.He should. Desmond is sooo the new Jack :biggrin:

Go ahead, list your reasons =)

Here are some arguments in your favour:

He was there for three years, so even if didn't "get out much", knows much more about the island than the losties.

He was a military, knows many usuful things about battle (very likely there will be one with the others); about discipline, surviving.

He was "almost a doctor once", he must have some medical knowledge as we saw in the stadium scene. Though I would be reluctant to call him the "new Jack", please, let him be Desmond from now on too, ok? :biggrin:

He is a caring person, always preoccupied with other people's wellfare.

He is a man of action, always trying to do the right thing (like saving the world...)

But. even with all this, I'm not sure he is willing to be the leader. And not sure he is the leading type... He is the one following orders, not giving them. It's just a personal opinion.

true, but then again, he doesn't seem to be a person who'd go out exloring for more hatches, going out hunting others, ect., ect...he seems like he likes staying where he is. I do agree with you that he's more of a guy to listen to orders rather then give them.

And I think that some of this will find when the Pen storyline becomes more active.

Folks, not that this thread isn't a good idea, but it really should be titled, "Why Desmond should run for Parliament."

Desmond is SCOTTISH. Ergo, he is not eligible to run for the U.S. Presidency--or any other American elective office!

I know, I know, nitpicky. Feel free to ignore me. Just had to get this on the record.

Oh, and I care too much about Desmond to have him enter the evil, corrupt world of politics, thank you very much! ;)

true, but then again, he doesn't seem to be a person who'd go out exloring for more hatches, going out hunting others, ect., ect...he seems like he likes staying where he is. I do agree with you that he's more of a guy to listen to orders rather then give them.

And I think that some of this will find when the Pen storyline becomes more active.

Well, IMO, we really don't know what he'll be driven to do now that he's out of the hatch..I personally don't agree that he likes staying where he is, if it's the hatch you're referring to...he beat feet as soon as he could. And also remember that when Jack questioned him about the button pushing being a test and did he (desmond) think about that...Desmond's response was.."every single day"

If he were just a follower, he wouldn't have deserted the army, or gone on the race, or been so destraught when he couldn't get away on the boat...Desmond has a lot of passion and I think he is capable of doing just about anything he has to if pushed hard enough.

Not sure that he would want to be a leader ...but if lives depended on it, I believe that he would rise to the occasion and do what had to be done.

And as far as being the new Jack..I'd just as soon not compare him to Jack...Jack dosen't have stirling leadership qualities as far as I can see...the other Losties have given him that power, because he is a doctor...which doesn't automatically make him a leader....it does give him certain qualities, but the other Losties have "bestowed" the leadership on him, IMO because #1. they don't want to do it themselves...and#2. it's always easier to blame someone else when things go wrong.

It's always a little scary when people think someone is just a little better and everything that someone does or says is extraordinary and they fawn all over them.

Desmond is as capable as anyone of taking care of business and I have a feeling he will be proving it in S3.

Not sure that he would want to be a leader ...but if lives depended on it, I believe that he would rise to the occasion and do what had to be done.
Actually, flowers, that description fits Jack as well as Desmond. I think it's all part of the "kindred spirit" feeling I sense when the two of them are together. Of course, Desmond has a FAR more positive attitude than Jack! More a Pooh or Piglet to Jack's Eeyore, IMHO. :wink1:

Oh sure I understand that particular line fits Jack..I was addressing the commment that Desmond was happy to stay where he was and seemily does not have the capablility to be a leader...which I believe is very untrue.

Lea has outlined his capabilities very accurately, IMO, but I am taking exception with her 2nd to last statement.

Plus, lets not forget that he was a Lance Corporal in the Army which if I'm not mistaken is a leadership position.

I think Desmond's best attribute for the "presidency" is his ability to inspire others. His words of encouragement like, "Lift it up", can help "rally the troops". I have a feeling if a conflict arises between the Losties and the Other's, Desmond's charismatic nature and his ability to get the others (not THE others) to believe in his leadership and to rally behind him..will make a difference if they are to be successful in both conflict resolution and general survival.

I think Desmond's best attribute for the "presidency" is his ability to inspire others. His words of encouragement like, "Lift it up", can help "rally the troops". I have a feeling if a conflict arises between the Losties and the Other's, Desmond's charismatic nature and his ability to get the others (not THE others) to believe in his leadership and to rally behind him..will make a difference if they are to be successful in both conflict resolution and general survival.


Whoa, Palomino (hey I made a pun..lol) I think we should throw your hat in the ring...very diplomatically said... and so true. That aspect of his personality is a very important leadership trait and it's all him...he didn't learn how to be that way...don't think you could effectively learn something like that although I'm sure people think they can.

Well said!

Folks, not that this thread isn't a good idea, but it really should be titled, "Why Desmond should run for Parliament."

Desmond is SCOTTISH. Ergo, he is not eligible to run for the U.S. Presidency--or any other American elective office!

I know, I know, nitpicky. Feel free to ignore me. Just had to get this on the record.

Oh, and I care too much about Desmond to have him enter the evil, corrupt world of politics, thank you very much! ;)

surely it should just be for Island Leader... Des is hardly in a position to run any country while stranded on an island.

considering Jack is kidnapped and Locke's actions are highly negligable (well so were Jacks really), Desmond seems the perfect choice. then when Jack returns they can fight it out in a pit of mud/oil:redface:

Plain and simple. I think Desmond would be a much better leader for our Losties simply because the word "ego" isn't in his vocabulary. For Jack ... he can't see past his.

Plain and simple. I think Desmond would be a much better leader for our Losties simply because the word "ego" isn't in his vocabulary. For Jack ... he can't see past his.

very true. although whos to say what would happen to Des' ego if he became leader. anyone can power trip...although Jack's ego was well defined even before the crash.

very true. although whos to say what would happen to Des' ego if he became leader. anyone can power trip...although Jack's ego was well defined even before the crash.

While I don't think Des will be seduced by the "dark" side, your point is well taken, mygoodeye...it is a possibility..for anyone.

Oh sure I understand that particular line fits Jack..I was addressing the commment that Desmond was happy to stay where he was and seemily does not have the capablility to be a leader...which I believe is very untrue.

Lea has outlined his capabilities very accurately, IMO, but I am taking exception with her 2nd to last statement.

Plus, lets not forget that he was a Lance Corporal in the Army which if I'm not mistaken is a leadership position.

Gosh, I never wanted to imply that he doesn't have the qualities necessary for leadership. I only meant he probably doesn't have the willingness! Also, we saw him in a subordinate position in the Hatch with Kelvin, and that suited him somehow. Even if probably he hated it.

I think Desmond's best attribute for the "presidency" is his ability to inspire others. His words of encouragement like, "Lift it up", can help "rally the troops". I have a feeling if a conflict arises between the Losties and the Other's, Desmond's charismatic nature and his ability to get the others (not THE others) to believe in his leadership and to rally behind him..will make a difference if they are to be successful in both conflict resolution and general survival.

That is such an excellent way of putting it! If he becomes a leader, that will be the reason, and the way of doing it.

considering Jack is kidnapped and Locke's actions are highly negligable (well so were Jacks really), Desmond seems the perfect choice. then when Jack returns they can fight it out in a pit of mud/oil:redface:

Funny you'd say that. I'd never say that Locke's actions are highly negligable. Now that his doubts were solved, if the old sage of S1 would be back, now that would be a great help for a leading Desmond. As far as I can remember, Locke was the one encouraging Jack to accept the role of the leader in White Rabbit. That kind of attitude maybe irritated the Doc, but the more faith-centric Desmond probably would work very well together with a faith-centric John Locke.

Plain and simple. I think Desmond would be a much better leader for our Losties simply because the word "ego" isn't in his vocabulary. For Jack ... he can't see past his.

That is true, and also adds a point in favour of the Desmond-Locke leading party idea.

very true. although whos to say what would happen to Des' ego if he became leader. anyone can power trip...although Jack's ego was well defined even before the crash.There is a tad bit of ego in Desmond ... I did forget about his pride in winning the race. That's ego-based but I can't see anything like that situation happening on the island since Penny's not there and that, in his mind and heart, was the basis for his quest to beat Widmore on, in a sense, his own playing field.

I do agree with the post about Desmond's inspiring others with this words of inspiration. He is self-sacrificing (the failsafe key is proof of that if nothing more ... and I feel strongly that we'll see more self-sacrificing Desmond when we learn just what put him in prison). But he doesn't wear his ego on his sleeve like Jack does. And that, i think, is a good thing in that it doesn't tick people off as much as those that flaunt their egos.

I can even see Desmond meeting peacefully with Henry and making a truce.

Now, when is the election? I have to make up campagin buttons, flyers and posters! ;)

Gosh, I never wanted to imply that he doesn't have the qualities necessary for leadership. I only meant he probably doesn't have the willingness! Also, we saw him in a subordinate position in the Hatch with Kelvin, and that suited him somehow. Even if probably he hated it.



That is such an excellent way of putting it! If he becomes a leader, that will be the reason, and the way of doing it.



Funny you'd say that. I'd never say that Locke's actions are highly negligable. Now that his doubts were solved, if the old sage of S1 would be back, now that would be a great help for a leading Desmond. As far as I can remember, Locke was the one encouraging Jack to accept the role of the leader in White Rabbit. That kind of attitude maybe irritated the Doc, but the more faith-centric Desmond probably would work very well together with a faith-centric John Locke.


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im think of the finale, locking himself and Desmond in and see what would happen if the button wasnt pushed. you have to admit he isnt the most rational on the island. well, not anymore.

i dont think Desmond would have peace with Henry for a while. if Henry = DHARMA then hes partially responsible for keeping him in the hatch for 3 years

im think of the finale, locking himself and Desmond in and see what would happen if the button wasnt pushed. you have to admit he isnt the most rational on the island. well, not anymore.

i dont think Desmond would have peace with Henry for a while. if Henry = DHARMA then hes partially responsible for keeping him in the hatch for 3 years

I know you were thinking about that. If I was to judge him by those actions, I'd say he was a raving lunatic... We withnessed his good days and his bad days and when I look back at the Locke we met in S1, I want to think there is still hope :) He is a smart guy with some issues to figure out. And still think he'd be a help to Des.

As for peace with Henry?! That would be a "good idea" :eek2: Like you can trust a word what he's saying...

weoll of course there's always hope for Locke. with Jack and the hatch gone he might return to his old ways, they were the two destructive influences on his character

Who says the hatch is gone?

weoll of course there's always hope for Locke. with Jack and the hatch gone he might return to his old ways, they were the two destructive influences on his characterI hold out hope for Locke (my love until Des came along). I know that with Desmond, Locke will get back on track. Desmond is a fine man to have in your corner and he clearly is in John's.

Who says the hatch is gone?TPTB

Gosh, I never wanted to imply that he doesn't have the qualities necessary for leadership. I only meant he probably doesn't have the willingness! Also, we saw him in a subordinate position in the Hatch with Kelvin, and that suited him somehow. Even if probably he hated it.

I thought you probably meant that...just had to put in my 2 cents.

When I think about Desmonds time in the hatch w/Kelvin, I can see where he was coming from as far as "following" Kelvin. Des had no idea if K was being honest, but because Des has such a trusting nature (not naive, just trusting)I think he took him at his word and by doing that, it put K in the authority position..he was really at K's mercy as he had no idea what he landed in. We heard Des question him, seemily repeatedly regarding the whereabouts of Radizinski..etc...believe Des questioned K in his mind and when he had enough (and saw the slit in his suit) he knew it was time to act on his instincts.


Now, when is the election? I have to make up campagin buttons, flyers and posters! ;)

Sounds unanimous to me, yea? Crank up the copy machine!



im think of the finale, locking himself and Desmond in and see what would happen if the button wasnt pushed. you have to admit he isnt the most rational on the island. well, not anymore.

i dont think Desmond would have peace with Henry for a while. if Henry = DHARMA then hes partially responsible for keeping him in the hatch for 3 years

I think Locke will be back on track as well. Stronger than ever (hoping so) and hope that he and Des will get together and rally the rest of the Losties.

Agree that Des would be wary of fHenry but think if anyone can come to terms with him it would be Desmond.

I thought you probably meant that...just had to put in my 2 cents.

When I think about Desmonds time in the hatch w/Kelvin, I can see where he was coming from as far as "following" Kelvin. Des had no idea if K was being honest, but because Des has such a trusting nature (not naive, just trusting)I think he took him at his word and by doing that, it put K in the authority position..he was really at K's mercy as he had no idea what he landed in. We heard Des question him, seemily repeatedly regarding the whereabouts of Radizinski..etc...believe Des questioned K in his mind and when he had enough (and saw the slit in his suit) he knew it was time to act on his instincts.

Sounds unanimous to me, yea? Crank up the copy machine!


I think Locke will be back on track as well. Stronger than ever (hoping so) and hope that he and Des will get together and rally the rest of the Losties.

Agree that Des would be wary of fHenry but think if anyone can come to terms with him it would be Desmond.
Sounds like a plan!

How's this for our slogan ... simple and to the point: Des for Prez! :biggrin:

Who says the hatch is gone?
To expound upon Jane's reply to that:
Damon and Cuse flat out said "no more hatch." Those two can be coy, misinforming, even outright lying much of the time. But when they get THAT blunt about something, I'm inclined to believe them. They also said that new sets had been built where the hatch sets had been. That would APPEAR to be that for the hatch!
Personally, I think that after being behind military prison bars for four years and stuck in the hatch for three years, Desmond would welcome a job where he'd have a whole Island (and the sea immediately surrounding it) as his "home office." The "snowglobe" is, after all, a MUCH bigger cell--and you can get some fresh air, to boot! :laughing:

Sounds like a plan!

How's this for our slogan ... simple and to the point: Des for Prez! :biggrin:


Sounds good to me!! I'll break out my HB's and get to work on a pic...now where did put that drawing board...

To expound upon Jane's reply to that:
Damon and Cuse flat out said "no more hatch." Those two can be coy, misinforming, even outright lying much of the time. But when they get THAT blunt about something, I'm inclined to believe them. They also said that new sets had been built where the hatch sets had been. That would APPEAR to be that for the hatch!

aye, i believe them on that one too. makes sense to move on.

Personally, I think that after being behind military prison bars for four years and stuck in the hatch for three years, Desmond would welcome a job where he'd have a whole Island (and the sea immediately surrounding it) as his "home office." The "snowglobe" is, after all, a MUCH bigger cell--and you can get some fresh air, to boot! :laughing:

i didnt even think about his time in prison mirroring his time in the hatch. how long was he in prison for anyway?

he'd have to give up the booze if he took on presidency...:rolleyes:

i didnt even think about his time in prison mirroring his time in the hatch. how long was he in prison for anyway?

he'd have to give up the booze if he took on presidency...:rolleyes:

We haven't been told the exact length of time he was in prison. Maybe we'll find that out in the Desmond-centric eppy.

Well, he can have a glass of champaign for the inauguration. ;)

We haven't been told the exact length of time he was in prison. Maybe we'll find that out in the Desmond-centric eppy.

Well, he can have a glass of champaign for the inauguration. ;)


i didnt think so. maybe it'll turn out to be three years *spooky music*

Hi guys, this is Ceci from Buenos Aires, Argentina...

Did you know that HIC was born in Peru, South America, since he is the son of a Scotsman and a Peruvian lady???

So, he could go in for the Presidency of Peru, maybe, and so visit every now and again my beautiful country...

Btw, does anybody of you know if HIC and Billy Boyd (Dom´s best friend, who is also a Scottish actor) are friends in real life?

Love to you all

Love to you all, Ceci

weoll of course there's always hope for Locke. with Jack and the hatch gone he might return to his old ways, they were the two destructive influences on his character

You know, IMO the worst influence on his character was FHenry with his manipulations! He played him like a violin and did more wrong in a few days than Jack, and the Hatch put together. So, I wouldn't say just now that all the bad influence is gone :biggrin:

Sounds like a plan!

How's this for our slogan ... simple and to the point: Des for Prez! :biggrin:

I always had to smile even when I met this in Hollister's siggy. I never heard of a greater slogan! Count me in for campaigning, as long as it is for Craphole Island's presindency. One of the best things about this show was that politics didn't have a role in it (as yet?:eek2: )

One problem though: I don't find the island to be a democratic place, as far as I can see, it looks more like anarchy *gulp*


Little does Penny know that when she arrives, she might be the first lady ;)


Hi guys, this is Ceci from Buenos Aires, Argentina...

Did you know that HIC was born in Peru, South America, since he is the son of a Scotsman and a Peruvian lady???

So, he could go in for the Presidency of Peru, maybe, and so visit every now and again my beautiful country...

Btw, does anybody of you know if HIC and Billy Boyd (Dom´s best friend, who is also a Scottish actor) are friends in real life?

Love to you all

Love to you all, Ceci

Welcome, Ceci to the Lage! Are you a Desmond/HIC fan? Because if you are, you came to the right place! :biggrin:

If you have questions, you might want to address them directly to the Man, at the "Questions for the VIP's" section! Have a nice time around!

Hi guys, this is Ceci from Buenos Aires, Argentina...

Did you know that HIC was born in Peru, South America, since he is the son of a Scotsman and a Peruvian lady???

So, he could go in for the Presidency of Peru, maybe, and so visit every now and again my beautiful country...

Btw, does anybody of you know if HIC and Billy Boyd (Dom´s best friend, who is also a Scottish actor) are friends in real life?

Love to you all

Love to you all, Ceci

Hey, Ceci!! Welcome to the group!!

If you want to send HIC a fan letter, you can send it directly to him at this email:

YoSoyDesmond@miwire.com

He is rather good at answering email in a timely manner. You might get a delay, since he is filming in these weeks. Good luck.

MerryMac

The only thing that scares me about Des running for Island Prez would be. . .his opponent would be HIM! :eek:

Somehow, I don't see HIM allowing Desmond's landslide victory to stand. :eek1:

The only thing that scares me about Des running for Island Prez would be. . .his opponent would be HIM! :eek:

Somehow, I don't see HIM allowing Desmond's landslide victory to stand. :eek1:

Oh, Des won't run for Island President ... Just Lostie President. :biggrin:

I'm working on a poster and button. Should be done tomorrow and I'll post the link.

Kewl!

DES FOR PREZ!!

You know, IMO the worst influence on his character was FHenry with his manipulations! He played him like a violin and did more wrong in a few days than Jack, and the Hatch put together. So, I wouldn't say just now that all the bad influence is gone :biggrin:



true, but Henry's with Jack now so theyre both out of his, um, hair. or lack of.

How about http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desforprezkq8.png for a campaign button, folks? :biggrin:

How about http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desforprezkq8.png for a campaign button, folks? :biggrin:


That's kewl, STH!! I did not know you were such an artist!!:artist:

I'm just starting to learn Paint functions, MerryMac. That button was kind of easy. I don't think I'm up to fancier stuff! :no2:

I'm just starting to learn Paint functions, MerryMac. That button was kind of easy. I don't think I'm up to fancier stuff! :no2:

Aw, come on, STH. Don't limit yourself. You've got to expand your horizons:msn-wink: .

How about http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desforprezkq8.png for a campaign button, folks? :biggrin:


Ahh, purty blue, STH..good for you.

I used Paint on both my avies for the writing part. The bad thing about Paint is, that, once you click outside the box you created for the writing area, you cannot go back an erase it. When you are working on a project, you need to make additional copies of your "base," otherwise, you are totally out of luck if you need to start over. More maddening is, when you are nearly finished with your creation, and you happen to make a mistake, you have to almost literally start from scratch, again.:wallbash: :hissy:

true, but Henry's with Jack now so theyre both out of his, um, hair. or lack of.

For now he is. But That is not a permanent situation :eek2:

I used Paint on both my avies for the writing part. The bad thing about Paint is, that, once you click outside the box you created for the writing area, you cannot go back an erase it. When you are working on a project, you need to make additional copies of your "base," otherwise, you are totally out of luck if you need to start over. More maddening is, when you are nearly finished with your creation, and you happen to make a mistake, you have to almost literally start from scratch, again.:wallbash: :hissy:

Totally agree, MerryMac! I also a beginner at this, like STH, and stumbled across the very same problem! Gosh, I made so many saves with the different steps that I cannot find anything when I want lol

So, no Island Prez, just Lostie Prez. That is waaaay better! People will listen to him as well as like him for a change!

I used Paint on both my avies for the writing part. The bad thing about Paint is, that, once you click outside the box you created for the writing area, you cannot go back an erase it. When you are working on a project, you need to make additional copies of your "base," otherwise, you are totally out of luck if you need to start over. More maddening is, when you are nearly finished with your creation, and you happen to make a mistake, you have to almost literally start from scratch, again.:wallbash: :hissy:You should try that free program I told STH about. It has layers and you 'll LOVE it!

Ok, the campaign poster is done!

Here it is: Des For Pres Poster (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desforprezposteryt7.jpg)

I'm working on a button, too.

You should try that free program I told STH about. It has layers and you 'll LOVE it!

Ok, the campaign poster is done!

Here it is: Des For Pres Poster (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desforprezposteryt7.jpg)

I'm working on a button, too.

Jane, that is one awesome poster!! Ian as Uncle Sam, with the Dharma logo. How about designing a flag to go with the campaign. Any bidders?

Jane, that is one awesome poster!! Ian as Uncle Sam, with the Dharma logo. How about designing a flag to go with the campaign. Any bidders?Thanks, MM! It was fun. I can try a flag ... I'll do that after I finish the button.

ETA: Here's the button: Des for Prez button (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desforprezbuttonww9.jpg)

ETA02: Still working on the flag but came across this ... Just wanted to share (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surplu36sj7.jpg).
(http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desforprezbuttonww9.jpg)

Des for President? Boy, did I miss a lot on my road trip............He has my vote where do we sign up at??? I love the button Jane! "Just wanted to share" could be really fine ya know!!!! :bonk:

Des for President? Boy, did I miss a lot on my road trip............He has my vote where do we sign up at??? I love the button Jane! "Just wanted to share" could be really fine ya know!!!! :bonk:Thanks, Desmondslass! Did you see the poster a few posts before the button? Yea, that wee Scott in that luvleh kilt is a real :bonk: isn't he? ;)

Of course Jane, I love the poster too... can't get enough of Des for President.....are you working on the" just sharing"? :biglaugh:

Ok, the campaign poster is done!
Here it is: Des For Pres Poster (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desforprezposteryt7.jpg)

Is that 'Hail To the Chief' I hear? Cool poster!



Thanks, MM! It was fun. I can try a flag ... I'll do that after I finish the button.

ETA: Here's the button: Des for Prez button (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desforprezbuttonww9.jpg)

Woohoo...and button too..great!


ETA02: Still working on the flag but came across this ... Just wanted to share (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surplu36sj7.jpg)

Whoa Baby!!! Hello soccer boy!:biggrin:

Of course Jane, I love the poster too... can't get enough of Des for President.....are you working on the" just sharing"? :biglaugh:
Here is the Des Flag.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7691/dezforprezflagfo5.gif

Now which of us would not want to have this waving in our view? ;)

Here is the Des Flag.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7691/dezforprezflagfo5.gif

Now which of us would not want to have this waving in our view? ;)

I can see the flag in front of my house now............with a lighted sign below it saying "Long live Desmond our Prez" Great job Jane....I knew tonight would be special thanks..... :thumbup1:

I love that flag Jane. Wish i had one for my house!!!!

:heart: the flag, Jane!! :biggrin:

Good work on the poster and button--but I'm not sure that Desmond (or the lostaways!) would wanna be associated with Dharma! :wink1:

Um--when is the election, again?

I can see the flag in front of my house now............with a lighted sign below it saying "Long live Desmond our Prez" Great job Jane....I knew tonight would be special thanks..... :thumbup1:Thanks! :biggrin:

I love that flag Jane. Wish i had one for my house!!!!Me, too!! ;)

:heart: the flag, Jane!! :biggrin:

Good work on the poster and button--but I'm not sure that Desmond (or the lostaways!) would wanna be associated with Dharma! :wink1:

Um--when is the election, again?Yea, I thought of that but who, really, is the best (that we know of) representative for DHARMA? And I'll bet that if anyone can turn it into a good thing, it'll be our Desmond!! :biggrin:

Dharma's too far gone. And why would Desmond wanna represent the people who kept him in a hatch for three long years?

Anyway, your artwork is clever! Send a flag to me, yeah? :biggrin:

Dharma's too far gone. And why would Desmond wanna represent the people who kept him in a hatch for three long years?

Anyway, your artwork is clever! Send a flag to me, yeah? :biggrin:

To be fair, Desmond kept himself in that station for 3 years. No one held him at gunpoint. He chose to stay, chose to listen to Kelvin and chose to stay even after Kelvin died. I can't blame DHARMA for keeping him there. And I doubt he blames them. ;)

I think I will have a tee shirt made with Dez for President. Any ideas on some art work for it?

To be fair, Desmond kept himself in that station for 3 years. No one held him at gunpoint. He chose to stay, chose to listen to Kelvin and chose to stay even after Kelvin died. I can't blame DHARMA for keeping him there. And I doubt he blames them. ;)

To be honest, Desmond was stranded there. He thought his boat was gone, and the light in his head did not go on until he saw Kelvin with the torn jumpsuit. At least he had the sense to follow Kelvin out of the hatch, and catch him in the lie (and kicked Kelvin's sorry butt in the process).:irked: :42fight:

:hug:, MerryMac!!

And I blame Dharma/Hanso/Widmore, Jane, cuz they're the ones who arranged for Desmond to crash on the Island in the first place! So there! :10:

Desmondslass, I'd keep it simple:

DES
FOR
PREZ

Says it all, yeah? :thumbsup:

Let us know how many sheeple out there actually ask who Des is and if he's running against Bush, OK? OK! :71:

I will keep you posted STH on how many ask who is Dez. What do you think about.......I am Lost.......... Dez for Prez?

Des, Desmondslass!

No LOST puns--just Des For Prez! It'll be a great conversation starter!

Des, Desmondslass!

No LOST puns--just Des For Prez! It'll be a great conversation starter!


You are so right.........and as soon as people find out who Dez is, they'll be hooked too!!!! there's always room for more fangirls!!!!!!!!!!

he is a born leader, dedicated and gorgeous.....what else could you want?

Boilerkappa we always can use some more fangirls/guys desmondites.........spread the word Des for Prez!!! :crush::crush:

To be honest, Desmond was stranded there. He thought his boat was gone, and the light in his head did not go on until he saw Kelvin with the torn jumpsuit. At least he had the sense to follow Kelvin out of the hatch, and catch him in the lie (and kicked Kelvin's sorry butt in the process).:irked: :42fight:But he still didn't have to stay. He chose to stay. The Losties have proven that one can survive on the island by its own resources. Desmond never even tried. I'm not slighting him ... heck, I may have stayed, too. But still ... no one made him stay. He chose to.

:hug:, MerryMac!!

And I blame Dharma/Hanso/Widmore, Jane, cuz they're the ones who arranged for Desmond to crash on the Island in the first place! So there! :10:

Desmondslass, I'd keep it simple:

DES
FOR
PREZ

Says it all, yeah? :thumbsup:

Let us know how many sheeple out there actually ask who Des is and if he's running against Bush, OK? OK! :71:Ah, but that is still speculation, STH. It might turn out to be true, but so far we have no proof of that. ;)

ETA: Ooooh, I may have to stand corrected ... http://www.widmorerace.com/. Check out the sponsors list! :eek:

But he still didn't have to stay. He chose to stay. The Losties have proven that one can survive on the island by its own resources. Desmond never even tried. I'm not slighting him ... heck, I may have stayed, too. But still ... no one made him stay. He chose to.

Ah, but that is still speculation, STH. It might turn out to be true, but so far we have no proof of that. ;)

ETA: Ooooh, I may have to stand corrected ... http://www.widmorerace.com/. Check out the sponsors list! :eek:

I was out for a day, and missed so much! You girls are just awesome!:kiss:

Jane, the poster is wonderful, so is the button, but I WANT A FLAG, a really big one!!! :biggrin:

That site is too funny, one must love it.;) People are having too much free time, I find....

As for the argument. They (Kelvin) lied to him, stole, hide his boat, frightened him with desease, hostiles, and with his own guilt about "not following orders" in the past. Also, he could never abandon Kelvin alone in the hatch, he was not that kind of a guy. So Dharma (through Kelvin) restrained him down there.
But. He still could have sent Kelvin, Dhrama and the doomsday-button to heck and fly. Still, he stayed, in his own accord in a way, he chose to be in a subordinate position to K. That was my argument against him being the leader.:rolleyes: You always have a choice they say. Even if the other is death.

I was out for a day, and missed so much! You girls are just awesome!:kiss:

Jane, the poster is wonderful, so is the button, but I WANT A FLAG, a really big one!!! :biggrin:

That site is too funny, one must love it.;) People are having too much free time, I find....

As for the argument. They (Kelvin) lied to him, stole, hide his boat, frightened him with desease, hostiles, and with his own guilt about "not following orders" in the past. Also, he could never abandon Kelvin alone in the hatch, he was not that kind of a guy. So Dharma (through Kelvin) restrained him down there.
But. He still could have sent Kelvin, Dhrama and the doomsday-button to heck and fly. Still, he stayed, in his own accord in a way, he chose to be in a subordinate position to K. That was my argument against him being the leader.:rolleyes: You always have a choice they say. Even if the other is death.Yea, I've since discovered that it's only a fan site so ... still no proof that Widmore helped to get Desmond to the island. Though I still think it is more than possible, just saying no proof as of yet.

That's what I meant when I said he chose to stay. He was so bent on striking out on his own, following his own drum, etc. But he chose to stay. Of course the longer he stayed the harder it was for him to go (he was, in affect, in an abusive situation with being knocked down daily) he could have ventured out early on when he still had his own witts about him. Again, I'm not slighting him for his choice. He did what he felt was right in his heart (I hope) but it was still his choice. We saw clearly that when he had the incentive he was more than able to fight back against Kelvin. He had it in him all along. Guess he just didn't know it or the incentive hadn't been stong enough before.

But I'd like to think that he learned a valuable lesson from those years down there and then what he found when he got free. I think that what he learned would work to his favor if he were elected Lostie President. :biggrin:

He'd be a good prez because
1) it rhymes with Dez
2) he's extremely well read
3) if she ever makes it to the island, Penny would make a much better 1st lady than Kate/Danny/Claire/etc...

He'd be a good prez because
1) it rhymes with Dez
2) he's extremely well read
3) if she ever makes it to the island, Penny would make a much better 1st lady than Kate/Danny/Claire/etc...Those are great points and the last one I agree with 110%!!

FYI: I sent the images to Ian and his response was: "lol" :biglaugh: