I just try to enjoy what we do get every week on Lost, and hang out with you and the other Devotees at D.I.M.P.L.E.S. and that seems to help.

Totally TRoss, Karri has my dream job ;D. It's ok. The unemployment thing just started sink in for me though. I was just laid off and my last day was Friday, so now realization is kicking in, and the extra stress from all this Sawyer dying business is not good for me either. Thanks so much for your support though. It means alot. I have an interview tomorrow morning, so we'll see how that goes. ::)

I totally agree about the escapism thing too. I definately enjoy watching the show, and talking w/you all, especially the Dimples and Outkasts ;), over going to a party or a night club any time. Why force small talk or feel like you have to get wasted when we can talk amongst kindred spirits here? :)

Anyhoo, hopefully things will get better. Over on the abc boards it seems like everyone is freaking out about their favorite character dying as well. Especially the poor Sayid shippers-a nice bunch. I guess were all in the same boat here...

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Why force small talk or feel like you have to get wasted when we can talk amongst kindred spirits here?

Amen, sister. ;)

Good luck on the interview tomorrow. Try to channel some of Sawyer's confidence . . . oh, wait, he's not a real person. Damn.

Okay, all the Dimples will be sending you their positive thoughts. Good luck, girl. I'd hire you. ;)

Ahh, Thanks TRoss, I'll just keep thinking "What would Sawyer do?" I know were both pessimists, but I can learn a little from his opportunistic ways if the anxiety doesn't get to me first ;). LOL.

Viva la Sawyer!!!

Ah, yes! Good thinking! You will be a valuable asset. ;)

Ahh, Thanks TRoss, I'll just keep thinking "What would Sawyer do?" I know were both pessimists, but I can learn a little from his opportunistic ways if the anxiety doesn't get to me first ;). LOL.*

Viva la Sawyer!!!


It would be nice to make one of those bracelets with the WWSD letters. Keep the non-fans guessing, too.* ::)

Alane

Well, I thought I should bump this up for some new thoughts now that we've had another Sawyer-centric episode ;) .

I'm hopeful for Sawyer; I really can't think of any way that his death would create dynamic storylines for the other characters. It's been suggested that he could die saving Jack and be "redeemed" but I don't think that's nearly as interesting as watching him struggle with defining his morality on the island. Sawyer still has so much backstory for us to learn about and his character is consistently surprising and layered so I'm cautiously optimistic :) .

I'm hopeful for Sawyer; I really can't think of any way that his death would create dynamic storylines for the other characters. It's been suggested that he could die saving Jack and be "redeemed" but I don't think that's nearly as interesting as watching him struggle with defining his morality on the island. Sawyer still has so much backstory for us to learn about and his character is consistently surprising and layered so I'm cautiously optimistic Smiley .

Totally Bliss, I think death would be an easy way out in his case. It would be much more interesting to see Sawyers struggle. I'm trying to be positive too, ;)

I just cannot see why they would take the guy who has the MOST POTENTIAL to add to EVERY plot in so many ways and get rid of him. Obviously his role was originally much shorter and smaller and they have realized how totally amazing an actor he is - and how much we adore him - and have worked with it.

To me it would make NO SENSE to get rid of one of the most valuable assets they have.

They better not anyways they just cant!

There are so many ways and so much they can do with Sawyer that it would be ashame if they threw that all away.

Sawyer needs to be given time to find out who he is on the island. Proceeding that it would be great to see him going through the struggles of shedding off the skin of his alter ego. I don't want Sawyer to lose his touch because he is funny, but I want to see more real moments with him. James moments if you will.

They can stretch out his inner struggles so far, and his flashbacks have the ability to be action packed and or drama filled everytime. He's the cowboy. I also think they have so much to go on with the love triangle, and I want to see more of that. When he's with Kate I just get a gussy inside.

Amen Sister Preach it to the Choir! :lol2:

Why would they begin the triangle to dissolve it before any of the 3 had dealt with their inner issues. That said I now have a different person in mind to be the one to go....I dont want ANY of the cast to go honestly.

lol

I can't believe a cast member is going so soon myself. I wish they could all stay, and I don't even want to think about one of them going. I have my suspicions as well, and whatever happens the finale is going to be horribly sad.

I'd be absolutely devastated. Sawyer is one of the most interesting characters, and, in my opinion, he is the counterpart to Locke. They're like two sides of the same coin, only that we haven't got to know much about Sawyer. He is too much of a smartass so he's probably as observant as Locke, for example. He's heard the whispers, he read part of Claire's diary (I don't buy it was just for morbid curiosity)...the information he may be gathering and putting altogether may be necessary at some point, as it would be his intelligence.
Plus, like several of you have said, Sawyer's death wouldn't cause much change nor have real repercussions (besides the one on the audience, probably) on the other character's dynamics.
Remember when Sayid stabbed Sawyer: he said to Jack something like "If I was in your place, I'd watch you die". I'd like to see Sawyer confronted to that situation, without having to sacrifice himself, like some people are suggesting at other forums.

I like Jack too, but his character has had more room for development. If I had to choose one to die, it would be Jack. His death would cause a chaos on the rest of the people, a state of anarchy, Sawyer may want to take the lead, Locke may want to come forth as the new boss. Anyway, I wouldn't like Jack to die either...
Finally, Josh Holloway brings one of the best performances of* the series, it would be a pity to lose that (same happens with Terry O'Quinn).

I'd be very unhappy if they killed off Sawyer. I think he's very misunderstood.

You sure are right Miseria. Misunderstood is one of the top words I would use to describe Sawyer. I have even more choice words, but I think we all know about those. :D

I think we're getting worked up over nothing I've always thought it was Boone......wonder why AOL only used Ian as one of it's celebrity voices you can pick from that's cause he won't be along for long :-\

The Sawyer character needs some serious help. To have kept the vengence thing going for
so long, to live only to see vengence and then to get used and suckered into killing someone
because of the obsession with vengence, Sawyer is his own worst enemy. But- Josh is
drop dead gorgeous and it would make me sick if they off'ed Sawyer. Sawyer reminds me
of the Kelly Clarkson song: 'Beautiful Disaster".

He drowns in his dreams
An exquisite extreme I know
He’s as damned as he seems
And more heaven than a heart could hold
And if I try to save him
My whole world could cave in
It just ain’t right
It just ain’t right

Oh and I don’t know
I don’t know what he's after
But he's so beautiful
Such a beautiful disaster
And if I could hold on
Through the tears and the laughter
Would it be beautiful,
Or just a beautiful disaster?

His magical myth
As strong as what I believe
A tragedy with
More damage than a soul should see
And do I try to change him?
So hard not to blame him
Hold on tight
Hold on tight

Oh cuz I don’t know
I don’t know what he’s after
But he’s so beautiful
Such a beautiful disaster
And if I could hold on
Through the tears and the laughter
Would it be beautiful,
Or just a beautiful disaster?

I'm longing for love and the logical
But he's only happy hysterical
I'm waiting for some kind of miracle
Waitin' so long
So long

He’s soft to the touch
But frayed at the end he breaks
He’s never enough
And still hes more than I can take
Oh cuz I don’t know
I don’t know what he’s after
But he's so beautiful
Such a beautiful disaster
And if I could hold on
Through the tears and the laughter
Would it be beautiful,
Or just a beautiful disaster?

He’s beautiful
Such a beautiful disaster

Nice song reference there. I liked it.

Hopefully Sawyer grows on the island. He needs to move forward in his life, but his past is dragging him under.