What do you think? Are Danielle and Alex really mother and daughter? Do you expect a dramatic reunion scene somewhere along the line?

I think her story is pretty powerful; alone and grieving for 16 years, and I think it's also true; Alex is the one. She's been lied to about her parents as well. Events will come about to put doubt into that and she'll find the woman in the jungle. Big fireworks. It would mean Alex coming over to the lostie side and changing the balance of power too.

IMHO, the Alex/Danielle "reunion" will happen THIS SEASON, during the 16-17 eppy run starting in February.

I can't wait! :kicking:

IMHO, the Alex/Danielle "reunion" will happen THIS SEASON, during the 16-17 eppy run starting in February.

I can't wait! :kicking:

I wish you are right, STH! But I'm not so sure about it.

Although, if


Alex is a regular this year, her story will be important, and eventually it might lead to a reunion.

I can't wait too :)

I feel certain that Alex and Danielle will reunite..it's much too powerful a storyline for TPTB to let fall between the cracks. It would hopefully answer questions about Danielle's companions on her boat and most certainly give more insight to the Others, especially why they were taking children..other than to "train" them I mean.

Just not certain if they will reunite in this season.

Gee, you try to give people encouragement, and all they do is :chair: you!

:crybaby:



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Gee, you try to give people encouragement, and all they do is :chair: you!

:crybaby:



;)

Sorry, STH! They will reunite soon! ;) (May all you good predictions come true!!!)

Would never want to :chair: your hopes, STH...I agree with Lea...I hope you ARE right (just not sure about it...) :smile:

Luv ya, girls! :group:

Be freaky if Alex went to her mom for help in getting J/J/K free, don't ya think?

I hope Danielle and Alex reunite if they are truly mother and daughter. I wonder if Alex has known about Danielle's existence but was told by the Others that she is not who she says she is. In any case, I want to know more about their story.

I don't have many good ideas on them now, but one is;
You remember that scene in Solitary where Danielle was so happy to have her music box fixed? A strange thing to see for a woman who comes off as Ms. Rambo I think. Could it be that music or the sight of the dancing man and woman on the box is lodged in the back of Alex's mind from her infancy, and she'll see it once again and know?

OOOOO! Good one, Billy! :clapping:

I am really looking forward to the reunion. I can see it going two very different ways. It could either be touching and heartbreaking, and they'd you know, stay together, or it'll be something dramatic that brings them together, and Alex will do something that seems bad and the Frence woman will be really upset.

Wow, that was one long sentence

I don't have many good ideas on them now, but one is;
You remember that scene in Solitary where Danielle was so happy to have her music box fixed? A strange thing to see for a woman who comes off as Ms. Rambo I think. Could it be that music or the sight of the dancing man and woman on the box is lodged in the back of Alex's mind from her infancy, and she'll see it once again and know?

Danielle did come off as Ms Rambo, or a nutter who steals children and shoots people, but exactly that scene you talk about shows that she is only a desperate woman who actually survived all by herself for 16 years on the freaky island, searching for her lost baby. She is one tragic character, and I can only join STH in her wish that her sufferings will end soon....

Danielle did come off as Ms Rambo, or a nutter who steals children and shoots people, but exactly that scene you talk about shows that she is only a desperate woman who actually survived all by herself for 16 years on the freaky island, searching for her lost baby. She is one tragic character, and I can only join STH in her wish that her sufferings will end soon...


Agree, Lea...Danielle is tragic, but I think more importantly, as you stated, she's a survivor. She's been kicking butt with the whispers, monster (whatever/whomever..we have to wait and see), she's set traps all over the island...she's a mother bear searching for her cub - yes, she Mrs. Rambo...more power to her.
She's half in the bag from the situation but still hangin' in...she knows just what she's doing and will do almost anything to get what she wants...Alex.
Just hope TPTB don't pull a fast one with her...I need her to be good

Agree, Lea...Danielle is tragic, but I think more importantly, as you stated, she's a survivor. She's been kicking butt with the whispers, monster (whatever/whomever..we have to wait and see), she's set traps all over the island...she's a mother bear searching for her cub - yes, she Mrs. Rambo...more power to her.
She's half in the bag from the situation but still hangin' in...she knows just what she's doing and will do almost anything to get what she wants...Alex.
Just hope TPTB don't pull a fast one with her...I need her to be good

I couldn't agree more, SLF! It will be interesting to watch if she will recognize Alex, when she meets her. And she will meet her in S3, I feel that in my bones! :biggrin:

I couldn't agree more, SLF! It will be interesting to watch if she will recognize Alex, when she meets her. And she will meet her in S3, I feel that in my bones! :biggrin:


Oh I hope you're right...I really want to see her soon...I think Danielle has the "mom radar" going and will recognize Alex immediately...that's how I see it happening!

Oh I hope you're right...I really want to see her soon...I think Danielle has the "mom radar" going and will recognize Alex immediately...that's how I see it happening!

I'm thinking, maybe Kate can help them out. She found out some things about Danielle and her lost child in Maternity Leave, and now in the "other" camp she might get close to Alex, and put one and one together...

I'm thinking, maybe Kate can help them out. She found out some things about Danielle and her lost child in Maternity Leave, and now in the "other" camp she might get close to Alex, and put one and one together...]


Hey, that's true, Lea..forgot all about Kate in that instance. Good thinking!

I'm thinking, maybe Kate can help them out. She found out some things about Danielle and her lost child in Maternity Leave, and now in the "other" camp she might get close to Alex, and put one and one together...

Good one. I was guessing they'd drag this out for another season, but with Kate and Alex in the same place in season 3, something's probably going to happen.

That would be great! We need more female characters getting in on the action and driving the plot forward rather than being relegated to the background, keeping their silence despite all that they've seen, heard, and observed.

That would be great! We need more female characters getting in on the action and driving the plot forward rather than being relegated to the background, keeping their silence despite all that they've seen, heard, and observed.


Sure would be, LIB...and I especially want more of Danielle - she was always a great character and I was waiting for them to bring her back last season..I know they had a lot of new character lines to bring in, but it's past time now. Also think it would be really good to get Kate into Danielle's realm...and then Alex of course, bet she'll do some damage as well.

ALEX!! ALEX!! ALEX!! :biggrin:

What do you think? Are Danielle and Alex really mother and daughter? Do you expect a dramatic reunion scene somewhere along the line?

I think her story is pretty powerful; alone and grieving for 16 years, and I think it's also true; Alex is the one. She's been lied to about her parents as well. Events will come about to put doubt into that and she'll find the woman in the jungle. Big fireworks. It would mean Alex coming over to the lostie side and changing the balance of power too.I came up with a theory while reading another thread last night.

What if Danielle only killed some but not all of her team and what if her husband took Alex because he feared for her being with Danielle? Then, as the years pass, and Danielle continues to seem "off," he joins with the Others to give Alex some kind of a family? Since I know Mira is 50 but looks younger, it's hard to tell how old she's supposed to be. But ... could Zeke/Tom be her husband, be Alex's dad? I'm not sure I like this since Zeke came across as rather stupid when Henry called him on no wearing his beard ... but it's a thought I had.

But I am sure they will reunite, in some way, come S3.

Uh. . .no.

Danielle told the lostaways (in "Exodus, Part I") that "They" came and took Alex when she was a week old!

The Others have been raising her since Day 7 of her life, then. I'd like to know when she went from "experimental social upbringing" subject to "trusted member of the society." Maybe in her backstory?

Uh. . .no.

Danielle told the lostaways (in "Exodus, Part I") that "They" came and took Alex when she was a week old!

The Others have been raising her since Day 7 of her life, then. I'd like to know when she went from "experimental social upbringing" subject to "trusted member of the society." Maybe in her backstory?
Ok, then maybe her husband made a deal with "them" to take Alex because he couldn't bring himself to do it. Just throwing out theories here. Feel free to catch one if you like. ;)

Whatever/whoever separated them--they'll be together again soon! :clap:

I predict an emotional and heart-wrenching reunion for Danielle and Alex...followed by an untimely death for Danielle at the hands of The Others, and one very pissed-off Alex!

I think the transmission said 'they were all dead', so I'm not expecting Robert to pop up.

A key question is; did Danielle kill them for justifiable reasons? I think her team contracted a disease she could'nt treat, and also knew the 'others' could'nt save them, so did a mercy killing. If she killed them in a state of insanity or unnecessarily, then I'm lost as to why they're even telling the story because it's pointless for one thing, and she would'nt deserve her daughter back either. I have to believe Danielle is an innocent victim here, and more than worthy of reuniting with Alex.

Another interesting thing; her line to Sayid was "we were part of a science team...", so who was the "other" part, and where are they? Why didn't she just say "we were the science team?" Someone is missing. The first thing I want to think is that our "others", or their c.1988 predecessors, were those people, but I can't explain how they managed to find the island when it was likely cloaked. Maybe they were Dharma all along, and she didn't know it?

So many interesting characters and ideas that are getting more attention, but most of my curiousity still lies with Danielle. She's been kept in the shadows yet seems to be connected with more than anyone else is.

I came up with a theory while reading another thread last night.

What if Danielle only killed some but not all of her team and what if her husband took Alex because he feared for her being with Danielle? Then, as the years pass, and Danielle continues to seem "off," he joins with the Others to give Alex some kind of a family? Since I know Mira is 50 but looks younger, it's hard to tell how old she's supposed to be. But ... could Zeke/Tom be her husband, be Alex's dad? I'm not sure I like this since Zeke came across as rather stupid when Henry called him on no wearing his beard ... but it's a thought I had.

But I am sure they will reunite, in some way, come S3.
I'm pretty sure Danielle told Sayid she killed her husband (Robert) herself. She told Sayid she'd removed the firing pin from the same rifle that Sayid got hold of in Solitary. But, some other still-remaining member of her team that she hadn't offed yet might have taken the baby for its own good...the idea has merit...

What I wonder is why the Others didn't just change the name of the baby to eliminate that clue. It's standard operating procedure for most baby-nappers (well, I don't know any personally, but the ones you hear about on the news and in Lifetime channel movies do...:biggrin: )

I am really looking forward to a Danielle/Alex reunion, and I bet Kate will have something to do with it. It's great how Alex has a good moral nature despite having been raised by these lunatics.

What I wonder is why the Others didn't just change the name of the baby to eliminate that clue.
Because the LOST writers told Them that They couldn't? :24:

Alex' finer moral nature might be due to the influence of some of The Others who have scruples themselves. I don't think that The Others are as Stepford in their behavior as we've been made to think. . . .

Because the LOST writers told Them that They couldn't? :24:

Alex' finer moral nature might be due to the influence of some of The Others who have scruples themselves. I don't think that The Others are as Stepford in their behavior as we've been made to think. . . .

Well, the writers seriously underestimate the Lost fans who would have figured it out anyway even if she were named Rita!

I have yet to see an Other who would have been a good influence on Alex, but I guess we'll find out soon.

Maybe this
Juliet person
will turn out to be TRULY good! That would sure explain why
Jack would be "intrigued" by her!

I just want more of ALEX' story, please! :book:

Ok, then maybe her husband made a deal with "them" to take Alex because he couldn't bring himself to do it. Just throwing out theories here. Feel free to catch one if you like. ;)

I found your theory a little bit far-fetched at first glance, but we are talking about Lost, aren't we? There are no unlikely theories. ;)
I thought of something the other day, that might support your idea. Alex was one week old when they took her. Why did they keep her name? One thing is how they knew her name, but why keep it? They have provided her with a brand new life, new identity, new home, why not a new name? This way her mother will recognize her easier will they meet... If she was called something else she could have blended in more easily, was harder to identify her... Unless it was all planned that way of course :undecide:

I found your theory a little bit far-fetched at first glance, but we are talking about Lost, aren't we? There are no unlikely theories. ;)
I thought of something the other day, that might support your idea. Alex was one week old when they took her. Why did they keep her name? One thing is how they knew her name, but why keep it? They have provided her with a brand new life, new identity, new home, why not a new name? This way her mother will recognize her easier will they meet... If she was called something else she could have blended in more easily, was harder to identify her... Unless it was all planned that way of course :undecide:

Good points.

It seems they either knew her name was Alex because the new owners are former acquaintances, or they were secretly 'monitoring' her like the others monitor the losties now.

Keeping her real name might imply the others intended on giving her back in the future, or else the writers needed the audience to make the connection between this girl and the baby in Danielle's story. In other words, if they'd named her something else, we might be thinking now that Danielle was wrong and she's completely nuts.

Good points.

Keeping her real name might imply the others intended on giving her back in the future, or else the writers needed the audience to make the connection between this girl and the baby in Danielle's story. In other words, if they'd named her something else, we might be thinking now that Danielle was wrong and she's completely nuts.

I thought of that too, but it is such lame excuse... They would have had thousands of ways to solve that impediment.
There is another issue to the Alex problem. There is a great question, what do they need subjects for? Why do they kidnap people? The first option is that they make experiments on them; they need subjects for their work, whatever that is. But if that is the case, how come Alex became one of them? Instead of a slave/labrat she is a trusted member of the group. So they have some sort of secret society and enrole people for that? That explains why they want children and "good" persons...

The children, I think, are taken to raise into the "society" The Others have developed. Why the adults are taken--well, I think we'll be learning that in October/November! :eek:

Maybe Alex (though only a week old!) responded when They said her name to her. They'd see she was already conditioned to respond to that name, and they kept it.

The adults are probably kidnapped and brainwashed to help with "rearing" the children, to make the transition easier....for example, Zack and Emma were probably more able to become integrated into The Others' society if The Others co-opted some of the kidnapped adult Tailies into persuading Zack and Emma to conform.

It does make me wonder how many other children The Others have abducted, since the only ones we've seen are Alex, Zack, Emma, and Walt. I imagine they've gotten more from SOMEPLACE.

There is another issue to the Alex problem. There is a great question, what do they need subjects for? Why do they kidnap people? The first option is that they make experiments on them; they need subjects for their work, whatever that is. But if that is the case, how come Alex became one of them? Instead of a slave/labrat she is a trusted member of the group. So they have some sort of secret society and enrole people for that? That explains why they want children and "good" persons...

I think Alex was a special case...since they abducted her when she was so young, it was easy for them to raise her as "one of them."

Walt, on the other hand, was much older when the Seabillies took him, and obviously more resistant to The Others' tactics.

Zack and Emma might have been a little easier to manipulate, since they were younger than Walt.

I'm still tempted to think that there are more children in Others Central than just Zack and Emma, because when Zeke said "The children are fine" it just felt like he would be referring to more than three or four.

Something like that, yeah.

One of the original Tailies who disappeared during the kidnappings showed up in LTDA as one of the others who bagged Jack and Kate, so I think that was a clue they sent us that some have been indoctrinated and are now Dharma team members.

I think they screened all the kidnapees first to look for certain qualities and tested those. If they had some they tested them, like Walt. If not, they made them workers. Walt failed the tests and didn't fit as a worker either so they dealt him away.

We don't know:

1. How long The Others have been there. The Hanso/DeGroot split, the Cerberus "malfunction," and The Incident all happened in the 1980s. So maybe some of the scientists (who became The Others) had their families with them? Some kids may have spent most of their lives on the Island!

2. How many other "crashes" have occurred on the Island SINCE the 1980s events, and how many of the survivors were children.

3. How many children were born to Others and survivors in the interim.

Co-opted adults may well be given the choice: join our society or become lab rats. And, of course, They would mess with their heads to get them leaning toward the former choice. This may well be what happens to J/J/K during eppys 1-6. We'll get to see "the process." What Goodwin's definition of "better off" is. :eek:

IMHO, Danielle was/is a long-term "field experiment" for The Others. How does a lone, loony lab rat cope and survive in the jungle over the years? In a sense, Danielle AND Alex have been the subjects of social experimentation for the last 16 years!

IMHO, Danielle was/is a long-term "field experiment" for The Others. How does a lone, loony lab rat cope and survive in the jungle over the years? In a sense, Danielle AND Alex have been the subjects of social experimentation for the last 16 years!

Yeah, I could imagine some kind of Dharma-like parapsychology study in finding if two people connected by blood could form any kind of mental or psychic connection despite being separated, whether the child would develop traits of the mother despite no contact, or something of that sort. It's a good idea to play with. In fact, can't you see some of Danielle's fortitude in Alex?

Oh, yes.

I've little doubt that once they meet, they'll sense the connection between them immediately.

The trick, of course, is getting them to meet. . . .

Oh, yes.

I've little doubt that once they meet, they'll sense the connection between them immediately.

The trick, of course, is getting them to meet. . . .

That's an interesting thought, even if there is a great chance that Alex has no clue about her mother being the crazy jungle lady (because she must know about her existence, it is not that big of an island...). They might even told her that somebody else is her mother, some member of their group or something...

But have them together and see what happens, that's my only wish :rolleyes:

Well, I have around 10,000 wishes where LOST is concerned, Lea--but the Danielle/Alex meeting is one of those! :D

(because she must know about her existence, it is not that big of an island...).

Hold onto that thought, Lea...

there is buzz that since the size of the island is unknown, it may be much larger than most people are imagining it to be.

Seen the maps. Have noted that it takes less than a day to get from Beach Camp to Medical Station, and from Swan Station to Pearl Station (I think Michael just led them the long way around from Beach Camp to Tube Graveyard--the distance from Pearl to Graveyard couldn't be that far. Most tube tubes only go a few dozen/hundred yards at banks. I think the same holds here. But this is OT. Sorry.). Didn't take Jin & Sun long at all to sail Sayid to the phony village.

I really don't think the Island's that big--but the EMT thingy distorts perspective, and makes it seem the place is bigger, somehow? Just grasping at ideas here. . . .

Anyway, The Others know of Danielle. Alex is an Other. Thus, Alex must at least KNOW of Danielle. Probably has seen her from a distance. Maybe there was a REASON Alex left Claire where she did? Maybe Alex (who doubtless has good night vision!) saw/sensed Danielle nearby, and thus left Claire where Danielle would find her? Just more random thoughts. . . .

Hold onto that thought, Lea...

there is buzz that since the size of the island is unknown, it may be much larger than most people are imagining it to be.

Whatever the size, we must remember that she grew up there, she had 16 years of exploring, and whatever else she did as an other.

Seen the maps. Have noted that it takes less than a day to get from Beach Camp to Medical Station, and from Swan Station to Pearl Station (I think Michael just led them the long way around from Beach Camp to Tube Graveyard--the distance from Pearl to Graveyard couldn't be that far. Most tube tubes only go a few dozen/hundred yards at banks. I think the same holds here. But this is OT. Sorry.). Didn't take Jin & Sun long at all to sail Sayid to the phony village.

I really don't think the Island's that big--but the EMT thingy distorts perspective, and makes it seem the place is bigger, somehow? Just grasping at ideas here. . . .

Anyway, The Others know of Danielle. Alex is an Other. Thus, Alex must at least KNOW of Danielle. Probably has seen her from a distance. Maybe there was a REASON Alex left Claire where she did? Maybe Alex (who doubtless has good night vision!) saw/sensed Danielle nearby, and thus left Claire where Danielle would find her? Just more random thoughts. . . .

Now that is an interesting idea. Maybe not the reason, but the timing sure was good ;) The others seem to know pretty well about anythting that moves into "their jungle". Many theories exist about how exacty they do that, monitoring, all kinds of spying devices... and probably they were guarding their facility pretty well as long as it was their facility. Alex being an other might have had access to any device, system whatever. And if she really knew about Danielle being close by, it is very intriguing that she trusted her far better with the nice pregnant girl she was trying to save (aka Claire) than her own companions.

Maybe there was a REASON Alex left Claire where she did?

That does seem coincidental now that you mention it. Danielle & Alex tag team? I wonder.

Anyway, I think a kid could get away with a lot of secret exploring even as an other, so Alex probably knows things the others don't realize.

I can easily believe she's been monitoring Danielle along with the others, but I doubt she's communicated with her, or knows she's her mother.

The size and shape of the island on Danielle's maps is accurate enough imo. Oahu is about 30x40 miles and this is in the same ballpark.

[quote=Lea_Lost;1137805]Whatever the size, we must remember that she grew up there, she had 16 years of exploring, and whatever else she did as an other.


With regards to the size, or rather the imagined size of the island, I'm just repeating what one of the honcho's said (do I remember which of the terrific trio...no) in a recent article.

So it's not my say so..of course, he could be yanking our chains..but then they could be with everyting they say...so I should quote Gregg..."wait, watch & see"


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This is a theory I thought of when reading about this: Maybe Alex knows Danielle is her mother - hence her being 'good' but she also knows that if she tries to run off and rejoin her mother then she will be found by the others and punished. To quote Fenry: 'Our leader is a great man, but not a forgiving man'

This is a theory I thought of when reading about this: Maybe Alex knows Danielle is her mother - hence her being 'good' but she also knows that if she tries to run off and rejoin her mother then she will be found by the others and punished. To quote Fenry: 'Our leader is a great man, but not a forgiving man'

Yes, but wouldn't she try to at least contact her in some way? I mean, your mother is out there in the jungle half crazy for worry and pain that she lost you, wouldn't you go to her? Children can be reckless in that matter... She is only 16, a rebel age they say...

I like that idea. It does seem unlikely that Alex would throw you an unconcious pregnant girl into the jungle and leave her there, if no-one would come for her.

I like that idea. It does seem unlikely that Alex would throw you an unconcious pregnant girl into the jungle and leave her there, if no-one would come for her.

She really had no choice, she was eager to get her out of there. But wouldn't it be neat to find out that she trust Danielle in some way :rolleyes:

Since the writers have introduced these 2 characters, a mother, a daughter, there is the hope that they would eventually meet. However, in the show we see all kinds of connections between characters who continue to live without any clue that someone they know is just over that hill or just died or that there's a connection from their past they won't learn about but the audience is privvy to.

But both Danielle and Alex are compelling because of their connection and so I do hope they get to meet.

I do wish we would get more story about these two characters. Even if it is the stories leading up to them meeting later down the road. I want Danielle and Alex to become regular characters and NOT guests!

I would love for them to be cast regulars, the reunion has to happen this season.

I totally love the theory of Alex knowing about the women in the jungle, it makes perfect sense. It amazing how, if you look closley at a scene from Lost you realise just how clever the writers are. If you blink you might miss something, god i love this show!

I really think Kate will be the key for the reunion, i have no idea why, i just have a feeling she will cause the reunion. Dont know whether thats wishful thinking or not. I just think the Losties will cause a spanner in the works.

I would really love it since the 'others' seem to be able to get all the information of a particular person, if they had a complete profile on Danielle, and Alex knew all about her mother or thats how she'd find out who her mother is. Maybe she already has discovered it and thats why she appears to be a bit of a rebel. That would be a cool storyline.

I love the rousseau's and wish they were both regulars!

Yorkshire-Gal I'm also from Yorkshire! Just a much different part.;)

LOL!

Nice to speak to someone nearby :grin:

She is such a rebel isnt she! I think every scene we have seen her in, she is in some way not complying to the others wishes, or having to be forced into doing something she doesnt feel completley comfortable with. Thats good to see, because that could mean that when given the opportunity to leave she will probabley take it up.

I really do hope that Alex and Danielle are reunited very soon. They deserve to be together - they have so much to catch up on. Bless.