Ethan is, without question, one of the most terrifying villians I've ever seen in television or film. The way his character is written, the way he is portrayed, the way he hung that poor hobbit... it will be incredibly satisfying to see Ethan's demise... but while it is excrutiating thinking that he's still out there and to think of all the horrible things he can (and most likely will do), I hope he's around for a while.

Oh, not me lol. Ethan can bite the dust and I'll go yea. That seems harsh, but after what he did to Charlie and Claire, I couldn't stand to even look him in the face, let alone want him in my vicinity

but after what he did to Charlie and Claire

Let me ask you: what did he do?

I'll offer my rebuttal before your response. You don't know. They have not shown Ethan doing anything. The way this show is written you can't be sure of anything unless it's show in full color in front of you (and maybe not even then).

Only thing that we can pin on him is fighting with Jack... but many people say that might not have actually happened. Jack was the only one there when it happened and it seems that people are prone to hallucination when in the jungle, it would appear.

Now, I'm not saying he's a good guy. I'm not saying anything but you can't go around saying he's evil or that he did this or that to a person. Truth is, we just don't know.

He could be a good guy with very poor social skills..what with living in the jungle and everything... :laugh:

I have this sneaking supicion he's going to be killed..and his body left hanging up in the forest to serve as a warning to 'the others'.

It probably won't happen but I would like it.* ;D That is of course if he is a* 'bad' guy.

I feel so stupid now. I never even considered that Ethan might not be a bad guy.

I would think that Charlie would have mentioned it if it was true that Ethan didn't really kidnap and hang him, though. But still, Ethan may have been trying to save Claire and knocked out Charlie because he thought Charlie was dangerous or whatever. No, no, I've seen the previews for next week's ep... it doesn't make sense right now, but it would be a really exciting twist!

The only problem with sending a warning to the Others, is *How many Others are there?*.

There have been times in my life when I felt 10 feet tall and bullit proof whenin a dispute with one or two other people, but never when the opposition was unknown. That would be pretty foolhearty. For all they know the island has an *Others* population of thousands, who might just be put into an excessively bad mood if a paltry group od less than forty presumed to try and "warn" them about anything.

The only problem with sending a warning to the Others, is *How many Others are there?*.

There have been times in my life when I felt 10 feet tall and bullet proof when in a dispute with one or two other people, but never when the opposition was unknown. That would be pretty foolhearty. For all they know the island has an *Others* population of thousands, who might just be put into an excessively bad mood if a paltry group od less than forty presumed to try and "warn" them about anything.


...If there are thousands, then you go out "guns-a-blazin" if you have to. We know he took Claire and we are pretty sure he hung Charlie since Charlie never disputed it. He kicked Jack's butt pretty good and threatened to "kill them if you follow". We also saw what he said to Charlie in this weeks up coming episode. Regardless of not fully understanding what Ethan's intentions are at the moment, he acted hostilly and without warning. If the gang can take Ethan alive and interrogate him for more info, great. If he still resist while captured, then call in Sayid. If he still resist, then hold him and torture him until he sings. There is no other options at the moment. It isn't a question of feeling 10' tall or being "hot heads", it's a question of responding when your people are taken and or harmed. You do what you have to do. I'd BEG him to resist me after what he did to Claire. The only people that care for Flight 815's passengers at the moment are Flight 815's passengers. I don't think I'd string him up from a tree, but I'd having his "holding area" very close to the jungle brush so he could be heard while resisting if you catch my drift...................Sorry if that's hostile, but you don't take my "baby momma" ;) and not pay the piper.....plus I had too much coffee today >:(

One thing I was thinking after watching this past week again was the way Ethan reacted when Charlie told him to go get Jack. He ligitimately looked worried and asked if she was OK.
I'm thinking he was there to monitor Claire and her pregnancy, when he thought she might be having her baby, he had to take action.

One thing I was thinking after watching this past week again was the way Ethan reacted when Charlie told him to go get Jack.* He legitimately looked worried and asked if she was OK.
I'm thinking he was there to monitor Claire and her pregnancy, when he thought she might be having her baby, he had to take action.





I can see that being the case. He could be misunderstood. Then again he's the leading candidate for Charlie's hanging. 5 days until we get a much better idea......I hope anyway!

It's interesting that he gives pretty much the same threat to Charlie that he gave to Jack, "If you don't _____, I'll kill one of them."

And for that very reason, I cannot see Ethan being anything other than the villain

Watching like "Raised by Another" again he looks kinda geeky + nice, but in the back of ur mind ur always like scary mannnn! He's so scary!

I think he probably is evil. But one distinction should be made... he is (most likely) not the ultimate evil. Yes yes, I'm leaning towards the whole Watership Down theory.

First of all, he wasn't on the plane. At all. That can't be a good sign.

And second, you can not tell me that you didn't get seriously evil vibes from him at the end of Raised By Another, when Claire and Charlie are in the jungle and he just shows up right as Hurley says that Ethan wasn't on the plane.

I think he's evil. Not the Big Baddie, but definately evil. And after all that's happened, they're not just going to sit him down and talk to him either. When we see him this Wednesday, it'll be the final battle with him, at least for now.

I want Ethan to be around for a while. He is one of my favorite characters.

I watched The Grudge last night, which stars none other than William Mapother, aka ETHAN. His name was Matthew, he wasn't evil, just another victim.

Kinda makes you wonder what kind of terms he's on with his cousin.

Seems like if they got on well, that he would not be playing victims and part time bad guys on a TV series.

Not that I think Tom Cruise should give the guy a career, but it does seem like he would give him a part (maybe in one of the smaller projects his production company does) that would showcase his talents and put him in a better position to get gigs based on his own merit.

Mapother has been in several of Cruise's films: Minority Report, Vanilla Sky, Mission Impossible II, Magnolia, and Born on the Fourth of July.

Yes, I know he has had small parts. I meant that I would have thought he might have been given a more featured part that would demonstrate his range. (assuming he has any) Not a starring role, just something with a little meat to it.

It just seems like that would be more useful to him. To help him become something more than Tom Cruise's cousin.

Yeah but what if william is just happy with the smaller roles, not everyone in the acting business wants to be a star.

If that's the case, then that's cool too. :)

Or maybe he's not that good. We have only briefly seen Ethan; if Mapother were a better actor, perhaps he would be in a different role... say, Sawyer or Jack?

William Mapother's ("Ethan") characters just give me the creeps anyway. He plays the villian in so many movies! He did an excellent job in "Lost" as Ethan.......He is also Tom Cruise's first cousin..........